This is the end of an era. We're watching both of their declines live

THIS YEAR IS SAHQIRI YEAR

The era of white man is over

>flag

Unfortunately he is. Lyon was pure trash yesterday and I just can't see Messi not raping them at Camp Nou.

The Sterling Cycle may begin

He will. Or at least one of those two things.

based

Messi is literally the best player in Europe right now, the lengths you deluded autists go to defend the tap-in faggot is astonishing

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at least Messi tried
Ronaldo scored on his own team and did fuck all with his chances. His best play tonight was a fucking free kick backwards pass to bernardeschi. He's been finished since 2013 and had a lucky 2017

of couse he will hole shit fucking kiwi. stop shitting up this board

Messi has been really underperforming this month so far tho. Last 4 games he was BAD

Basado. La etapa de Cristiano Pulisco viene muy pronto

Thanks for the (You), Chang

Who will be his rival?

T.Uefalona supporter

poor finishing from messi since a few games but damn he was creating gillions of chances, penaldo can only be usefull by scoring

>Doesn't know who leads serie a in assists

Frogposters are shit at talking about this sport

The age of Vinícius Jr is nigh

>Messi declining
>comparing him to Ronaldo in 2019

just kys retard, you haven't watched a single game outside of meme games you watch highlights of

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>4 games in a row without a goal or assist

Who else?

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There's a difference between creating chances and teammates scoring from deflected shots

yeah I saw those assists LMAO

>Proved wrong with stats
>Posts bullshit as a retort

Just stop posting

@91026024
he scored less than a week ago, you wog

Yeah, and? Do you even watch the games, not scoring in a game and Barcelona being in bad form doesn't mean he is bad. Just stop talking about things you have no idea about, you don't watch games so why do you even have an opinion that you think is relevant? If you actually watched the games you wouldn't come up with this retarded thread.

Seriously, this board is filled with morons like you who don't actually watch any games outside of knockout games in CL, it's pointless to discuss anything with people like you. You are literally a NPC tier poster.

>implying TSU wont score a hat trick at Turín

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SEETHING messoy dickrider on TSUicide watch

why are we even talking? cr7 is about to get eliminated from the ro16 of the CL

neck yourself fatass, Ronaldo is shit and has been for a long time now.
>but muh 3rd goal against Frosinone!

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Just end your life retard.

Pulisic

Vini Jr of course

>le playmaker
>shoot on keeper
>blocks the shot
>teammates shots it in
Wow!

no rival

the one thing that saves Messi right now is Barcelona's board pumping hundreds of millions into Dembeles and Coutinhos to make him look good.
Ronaldo doesn't have this at Juventus, they're not even top10 financially. also Perez didnt give a fuck since 2014.

so dont worry, Barcelona will spend another 300m in the next transfer window and Messi will still score hattricks against Huesca until he retires.

cr7 joined a team that reached 2 CL final in 4 years. no excuses. ZERO excuses.

When was the last time Coutinho even fucking played?

based

>Ronaldo is shit and has been for a long time now.
he got 48 goals in 48 games last season including 4/4 at the world cup.

and Messi reached 1 CL final since 2011. no excuses. ZERO excuses.

>Dembeles and Coutinhos to make him look good.

HAHAHAHAHA

dembele and coutinho have both been massive flops

anything creative/goals all flows from messi

CHI

His rival will unironically he Sancho.

>and Coutinhos to make him look good

They made it to those finals
WITHOUT penaldo

No excuses.

Cringe as fuck

>he got 48 goals in 48 games
It was 44 in 44, still 1 less goal than Messi and 10 assists less (8 vs 18)

And this season so far: Ronaldo, 21 goals and 10 assists in 33 games; Messi, 30 goals and 14 assists in 31 games

There is no competition

who in his right mind would suggest FUCKING COUTINHO is carrying Messi. ffs Romania you're absolutely mental.

lmao, dembele and couthinho were both shit yesterday. Messi was giving them chances that they squandered, did you even watch?

