/gg/ - Guitar & Bass General

Depression Edition.

How do I start learning guitar?
>https:/www.justenguitar.com/
>studybass.com//
Guitar chords and inversions
>chordbaok.com/guitar_chords
String tension calculator (D'Addario-based):
>stringtensionpro.com/
Music theory:
>http:/musictheory.net.lessons/
Guitar Maintenance and other information:
>frudua.com-guitar-craftpedia-en.html
Why is my guitar buzzing?
>frets.com/Frets/Pages/Luthier/Technique/Setup/BuzzDiagnosis/buzzlist.html
Large repository of tabs, books and other resources related to playing and theory:
>mega.nz/#F!KIoilagK!3KtnUHdTW43VsQu7QjJS_g

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vocaroo.com/i/s09y3nODzgvi
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vocaroo.com/i/s1e0cUFpofKx.
youtube.com/watch?v=fIlg3WCX2jw&t=146
youtu.be/W3loHqY4Ls8
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

1 more day

>tfw trapped in scale patterns

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>God Tier
Paul Davids
Adam Neely
>High Tier
Rick Beato
Rob Scallon
Samuraiguitarist
>Mid tier
Phillip McKnight
Music is Win
>Shit Tier
Davie504

Who else should I add to this list?

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>missing trogly

Never heard of him, he seems pretty comfy though

what are some pedals?

EHX Grand Canyon

troy Grady is god tier not them

DW2 Analog Delay
DS1 Distortion

why chase your dreams if everyone is against you

fuzzrocious grey stache

Condor: At Least We Aren't Dean!

Jroach: At Least I'm Not Sammy!

>cranking that chip reverb
wat is this nigga doin?

Sammy is a better player

He's got a lot of trap influence.

youtube.com/watch?v=R1Lsji518sc
How does he play so cleanly bros

>God Tier
Jens Larsen
Adam Neely
>High Tier
Rick Beato (close to God Tier, but Jens is better at explaining and demonstrating jazz stuff)
Samuraiguitarist
>Mid tier
Music is Win (but like, low-Mid tier)
Davie504
>Shit Tier
Rob Scallon

I know Davie504 is pretty cringe but he has personality that comes through his deadpan delivery and he's been using his platform to showcase other bassists.

>Rob Scallon
I like him because of all the odd instruments he has people trot out.

Troy grady is the only person on youtube actually teaching guitar technique stuff.

the only actually good ones are jens larsen and chords of Orion. also watch ola englund. jens larsen is top dog.

God, Mary Spencer is such a hot slampig

>Davie504
>Anything but shit tier
"Hurrr my bass is not a guitar durr!"
He's an insufferable faggot like every bass player.

I agree that Troy has produced some pretty great content in his obsessive pursuit of technique (and also drops some cool history lessons on the advancement of different guitar styles), but when I discovered his channel and website and went through his stuff I really didn't get much out of it. I'm worried that players who spend too much time pouring over the mechanics of their playing like he does will miss out on developing their overall musicianship, especially things like phrasing and ear training and harmony. Most players naturally develop their technique through imitating the players they like.

Nothing against the man himself, anyway. Troy seems like a good dude. The guitar player who mentored me always emphasized musicality over technique, and he was a music school grad with decades of experience playing and recording.

>he can't afford a Gibson, the only guitar which is good enough, because he spent all of his money on his doctors repairing his inguinal canal damage from a muffing session gone horribly wrong

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I've gotten a ton out of his videos, my technique improved immediately and its kind of plateued. a lot of my friends in uni (I study music) dont need to intellectualize their picking to get chops but it's helped me immensely. I also disagree with the last part. You need the technique to make the music, nothing more frustrating than going to play a solo and fudging notes or playing out of time because you can't pick fluidly. Even simple stuff becomes much easier when you have good technique. Jim hall is great but imagine if he had actual chops, he could play a lot of music he heard but couldn't play due to a lack of technical control.

That's cool, like I said, I just haven't really gotten anything out of it. I developed most of my technique to a high level early on in my playing, so the stuff I wish I'd paid more attention to, like ear training and theory, has been a priority for me the last several years. Over time, I've just discarded or picked up things that I feel help me play music that sounds more like the music in my head. I've never really liked super percussive alternate picking lines, so my playing runs more towards legato techniques. I only really use tapping for moving arpeggio shapes around and extending them so I don't go crazy with the EVH stuff like I used to. My experience working with other guitarists has been that the guys who don't know much about the non-technical aspects of guitar are frustrating to work with because you have to break everything down for them. Maybe that's not the case for you.

I know theory and got straight A's in my ear training course. I have more vocab than a lot of other guys at my school too just lack the chops to play like I want too but everyday I get closer to my goals of becoming a George benson mimic

>elder god tier
Fretjam guy

Post some clips if you're so good

Hey look this guy got an A in ear training but struggles to apply it because he doesnt fucking practice.

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I didn't say I was good just that I dont struggle with ear training or theory or licks as much as I do with chops which is why Troy is very helpful.

