Why Rock music from the 50s sound so dated? It's almost like primitive. I can't be the only one who thinks this

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>Always assume Elvis was just barely one step above the mountains of generic Rock’N’Roll revolving door artists of the 50s and never knew why he was such a big deal
>Finally decide to listen to his discography
>Find treasure trove of great Country/Folk, Rock, and Soul music
How can one of the most successful artists of all time end up being so forgotten relatively quickly after his death aside from Las Vegas impersonators? How come you never hear people talk about him quite in the same vein as The Beatles or Johnny Cash or other contemporaries today?

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Not sure but maybe because he didn't write bis own music?

For some reason I forgot most of his hits were either covers or were written y others. I thought he would’ve at least have had some credit in his originally recorded shit, especially a bit later in his career like “A Little Less Conversation” but I guess I was wrong

Because he is mainstream as fuck so it's not cool to say you love his music. Still, he did some wonderful albums.

because country/folk has always been adjacent to the mainstream of the music industry in the decades since his death, while rock was dominant until the 2000s so those artists remained culturally relevant, until the late 2000s/2010s, where pop shit and rap has become the mainstream- in another 20 years or so people will probably cease talking about the Beatles or Bowie in the same way as they do now

Rock’n roll is basically the logical conclusion of the direction Swing, and Folks increasing Tin Pan Alley influences from the prior decades

it's mostly just I IV V all over the place

>in another 20 years or so people will probably cease talking about the Beatles or Bowie in the same way as they do now
Academics will eventually carry the torch of Classic Rock and Progressive Rock and Bowie and The Beatles will eventually be the new Mozart and Bach. Hell for decades since The Beatles broke up there ave been Beatles classes in UK schools dedicated to analyzing their music even though both John and Paul said they think its cringe as fuck.

>where pop shit and rap has become the mainstream
Go look at some 90s charts and get back to me. Guess what was on the radio in 1992? Mariah Carey and House of Pain not Alice in Chains.

The quantity of rock on the top 40 was significantly higher in the 90s even though rock music didn’t always end up on the number 1 spot

Rock wasn't where it was at in the 50s. Yr listening to the wrong genre if you want music that holds up from back then

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I don't see any rock on here other than some awful power ballads which don't really count as "rock" anyway.

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This

>when she drives me crazy and the look are by far the best songs on there
Wew what a bad chart

Based
Retards here don’t understand but once upon a time Jazz was literally considered the pinnacle of musical achievement in terms of sheer composition and technical ability. Mid 20th century Jazz played into the postwar Utopian dream of perfectionism we will never see again.

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Thank God the 80s hits station doesn't play these. Chicago and Richard Marx? *Gag*

1989 admittedly was an exceptionally horrible year for Top 40.

Phil Collins had legit rock cred unlike Richard Marx so he got away with his goopy adult contemp sludge.

The years between the decline of hair metal and Nirvanas debut were a dark era for Rock in general.

Depends what station they were on rock ones

There's no such thing as "dated" music and music does not have to be complex to be good.
That being said, nobody in 50s Rock & Roll can be called a genius.

imo 1986-1990 was the was worst period for music, post-1950.
Obviously it wasn't all bad, but there wasn't even as much good non-mainstream music as there was before and after that period.

Once you 'get' it it's got more sex and violence in it than any hip hop and is heavier than any metal. There's few artists nowadays that can tap into that same energy, much like there's few artists in jazz who can capture the soul of jazz between the 40s and 60s. Kinda like a white kid dressing and rapping about the ghetto, the lifestyle and environment around the music bled into the music itself.

But you'll have to listen to shit for years to get it.

>That being said, nobody in 50s Rock & Roll can be called a genius.

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>yfw you realize what Maybellene is actually about

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People don't give Chuck Berry enough respect. A true fucking psycho in every positive sense of the word

Little Richard also. He was pretty radical for the time.

Chicago died with Terry Kath. Everything after that is some unrelated elevator music act calling itself Chicago.

>Once you 'get' it it's got more sex and violence in it than any hip hop and is heavier than any metal
I dunno if it had more, but in the 50s you had to be subtle about that stuff which required more cleverness of songwriting than in a later generation when you could just be up front about sex and violence.