>Implying having donaldo on your team isn't going to get you a shit ton of jersey sales AT LEAST, not to mention every other time he posts about Juventus and is publicizing them.

I'm sure Messi will enjoy adding more hat tricks against both huesca AND Madrid while ronaldo gets knockout of the r16 with Juventus every year to come

lol okay I think this was bait

>It was 44 in 44, still 1 less goal than Messi
he got 48 goals in 48 games last season including 4 goals at the world cup.
he's currently top scorer in serie A. this doesn't sound like
>Ronaldo is shit and has been for a long time now.

>Messhit
>Tsuu
>White

>past weekend
>the Finisher of Frosinone
>this week
>???

TSUUUUUU

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No, that 44 number includes literally all games, not only on club level

And I didn't say Ronaldo was shit, you were the one briging Messi to the argument for no reason, and I told you Messi is still (and has always been) better. Both are still top 5 footballers, but Messi is better

He is not shit. He is an amazing player. But compared to how high people overestimate him he is performing really bad

Is there a more important game than the third in a 3-0 win at home against Frosinone?

cristiano gets routinely exposed as an average player if it wasn't for the 2016-2017 year he would be absolutely irrelevant now even bale was doing bicycle kicks

>you were the one briging Messi to the argument for no reason
because this is a thread about Messi and Ronaldo?

>Messi is still (and has always been) better.
1 CL in 8 years, 0 copa americas.

tone it down snownigger

New GOATs

1. Pogba
2. Mbappe
3. Rashford
4. Sterling
5. Dembele

Something all these players have in common.

They are all European?

The time of the orc has come

1. Mbappe
2. Dembele
3. Sancho

ah yes "the beautiful game"
imagine wanting your sport to become this

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>No, that 44 number includes literally all games

2017-2018

13 games in CL, 15 goals
27 games in la liga, 26 goals
2 games in CWC, 2 goals
1 supercopa game, 1 goal
1 uefa supercup game for 7 minutes, 0 goals
4 games at the World Cup, 4 goals
4 games in World Cup qualifications, 4 goals
4 friendlies with Portugal, 3 goals

Ronaldo scored 55 goals in 56 games, 0.98 goals per game.

Messi scored 45 goals in 54 games for his club, then 7 goals in all 10 games for Argentina
thats 52 goals in 64 games. 0.81 goals per game.

stop lying on the internet.

This. Tsunaldo fanboys absolutely seething

This. The truth hurts judging by the replies.

>1 CL in 8 years, 0 copa americas.
Why make a cut in 8 years? Stop cherrypicking

Messi is 31, how many CLs did Ronaldo have at his age, 3?

>uses chink money to buy entire block of foreclosed houses in the city of BROWNsville to rent to you and 300 of your chicano cousins
I'd probably be angry enough to do this if I wasn't a white chad

>m-messi is finished too

Hardly.

cwc is free af and you're including his friendlies? yeah, fuck off

Mutt american thinking about nothing but the blacked video he fapped to earlier

>But compared to how high people overestimate him he is performing really bad
he's a 34 year old player in a team that's not even top10 in Europe. he certainly wont surpass his Real Madrid performances.

I've included Messsi's friendlies too and his hattrick against Haiti.

Messi is not on a superteam spoonfeeding him though so his 31-33 won't be anything like Cristianos

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>Barcelona were playing like shit
>buy 30 years old Vidal and 31 years old Boateng to fix the midfield
what did they mean by this

>Hardly.
they both choked at the world cup, they both choked this last16 round. international football is intense and they got old.

if you count Messi's goals against Huesca then you should also count Ronaldo's goals against Sassuolo.

>Messi is not on a superteam spoonfeeding him though

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Yeah Ronaldo never played with other good players
>inb4 you post the picture of a RM lineup conveniently missing their best players at the time like Marcelo

Woke

t. Julio

what did that second team do? The Spanish team that got thrashed by Netherlands and Chile by a combined 7 goals and eliminated in group stage? those brazilian players that lost by another 7 to Germany? Rakitic who couldn't get out of the group stage? what a joke

>Yeah Ronaldo never played with other good players
my point is they both had superteams.

no he's going to post the Summer 2009 USA tour real madrid team featuring Gago and Garay calling them bad, who Messi got to a world cup final with.

