This came out in 1972

The vocal melody is parodying How Do You Sleep?

The parody song may have invented rapping, but the real Beatles actually did invent lo-fi hip-hop beats.
youtu.be/Z1ONJQLdZrk

We are not talking about Hip Hop here, but Rap. You are the first paper to ever say Hip-Hop here.

Rap isn't a genre.

Correct. It's a vocal style, which the person in the Beatles parody song is clearly doing.

I know? Who said it was?

It's a vocal technique that involves rhythmic speech with rhymes over a beat. Saying that something may have been the first Rap song is like saying that something may have been the first scat-singing song. Nothing wrong with it.

The vocal style comes from 14th century flyting. It wasn't invented by any rock group or anyone in the 20th century.

Then this isn't the first Rap song.
See: Dylan

OP here. I didn't say it was a genre. I said that this person was rapping in 1972 and they clearly were. It even has that fast angry staccato flow that Eminem uses all the time.

>Eminem
Is this the only rapper you've ever heard?

Because this is like the third time you've mentioned him

This sounds much closer to modern rap than Subterranean Homesick Blues, and I love that song.

>modern rap
Nice goalpost shifting

Not all rap

I listen to plenty of rappers. It just really sounds like his flow. I can almost picture him singing it.

If you played both of these to a kid on the streets and asked them which one sounds like rap, they would pick this one. I love Subterranean Homesick Blues, but calling it rap is a stretch.

>full of profanity and disses other musicians

Incorrect. Flyting isn't Rap. It's just an exchange of insults, that doesn't necessarily involve a beat. It's like sanankuya. The reason people compare it to Rap is because of the similarity with Rap Battles.

A better comparison would be with European bard traditions such as Skaldekvad, or African griot traditions such as Taasu

Also it didn't "come" from it. It's one of the first instance but Rappers in NYC didn't discover Rapping by listening to European bards or African griots. They discovered Rap by going to Jamaican sound systems and hearing Jamaican DJs "toast" over beats. This is the origin of the "MCing" tradition

Early MCs however, much like their European and African bard predecessors, didn't have any flow, and didn't rhyme a lot

This is where DJ Hollywood enters the party
>Hollywood had been DJing since 1972, and like every MC, he "rhythm talked." And like radio DJs, he usually pattered sequences of one or two bar rhymes.
>In 1975, Hollywood would make his greatest contribution, when he adapted the lyrics of Isaac Hayes's "Good Love 6-9969" to the breakdown part of MFSB's "Love is the Message," which made Hollywood into an instant sensation. Hollywood did something new; he rhymed syncopated to the beat of an existing record uninterruptedly for nearly a minute. In effect, he connected the various short MC rhymes/patters into one continuous rhyme, introducing "flow" and giving birth to what would become known as the "Hip Hop" style. What did Hollywood actually do? He created "flow." Before then, all MCs rhymed based on radio DJs. This usually consisted of short patters that were disconnect thematically; they were separate unto themselves. But by using song lyrics, Hollywood had an inherent flow and theme to his rhyme. This was the game changer

And Rap music came to be. All because of interactions between Jamaicans, Black Americans, DJs, MCs etc... in New York City. Later Rakim would again influence the concept of Rap flow and push it forward

You’re both wrong. It’s a pastiche of the Plastic Ono Band album, it’s not parodying a specific song

>that doesn't necessarily involve a beat
And here I mean beat in the musical sense btw, not the poetic sense. Something like is closer to Rap than flyting because it's in a musical context and over a beat. If we were to consider flyting Rap, then almost all of poetry would be Rap. This isn't the case.

And of course there is the Jamaican connection too, although it's in a chanting style and a bit more sung that Rap, but it's where the concept of "MCing" over a looped beat came from and was imported to NYC.
youtube.com/watch?v=2Apvga3w1wA

The influence of Jamaicans on Hip Hop is highly overlooked. Without them a lot of its elements would be completely different, or not exist at all.

I haven't listened to this in ages. Gonna look for a DL...