Reminder that Chuck Berry was still fucking recording new music at the time of his death at age 90, in 2017! He probably gave more of a shit about the industry than half the artists in the top 40 today

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But also there was so much stigma around sex and fapping that the youth was basically on permanent nofap; that insane horniness really got into the music. I'd even say that's why a lot of 70s stuff lacks that same energy.

>that insane horniness really got into the music

Girls went so insane over British Invasion groups that they peed themselves (literally) and concert halls would be a river of piss. Back at that time sexuality especially female sexuality was really repressed so these girls just went completely insane.

It’s why music in general today lacks that energy. Hell its probably why nobody is having sex anymore. Porn is way too east to find nowadays. The nofap faggots are mostly wrong about everything except maybe the fact avoiding fapping does up your sex drive

>concert halls would be a river of piss

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Miss You Much isn't bad because it had some of Prince's guys producing and these dudes were pop geniuses.

>Bowie and The Beatles will eventually be the new Mozart and Bach

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It’s not too far fetched when you realize Mozart literally wrote about shit. These classical artists people out on a pedestal were once upon a time just really talented contemporary artists like any other. Academicucks ruined classical music in a way as a result

At classical concerts back in the day there used to be riots if the audience didn't like the performance (notably when Stravinsky debuted The Rite of Spring).

Elvis did so much awful cheese in his career it overshadows his actual artistic accomplishments.

It's like how Sugarhill Gang and Kurtis Blow's rhymes sound goofy compared to later rap

kurtis blow is better than all the meme rap that pervades this board

Liszt was the first artist with rabbid stans. Time is a flat circle

boomer teenagers had no entry point for the prevailing jazz geniuses of the time. rock n roll was a party and was a euphemism for sex
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multi track recording was the revolution. even NASA thanks Les Paul for pioneering this method in the late 40s. youtube.com/watch?v=AnSha2CKQ

Quincy Jones and Leslie Gore did multitracked vocals on It's My Party, this instantly rendered people like Connie Francis obsolete and nobody has tried to sound like that since.

it all sounds old, you stupid autist
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sorry les

Reminder the best "rock" music from that era is actually BLACK rhythm & blues from the late '40s and early '50s (before they went all clean and Motown in the '60s to try and impress wh*Peepo)
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Elvis sounds puny as fuck by comparison, desu.

To be fair there was plenty of white proto-rock from this time which was equally raw. You might not know it but punk rock was born in the bars and clubs of the Midwest and South in the 50s-60s, it wasn't invented by 70s NYC hipsters like revisionist histories written by '''critics''' claims.

Aside from Motown, Chess was also always a very pop-flavored, commercial label and their blues releases were considerably tamed and slicked up compared to the raw stuff from the Chicago club scene.

I'm just memeing with the KARA BOGA stuff, there's nothing wrong with Motown or rockabilly. It's just obnoxious how the revisionist """""""critics""""""" you mentioned seem to completely ignore the raw, fuzzed-out R&B that was being put on wax 10-15 years earlier than the stuff on Nuggets or Pebbles. The heavier garage/surf/rockabilly guys like Link Wray seem to have been rediscovered in the 1990s/2000s and gone through a "second wave" of popularity (if they even had a first one during their original career), but I feel like there's an untapped well of heavy proto-rock in the old "race records"

Jazz, trad pop, and doo-wop were really more the music of the urban Northeast in the 50s.

I mean, these guys act like the Velvets and the Dolls invented punk rock when that's obviously silly. That's always been the narrative peddled in rock histories for decades though. Not to say the NYC scene wasn't important or influential, but being in a major media capital it was always going to get a disproportionate amount of attention compared with what was happening in other, less connected parts of the country.

I've always suspected that there were probably live performances by garage/surf groups in the early 1960s that would have sounded pretty close to what was called "punk" in the 1970s. People were cranking their amps for a long time before it was acceptable to put that on pop records.

Applies in equal part to the UK where the London scene always got more press coverage than Manchester or Birmingham.

Where did this "mozart once wrote a song about shit so he couldn't have known music theory" meme start?

Wow, it's almost like the 60s are considered a revolutionary decade for music!

You fucking imbecile.

The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Velvet Underground happened.