I simply can't understand this. How can we go from one generation of romario, ronaldinho, ronaldo, kaká, Adriano, r. carlos, bebeto, cafu, rivaldo... to
guys like G. Jesus and Paulinho?
What the fuck happened? We always had world class players and out of nowhere we have these literal shit players. Did we copy Europeans too much?
>Fatriano
No faggot European teams just got better. Grow up fake boomer.
>hurr durr hurr durr
I'm talking about individual quality, you retard angloid. You can't tell these guys are nowhere fucking close to the guys I mentioned?
EUROPEAN TEAMS GOT BETTER. This something tou monkeys will never learn. You always look at yourself and always think you're the best in the world and don't pay attention around you. That's arrogance. I agree that those players you mentioned were better but right now brazil isn't just as strong as it was.
look at the birth rate of Brazil when those great players were born, and look at its birth rate now.
Back then women had more children, and children had less distractions, so exclusively played football.
Now less kids are born
They all keep going to China at 23 instead of actually trying
cuz european teams have invested heavily in football, they are no longer impressed by our football
>Obesity in Brazil is a growing health concern. 52.6 percent of men and 44.7 percent of women in Brazil are overweight. 35% of Brazilians are obese in 2018.
>brasilialards
>EUROPEAN TEAMS GOT BETTER
Fucking irrelevant. Their quality is independent of European teams. If you can't tell that those guys are way way waaaaay inferior to the first guys I mentioned and that Europe's quality is irrelevant to what I'm saying then you don't know shit.
You could notice this by watching them them playing against Indonesia.
because brazilians aren't humans and don't have the intelligence to keep up with humans
>used to have player like Bergkamp, van Nistelrooji, Robben, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Van Basten, Cruijff, Gullit, etc.
>Now have to watch the likes of Promes, Depay, Babel, Blind, Vilhena, de Roon, Strootman, Kluivert
I want to go back, lads, I want to actually enjoy seeing my national team play.
and the kids who are born, may choose to be obsessed with videogames or youtubers or another sport instead of football.
Europeans have gotten a lot worse.
Italy used to produce a lot of great Italian players, now they don't do it anymore and failed to qualify to the world cup.
France, the last WC winners, also wouldnt have qualified to the World Cup with an ethnic French team.
The UK can't field a full English team with players like Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Beckham etc anymore.
Europe has the same problem Argentina and Brazil have. Less kids than before because of declining birth rate, and kids play less football than before because of the internet, videogames and other new hobbies. But they can compensate with immigrants from Africa and the middle east, and they have money for scouting promising youngster and pay for their career, kind of similar to what former Soviet Block countries did to perform great at the Olympics, but now in capitalism.
Argentina and Brazil can't do that.
Okay so you're telling me that if you had the same squad as 2002 you would win 2014 and 2018 world cup?
This maybe, they get financially independent much easier now and stop trying sooner.
>tf
>tp
>Fucking irrelevant
Yes, Brazil is now.
Still find it strange that Babel is a regular starting winger for the Netherlands when he wasn't even in the squad all that regularly when he was younger
main motivation for players then: to be the best in the world and to win trophies
main motivation for players now: expensive cars, instagram whores, rap albums, clothing lines
>Europeans have gotten a lot worse.
>Italy used to produce a lot of great Italian players, now they don't do it anymore and failed to qualify to the world cup.
>France, the last WC winners, also wouldnt have qualified to the World Cup with an ethnic French team.
>The UK can't field a full English team with players like Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Beckham etc anymore.
Most retarded thing I've seen today.
Should have mentioned Kluivert in both lists 2bh.
Also we are getting back on track again with lots of talent again. Let's see how they develop.
He got better while the NT got worse, not that hard.
He works his ass off playing for >us now.
Yeah it's mind boggling how fucking deep we have fallen
It's a bit like us dragging Ashley Young in to play left-back at the World Cup, sure they probably deserve it on form and ability compared to their rivals for that spot, but it's just strange to see
You along with Portugal are rising in football don't worry
>Fucking irrelevant
>Yes, Brazil is now
>fuck the other teams, we ain't playing against anybody rite?
Only certain ones, most didn't, especially your shithole
Portugal is getting better
>the birth rate faggot is back
Look, m8
in countries where there's a great football infrastructure, it doesn't matter. Brazil wasn't far from winning the world cup and they're still by far the best CONMEBOL national team. If they don't win next year, we might have a different conversation.
