Is Rock actually on the verge of dying?

Hip hop is getting monotonous (due to all the trap production zoomer shit, but I don't see it dying any time soon, if ever

destroyer, the voidz, unknown mortal orchestra, U.S. girls, Ty Segall, Kurt Vile, Parquet Courts, King Gizzard, Deerhunter... the list goes on

>Whenever I go to a bar with young people that plays rock, the songs are usually 25+ years old.
Have you considered that the bars are trying to create atmospheres by playing dad rock and/or club songs? I would never consider a bar the dipstick for any musical genre's health. If we go by what's "in" at bars, you'd also think deer hunting cabinets and virtual slots hold the lion's share of the gaming market lol.

I remember dance punk and post hardcore and emo (and everything related) from the same era.

I’m nearly 30 now and don’t care nor keep up with modern popular music, so I don’t know what is going on in the music world.

I think the mid 00s were the end of rock

Glad to see that someone else is noticing this trend with noise rock

>Is rock on the verge of dying?: An article every year since 2001

It died in 2008

Well, it seems to cater to general rock fans in their 20s. They play a lot of 90s alt stuff too, it's not full blown dad tier

Hip hop is bigger than ever. And in Latin America, reggaeton (basically a shitty version of dancehall with hip hop elements) is extremely big right now with rock nowhere to be found

Sum41 and Blink182 are dadcore nowadays, gramps. A good rule of thumb is that if you wouldn't hear it on the radio, a bar won't play it. For rock, country, and pop, anyway.

Well now it's actually reality. The biggest rock releases these days are always legacy acts like Tool

Dads of 5 year olds, yes. But you prove my point entirely that new rock makes it neither to radio nor the widely listened to curated spotify and youtube playlists.

The newest band my dad likes is Silversun Pickups. But he stopped following them after like 2006, now he's a full blown Xoomer

The early 00s were the last good era of rap

The mid 00s and mid 10s were good too. Late 00s and now are trash

Rocks doing better than ever, it’s just not mainstream which is good because mainstream rock is garbage.
>Fontaine’s dc
>Iceage
>Shame
>idles
>Arctic Monkeys last album
>Black Midi
>girl band
>the chats
>ugly
>king Krule if he counts as rock
>the garden
>goat girl
>hotel lux
>Egyptian blue
>the voidz
>marching church
>sleaford mods
>sorry
>the murder capital
>squid
>warmduscher
This is all music that has come about recently.
In America I agree rock is pretty dead but in England it’s thriving, the London scene is really great to be apart of right now. All these

>Is Rock actually on the verge of dying?

In the mainstream sense, yes, most definitely. But in terms of rock music within the underground, it's much more alive now than it has ever been (in a creative sense).

The same exact thing happened with jazz music. From the 1920's up until the 1930's/40's, it was arguably the hottest genre in the US. Then its mainstream popularity started to wither in 50's, and as a result it had gone through its golden age of creativity so to speak (with Coltrane, Davis, and the whole 60's free jazz movement dominating the jazz scene).

I listened to the new rock playlist on Spotify every week for like an hour and hear nothing that I like.
Does this mean I'm a 24 year old Xoomer?

Uh, where the fuck have you been? m.youtube.com/watch?v=uQDO4j5JPAA

It's very much alive, just waiting for another big shift in how it manifests

Everyone said this exact same shit all the way through the 00s and the 00s had some of the best rock music of all time (indie rock, metal and punk all had a lot of momentum). I think there's more validity to saying this now but still not all that much. Some of my favorite rock bands of all time are the Drones, Liars and Xiu Xiu.

>An article every year since 2001
Before that. And before pic related, all the way back to when some record exec overlooked the Beatles saying no one listens to guitar music anymore.

Rock music (as defined by the guitar been the anchor instrument. Restricting rock to lead, bass, drums, vocals is unfair since Rock hasn't been defined by that parameter for over 50 years) does face some new challenges today, though. Pop/hip hop is much easier and less expensive to make than ever before with the proliferation of DAWs. And in our hyper-individualized and physically lazy society, where everyone thinks they're some super special genius, aspiring music makers would rather diddle on their laptop because they don't want bandmates "interfering with their vision" nor do they want to put the effort and practice into learning instruments.