Richarligod

>flag
every time

So why were you posting in the other thread saying the opposite?

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lol have did you even watch Messi's last La Liga game? He was awful in all ways

>what did that second team do?
spoonfed Messi and won a treble

Neymar: 39 goals, 10 assists
Suarez: 25 goals, 23 assists

imagine having two attacking partners who can score 64 goals and assist 33 times

>8 key passes (more than the entire opposition team) and 4 dribbles
Truly terrible. Only the highest rated player of the game

Ronaldo only played in a team of 2006, 2009, 2011 and 2015 Barcelona's caliber after his 30's

Are you sure those numbers are right? Remember you told me that Suarez only scored 16 goals last season, when he actually scored double that, that was when you were telling me that Suarez was actually shit
He played in a team of that caliber from 2011-2017

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>the opposite
what? I said between 2010-2013 Real had a shit team under Mourinho.

Based

How many times did he pass to the opposition again?

imagine spending all your time on 4channel defending athletes that don't even know you exist

Didn't you say he "Awful in all ways"?
Which is a blatant lie seeing as the team they won the CL with next season was almost exactly the same as the one Mourinho built

>He played in a team of that caliber from 2011-2017

No.

Well, I meant if you replaced Ronaldo with Messi, then yes

Julio sounds pretty based

You can really tell the past few years have taken a toll on Messi fans. You now remember people thinking he was gonna peak late on in his career, evident now that he peaked early.

An expression, the point is the other dude was trying to pull the good old "even when Messi doesn't score he's still amazing in other ways" which is untrue and straight up damage control

Yeah, creating more chances than the entire opposition was just a display of how terrible he is when he doesn't score

If you replace Messi and Ronaldo with players of the caliber Mourinho's Real Madrid is way worse than Pep's Barcelona

>implying these filthy negros are better than the grease man

Nvm you didn't watch the game

>create a ton of chances and take a ton of shots against some ligue 1 farmers
>produce no end result
>zoomers only end up staring at your stats when the game ends

Not by much. Mourinho had 2 of the 3 best playmakers in the world in Ozil and Di Maria, the best full back in the world in Marcelo, and elite CB pairing of Ramos and Pepe, another top tier midfielder of Xabi Alonso and decent goal scorers in Higuain and Benzema who were statistically on par with Villa and Pedro

>wah wah stats hurt my feelings I hate context because it ruins my arguments

>Which is a blatant lie
no it's not, they were shit between 2010-2013. after Mourinho left they were good again, almost like Manure now.

Suarez is currently garbage and chokes hard in CL

>He played in a team of that caliber from 2011-2017

2014-2015
Neymar: 39 goals, 10 assists
Suarez: 25 goals, 23 assists

2008-2009
Henry: 26 goals, 11 assists
Etoo: 36 goals, 9 assists

please post seasons where Ronaldo's two attacking partners scored 60+ goals.

Aren't we talking about 2010-13?
Henry and Eto'o weren't there in 2010-13. They had Villa and Pedro, who like I said were on par with Higauin and Benzema

This guy and bernardo silva are about to be top 5 in the next season or 2

The planck time of pulisic est proche

forgot pic cus im retarded

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>Aren't we talking about 2010-13?
yes, when Real was shit under Mourinho.

>Villa and Pedro, who like I said were on par with Higauin and Benzema
those two world cup & euro winners are not on par with Higuain and Benzema.
you're going full circle again implying Xavi-Iniesta is just like Diarra-Khedira.
Barcelona had a stacked team while Real was shit and Mourinho was cancer, deal with it.

>Who will be his rival?

