are any neofolk bands actual nazis? Like, more seriously into nazi shit than Death in June?
the whole genre is sketchy/borderline yikes, but I want to know which artists to DEFINITELY avoid.
Are any neofolk bands actual nazis? Like, more seriously into nazi shit than Death in June?
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>borderline yikes
Nazis have their own neofolk style bands, that have nothing to do with the scene. Nordglanz is one of those bands. The worst thing you'll find on the fringes of the actual neofolk scene are Halgadom (project of Frank Krämer of rechtsrock band Stahlgewitter) and some bands that share personell with Halgadom, like Allerseelen. But they're not really neofolk anyway and I don't know about their actual politics.
Also, are you just getting into neofolk? Do you want some recs?
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Yeah, as long as it's not fashy or "muh europe" to a sketchy degree
All I know is Wakeford of Sol Invictus used to be a member of the National Front in the 80's, so he definitely espoused those sort of ideas at one point in his life, but he's spent decades backpedaling, expressing regret and trying to distance himself from it.
This is on point, with martial industrial artists often falling in the same camp as neofolk ones.
Your stereotypical knuckle dragging, swaztika tattoed, sieg heiling, white powering neo nazi skinhead is more likely to perform or listen to RAC.
>wishy-washy politics
>"I'm not a nazi, I'm more into third position esotericism..."
seems to be a prevailing theme in neofolk and martial industrial. you can either try reading the authors who likely inspired them, or you can take it on good faith that they genuinely disagree with the holocaust or any ethnic genocide, and that they believe any racial identity they have shouldn't be necessarily oppositional to other peoples, or you can take the easier route of just giving them a wide berth and getting on with your own life.
did people forget that the chad meme is supposed to be ironic?
here's a rec of a recent release for you.
nothing about this album strikes me as politically sketchy.
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If you haven't already, I urge you to check out these DI6 releases that some people overlook: Lesson 1: Misanthropy (versions of their earliest songs), 93 Dead Sunwheels (versions of Nada! songs), :Black Whole Of Love: (versions of Rose Clouds Of Holocaust songs) and Scorpion Wind (legendary drummer John Murphy with DI6 on guitar and Boyd Rice reciting the best verses of his entire career). Also, don't let the title track of Rose Clouds deter you from the rest of the album, great compositions and great lyrics there.
Other bands I urge everyone to check out: Naevus (begin with Silent Life or Relatively Close To The Sea), Sonne Hagal and Rome (some of the best lyricism and most professional musicianship in the genre, later albums especially).
For more personalized recommendations, tell me what kind of neofolk you listen to and what you enjoy about it.
I don't think that meme is entirely serious, m8.
>aerodynamic head
>pants will never fall down
I think it's funny.
even a lot of blatant neo-nazis don't 'support' ethnic genocide, since they deny the holocaust, and generally claim the nastier parts of nazi germany were made up as propaganda by the allies. the only reason they'd deny it the holocaust is if they know it's atrocious.
OP, your pic is a metal band, you idiot.
It's kind of hard to deny the holocaust now. Even David Irving has recanted, and he was at the fore of holocaust skepticism and historical revisionism.
The down-low of what Irving now believes, since he ostensibly trawled through primary evidence to inform his biography on Himmler, is that the holocaust was a project of the SS ordered first and foremost by Himmler, keeping Hitler out of the loop and subverting his leadership.
Essentially, Irving seems determined at every turn to exonerate Hitler specifically. Even if he is true that the holocaust was an SS project kept secret from Hitler, I don't think Hitler can be exonerated - after all, the antisemitic rhetoric from Hitler, Goebbels, Streicher et al surely emboldened an antisemitic attitude within the party which was acted out by the likes of Himmler. Hitler allowed that attitude to flourish within the Nazi ranks and at no point sought to openly contest and control it, even if - as Irving claims - he may have personally not held ill will towards all Jews, or even protected some from persecution.
Fuck that wimpy ambiguous neo-folk shit.
Just stick with WP/RAC Oi! and Black Metal.
They let you know they're the real deal, and say so explicitly in their lyrics.
But neofolk isn't about hiding their nazi ideology. It's about proclaiming each artist's personal brand non-nazi new-right ideology, which is far cooler. How can anyone be an unironic nazi in this day and age if not for reasons of contrarianism?
I'm absolutely in love with Death In June and Current 93, wich I've been listening to nonstop for half a year now. From both artists there are still many things I have yet to listen to, like the DI6 albums this poster mentions whom I only know of Scorpion Wind (really on point what you said about Boyd Rice here) and of course Rose Clouds, wich is a really beautiful album...