They believe the technology has freed them from the band/instrument paradigm, but again, not everyone is a fuckin' genius and would be a better contributor as a musician to a group effort rather than the "lead visionary." Furthermore, collaboration can often push a work to unforeseen heights, because despite what you might think, you're not as smart/creative as a group working together. The problem often comes from refusing to compromise with the group, which is something that will likely be harder for people who were raised in this modern hyper-individualized, narcissistic society to achieve.

Rock will "die" because of that. Not because it's "obsolete" or "dated" music. It can and has used all the production wizardry available in any given era to explore new ground. So rock falling out of favor has more to do with social dynamics than anything else, not because it's exhausted as a form.

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Rock's popularity will depend on CHIs in my opinion
While they're not as rap obsessed as black folk, they seem to be more into rap than rock. They're the fastest growing youth demographic, which I guess matters to some extent.

>(basically a shitty version of dancehall with hip hop elements)
so wrong
>Latin America
>rock nowhere to be found
Mexico City has entered the chat

I'm not talking about Metallica coming and doing big shows. I mean rock music as a popular force in new music, which it is not. 100% of popular music right now is part of the ""urbano"" umbrella, which is 99% reggaeton

Hip-hop is big in American and the UK, and that’s pretty much it. It isn’t nearly as big anywhere else.

It’s too slow for real dance

have you seen the lineup for Corona Capital? Ceremonia?

Reggaeton is 100% dominant in the Hispanophone world and it is an extension of hip hop. The artists rap and they copy African-American fashion

For a genre that's supposed to be dead, people sure won't shut the fuck up about it.
Also nice babe in the OP pic.

>Reggaeton is 100% dominant in the Hispanophone world
Not really

yeah it means you don't go to any niche places to hear new bands or bother looking past what's spoonfed to you by a music corporation

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Look at the spotify charts

I don’t need to, I can look up the DJ charts and festival lineups

fucking based

Rock isn’t dead as long as they’re around.

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Rock isn't dead but shitty pop rock and buttrock are

Rock died with Hendrix and was buried with Bonham

>It’s too slow for real dance
maybe for you, cracka

Black people don't really dance to that 60 BPM trap shit though
Afrobeats, dancehall and non-trap hip hop seem to be their preference

There’s a time and place for that BPM, and it’s not for headlining fests, sorry

For the chillout stage, that BPM is fine. But that’s not what I want, nor do most people when they actually want to dance

>August 1991
too much attention paid to commercial phenomena and too little to the merits of real musicians

Temple of the Dog, Mother Love Bone, and Nine Inch Nails all put out excellent records before this but because none of them were as mainstream as that Nirvana record ROCK MUST BE DEAD

>dude it's too slow to dance to
I think you just can't dance period
tempo doesn't matter if you have moves and can follow rhythm
youtube.com/watch?v=_SdF9_sWPP4

>non-trap hip hop
no one's dancing to Kendrick, cracka

rock is more dormant than dead, like pretty much every other genre that was big before the 80s
most of the foundational legacy acts are functionally dead if not literally dead, so people who refer to that are right, yeah
not to mention there's a pretty big difference in tone between the xoomer stuff that people say is dead and modern indie shit

You can dance to any tempo. But people want to do dance to faster BPM for headliners.

No exception. That’s why there are often chillout stages with slower BPMs

>rog is died a bloo bloo bloo
Fucking good. No more sell out acts in my genre.

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Lol I'm not talking Kendrick you wigger
I hang out at black clubs in Brooklyn, the dancing music in general seems to he mostly Caribbean and African music

Dude’s just rapping fast. The beat is WAY too slow. You have no idea what you’re talking about

But a lot of the "modern" rock that people jerk off to is from Xoomers. Black Keys, Racenteure, Strokes, etc.

>Brooklyn
You mean Williamsburg, trust fund baby?

Your cover doesn't follow the rule of thirds

Yeah, those are CLUBS though. I’m talking about raves and EDM fests

No, the black part of Bushwick, Bed Stuy, Flatbush, etc.
Big Caribbean and AA booties everywhere

difference between created by xoomers and popularised by the xoomers
fortnite isn't created by zoomers, but it's been popularised by them, for example

>black people
>EDM
You exposed yourself, Whitie McAnglowitz

Listen to this and tell me rock is dead
youtu.be/HRJmwWJ53Tc
Those drums are amazing

Hip-hop is EDM. Holy shit, you are one clueless cracker

Yeah but Zoomers aren't the ones keeping the Black Keys afloat

Nice try, Kyle McCrackerstein

This isn't related to the thead but there's a band that sounds like this that I'm trying to remember but can't. Do you know of a band like this that has a music video where the art hoe vocalist is singing in front of a green screen that's displaying a bunch of colourful imagery?