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>muh world cup
>muh euro
You were spouting goals and assists earlier, and not titles won
List me the goals scored of Benzema and Higuain compared to Villa and Pedro

I'm not ready yet to delete my TSU and MISSI meme folders

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We assume so when we see the flag

>He played in a team of that caliber from 2011-2017
imagine saying Chicharito and James are just like Iniesta and Villa

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how much times did this particular lineup start if I may ask?

Es verdad

Would you look at that, another cherrypicked shitty line up. Surely with all of the line ups you've downloaded you've got one with Marcelo, right? You want me to download a Barcelona line up with Gerard Deulofeu or Jose Arnaiz playing?

How will Yea Forums react when Pulisic, an American, becomes the new GOAT of soccer?

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>tfw Vini Jr age has arrived
>this time the brazillian is not a creatura but a full blown nigga

What does that mean?

It means once he loses a step in 4 years he fades into nothing like Nigerians

>You want me to download a Barcelona line up with Gerard Deulofeu or Jose Arnaiz playing?
sure, if it's a CL semifinal like the one I posted

>List me the goals scored of Benzema and Higuain compared to Villa and Pedro

as soon as you list seasons where Ronaldo's two attacking partners scored 60+ goals. you said Ronaldo had Barca2006/2009/2011/2015 caliber teams between 2011-2017.

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holy shit romania is back
it's the age of KANGZ

>CL semifinal
*actually quarterfinal

The Lingard Lore begins

From 2009-2017 Real Madrid scored more goals than Barcelona did. Real Madrid may have not have a secondary duo but that's because they spread the ball more

>le Pacey Nigger Era

Just. kill. me.

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Isaac Cuenca played for Barca in a CL SF

The only Real player to make it in the top 10 players of the year list longside Ronaldo those years was Casillas (gk) while Messi had 2 or 3, either midfielders or forwards

It doesn't compare

>The only Real player to make it in the top 10 players of the year list
Oh who gives a fuck about that, I mean really? That's how you judge a player? Ozil leads the entire fucking world in chances created but because he doesn't make it on a journalist list you don't rate him? Do better than that

>From 2009-2017 Real Madrid scored more goals than Barcelona did.

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>direct match ups
What the fuck does that have to do with what I said? Real Madrid have scored more goals, objectively. They win those games because they had Messi

You don't unironically believe a midfield of Khedira-Ozil-Xabi is on the same level of Xavi-Busquets-Iniesta right?

Do you think he did TSU because he knew it would be a meme?

>Americans instantly start BLACKED posting

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I believe that you're overrated Barcelona's players when it comes to Messi's personal statistics. You really think that Messi scored more because of someone like Xavi, in his mid 30s, compared to Ozil and Di Maria, who were the two most creative players in Europe? Just from a Messi vs Ronaldo personal statistic perspective?

>Real Madrid may have not have a secondary duo but that's because they spread the ball more
and because Ronaldo never had Henry Neymar Etoo Suarez Villa Zlatan next to him.
he had Benzema Higuain Chicharito Adebayor Joselu Morata.

imagine needing additional explanations on which one of these forwards had more impact on their team.

>You really think that Messi scored more because of someone like Xavi
yea I think having the most internationally succesful and most cohesive midfield line in modern era had something to do with it.

He has many more goals, assists and is better all around. And younger.

His powers are waning but not as much as penaldo, who can’t even score tap ins as often any more. He is FINISHED. Messi will win the blonde oar again.

>and because Ronaldo never had Henry Neymar Etoo Suarez Villa Zlatan next to him.
he had Benzema Higuain Chicharito Adebayor Joselu Morata.
What does that have to do with what I said? Real Madrid just scored more goals. They had midfielders like Di Maria and Ozil and Marcelo to score as well
>yea I think having the most internationally succesful
Again with this shit. Ozil created the most chances in Europe, that helps with scoring

Just stop posting you seem retarded

Messi is still better but yeah his stats got boosted more from playing in a perfect system with the perfect players for him, which is shown by his attacking stats taking a dip afterwards

How have they taken a dip? He has won back to back golden boots without Xavi or Iniesta and is again leading Europe. It more like a bell cure. He played very well, then he had a stand out years, and now he's back to the original level

The Vinicius jr/ Mbrrrrappé era is upon us

Jesus Christ, gypsies are this stupid?