Also, 9s are fucked these days. At top tier football, every team knows to choke out strikers. That's why many good teams have loaded midfields now, it doesn't matter who's up front if you don't have good service for them.
Agreed but it's like you say he deserves it most right now, he even went to play for fulham to stay in the picture.
>have best no9 in the world
>play Jesus instead
Brazil 2002 was kino, best national team I've seen
I won't even fall for it because this has to be bait. I refuse to believe you people think that G. Jesus is on the same level as Ronaldo but we aren't seeing it because Europe got better. It has to be bait
2002 Brazil would utterly trash the competition in 2014 and 2018. What the fuck are you on about?
I don't know if they would win but they would have a better chance than this fucking team. Look at this team. There's no way you think this team is comparable to the 2002 one
>How can we go from one generation of romario, ronaldinho, ronaldo, kaká, Adriano, r. carlos, bebeto, cafu, rivaldo... to guys like G. Jesus and Paulinho?
Too much internet, video games and shit nowadays.
Back in the day all of those players you mentioned lived and breathed football.
The quality in football has gone severely down everywhere but Europeans have always been more diligent hence why they still can produce some good talent even in this age of laziness.
South American players(especially Brazilians and Argies) have always been about raw passion...passion that has now been destroyed because Brazilian youth have more options for entertainment now so they can't be that dedicated to football as players generations ago were. Couple that with the fact that Brazilians are not as diligent as Europeans(they love to party and even back then most BR players' career were done by 30) and it's not hard to see why the new generation is so shit.
>Old players
Majority are white
>New players
Majority are nigs
They would definitely win.
Ronaldo and Rivaldo would utterly rape any team in 2014/2018.
says the English whose national team lost on purpose to Belgium just to avoid facing Brazil
>american
>complaning about obesity
hehehehe
Marcelo is a literal god and nerman is nerman but still one of the most special players in it world. Qtinho is in a major funk but when he's good he's amazing too. Douglas Costa and Willian bring flair too. There's still plenty of the Brazil DNA there, I think you just gotta accept that that generation was supremely gifted and we'll never see anything like it again
Based
He's completely right though.
Italy doesn't produce nearly as much good talent as it used to
France was filled with niggers, with only Griezmann, Giroud, the LB and Lloris being white
England was filled with niggers and the only English players I remember were Vardy, Kane, Pickford, Maguire.
>Marcelo is a literal god
He never impresses for Brazil.
Neymar is a meme.
>Douglas Costa
Now there's a player I actually rate.
They should have used him more in last WC.
it's both
they got better and we got worse
>What the fuck happened?
You wasted billions $$$ and billions $$$ on the World Cup and the Olympics.
You could have reinforced your sport programs, built universities, hospitals, schools, libraries, infrastructure, secured a future for your country...but instead you sacrificed your future and your children's future and their children's future for a couple of sports festivals for rich foreigners that were a few weeks long.
Choices have consequences.
>France, the last WC winners, also wouldnt have qualified to the World Cup with an ethnic French team.
How many of the French team were born outside France? Wasn't it...one(1)?
>France, the last WC winners, also wouldnt have qualified to the World Cup with an ethnic French team.
Tbf how many of the 98-2000 team were ethnically French? It probably had the same ratio as the current French team
Those players were born in france you idiot. It's their players just because they're black doesn't change anything. Italy isn't the whole europe is it? And what abour England?
He isn't right at all. Also
Yikes
Why post this cringe shit? The world cup was in 2014. I didn't know that when the we decided to host the world cup, players who were already in their 20s and 30s retroactively got worse. Fucking retard.
>Those players were born in france
That still doesn't make them French.
They're Africans.
We have more billions. Our GDP is higher than Canada's
Just look at the flag and move on.
They were born in france therefore they are french. And you tend to look down on that filthy leaf when you're even worse? Kys
>They were born in france therefore they are french.
No that's not how it works for an normal non-brainwashed person.
The fact of the matter is they're not even European so they cannot be French.
France NT has always had niggers and players with non-European origins but at the very least their teams in the past were dominated by European(if not French i.e Michel Platini) players.
Now France NT is dominated by Africans/Non-Europeans.