I practice a lot and don't struggle to apply it because I spend a lot of my time transcribing other people or going to jam sessions, my issue is technique right now mainly control of my left hand and synchronization

God Tier
spetre sound
Signals Music Studio

That's interesting, because I've always felt like the technical demands of jazz guitar were a little different from what I grew up learning from watching/listening to shreddy guys like Steve Vai and Eric Johnson. When I started teaching myself jazz I had to adapt my lead playing technique to some of the stylistic tropes of jazz soloing (enclosure patterns, quartal movements, altered scale-based arpeggios) but I still haven't run into anything I've found as difficult to play as, say, the string-skipping tapped Bm7add9 arpeggio during the solo break in Guthrie Govan's "Wonderful Slippery Thing". One of my favorite guitarists is Kurt Rosenwinkel and I feel like I can generally play most of his difficult lines from a technical standpoint, even if it does take me some time to break down exactly which notes he's playing.

If you like George Benson you should check out Bobby Broom's trio. Broom's obviously a Benson disciple but the minimalism of the trio setting gives his playing a lot of room to breathe and it sounds very open and free.

i'll just post this here...every aspiring guitarist should watch this.
youtube.com/watch?v=BR4S1FqHZzQ

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I can only do blue scales while noodling help me

Buncha dumbfucks
vocaroo.com/i/s0w8130WMfeS

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Jazz is as much mindless noodling as shredding. It uses so many notes it endsup not sounding like anything most of the time. Chord melody is nice for very diatonic things, but playing random notes together and calling it a chord just sounds like shit

Im just struggling to get 8th note lines at tempos past 260 with good time feel and rhythmic clarity basically. 260-270 I can do and I start to get really dirty and repetitious when you get to 280-300 or past. But yeah jazz guitar isn't super technical compared to some shred stuff, I find bird heads very hard to play on guitar tho especially ones with a lot of string skipping.

>Bm7add9
We just call that a fucking Bm9 around here.

no one does this. No one is plugging in random notes to chords, something like a 13b9 chord may sound wild to you but its not random notes.also no one just plays a million notes except tasteless players, George benson can play as tasty as he wants or shreddy and he wants youtube.com/watch?v=6EwDxk0X6xU

You must master all of your modes to get to here . But you're also going to need to take a lot of chances with your soloing.

I would choose expression over noodly showmanship any day. Fast =/= good. But Eddie decinitely has chops.

Sounds like a young George Benson

If you think jazz is mindless, it's because you don't understand it and aren't able to follow the chord/key changes. Tasteful Jazz phrasing is usually modulating with every chord change.

Spoken like someone who has literally no clue what they are talking about. Grab your Ibanez, go sit in on a cutting session and then just noodle randomly. Prepare for humiliation.

yeah when he was 8 maybe

Aaaahh yeah I still get frustrated by Donna Lee, but to be fair Parker was the Guthrie Govan of his day in terms of sheer full-speed-ahead-because-I-can playing. I'm finding that transcribing Coltrane is useful for getting new ideas under my fingers, but some of those sax lines don't translate as well to guitar and you really need to work at them. I like the rhythmic feel of horn lines, though. The whole "sheets of sound" thing definitely coheres with guitar.

>Jazz is as much mindless noodling as shredding.
Please visit your local jazz jam and apply your philosophy there. And also please record yourself definitely not getting your ass handed to you by much better players.

Donna Lee is tough yeah, I actually find Dewey Square hard to play because of all the arpeggios and I dont have cross picking technique under my fingers yet but if you do have basic cross picking down I imagine its not very hard. The bridge to Dexterity is also tough lucky its usually not played very up when I go to sessions

Lmao why would you share that. Work on your everything. Consider not playing everything with a $200 jackson through the distortion channel of a fender 15w practice amp

bass guitars are for faggots

>choose expression over noodly showmanship
>oh you didnt actually watch.
but thats just it...its utterly expressive, not very noodly. his solos are concise and move the song forward...but the tone, feel, touch and bombast are 100% expressive...just at 100mph. thats why its brilliant.

thats nuts

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btw you have any clips of you playing? Sounds like you'd be pretty good.

I'm listening to old recordings and realizing that I'm actually getting worse at guitar.

vocaroo.com/i/s09y3nODzgvi

Words you accidentally used wrong; expressive, concise, tone, feel, touch.

Lmao listen to good fast shit like Guthrie Govan, hair metal has your taste messed up.

Post your guitar and other anons will guess what you play.
Roast me first.

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but fast does not automatically mean its not good. EVH was fast but never without a purpose. Expressive is not limited to one note- To suggest EVH is not expressive in his playing is to abuse the english language. You may not relate to the expression but its clearly there.

>Guthrie Govan
hes a mime. a mimic. he does nothing for me.

>CBS headstock
>six saddles
>no shitty retard humbuckers
>one of the only two acceptable Tele finishes, those being blonde and natural
Absolutely patrician Partscaster, user.

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Kek


JUST WAIT /GG/ IM GOING TO RAP AND SOLO

this is a good thing for anyone

>words you accidentally used wrong; expressive, concise, tone, feel, touch.
fuck off. EVH's tone is legendary. His touch with harmonics ground breaking. His feel for crafting a 10 second solo genre defining. His touch extraordinary. Please take your head out of your ass before you reply.

You know what ill listen to my recording once more since you post it so much

>good fast shit like Guthrie Govan
LOL found the poser!

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you’re still too scared to post the backing track for pink suhr, huh?