>Messi will win the blonde oar again.
not if he chokes again in CL

>Ozil created the most chances in Europe, that helps with scoring
not if you have shitters upfront like Benzema Higuain Chicharito Adebayor Joselu Morata.
when Messi was tired then a world class forward stepped up.
when Ronaldo was tired Benzema would hit the crossbar and Higuain would miss a sitter.

also lmao at Ozil, he wasnt a big game player at all, thats why they kicked him out after the Dortmund embarrassment. he was always a lazy cunt, you're just in love with his assists stats against Granada.

>How have they taken a dip?
20 goals less in his 3 seasons combined without Xavi vs with Xavi, no ballon door, no CL. also Suarez is garbage.
this is how it feels to play with a shitter next to you and mediocre midfield.

based

>Ozil created the most chances in Europe, that helps with scoring
useless if you dont show up in key games while defending like a retard.
that's why Kroos and Modric were 10x better.

Okay lets have a look (only counting non-penalty goals)

>Pep not coaching, Xavi and Iniesta playing
2004-05: 9 apps / 1 goal / 0 assists
2005-06: 25 apps / 8 goals / 3 assists
2006-07: 36 apps / 17 goals / 3 assists
2007-08: 40 apps / 12 goals / 13 assists
>Pep coaching, Xavi and Iniesta playing
2008-09: 51 apps / 36 goals / 17 assists
2009-10: 53 apps / 45 goals / 11 assists
2010-11: 55 apps / 50 goals / 23 assists
2011-12: 60 apps / 62 goals / 29 assists
>Pep not coaching, Xavi and Iniesta playing
2012-13: 50 apps / 55 goals / 15 assists
2013-14: 46 apps / 35 goals / 14 assists
2014-15: 57 apps / 55 goals / 17 assists
>Pep not coaching, Xavi not playing, Iniesta playing
2015-16: 49 apps / 41 goals / 23 assists
2016-17: 52 apps / 46 goals / 16 assists
2017-18: 54 apps / 42 goals / 18 assists
>Pep not coaching, Xavi and Iniesta not playing
2018-19: 31 apps / 28 goals / 14 assists so far

Hasn't reached the 2011-12 season levels evendoe he was only 24, so yeah I'd say his stats were boosted during those years

>Real Madrid just scored more goals.
between 2009-2018 in la liga

Barcelona conceded 263 goals
Real Madrid conceded 334 goals

Real Madrid scored more yet won 2 la ligas.

what is the point of scoring more goals than Barcelona if you win 2 la ligas? useless argument.

>have NZ flag
>post contrarian argument
>"Ronaldinho was garbage"
>try to justify your initial contrarian argument
>go round and round by moving goal posts and defying any kind of common sense while wrongfully calling out fallacies
>haha I'm le epic troll, got'em!
>200 replies
>onto the next thread
>"Ozil is goat and Khedira was better than Xavi, that's a fact."

freddy adu

But Messi is still objectively the best player in Europe in like 5 categories

>best player in europe
>choke every year to subpar teams in CL

Please don't be upset. Scoring goals in the CL isn't the only way a player is measured, I know that might be hard to understand

>it's a cigan vehemently defends fraudnaldo with every second post in the thread episode

Lmao just lmao. Did you cry today?

>160 replies trying to argue stats
that's funny

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>not even zidane would want fraudnaldo

Jesus, ouch

>zizou picked luka for his all-time xi
holy based

>pic related is goat
that's funny

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the age of Vinicius Jr. and Mbappe is upon us
both will play in RM tho

>reeee I miss Iniesta
>reeeeee xavi where are you???

It's 4 AM in Europe lad, can't sleep through the tears?

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No, his best play was that free kick he hit early on. Down the keeper's throat but insanely powerful.