Very good post noting both the group/individual dynamics issue and cost as a barrier of entry. I'd also argue that the financial prospects for rock musicians are probably extremely bleak now compared to 25 or even 15 years ago. This combines with the social dynamic/cost for entry aspects to depress interest in starting and more importantly maintaining a band that actually can do something interesting.

Rock has largely thrown the middle finger to the charts and went underground. Which is a good thing. You won't hear Swans or Daughters or GY!BE on a bar jukebox.

>why yes, cracker, I listen to the finest trap music at only the blackest dance clubs near Williamsburg, how could you tell?

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Pick out all the aspects of rock you find enjoyable. Then realize there's a subgenre or many subgenres that excel specifically at those aspects. Then realize there's really no reason to listen to (or make) bog-standard Rock music. Rock is dead in the same way your great grandfather is dead; sure, he left this mortal coil. But he passed his genes to a multitude of descendants. He succeeded in his biological purpose.

rock is dead deal with it you faggots

>Swans
>Daughter
>GY!BE
>underground
Holy fucking underage

>Is rock actually dying
>I can't even find any good ones
>I stumble upon generic hipster shit or terrible Greta Van Zeppelin
Nope you're just an old 30 year old boomer who isn't into the rock scene of the current generation. Not once did you mention any of the current newer bands that people actually listen to besides something as laughable as Greta Van Fleet.

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inb4 that one poster lists a bunch of shitty zoomer rock bands that suck ass

Then explain this

youtu.be/YTEscgVDnAU

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Okay whiteoid. Go to Luv Story in Bushwick if you want to see lots of cute black girls with big booty

>Is Rock actually on the verge of dying?
Nope.
How is it possible in your brain damaged head that gizzard meme wizard is hip?

What do you dislike about King Gizzard or Mild high Club

I never said they were hip, they sound great.

This

these guys have brought absolutely nothing new to the table
rock's sound is still innovating, but these dudes are not the ones doing it

Who are the ones innovating the current rock sound?

They look like cucks

nothin against king gizzard and ive never heard of the second one probs shitrock or something

The creativity of rock has submerged itself into avantgarde bm
Garage psychs like ty segall and thee oh sees are doing some experimental kraut-rockish shit but its boring
Rock is kind of hitting a revival with tool revival and some retarded rapper like that numetal version of xxxretardation or post malone trying out some shit
Also the dirt made netflix normies find out about motley crue

Are King Gizzard actually bringing anything new to the genre, though? Everything I've heard from them (which, granted, isn't much) is them doing various pastiches of older rock styles. "hey, remember psych rock?", "hey, speed metal?" etc

dude if you ask that hes gonna give you the list of shitty zoomer rock bands and claim there good music

Second one is psychedelic rock, certain people have made the claim that he's a copy cat of Mac Demarco but I don't see it.

youtu.be/jEX0r9cs5_0

youtu.be/RBiHYxZArgY

Kek, it's been dead for like 10 years

They're as innovative as Wolfmother

Also retards should notice how rock/punk energy and creativity is flowing through acts like death grips and machine girl

>Swans
>Blink 182
>Ice Age
>Nine Inch Nails

Is rock just categorized as mainstream surface level white people guitar music?

I'm pretty sure there's a lot of doom metal bands and midwest indie bands that can be thrown into the genre of "rock" if you're just some jackass that doesn't know what you're talking about.

>if you want to see lots of cute black girls with big booty
I would like to see that. Black girls are usually a lot of fun to, uh, dance with

Well whether they're going to be shitty rock bands is up for debate. I need more zoomer rock bands my age to check out anyway, talking to 30-40 year olds at a concert isn't my type of vibe.

Of course. Can you handle it, Kyle?