We actually got richer since our last world cup win. We should be producing better players
Okay okay if that's your logic hear me out. Brazil never never won those world cups then. More than 90% of Brazil population are descendents from Africa and some mixed with British people who went to America. They are not native Americans. Thereford the world cups they won belong to both africa and England. Glad to know we can agree on that. Brazil actually isn't a WC champion.
Well, tons of Brazilian legends became legends due to need of escaping poverty.
Also, while Brazil got richer don't you guys still have massive corruption going on?
>don't you guys still have massive corruption going on?
yes. the biggest ones
Brazil is not a real nationality. Brazil, Argentina and all of these South American countries are basically fake made-up countries like Switzerland and the USA.
They don't even speak a unique language, they all speak either Portuguese or Spanish in South America. English in the US and the Swiss are basically a mix of French, Italians and Germans.
They're on their own special category.
You can't compare them to ancient countries/ehtnicities like England, France, Italy.
>Brazilian legends
You mean Brittish-Moor-African legends
Brazil is a made-up country so it doesn't matter see
Your shit generation is almost over.
The next golden generation will peak in a couple of years
Arthur, Vinicius, Militao, Paulinho (Leverkusen)
Every country is a made up country. Following your logic.
they're french citizens, national teams are about citizenship
forgot Paqueta too
brazils nt is representative of its actual population
france nt isnt thats it
Why? They are both rulled by outsiders.
you must be the thickest cunt on the british isles, logic doesnt work like that
it isn't for brazil, brazil has a big chunk of "white" people, where are they in the NT? team represent the lower class of countries, if your lowerclass is athletic race then you will see them in your NT
Thanks for telling ne why you disagree retard
2002 Brazil had like 6 geniuses in the team
yeah but its usually not the government who drafts the national teams, its formed from the best players until you start focusing on the minority of pacey blacks to build a team instead of relying on all your native talent. hell even hungary had a brazilian right back in the national team for some fucking reason.
i have a shoe, you have a shoe, since we both have shoes they are both nike right?
Have you been reading the thread? Those black french players were born in France and started playing in France, they are french athletes. How is that hard to understand?
That's a dumb analogy considering this topic. That user said brazil, argentina etc are made up countries. What countries aren't made up then?
BR has 180 languages.
en.wikipedia.org
We don't speak an unique language because we are descendants of Portuguese people and Portuguese people banned the usage of other languages.
This lingua franca based on an indigenous language was spoken until it was banned in 1775
en.wikipedia.org
what shoes arent nike? and you can purposefully select players who are 1 generation into france and all black while you could make a good team who relies on footballing skills not pace from your actual population
what's the whitest region of France?
Thank you for not only not answering my question but also agreeing with me.
>what shoes aren't nike?
They are still shoes right? The same as "made up countries" are countries, they are not the same but they are still countries. Doesn't matter how they came to be.
And what pace? Are you telling me that Dembele, Mbappe etc don't have any skill besides pace? Watch more football, in fact lurk for 2 more years before posting. Like I said they were born in france, therefore they are french players.
>France, the last WC winners, also wouldnt have qualified to the World Cup with an ethnic French team.
Kind of tough to tell since French amateurs are practically forced to go play in neighboring countries if they want an honest shot. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy, much like the American collegiate football system that deliberately and systematically discriminates and excludes White players to swell D1 teams with blacks.
>Those black french players were born in France
A dog born in a stable isn't a horse.
JESUS FUCKIN CHRSIT WAS BORN INTHE STABLE THAT DONT MAKE HIM A HORSE RETARD
I never said black people born in europe are white did I? Fucking idiot
argentina has the same problem too.
SeeLearn how to make analogy you fucking rat
Is a black horse born in a stable with white horses not a horse?
Don't confuse nationality with ethnicity.
saint pierre et miquelon if you want a meme answer. otherwise it's brittany
>this Albanian with serious nostalgia goggles that thinks every footballer who came to promenance after 2005 is utter shit and that all footballers before these ones were gods
cringe
t. tyrell jahvon hepburn-williams
>Dat crime rate
>Increasing access to “middle class” materials like computers and Playstation for all classes
Video Games, TV and Shitposting killed it. In Western Europe and America, even in ghettos it’s relatively safe.
The reason there are so many africans and arabs on NTs in the West is because they were most likely to have conservative parenting that restricted video games for physical activity.
>Don't confuse nationality with ethnicity.