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Ehh, sure.

This is some sloppy improv over a simple vamp, I was trying to work out some modal/fusion ideas so there isn't as much melodic flow as I'd like and some runs really don't go anywhere:
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Here's an old crack at that Govan lick I mentioned:
clyp.it/j20eegw1

And this is just running through some licks I like (couple years old at this point):
vocaroo.com/i/s1XkeJ5mT6pA?fbclid=IwAR1S4jarcmx3hteU3OL7H0z55EU8vBBKeutL7OFLqX3b3vXIOIsumejXcV4

Eddie not only shred but his rhytm playing is also stupid good.

You piece of shit i never did any sweep picking in that vocaroo

The collection as it stands.

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Explaining the joke makes it even funnier

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Nice sounds good, not stylistically the type of stuff I play but you def have legato chops.

Im' posting a clip of me playing a chorus on a blues practicing a pat martino lick, this is basically where Im at rn in terms of technique. vocaroo.com/i/s1e0cUFpofKx. My goal is basically to be playing killing bop guitar by the end of April

hard to believe that was 40 fucking years ago

There was a lack of a joke. You can't make a nigger joke when Goldberg and silverberg are the first characters introduced

YOU GOT A BOYFRIEND I BET HE DOESNT KISS YA

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>used wrong
>concise,

most of EVHs solos in songs - especially in the early years- are 10 seconds long or less. He was always very concise

>fast can't have feel

Centuries of european compositions disagree with you

Fast absolutely can have feel like slow can sound like, well, jcum. It's just that most guitarists are not talented musicians. They're just average fucks who practice guitar a lot. The same goes for most instruments, but guitar lacks the culture of performing the compositions of genuine greats that other instruments like violin and piano has and everyone tries to write their own masterpiece instead, so guitarists come off as less musical.

In reality, if the average pianist wanted to solo instead of play Rachmaninoff, piano would be chock full of godawful noodlng

Volume knob is in the right spot but the humbuckers ruin it.

Fucking yikes lmfao

>In reality, if the average pianist wanted to solo instead of play Rachmaninoff, piano would be chock full of godawful noodlng
lol early BBNG had a lot of obnoxious piano soloing.

i love "sacrilege" in guitars , for the simple reason that there is no fucking tradition. it was set by companies selling a mass produced product, not craftsmen arriving at perfection. it's all garbage. it's all bullshit. fuck the strat, fuck the tele, leo was one faggot who didn't even play guitar and his designs left a lot to be desired.

You know who did play guitar? Les Paul.

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oh no did another roach run across your face again?

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Fucking hell i work late tomorrow so imma be here for a while

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To accept Gibson as a quality brand is to garb yourself in a coat of hot pockets and video games and then writhe around on the ground in a supermarket while screeching and slapping yourself on the sides of your head.

Gibson is cheeto dust. Nothing more. Nothing more than a hack, a useful tool for bands to trot out to say "Hey, we're making dad rock!". I cannot wrap my head around the adulation Gibson receives, let alone the wide praise the les paul has got. The guitar trudges from note to note, leaves us no real questions or anything to think about really.

The same bullet that kills a capeshit fan will also kill the Gibson fan. They come from the same root, from the same doritos stained console. They are frauds, and as a warrior of music it's my duty to expose the fakes and the inauthentic when I see them. I will fight with crawls and teeth until the last imposter is fallen to the ground I have about as much respect for lesley paul as I do for the dogshit on my shoe. It is reddit. It is video game hot pocket. It is capeshit. It is cheeto dust.

>Often copied
>No improved or "super" version ever made it so far into the mainstream that it became a new standard
>Attempts to improve it are considered jokes and shitty guitars bought by people that can't afford one or people being endorsed by the company making the knock off and their fanboys
>The company that makes it can't even figure out how to make it better

I guess Les got it right the first time!

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>explains the joke
>still doesn’t get it
fucking jroastie lmao

Hell yeah, dude. I can definitely hear Pat's phrasing in there. Love how he'll play fucking crystal clear, bright 8th note lines and then just rip a 16th note run out of nowhere.

Fun fact: I didn't go to school for music but I played guitar throughout my teens and played lead in a few bands. When I started college, a bunch of jazz studies students in the dorm below mine found out I played and invited me to a jam session. Needless to say, I got my ass kicked and decided I had to teach myself how to jazz. When I Googled 'jazz guitar', Pat Martino was the first thing that came up that grabbed my ear and I listened to him extensively. I still go back to him from time to time even though my tastes have shifted to more modern players, and his sense of melody and technique are so unique all I can do is just listen.

Right now I'm really into Rosenwinkel, Ben Eunson, Gilad Hekselman, and Scofield.

Too bad he didn't design it

>jroastie
Stop it im trying to be a good man and this aint helping

Oof. This one is too much for the nigson fanboys

Not him but it's sad how you can't take part in the playing discussion because you're out of your element so instead you're trying to argue about shit that has nothing to do with playing guitar so someone will talk to you.

May friend may come over with his new dean tonight

Proper technique on a guitar requires a thick neck, ala Gibson and vintage fender, for appropriate thumb positioning that allows both dexterity and leverage for vibrato and chords, and a larger guitar body, such that a guitarist playing seated in the appropriate (classical) position may have good ergonomic access to the neck.

