Alright guys what are your thoughts on classical music?

It's a fucking waste. People with 'high IQs' are the absolute scum! All they do is brag about how smart they are. It's not like they utilize their so called intelligence.

>Wrong!

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What do you define as IQ?
In this context, do you mean musical intelligence?
Sorry, but no. Classical music is very much not highly intelligent musically.

Classical music is just arpeggios with key modulations sometimes.

>most valid
nah lol

Jazz also does this sometimes.
Classical music to me, has barely any distinctly unique or truly classic works in my opinion.

Do you mean classical era or just classical music in general? Since Gillespie and Parker and all those figures came around, jazz became an extremely complex genre of music. The 60s are my favourite decade mainly because of the avant-jazz that was going on then.

Its valid but not everything its a good metric but doesnt take into account imagination

the Classical period proper within the common practice era - and even to a degree, when compared to preclassical and modern composition - is boring as fuck.
Renaissance & Baroque aren't my jam, but I can appreciate the sheer amount of innovation and exploration going on then.
Beethoven ushered in the romantic period that took orchestras to their extremes in exploring texture and pathos.
And in between them, you have Mozart, technically brilliant but completely and utterly fucking BORING. It's just all too pleasant and perfect. There's nothing challenging about it.

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Calling classical music boring is the most obvious sing of a fucking pleb who just puts on music in the background. Actually listen to the music.

suck my dick

Agreed, only I hold baroque and renaissance in much higher regards.

nice textbook answer, now go and listen to Haydn and Mozart quartets and come back later

people with high IQ are more imaginative. for example IQ is highly correlated with numbers of patents filed, which means that people with high IQ come up with more ideas that they patent. that's the closest we can come to measuring imagination.

A lot of classical music sucks. Thankfully, we mostly remember the good stuff and there's a lot of it since it represents centuries of music.

They are more intelligent metalhead, sry for you

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Classical music that is all instrumental = god tier. Classical music that has vocals or opera bullshit = dumpster fire tier

What does this even mean?

listen to this and tell me it's shit
youtube.com/watch?v=GMmMncreE90

imagine being this much of a pleb

Potion master music. Too strong for weak knights.

boring white ppl music

To be quite honest dudemang, I don't have much patience for most pieces, especially the really long, orchestrated ones. Though, as an instrumentist, I really love other shorter pieces, like the Première Gymnopedie - Satie, Berceuse sur le nom di Gabriel Flaure - Ravel, and pieces for piano and guitar by Villa-Lobos.
I think in the end that my brainlet brain need compositions with a mor evident central idea (licks, phrases, motifs...)

>dudemang
We don't appreciate your ``people'' here.

it's pretty cool
i don't know that many pieces, but i like schubert

>dudemang
alright famalam

Our music is not for you.

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i really like it but i don't know where to start and all classic i listen to is some mainstream stuff by mozart, beethoven, bach or vivaldi

read an analysis of any common period piece sometime and come back afterwards

I think the Mozart piano concertos are really accessible and the scope of emotion and beauty is enormous while keeping a very strict form that you will notice when listening to them. Start with 20, 21, 23, 24 or 18 and then listen to them as you want. They are "mainstream" for good reasons. After you're kinda done with Mozart/Bach autism you can enter into romantic stuff like Schumann, Mendelssohn, Schubert or go the Beethoven fanclub route with Wagner, Brahms, etc.

Motherfucker tell me this Mozart is boring:
youtube.com/watch?v=G7N6L9v007w
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>Motherfucker tell me this Mozart is boring
okay, it's not boring, but I still don't like it. Personal taste. I've just always switched off listening to Mozart. doesn't do it for me.

here is some very accessible classical music
youtube.com/watch?v=CvFH_6DNRCY

youtube.com/watch?v=-gDinVAmtA0

youtube.com/watch?v=QxHkLdQy5f0

youtube.com/watch?v=RyCmm7m2mwo

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youtube.com/watch?v=MZ2J1eFM-Rs

Mozart isnt easy for plebs desu it requires refined taste

>Mozart isnt easy for plebs desu it requires refined taste
Everyone thinks I'm a pleb, or that I don't actively listen to music, and that's why I don't appreciate Mozart.
Like damn, I've been listening to classical music before I was even born, and I absolutely listen to it actively, and my mum definitely put Mozart on as much as the rest, I just prefer Beethoven, Smetana, Grieg, Verdi, Scharwenka, Strauss, Tchaikovsky, Balakirev etc etc.
Mozart just isn't my fuckin jam, get over it.

you dont get Mozart

racist back to /pol/

Pleb.