The nation is the race and always has been. That's why your mutt, FAILING international order refers to itself as post-national. Like it matters, since you've FAILED and will be swallowed up by imperial Eurasia.
Interesting. By these guys' logic one of the most famous French writers isn't french
a dog born in a french stable is a french dog
learn to citizenship, burger
>another failed muttnigger running his failing mouth
Underrated. Firminho isn’t the best 9 in the world but holy kek playing Jesus over him in the WC last year was brainlet tier.
It’s like oh look here’s le pacey forward fuck everything else and treat it liek FIFA19
Please stop posting this overrated turbo slut
nobody takes you seriously you're aware of that right?
According to this retard the most important russian writer isn't Russian because he was mixed
>Russian poet, playwright, and novelist of the Romantic era[2] who is considered by many to be the greatest Russian poet[3][4][5][6] and the founder of modern Russian literature.[7][8]
>Pushkin's great-grandfather, was Abram Petrovich Gannibal (1696–1781), an African page kidnapped to Constantinople as a gift to the Ottoman Sultan
Who’s this semen Demon
M I L I T Ã O
>Jesus was born in the Roman Empire. >No caps for the Roman NT
Nobody takes the nigger "West" seriously.
When I was a wee lad they said that Brazil is going to be kangz forever. After that they said the same thing about Spain.
>kind of similar to what former Soviet Block countries did to perform great at the Olympics
Lmao, birth rate in them countries was higher and way more stable. No need for niggers
brainlet, the teams that were good are still good
in reality everybody got worse
No, you got worse. Doesn't the 7-1 remind you that you are no longer a threat?
I like how the Ameribrainlets, Hungbarians and Albanogs have the same retarded conception of nationhood.
that makes no sense at all. dogs and horses are different species
Why do you people talk like squads are static? The squad isn't the same anymore. Even with the 7-1 we still ended in fourth place while England was eliminated in the group stage and that team was fucking garbage.
england had rooney beckham rio scholes and now their stars are fucking kane and rashford
spain had xavi iniesta casillas puyol and now they have degea and diego costa
wont even start with italy
germany had kahn ballack klose lahm now they have muller
only country that managed to keep some stars was france
yeah and that same germany struggled agaisnt mexico and fucking korea, you can go back to /int/ with the stupid country roleplay shit
>stupid country roleplay shit
kek what does that even mean?
I don't even care about england lel.
>Inb4 you say mohammed
I'm portuguese
same with portugal they had deco, eusebio figo and prime ronaldo
now the person who scored the most important goal in portuguese history was fucking eder
everybody got worse its a fact
same happened with the netherlandsargentina too
will soon happen to chile and urugay
They would unironicallt win 1966 WC if they hadn't been robbed.
And whats wrong with being eder scoring the goal? Dude made everyone in Portugal shut up. And I wouldn't say everybody got worse, I would say other teams just got better
that portuguese team was horrible, ronaldo was injured and the to be world cup winners struggled against eder and fucking quaresma
Quaresma is good only brainlets think otherwise. And eder was a sub while most of the french played 100+ minutes
yeah a sub for superstar player nani
portugal didnt get better, everybody just got worse
He subbed renato sanches dumbfuck
And Portugal was the better team in prolongation
that is not what I mean. What I meant is the normal thing used to be kids spontaneously playing football because they enjoy it, and the ones that proved talented may audition themselves for clubs and have careers, while now the recruiting of youngsters has almost become science.
I blame esports
I guess it is too much money on merchandising, sponsorships and what not, that they forget they have to actually play football.
madelyncheriee
i can see her niples
>this meme
The Portuguese team was playing good football early on. Oddly enough, Ronaldo was fucking up the team’s flow. Then there was the Austria game where he missed the penalty kick. After that, what happened was...strange
Santos protected Ronaldo’s ego by playing along with what the media was saying. You know, “Portugal is playing ugly football” - even though they were attacking in the group stage. Had they needed a win over Hungary, the later minutes of that game would have gone very differently. After that, they played more defensively, but you still needed a lot of skill and speed to pull off the counters that Portugal did.
>Unironically comparing the Old World with the New World
(You)
I don't think we're currently that bad, we're just not that great anymore. 2022 will virtually be our best chance to win something anytime soon, our defense is old and it has been ages since I last saw a good young cb hue
>national teams are about citizenship
No they aren't. If they were then why aren't they called Citizen Teams?