Shredders with pencil-necked small body ibeenhads, Extra Small Penises, and jacksucks have shit technique which is why they can only play widdly widdly wee and rarely stretch very far across the fretboard. Watch them play, they're fast at what they do (playing within 3 frets of their current "home" and sliding up and down) but their technique is all over. They rarely use their pinkies and almost never play a chord with more than two notes. Never. Why? Their new-age poser guitars make it difficult so it would slow them down. Bad technique, bad music.

The Gibson Les Paul - A REAL guitar for REAL guitarists.

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people just naturally gravitate towards whichever guitar reminds them of their penis

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Yeah Jcope's a loser through and through.The sooner you learn he has nothing of value to add to the conversation and start ignoring his cries for attention the better

>he literally CANT stop thinking about cocks
Kekekekekeke

Oh?

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>HEY HERES THIS GUY I DONT WANT YOU TO MENTION
>THIS IS HIS NAME DONT SAY IT

Jcope didn't say that. It's funny how you guys always think you know who's saying what.

you play indie rock don't you

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Nice man, yeah I love how clear and clean his tone is especially early pat who is super in the pocket. I like rosenwinkel and Scofield but haven't checked out the others really, Im not a huge Jim hall guy and they seem Jim hall influenced

HOLY BASED

Vitiligo?

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I HATE les pa*ls.

just ordered me on of these yesterday.
excited as shit.

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t. les poor

If you don't want to get called Jcope then stop acting like him. You're probably Trachefag. You two are two sides to the same shit coin that has nothing worth discussing

I said 6 words. Did I really trigger you that hard?

>Pean
it's too funny laughing my frickin a** off

leave edsel alone hes wheelchair bound its not like he can do much else

Can I get some more jroastie vocaroos?

you should change the pickguard to a different color

>pean
>gibshit
>ibeenhad
>extra small penis
>ruokakas
>poo reed smith
>shitcter

>Fender.

>none of my guitars made the list
>i'm in an echelon higher than /gg/ scrubs
*phew* what a relief

>I Suhr am a homosexual

Hekselman definitely is, but his technique is much cleaner. Eunson has said he's a huge fan of Metheny (who definitely borrows from Hall) but Eunson's phrasing comes more from pianists and sax players.

>he thinks everyone is his bully

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no i just ran out of brand names to make fun of

>God tier? Stevie T. of course!

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Based

you still haven't named any of my guitars

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>sold my RG550
>bought a les paul because my waifu yui
>neck is way too big
>have trouble reach the upper frets
>strings are way too floppy so it's always buzzing even though i have 10s on
>really miss the whammy bar
>keep getting thumb cramps from the huge neck
>pickups sound weak and nasally
>won't stay in tune
>some of the paint melted off on my guitar stand

Wtf you guys said it was good enough

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so do your little virgin walk and take it to a chad who knows what do do with it

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i am the chad, which is why i'm going to set it up for 13s and just leave it leaning against the couch.

lads, recommend me a good budget (

>not playing clean blues on a superstrat

grow up

This is what you deserve for liking K-On.

Strat neck on a tele just looks dumb as fuck. Roasted maple also is super fucking ugly.

Thoughts on this guitar solo?

youtube.com/watch?v=fIlg3WCX2jw&t=146

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I've been listening to it over and over for a few minutes. It's sort, but tasteful and the phrasing isn't that bad and it fits the song perfectly. It's everything a guitar solo should be.

I also kept on listening and the second one at the end was pretty good too. The song was a great composition overall. I wish more pop music was like this.

>not 10s in Eb
never gonna make it

sounds like all jpop idol shit ever

Still better than every metal song ever made

>jazz stuff isn't super technical
You're so wrong

It needs a setup and you need to learn proper technique

Pat is the biggest Hall fanboy

> try to find good fretboard diagrams
> none of them are ideal so end up editing them to add squares for root notes or scale numbers so I can learn 2 target appropriate notes

pic related, the desktop wallpaper on my second monitor.

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Les p**ls suck major BALLSACK!

> Signals Music Studio

My nigga.

God Tier:
Signals Music Studio
Jens Larsen
Rick Beato

High Tier:
Ben Eller
creativeguitarstudio

Okay tier:
Levi Clay
Jazz Guitar Scrapbook
Guthrie Trapp
WillsEasyGuitar
LickNRiff
Timothy Lerch
Rick Graham

Best Backing Tracks Tier:
NowYouShred
MyDarnJamTracks

Occasionally useful but mostly clickbait/"Buy My Guitar Super System" tier:
David Wallimann
The-Art-of-Guitar
guitarmastery
Music is Win
GuitarZoom.com/Steve Stine (he's a great teacher so his stuff is worth 'obtaining')

How the hell do you learn fast pieces by ear? The other day I tried to learn Guthrie Govan waves, learned the first two bars of the song and didn't want to come back

At what skill level can you say "i play guitar"

Depends who you want to say it to.
That dumb bitch? Strum open chords.

Not him but maybe you could slow it down and break it down. Transcribe is a pretty nifty bit of software to 'obtain'.

Maestro

You're all wasting your time and will never amount to anything.

>inb4 projection

Get fucked, losers

Look at him go!