I'm 24, am I a zoomer or boomer?

we're late millenials

Well, Boomers are all in their 60s, so you tell me.

we're kind of in a noise renaissance right now
youtube.com/watch?v=xBU5dyv-Tjo
the more atonal stuff ain't for me but there's loads of it out there, of all flavors, still developing

well maybe because of of macs friends is in the video

What said

It's weird because we're the youngest generation to be familiar with payphones, physical music, non-smartphones, etc. but we're still young and part of a technology obsessed generation

I have a slight fear in the back of my mind that in the future, I'll be left behind in the dust like boomers have been
well, probably better than than eternally trying to stay hip like gen x

Born in '99 and I'm familiar with all that. But then again our family was poor growing up so we couldn't buy the latest electronics, our family car had a cassette player

My 01 Honda only has a casette player. My grandma was too old or cheap to get the CD player
I actually really love CDs, I was a vinygger for a while but I realized I can scratch the same itch with CDs
I have a nice phone but I do kinda think that smartphones made everyone autistic

rock is dead people need to accept that its simple and listen to their fav rock songs or move on to whatever is hip now both are fine but rock is dead

yes. its dead. its actually stupid boring to listen to when you compare it to modern hip hop/rap/dance due to the former having so few layers. not to mention the human psyche is naturally inclined to appreciate beats due to being next to a fucking heart beating for 9 months straight. couple that with the fact said beats can be made cheaply and quickly and distributed even more easily you have the faggy contrived/worn out genres of rock falling behind

One of the problems is people are too hung up on the "innovation" concept, which has become a buzzword ("innovation" really only makes sense when evaluating technology). I think too many music fans are waiting for some kind of watershed movement to happen in rock music (or any genre of music) to happen that resembles what happened in pop music from the 50s to the 70s, where we went from the basic blues and country rooted rockabilly all the way to post-punk.

And no, I don't think rap, pop, electronic, etc are "innovating" in this regard, either. As far as genre mashups and new sounds/timbres go, we've nearly reached the end. The color palette is set, so to speak. Some people then conclude, "Well, it's all been done!" I never understood that point-of-view since there's a limitless number of ways to compose something. A well composed song is "novel" by default because it's still an artist's unique take. Think of how many different songs, unique songs, that don't sound anything like each other, have been played by a single acoustic guitar. Point is, "innovation," novelty, etc doesn't strictly mean finding a "new sound." It could easily mean "composing existing sounds differently than other artists." Though, if you define that as a new sound, fair enough. But the days of something like the electric guitar or synthesizer or sampler entering the music world and turning it on its head are over, which I'm okay with. Now artists can't simply get away with novelty gimmicks.

>music isn't innovating
>innovation means a greater umbrella than people realize and it's happening everywhere
nani
I agree with your second point but doesn't it just go to show that nothing is stagnating at all

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>Pop
>Rap
>Hip-hop
>"layers"

Rapping about crack and tv over a repetitive beat as simplistic melodic phrases play over isn't particularly "layered." The rest of your post is correct, though. People are naturally inclined toward rhythm vs. melody since the former is more visceral and base. "Beats" basically bring out your inner chimp.

My Colombian metalhead gf just put her ass in my face
Was amazing

>crack
It's not 1992 anymore, boomer

it's hard to rhyme "fentanyl" and "pharmaceutical companies"

Music is innovating. Even someone whose only instrument is an acoustic guitar can "innovate." My argument is that music fans seem to primarily focused on some "new sound" novelty (as defined by an event like the invention of the synth or DAWs that can create a variety of sounds not possible with traditional instruments) rather than compositional novelty.

I see. Well, then I agree wholesale.
Even within just singular bands you'll see them branching out and trying to do things differently. (one of my faves realized they couldn't anymore and called it quits)

Does she have a stinky butthole?

IM FUCKING COOMING

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING

MY BUTTERFLY SUGAR BUBBA BABY

bubba baby sugar butterfly coooming? coom oom my lady butterfly sugar bubba baby

coom for meh? coom my lafya

all this modern rock sounds the same. boring boring boring

modern rock is fucking shite

>until people get burned on Hip-Hop
Lol
Mainstream*

>Even within just singular bands you'll see them branching out and trying to do things differently.
Yeah. And there's still countless ways to explore traditional music idioms, as well. David Eugene Edwards comes to mind as someone who is always doing interesting work with the Bluegrass/Appalachia form.

finna coom

okay so then what are some good modern rock bands anyone wanna list some?