>BR has 180 languages.
Which are spoken by like 0.1% of the population.
Majority of Brazil speaks Portuguese.
>brazil has a big chunk of "white" people, where are they in the NT?
They have an even bigger chunk of brown people. And obviously football is more popular among poor brown people hence why probably more of Brazil's football legends tend to be brown/black.
>they are french athletes.
They are not french. They're african, period.
The only thing african about them is their race. They grew up in france, speak french, were educated in france, grew up with french culture around them, watched french tv, ate french food, listened to french music, learned to play football in france, etc..
>They would unironicallt win 1966 WC if they hadn't been robbed.
If England didn't refball the whole tournament Pele would have 4 world cups.
Remember that Portugal were absolute cancer against Brazil and kicked the shit out of Pele so much with the ref turning a blind eye the whole match that Pele wanted to retire from International Football after that match.
Why waste your time engaging in a discussion with a poltard?
Quaresma unironically was the 2nd most important player for Portugal(after Eder).
His meme magic level was off the charts.
>The only thing african about them is their race.
>Genetics don't matter
Do you realize how stupid you sound?
You have one of the quickest, precise, passing geniuses of all time.
Yes, I'm a poltard for posting common sense.
Fact is actual French people do not think of black people as French and they never will.
>genetics
Explain to me this logically then: Why can Normans be french but Africans can't? They were originally vikings that settled in France. You can genetically tell if someone is from scandinavia
>good young CB hue
has there ever been one?
Lucio was good but not much else
>an albanian poltard
cringe
>Fact is
How do you know that? Are you French? Do you live in France? No? then stfu, albanian poltard.
we consider them french citizens if they are french citizens. what you don't understand is that we french people and blacks in france make the distinction between ethnicity and citizenship, they recognize themselves and are recognized as french citizens with a foreign origin. nobody is stupid enough to believe they are gauls.
>They were originally vikings that settled in France.
But that's wrong.
Normans were a mix of Franks, Romans and Vikings.
Also see Even if they were purely vikings(which they weren't) at least they're Europeans while Africans aren't.
>Norman, member of those Vikings, or Norsemen, who settled in northern France (or the Frankish kingdom), together with their descendants.
>The Normans (from Nortmanni: “Northmen”) were originally pagan barbarian pirates from Denmark, Norway, and Iceland who began to make destructive plundering raids on European coastal settlements in the 8th century.
>uring the later 9th century their raids on the northern and western coastlands of France grew in scale and frequency, and the Vikings had secured a permanent foothold on Frankish soil in the valley of the lower Seine River by about 900.
>A Viking named Rollo, who had already won a reputation as a great leader of Viking raiders in Scotland and Ireland, soon emerged as the outstanding personality among the new settlers. In 911 the Frankish king Charles III the Simple made the Treaty of St. Clair-sur-Epte with Rollo, ceding him the land around the mouth of the Seine and what is now the city of Rouen.
Nobody is talking about citizenship.
It's called a National Team not a Citizen Team.
Nationality = citizenship
retard
since the beginning national teams were always about citizenship and never about ethnicity. you absolute tool. consider yourself happy you get to be taught by me.
Except
1) A bunch of them were mixed with the native Franks and Gallo-Romans eventually
2) Where is Denmark, Iceland, Norway located? Oh, that's right...it's Europe.
Thanks for playing.
Not to mention that many countries have sons of immigrants. That’s just a fact. Albanian Milan autist is just sperging out over nothing
This has to be your most retarded post yet. What matters is the rules and they let citizens play. It's not based on ethnicity. That's why you see BRs that were born here playing in other teams like for example
Costa playing for spain
and jorginho playing for italy and many others
>Nationality = citizenship
Nope.
You focused too much on meme players who can do stepovers and tricks which resulted in 7-1, from which Brazil will never mentally recover.
1) so what you're saying is that if blacks mix with then there's no problem?
2) So what if it's located in Europe? They are of a different ethnicity. You said genetics. You can do a genetic test and determine that someone has scandinavia ancestry so there's a difference.
Also they had a different culture, different language and different ethnicity. You can't explain why they can become french without going like "because I like them but I don't like the other ones" kek
I'm not talking about football(where International Football is like Club Football at this point).
I'm talking about real life.