Unironically this

> 2019
> being enslaved to time and making music to "amount to something" instead of to have fun

get a load of this soulless cretin

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Have i finally gotten fender’s approval?

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It appears that I have

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LOOK at the top of this dude head lmao

Kek

He's such a
K A K A J E E T
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Another neo-soulless guitar player

dude you're going to have so much free gear thrown at you now

Rate my punk lyrics

I can't do (anything)
I don't have time (for anything)
I sell my days (to buy more things)
But I'm too tired (to use my things)

I got a brain (buy I can't use it)
I think cool things (but I don't do them)
There's a parasite (draining my blood)
I wanna nuke (this damned world)

Chorus:
Tranny porn, tranny porn
I can't quit watching tranny porn
Tranny porn, tranny porn
Rotting and eating my broken soul

I can't speak up (for myself)
I get controlled (by my shell)
I wish I hadn't (betrayed by soul)
To satisfy (this damned world)

It rhymes doesn't it

Yeah Ive been slowing it down. It's just so much damn work

vocaroo it

what does that even mean

Can you play like this?

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verses are shit, but that chorus is fire.

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I can't come up with a melody

I wrote it with Ramones' I don't care melody in mind

How about "too late, motherfucker"?

>He wakes up thinking of me
Lmao rent free

He never even said who he was talking about. You clearly think you're a 'kakajeet', though XD

I mean, I learned it by watching GG explain how to do it himself on YouTube. If you want to learn a specific technique, it's best to see it demonstrated because if you try to learn it solely by ear you might end up doing something completely different. Nothing wrong with that, anyway, but I wanted to be able to play it exactly the way he did.

When it comes to transcribing faster pieces, I'll go about it in one of two ways:

1) listen to the part a few times and get a general sense of what's being played. So here I'm not trying to play the line note-for-note necessarily, I'm just trying to get the juicy bits down. I've been playing a while and have a good sense of what different scales and arpeggios sound like, so I can listen to something and know that "oh yeah, that's a diminished lick resolving to a minor 7 arpeggio" or "that's a chromatic enclosure on the 6 leading to a pentatonic idea" or whatever. This comes from being familiar with scales and studying other players' phrasing habits.

2) find the recording on YouTube and slow the video down. Slowing down to 50% speed doesn't affect the pitch, so you can use this as a great transcription tool. I do this when I'm trying to learn a very specific lick or solo because I want to be able to apply as much of the ideas played as possible and analyze how they are used in the context of the harmony.

Hope this helps.

Just had another idea for lyrics:

I am I
You are you
You can't tell me
What to do

You're a failed
Human being
You can't win
A single thing

Every time
You open your trap
What comes out
Is a load of crap

Punk is easy to write, it's called punk for a reason isn't it

>He
Hahahaha grow balls. It's like the only Italian genes that survived are the cuck ones.

I guarantee 100% you have a large body

Yeah I'm experienced too but learning new fast pieces is still a chore. After sitting for some minutes learning the first bit of Waves I was already tired. And it wasn't even a solo, just some ethereal scale pattern.

I find all those shitty neo-soul instagram guitarist boring. They all play the same shitty poppy riffs, an actual plague.

>Punk is easy to write, it's called punk for a reason isn't it
that aint punk, wheres the leftist message?

That's really bad.

But the Les Paul body is small, your argument doesn't make sense. I thought you were talking of hollows or semi hollows.

I hate leftists, they're degenerate, envious scum

Yeah perhaps
What about the other one?

Rate:

You love my dick
And I love your ass
You have a big clit
But for cis you pass

then your not punk

Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore when you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head

Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Fuck off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Fuck off!

If you've come to fight, get outta here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't trying to be police
If you ape the cops it ain't anarchy

>Punk ain't no religious cult
>Punk means thinking for yourself

>But it's not punk if its not leftist
>Except if you don't think the same as I think

You are fucking ILL
I want to bomb a leftist party so hard
Maybe sell them weed mixed with powder

punk is about acceptance of all people.

Yeah I see

Accept my boot, bitch.

Punk is about peepee weewee kaka poopoo.

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The punk movement was financed by subversive Jewish record companies

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Whats a cool sound you can get with multiple delays?

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Slapback mixed with regular delay is what I can think of

turning them off and not joining a U2 cover band

I play classical guitar, I've a got a set of about 20 pieces I can play, from sheet(It's not a recital, I'm not memorizing it), that include songs from the early 20th century(Ragtime/Blues), Jazz Standards arranged for solo guitar, Tommy Emmanuel Arrangements etc.
There are some pieces I can double the length on without offending someone due to audience unfamiliarity etc. in all it's about an hour's worth of material when played straight through.
How many more pieces do I need to satisfy a gig that's 2 hours? How about 3 hours?

Pic related is a piece I actually do have memorized since there's no way to sight read all 12 pages.

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The sound of electric guitar with multiple delays

Another 20 pieces according to mathematics.

>been practicing 3 notes per string scales for a few days
>don't even know what the point of this is

this was a mistake.

Did that Oud player post anything?

Lol dumbass

I'm allotting time for one break.
There's also a small amount of time in between each piece(30 seconds?), plus any songs the audience would be unfamiliar with(maybe 3-4 pieces), I'd like to give a short history of who wrote it and why.