Lay off the 18th century equivalent of Jacob Collier and Adam Neely. There's nothing more to "get" than how one appreciates how music sounds. I don't like listening to Mozart, don't tell me I have to be some virgin pseud and appreciate the technicality of music I don't like.

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>Tell me this ain't boring
It's not bad by any standards, but when you listen to it, it's so uninteresting and boring, sounds like some music played at a church.

take a listen to these

listen to this and tell me its boring

youtube.com/watch?v=DsUWFVKJwBM

youtu.be/4d8yqHAPh4M?t=12

youtube.com/watch?v=3m2cPvXXR_k

youtube.com/watch?v=lw-_Wmm8IUs

A massive pain in the ass to listen to casually because there is no definitive recording of most pieces.

If I want to listen to Dance of the Knights on YouTube there are a thousand different recordings and I have no idea which is the best. This is a problem.

its in classical style so its like looking at a perfectly crafted painting or architecture from that time

>Piano Concerto No.24
>Don Giovanni
these two sound a lot more promising and I'll give them a proper listen through later today.
Ave verum corpus is an edge case, it's nice enough, but I still wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it.
The string quintet is very exemplary of the kind of Classical/Mozart that does nothing for me.

>I have no idea which is the best.
a) discovering recorded versions you personally like is part of the joy of exploring classical pieces
b) ask for recs

I kinda feel like the pop and rock recording industry has brainwashed entire generations of people to equate music with "a definitive studio recording". Classical music exists on paper first, and then in the performance hall. The truly great piece can often transcend a mediocre performance of it.

>ask for recs
Yeah I was trawling for a good version of Ma Vlast, plenty of other people had asked for recs and there were at least three strongly grouped and contradictory, mutually exclusive appraisals of the available recordings.
The only way you can truly find a recorded version you'll enjoy is by listening to them all yourself and deciding yourself.
I have never, ever seen asking for recs be as counterproductive as it is when asking for a rec of a specific recording of a classical piece. It just cannot be done.

sure that conceto is what got me hooked into his concerti, the 2nd movement is so beautiful

>Mozart just isn't my fuckin jam, get over it.
fair enough

for the record, I still don't have a copy of Ma Vlast because the opinion pieces I read to try and inform myself on what to get gaslighted me into hesitating on Jakub Hrůša & Bamberger Symphoniker's performance of it.

it's also more orchestral. If you couldn't tell from the (primarily romantic) composers I listed earlier, I prefer orchestral works to solo and small ensembles.

>b) ask for recs
Okay then, what's the best recording of Dance of the Knights? And what's a mediocre one that I could compare it to?

I struggle to listen to classical music (at least from before the modern era) because I know it will never be performed exactly as the composer intended.

Orchestras are just cover bands and nobody wants to admit it.

compare any professional recording to the rendition of your local highschool's one... being able to prefer one professional recording over another demands that you know the piece very well and that you have listened to a ton of recordings of it already

>Orchestras are just cover bands and nobody wants to admit it
that comparison is not really valid... cover bands usually cover songs that work in combination with the artists' fame, charisma and marketing, also with having new and unheard sound. Orchestral music has much deeper compositions to dig from, also there's no absolute reference to what they 'cover'. The canon performance might be yet to come for any piece.

Yeah no shit. So basically what you're saying is that it doesn't matter which recording I listen to.

yes

It's like how there are half a million different versions of every Christmas song. They're all a little different and it can be fun to see how each person does Jingle Bell Rock a little differently, but at the end of the day there's usually one or two that are considered the best.

This is just stupid lmao

Based and Wagnerpilled.

Pretentious product of elitist circle jerking and artistically incestuous to the point of being irrelevant to anything outside of itself. Traditional European folk music is the true ancestor to what is relevant in the modern era and is a better representaion of western culture because it was never bankrolled and subverted by Jews under the guise of "artistic patronage".

Here's your (You), could've just asked for it.

>what do you define as IQ
It has an actual definition it isn't a subjective thing you sperglod
>do you mean musical intelligence?
Of course he doesn't that's not what IQ is
>Classical music is very much not highly intelligent musically
lmao