You mentioned Diego Costa. Diego Costa plays for Spain but he will never be considered a Spaniard.
Same with the fullback who plays for Russia.
>stepovers and tricks
Ah yes, Hulk, Fernandinho, Fred those tricksters
Costa wasn't born in Spain and doesn't even speak Spanish natively.
How about this guy Is he french? He was part black
>albania
imagine
1). Blacks don't originate from Europe. How many times do I have to drill this in your head?
Blacks will never be European, they will always be considered outsiders.
2). They're far closer to the French and other West European countries than Africans.
Study some geography.
I already said a bunch of them were mixed with the French. Yes, culture that is actually European and far closer to French culture than any African culture.
By this logic, Normans and even Italians like Michel Platini are a better representation of France than Africans can ever hope to be.
It's not that hard to understand.
>Gullit, Kluivert, Seedorf, Davids, Rijkaard, Van Bronckhorst, Van Hooijdonk, Winter
Just off the top of my head. You're full of shit mate.
in the eyes of most people, and in the context of international football (the only relevant topic ITT), you are flatly incorrect.
The only reason he's considered French is because of his fame. And he was famous even before he gained his own fame since his grandfather was a French nobleman.
Legally he was considered a Mulatto and his mother was always documented as a Pure African.
If he was walking down the streets of Paris today and if he wasn't famous...the thought that he was french would never enter anyone's mind.
Sorry, meant Grandmother.
His grandmother was a Black Slave.
>in the eyes of most people
Even in your country Spics are not considered true Americans so don't give me that bullshit.
International Football these days might as well be Club Football.
thanks for telling me about my own country lol
I wonder if the average frenchman would consider you more french than zidane (berber) or someone like henry
Of those players only Gullit and Rijkaard were black(and Vanenburg) in the 80s team that won the Euro.
Look at 2010 WC Final(pic related)
Only Van Der Wiel, Bronckhorst and De Jong are black.
The rest are all Dutch White.
So please do eat shit for me, britbong.
So eat shit you
Guess Serbs were right all along
>Zidane
>Berber
He's Kabyle and his face looks a bit similar to Italians or Spaniards.
Also Zidane is famous and looks white enough so they let it slide. They know from his face alone that he's not French though, it's very obvious.
If I go to France they'll know I'm European, but they will also know I'm not French since I'm from East Europe(although I do look far more like a West European than a lot of people here but the French would be able to tell the difference for sure).
Cry more.
>The Kabyle people (Kabyle: Iqbayliyen, iqβæjlijən) are a Berber ethnic group indigenous to Kabylia in the north of Algeria
I'm not talking about french as in ethnicity. You keep pretending that people that are born in a certain country won't act like everyone else which is silly. There are descendants of Japanese here and they act just like everyone else in BR. They don't act like Japanese from japan.
2002 brazil barely beat 2002 belgium, and had to cheat (wilmots's goal..)
2018 belgium >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2002 belgium
How did we cheat? are you saying that we bought the refs
He looks like he can't count to ten.
state of this seething
>You keep pretending that people that are born in a certain country won't act like everyone else which is silly.
They often form cliques and they often don't interact with others outside their circles. Blacks and Middle-Easterners in Europe are notorious for this.
You're also ignoring the importance of first glance/impression i.e how a person looks.
No matter how a person acts that won't change what he/she is.
And once again you're falsely comparing Brazil a new world country to France an old world country which have very drastically different standards.
>There are descendants of Japanese here and they act just like everyone else in BR. They don't act like Japanese from japan.
And Japan nips dislike Diaspora nips so much that at times they'll give shit to a compatriots for simply being born outside of Japan. They're that harsh.
Once again, you can't assume that the way it is in Brazil is everywhere else.
>Belgium 2018 is better than the 2002 one because it has more le niggers in it
Sure thing there nig.
>And Japan nips dislike Diaspora nips so much that at times they'll give shit to a compatriots for simply being born outside of Japan.
kek how do you not see that this goes against what you were arguing earlier? You were arguing about genetics and looks make someone that nationality then you go and post something showing you wrong and acting like it proves your point...
It doesn't go at all against my argument.
Japs hate gaijins so much that they're even willing to hate their own if they weren't born inside their country.
This is the country where the minority of full-blooded japs who are born with blonde or red hair are pressured into darkening their hair and are even treated as half-japs or different from other japs. Often they're even threatened with school expulsion.