For those of you who do gig, what do you typically charge?
For wedding ceremonies I charge $250 and an additional $150 for Cocktail Hour if desired. $50 for arrangements/request songs not in my repertoire.

Who the hell pays a nerd to play Acoustic pieces without singing

Do you know of any stores that sell cheap third party pick guards, knobs and pickup covers?

you're just not very good, are you.

Feels good to sleep in.

Who the hell plays bog standard covers?
Have some academic integrity and present music to people in a way they haven't heard before. That shit you hear on the rock/country/old pop radio is pitifully easy and any untrained year 3 guitarist can play that.

Why did you cut out the rest of my sentence there buddy? Anyway I know you need a lot of technical control of the instrument to play jazz well numbnuts that’s my whole point, I don’t have the chops to play how I want too. was just saying that maybe competed to some shredder stuff it’s not as technical since it’s not quite as fast.

Just bouth this yesterday and waiting for it to get here.
Am i going to love it or hate it ?
My 1st strat so im clueless about them.
I paid $1200 in like new condition with case.

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a $2000 strat plays the same as a $600 dollar strat

Not bad user. Personally im not a fan of the noiseless pickuos and dont like the sounds the s1 switching system does but you might. For 1200 you would be dumb not to get it. Congrats

The amount of effort that goes into ensuring a jazz solo is interesting is staggering.
Imagine you have a very basic vi-ii-V-I chord progression.
Am7 is made up of A, C, E, G.
Dm7 is D, F, A, C.
G7 is G, B, D, F.
CMaj7 is C, E, G, B.
One example:
For Am7, it's functioning as our vi, but if we pretended that for that chord we were using it as our i chord(relative minor to C Major), then it opens up G#(leading tone, featured in Harmonic minor) as an option in addition to the notes in C major/A minor.
You could also pretend that we're in the key of F major, Am7 is our diatonic iii in F major, this gives us the ability to use Bb.
Am7 also functions in the key G Major/E minor as our ii Chord, this allows us access to F#. We could also use the leading tone to E minor, D# (found in Harmonic minor).

It's a very complicated way of playing music, but there's so much you can do. The non-diatonic notes serve to create tension and we can resolve it by returning to a diatonic note in the chord we're playing over.

i bought it because it has a compound fretboard radius and nut width like a les paul. thats the only strat that has that from what i understand, thats the only reason i bought it.

a $600 strat plays the same as a $200 dumpster find

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sg > les paul
telecaster poo old man guitar is poo

stfu faggot

And all of that is calculated in real time, I suppose?

You ok there retard?

tell Brad Paisley that the tele is shit as hes shredding on it like a boss. dont believe it, google it.

sg > tele >>>>>> lez poo

Not to mention john 5

It can be for sure.
I'm too slow to do it, but the best jazz players out there can definitely do this stuff in their head, because when you practice something enough you can do it without really thinking about it.

Le old kaka man

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I make 6 figures, you're just a faggot.

What are some of the more essential pedals to have? Need at least one good overdrive or boost pedal to match the mudbucker pickups for my SG bass.

NAILED IT.
John 5 shredding on a hello kitty junk guitar is the real fucking deal.

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this sounds COOL AS FUCK
Keyztone EXchanger pedal
backordered till november
expensive but HOLY FUCK...
Youtube that shit
10 guitars from the one in your hands ? maybe...

What kind of insufferable sperg are you

counting the zeros after the decimal point doesn't count poorfag

im not. wtf is your problem ?
theres always a closed minded asshat in the crowd

>makes six figures
>can't afford more than $600 in gear
Either you're lying or your wife has you firmly by the nuts.

kek

>DUDE im totally not A SPERg
>i just TYPE LIKE this because im retarded.
You play bass so i guess its understandable

Pretty sure hes a fag so he probably has a teacup poodle he calls his boo

"Blues was made for Chuckin and Jivin"
-----Edsel presley 2019

He's a kakajeet from the kakavela

It kinda sucks that modern guitar learning is so homogenized.

Its just you thats homo

Go slow and learn a few bars at a time. Don't learn them like you're memorizing a phone book. Actually learn what notes you're playing and how they relate to the chord being played or implied underneath.

alright so if i like to play clean and fingerstyle, what kind of electric guitar type would you reccomend? Should i just try a bunch of shit out and see what works for me?

Looks dope. I was thinking more like the common guitarist adliage of if you got a Fender add a Tube Screamer or P90 pickups + Treble booster. I'm playing my SG bass through a Fender Bassman amp and was trying to see if there was a pedal that can supercharge that Bassman into a JTM45 tone. On a last thread they recommend a keeley el rey dorado. Might cop it just would like to know if it sound good on bass and what pedals it stacks with. Right now my only pedals are a tuner, catalinbread sft and mxr bass octave. Looking for can overdrive that'll sound good through mudbucker pickups and stacked with my sft.

Punk is about webm related.

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>make a troll post
>wasnt even the original $600 guy
>make Yea Forums gearhead fags seethe
lmao

Yes, Honey. Yeah ok Dear. I'll stop looking at American guitars on the internet. The new carpets and cabinets are already ordered. You want a new phone too? but we're still paying for the old one! Fine Jamal can come over. I have to go practice my pentatonic scales, I'll try not to bother you guys. It WILL be quiet. THATS WHY WE BOUGHT THE KATANA

Nice sunfaces, which do you like better between the two?