Of C93 I know much less, but still love immensively and been discovering stuff from them from time to time. I'm deeply in love with Swastikas for Noddy, Black Ships, Earth Covers Earth, THunder Perfect Mind and The Inmost Light. What other albums by C93 would you guys recommend me?
Also... Are there any other Neofolk bands I should check out? Judging Neofolk only for what I know from DI6 and C93, I connect deeply with it's beautiful lyrics, and I honestly don't consider them nazi at all, I think it's all beyond that, like sometimes It pokes fun of the original nazi obsession with the sublime and it's social culture (Comes to my mind tracks like "Heilige Tod" by DI6 and "Hey, Ho! The Noddy oh! " by C93, both of them give me the feeling of being sort of parodies of what the Hitler Youth would make you sing in a choir group, of the kind of popular songs they would sing during camping days, wich I find charming, and both beautifully singed by Rose Mcdowall)
But when I tried listening to things from the likes of Rome or Sol Invictus, I don't know, I haven't connected with them yet, they feel like they're self aware neofolk, but maybe I haven't been listening carefully enough... So, what do you guys recommend me?
Cult Of Youth is the only current "neo-folk" band I enjoy.
Keep on trying with Rome. He has a unique vision and is clearly one of the most intelligent writers in all of neofolk. I recommend their latest release nd The Hyperion Machine. Sol Invictus is hard to get into because Tony Wakeford is a terrible singer and guitarist, and his style of playing doesn't lend itself well to that lack of talent as well as Doug's monotonous strumming does. Did you try Sonne Hagal? You'll have to elaborate on that self-awareness you see in Rome/SI and perhaps on what you enjoy about Death In June a little bit for better recs. Apart from that, maybe you will find something here
Does anyone have that hilarious Tintin comic edit
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I'm pretty sure none of the major neofolk bands are nazis so you're probably good.
>borderline yikes
Kill yourself faggot
>Kill yourself
>faggot
Oof, that's gotta be a double yikes from me.
>GBK
fukkin based as hell
>GBK without Black Lourde
pussy shit
The way you choose to present yourself is insufferable.
Yes, that is the point.
people who are actually braindead enough to care forget the fact Douglas is an openly gay man who has worked on multiple acts including DIJ with jewish artists. So take that however you want.
Nazis? No, idiot.
>DEFINITELY avoid
>borderline yikes
Maybe you should stick to sucking cocks, faggot. Think that's more your speed.
>faggot
oof...
>half of his music career was fundee by his sugar daddy
>he acted in geriatric gay porn
>his last 5 albums sound like the same song with slightly different lyrics
>ended his friendship with David Tibet because he couldn't stand working with Tiny Tim who was too "homophobic"
He's pretty much a ruse a this point, controversy is what is keeping him relevant. Boyd at least does some fun stuff like participating in jello sculpture contests and shitposting from cat conventions
>his last 5 albums
There are some good songs on those.
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And they all sound like Death In June songs, yes.
>ended his friendship with David Tibet because he couldn't stand working with Tiny Tim who was too "homophobic"
He was friends with Boyd Rice afterwards though, who was also involved with Tiny Tim. Plus he's still friends with Michael Monyahin, Ian Read and other, who have some friends and collaborators much more homophobic than Tiny Tim. The truth is, that David and Douglas were drifting apart anyway, mostly because David couldn't stand Douglas' fascination with fascism growing ever more problematic - as is evident from that Song For Douglas that Tibet recorded.
>he acted in geriatric gay porn
Yeah, and the other dude looked just like Ernst Röhm. Is that not based and redpilled?
if you genuinely think DIJ are facists then you are the wrong kind of retarded for this site. And probably a flaming ideologue
>tfw female sportscasters
>Yeah, and the other dude looked just like Ernst Röhm. Is that not based and redpilled?
Dafuq did you tell them apart? I watched the whole thing and barely recognized Douglas, all the actors are equally fat, white haired and with no body hair. Couldn't tell where a scene ended and another one started, and I watched a lot of gay porn in my life
He's the one with the Totenkopf tattoo. Pretty easy to spot.
>watched the whole thing
That's kind of gay desu
>That's kind of gay desu
I just finished dowloading 12gb of Brazilian wrestling gay porn, so 1 hour of geriatric pron was an easy watch.
btw, am I the only one that wishes there was a Cyclobe sex-tape? Stevo and Ossian are still hot af and I remember from an old interview that it was hard for them to make music together because they always ended up having fucking before finishing a song. This was before they lost all of their recordings recently
Oof. that's gotta be a "it is permissible to be gay, fellow human being" from me.
Thats a fucking AWB flag, the fuck....
Off by one, damn, also
>the fuck....
I have a hunch that OP's pic is showing some sort of nazi rock band, so that flag isn't very surprising, is it?