They're that intolerant. Japan takes it to another level entirely.
This is a completely different planet compared to a new world country like Brazil.
Brazil is going in the same direction as Uruguay. Once the greatest nation in football, with extreme levels of talent but not enough to reach world cup finals anymore because they haven't adapted to the new technical and physical aspects of the game. Football is becoming more and more an intelligent game and the best way to learn that is in 11 a side fields, in structured academies like Barcelona's and not in the streets playing football 12 hours a day with three or four kids, even more so now that I believe this era has ended because any lower middle class kid in Brazil has access to internet and smartphones, so football is not the only distraction and entertainment anymore. Also education is being taken more seriously and kids like Ronaldinho that skipped classes to play football will be less and less frequent from now on, in my time lots and lots of kids did that, now not so much, I can see that watching the kids from nowadays. Brazil won 5 WC until now relying on extreme levels of talent alone in eras that football wasn't so complex and dependent on managers, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. And to the question if the league will ever be watched in Europe in 15 years or so I think it's very hard to happen. Football is extremely dependent on the country's economy, Brazil will always have talent, but the league is not going to be watched in Europe while they don't have money and can't bring and keep talent and create sophisticated structures and academies in local teams to keep the game as a whole in the same level of the big four leagues in the world.
The national team of Brazil, The Seleção, was never coached by a non-Brazilian. However, foreigners have had undeniably important roles in the development of Brazilian football since the beginning, from Hungary to Holland and other American countries, perhaps a coach like Guardiola would bring positivity and fresh ideas for Brazilian football.
>those ears
>haven't adapted to the new technical and physical aspects
You speak as if we don't have players in the top clubs in Europe and as if these same players aren't the ones playing in the NT.
It's nonsense.
All teams had brazilians in the semifinal of the last champions league
Yeah, they just roll the ball out and say go
How did those superior German tactics work out?
In Brazil
>relying on extreme levels of talent alone
>While the initial developments leading to the 4–2–4 were devised by Márton Bukovi, the credit for creating the 4–2–4 lies with two different people: Flávio Costa, the Brazilian national coach in the early 1950s, as well as another Hungarian, Béla Guttman. These tactics seemed to be developed independently, with the Brazilians discussing these ideas while the Hungarians seemed to be putting them into motion.[6][7][8] The fully developed 4–2–4 was only "perfected" in Brazil, however, in the late 1950s.
>4–2–4 was first used with success at club level in Brazil by Palmeiras and Santos, and was used by Brazil in their wins at 1958 World Cup and 1970 World Cup, both featuring Pelé, and Mário Zagallo, the latter of which played in 1958 and coached in 1970. The formation was quickly adopted throughout the world after the Brazilian success.
>The 4–3–3 was a development of the 4–2–4, and was played by the Brazilian national team in the 1962 World Cup
However, foreigners have had undeniably important roles in the development of Brazilian football since the beginning, from Hungary to Holland and other American countries
I was born in China, but I’m white and my parents moved back to Europe when I was 7.
Does that make me Chinese, you retarded faggot?
yeah you are ming ming
you have to go back
Yes you are chinese but not asian. How is that hard to understand retard? Stop mixing race with nationality
Reminder that european players could never do something like this.
>italy isn't the whole of europe
why do people do this, you argue in bad faith and attack a point that was never being made. either you are intentionally missing his point or you have an iq of 85 and never got the point in the first place
>this is your mind on ZOG
while we sit here arguing about how french nkuku and his cousins are china is colonizing africa and japan has completed their economic recovery after 91'
we are so utterly fucked it feels like im taking crazy pills
I'm glad this whole fucking gay world will die in the upcoming collapse.
Now is the era of brazilian defensive players
Silva, sideshow Bob, marquinhos, the two gk
You are the one who doesn't get the point but in the end.
>tf
That was Rui Patricio
Really bad thread
This
dont look at her nippols, fag
jesus is better than half the guys you mentioned tho
jesus is the only cool man besides kurt cobain
we live in a society
ITT: niggas who cant separate race from nationality
Do the Brazilians hate Neymar?
China is a multi-ethnic country
en.wikipedia.org
Brazil is five time world champion, Belgium won nothing ever. LMAO
So by your logic every person with elbows originated from your country hence the name?