Oh so youre poor too anyways lmfao

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>the point of this
youtu.be/W3loHqY4Ls8

>huurr durr
t. poorfag

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>Should i just try a bunch of shit out and see what works for me?

Yeah, my favorite for clean fingerstyle on electric are strats.

NOOOOOOO DON'T QUESTION MY OVERPRICED PURCHASE YOU NEED TO SPEND OVER $1000 ON GEAR TO BE A MUSICIAN NOOOOOOO YOU'RE POOR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I know you're just making a funny joke at my expense but I'm serious: Everybody in the modern world is learning from the same sources instead of bringing something localized, regional, and unique.

My bass and electric guitar were both $500 each and I've gotten more gigs than half the people in this thread.

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>hey guys I make doctor/lawyer income
actually is a poorfag
gets called out for being a poorfag
>haha see got you, I'm le smart troll

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NOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE POOR YOU DONT HAVE ANY MONEY I SPEND OVER 1K ON MY GEAR IN ORDER TO MASK MY SHITTY MUSICIANSHIP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Don't mind me. Just being the best overdrive pedal on the market.

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I make money on my gear, stupid. Your trolling attempts pale in comparison to anime posters and RHCP fans.

I dunno man. Xotic SL Drive and this guy seem pretty beast.

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that's a JHS Bonsai though?

Yes.

Redpill me on the SG HP, is it just thinner than the standard with hotter pickups?

dude unless you like necks / fretboards / nuts as wide as I-75 id steer clear of ANY HP model. ask me how i know

This is truth. Even the most experienced jazz musicians work out new technical or harmonic ideas extensively before they start using them in jam sessions or on recordings, to "get the sound under their fingers" so it sounds as natural as possible.

Everything in jazz soloing can be broken down into tension/resolution dynamics, and being able to manipulate those dynamics to create interest over changes takes a lot of theory, ear training, and practice. I like working on modal jazz progressions because it can be challenging to create interesting, original-sounding lines over static key centers, and the ability to do so carries over into rock guitar lead playing really well.

They do all that work in the practice room and then use their learned intuition and their ear to guide them during an actual real-time improvisation.

Thinking about getting this Epiphone Explorer Goth. Good or..?
I'm going to replace the pickups though.

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Flat is okay, currently used to the wizard3 neck on my RG which was a 15.75in radius and 1.69in nut. The 2018 SGhp spec page lists its radius as 12 and nut at 1.745

Very embarrassing

You're going to feel like you paid $600 too much but those spoke wheel truss rod nuts are handy

Strats don't get better with money spent unless you stop buying from fender

i can tell you that 1.745 zero fret width feels like its as wide as a 2x4. id suggest going to the nearewst GC or SA and seeing if they have one that you can try. ive had 2 of them and returned them both. the 2nd one i returned, the guitar tech said " i knew you would hate it ". but everyone is different.

Learn to read dawg
Hp is a meme
Just get a dave mustaine dean. Top notch qc

i agree that a squire can be made every bit as good as a american standard. i just needed that compound radius and wide nut or i would have never bought it. i would have bought a higher end squire and upgraded it.

Closest dealer to me would be a state over, I'll think I'll pass on it

>needed

no you didn't

people better than you played with completely random nut widths that varied from guitar to guitar and never specified a fretboard radius other than "fender" or "gibson"

you may be fine with it but for me that 55 thousands difference from a regular les paul felt like 500 thousands. seriously, you need to play one. you may think its the shit.

thanks for the slam asshat.
just about everyone is better than me and im not ashamed or embarrassed to admit it.
yes i did " need it " for my abilities.
now go fuck yourself.

this should be in the smithsonian. its an incredible piece of history

>$2000 guitar from fender
>One piece of maple polished by mexicans
>Two pieces of alder polished and painted by mexicans, sometimes one.

>$1000 guitar from fender
>One piece of maple polished by mexicans
>Two pieces of alder polished and painted by mexicans, sometimes one.

>$500 guitar from fender
>One piece of maple polished by mexicans
>Two pieces of alder polished and painted by mexicans, sometimes one.

So they just charge you a shitload to include better tuners, a nicer nut, a higher quality bridge, and different pickups, do a fret dress, and include a $5 wiring mod.

Where's the carbon fiber neck reinforcements? Where's the quartersawn wood? Where are the 6A flame maple tops? Where are the nitro finishes? How do they get away with charging as much as a PRS S2 for something that's just a MIM strat with $350 worth of turd polishing?

lmao poorfag mad he cant buy expensive things! go play your shitty trash instrument bucky one string. real musicians suych as myself have invested over 3k into their craft and it shows

>i spent $90,000 on a honda civic because i'm a real driver.

>....why? -sent from my mclaren

lmao sheep mad he got ripped when he bought from the most popular brand

the longer a brand stays popular the more they try and rip people off because they can get away with it

shoulda bought a kiesel

Retard. Buy one of each and sand them to the wood and post results.