It's amazing BAD Messi is still best player

you mean mbappe

Imagine giving a shit about comparing their all time career stats and who scored more in this competition and blah blah blah. It's extremely autistic to care about goal ratio and shit like that, just be glad to have witnessed two ridiculously good players in the same era. Does it really matter who scored more tap-ins against European farmers, or who has a better goal ratio in the Copa Del Rey?

why the fuck did you post this then you cuck

>Best players play in best teams
Wow, I didn't know that before

If you're gonna be this autistic and try to make Messi look like shit or whatever, why include that article about Argentina losing to Peru and the possibility of him missing the World Cup? He literally scored a hat-trick in the final game to save them, you fucking idiot

Was Cafu really that good? someone redpill me on him

Interesting pic related
>Loss vs. Chelsea where Madrid didn't win the CL either that season
>Messi losing in the WC final; something Ronaldo will never even reach
>Barca losing to Bayern the same year Real lost to Dortmund

Pretty much the only valid ones are the 3-0 to Juve, 3-0 Roma and Copa loss.

Because my BLACKED subscription is over

We need a WHITED spinoff where a white man marries a black woman and provides for his family.

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because focusing on a certain time frame can do wonders

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Came to post this lmao

shitty genetics from both parents , i feel sorry for the kids

At least they’re growing up in a loving family you shitstain.

>Pretty much the only valid ones are the 3-0 to Juve, 3-0 Roma and Copa loss.
...and even then who gives a shit? Pointless cherry picking. Imagine a pic of Messi's greatest moments. Or imagine a pic of Ronaldo's worst. Fucking pointless either way.

That's my point. Idk why he has to cope so hard

Exactly bro. You destroyed messicucks, they had to swallow a sleeping pill because of the truth you showed to them.

I think I will legit shed a tear the days these two retire can't beleive I watched messi's carreer from start to finish on tv and I am still a neet loser

Very interesting factoid about that Barca shirt. Notice that the cross is missing and that it's just a red vertical line on the crest. This isn't to avoid copyright infringement; the shirt is obviously a Barca shirt without the cross and you'll notice the Madrid shirt has an intact crest; I thought this was strange until a friend educated me on the fact that Muslims prefer not to wear a cross so this counterfeit crest is popular here, even on Barca flags.

didnt one of the teams remove the cross officially
i remember reading something like that

nigger you're from egypt how come you didn't know muslims don't like to wear crosses until your friend told you

uh bro hes black

test

>nigger you're from egypt how come you didn't know muslims don't like to wear crosses until your friend told you

Because all our counterfeit shirts all have their crests intact and many of those crests have crosses: AC Milan, Portugal, cross on top of the Real crown, but for some reason they only paid attention to the Barca kit. Must be because Barca shirts are sold more.

Mbebop has already peaked

>Must be because Barca shirts are sold more.
probably, doubt they sell that many madrid shirts in your country after the whole salah incident, so they probably don't care about removing the cross

Ok now THIS is bait
*cracks* *sips*
BUUUUUUUURP

>doubt they sell that many madrid shirts in your country after the whole salah incident

Not really, people made a big deal out of the Ramos challenge but they're over it now.

l for once am ready to welcome the aeon of zaniolo, even if we have to endure the recess of mbappe first

well tbf it's been almost a year already, most people have probably forgotten about it

The real new Messi/Ronaldo will be Vinicius and Dembele

>La Cosa vs. ngubu the ultimate showdown in global football
shudder to think of

The white man manlet, Diego Lainez

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that guy isn't white user

Mixed is the new white.

The End of football?

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are you retarded?

Madrid has objectively had a better offense for the years that I listed. They scored more and created more chances

>rating shitty ''english'' players
never change inglard

yeah, 46 scorer points at 31 appearences, that sure is pathetic

But that's my point. Messi had a peak, like every player has a peak. Ronaldo has his best year under Ancelotti, but nobody acts like he Ancelotti was some massive help to have. Nobody plays 100% consistently across their entire career

the hegemony of havertz is afoot