Lies and slander

Fender allows 1-3 pieces on MIA and up to 7 pieces on an MIM. Squier bodies look like gym floors. They use veneers to hide it on bursts.

gibson does this too with 2 piece backs on les paul standards

Wow I'm really glad I spent $1500 more on fucking wood.

truth right there

>the truth is even worse

i'm a PRS customer now

fuck paying $1800 for a scrap wood gutiar

>boomer sees the veneer, thinks its one piece of wood
>hmmm, yep, listen to that RESONANCE!
>and the grain is parallel to the strings, that's how you get all this sustain
>made in america can't be beat

Did you know the 3 piece necks on ESP neck-thrus are partially maple plywood in the body area to add thickness? Only the top part of the neck is continuous wood.

Heard some fucking boomer talking about picks he likes swearing up and down that he'd never touch "Pick Brand X". This guy hasn't ever studied at any school, he has never gone anywhere with his playing, he fucking runs sound for other bands.

maybe he's so bad that he can only play with one pick or else he misses strings

He's a Dad'sUncurablejeet from the Dad'sUncurablevela

>For Am7, it's functioning as our vi, but if we pretended that for that chord we were using it as our i chord(relative minor to C Major), then it opens up G#(leading tone, featured in Harmonic minor) as an option in addition to the notes in C major/A minor.
Big fucking deal. Theory obsessed nerds are so pathetic trying to overcomplicate things and give complicated expansions to simple outside notes just to feel like they understood something relevant in their pathetic lives.

>playing a solo in C
>play a G G# A C lick
>theoryfag starts ranting

>soloing in Am
>play D D# D C sliding to the blue note
>theoryfag goes did you know why we can play that b5 note? It's because that note is borrowed from the inverted relative mode and this and that
Get a fucking clue

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what sucks is the real world resale value on PRS. buy used and save a shit ton

>This guy hasn't ever studied at any school
like that makes any fucking difference... not

>rent free

t. that boomer

If you don't, you end up like this guy
(clueless)

That's what I figured. Nicely worded.

It's like this with all the so-called high end guitars. The moment the cashier prints the first receipt, it assumes its real value, which is $500-$1000 lower.

You'll keep sucking because of that

Faggy richfags never fail to amaze me

And here I sit with my upgraded Condors laughing at those who buy expensive Fenders

those mods were more like sidegrades

fenders aren't expensive

Some are

they are expensive for how little you get.

>Fender allows 1-3 pieces on MIA and up to 7 pieces on an MIM. Squier bodies look like gym floors. They use veneers to hide it on bursts.
Not true. The liar is you.
After I sanded my $50 entry level Condor strat for the headless project, I can see 7 pieces of basswood. The cheapest Indonesian guitar is made of real wood.
How can MIM Fender and Squiers be worse?

It's not just wood brah, its tone wood

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and insulting little liberal faggots never cease to amaze me how asshat they are.
im not rich. im poor fag

Go jerk of to your useless theories and fuck off earlet

>I'm so scared of playing outside notes that I haven't read a justification before
NOW THIS IS TRUE C'MON EVERYBODY Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS

On the other hand a Les Paul is a great value for how much you get

lol clueless

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>you're a liar because i can't believe it

they use american hardwood, that alone makes it more expensive. and they're jews.

Wanting to learn classical/fingerstyle. Is a steel string OK or should I look for a nylon string? Budget is

Turbo brainlet.

>90202119
Lol earlet

>he's so mad he won't even reply

Got em!

I teach guitar and largely play classical/solo jazz for myself.
I recommend a Nylon String because it's easier for me to teach proper right hand technique on.
In the early stages of learning, students will have right hand fingers that move away from strings they're assigned to after strinking(imagine High Knee's in Marching Band), their whole hand will "trampouline" with every strike, etc. These inefficiencies are difficult enough to eliminate without adding the need to strike harder against higher-tension steel strings.

I obviously can't tell all my classical students to buy a different guitar, and don't, but it can be an added layer of difficulty.

>50's model
>progressive guitar
If it's not 'muh hurrutudg' for once it's 'muh ruvvulooton' I hate marketing assholes so much

>90202144
>he thinks he's winning
lmao

>hueman bean

>immediately says the first guitar is the best
>fellates it the entire video
>practically every other sentence out of his mouth is about how great the first guitar was
>it was a Chapman
Prove to me this wasn't scripted as fuck.

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Exactly. My main guitar is a 2001 MIM strat with maple neck, swapped out the single coils for a Duncan 59 and upgraded to fender locking tuners. I have way more expensive guitars but trhat one is my favorite.

Nah I don't really care about you or what you think

is there a drop in loaded pick guard that would do away with the s1 button bullshit with better pups ? im pretty sure the body is routed for sss or hss.

i'll samefag and say thats a hard NO unfortunately. just talked to stratosphere and they said there is no drop in loaded stuff because of the elite is not compatible with standard stuff. go fucking figure.

How to wire strat so that the middle pickup is a dummy coil and the other two function like in a Tele?

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opinions on the Texas Special pups ?

Don't connect it to the switch?

Buy a tele?

who cares?

Thank you, /gg/

>he thinks guitar playing is a competition

annnnnndd thats all bullshit. pre fender the only difference between a standard strat pick guard and the elite pick guard is the notch for the truss rod wheel. hell that can be notched by hand easily. problem solved. apparently nuttin but fuckwits working at stratosphere