>Rapping about crack and tv over a repetitive beat as simplistic melodic phrases play over isn't particularly "layered.

rock layers (at best):
>vocals (melody)
>lead guitar (instrumental melody)
>bass guitar (drive rhythm sometimes used melodically)
>drums (keep beat/rhythm MAYBE band will let you have a nice drum roll/solo moment in live performances for non repetitive play)
OPTIONAL LAYERS
>2nd lead guitar (to play another riff simultaneously with the lead to make song appear catchier and more complicated than it really is)
>syn beat (hey looks at us guys! we can are kinda pop-dancey! and can keep up with trends)

edm/hip hop layers
>vocals (optional in edm)
>melodic synth
>bass
>sub-bass
>ambient noise

optional layers
>counter melody
>melodic bass

so basically in rock music almost no one pays attention to the bass/drums when they are doing their job properly while edm, even instrumental, and hip hop have far more going on at once. rock music is literally music for retarded high school kids

It doesn't stink in a bad way but it has a 10/10 amazing musky heterosexual smell

Here, listen to Golden Pelicans.
youtube.com/watch?v=NgkouOglySo

did you forget about shoegaze and its offshoots so soon? that's still happening, dog

a lot of effort for a shitpost

I live in Mexico City. The best rock bands are essentially lite prog. They fetishize and imitate everything American to the point where it ruins whatever they had to begin with, which usually is little.

wow

I know slowdive came out with an album a few years ago I mostly listen to witchhouse and weird Russian electronic

Is reggaeton killing all other genres in Mexico?

>literally 1 for 1 copies of genres that have fallen out of style
mexicans everyone

>witchhouse
Why are you listening to a dead genre that only had one good band in it?

its not dead and theres many good witchhouse bands that ive found

>666
Listen to Nonagon Infinity, Polygondwanaland, Murder of the Universe or Sketches of Brunswick East. They're all pretty fresh. You may not like how their other albums aren't "innovative" but they're crazy good conceptual albums that are a pretty fun and satisfying listen. Definitely the best in rock in years.

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Oh man, you really are smoking crack if you think that's true.

okay its dead and the only well known witchhouse artist is salem

there you happy?

i think personality and story is a major factor much more now in music and rappers usually have more interesting stories since they usually come from a poor background and struggle more to achieve success.rappers content are usually very "struggle vs environment" The rappers that just make turn up rap usually fade away quickly while the rappers that have content in their music about their life ect usually build a core audience and last longer in the game.

A bunch of middles class white kids probably won't have anything to say that a lot of people(most of whom are poor) care about. A guy that was poor living in the projects will be more interesting to listen to.

hit me up with them senpai

When is the last time you've heard fucking Swans on the radio you zoomer cocksucker?

Based. I love Latina assholes

there are none im just smoking crack and imaging that there are

>I am hobo nigger
>I shoot people pow pow
>nigga bitch gimme cash
>dude drugs lmao
>interesting

I hobo nigger
I shhot da peopo
nigga bitotch gimme dad cashy for mah yamzies

oh me so high on crack

yes very interesting

there are still plenty of rock acts in Coachella
if the normies like it then it's not dead

Latina butts smell extremely good.
My best friend let me smell his Venezuelan girl's ass while she jerked me off
I came buckets

i don't care enough about rock to listen to it much so i can't really trivialize it. ill try though

>i hate my mom and dad
>dude skateboards
>my girlfriend cheated on me
>it was lonely out here in the suburbs
>boohoo i'm depressed

that's about as much as i can muster.

>im just smoking crack
Stop listening to rap, my friend.

oh I love this the abluhbluhbluh

oh im sure modern rock music its great lots of songs about skateboarding and getting dumped

its a joke, I don't even listen to much modern rap

They don't really tell any interesting stories inspired by that background, though. It mostly comes down to rapping about doing drugs, getting your dick wet, and "shootin' a nigga."

The funk/soul artists expressed those experiences much more interestingly, while actually making music that was more than a 4/4 beat and some trendy production gloss.

youtube.com/watch?v=-9poCAuYT-s

that's the problem you can sing about anything but many modern rock bands just whine in the lyrics

>They don't really tell any interesting stories inspired by that background, though. It mostly comes down to rapping about doing drugs, getting your dick wet, and "shootin' a nigga."

>The rappers that just make turn up rap usually fade away quickly while the rappers that have content in their music about their life ect usually build a core audience and last longer in the game.

not the same guy but the only albums ive listened to from king gizzard are polygondwanaland and nonagon infinity. they’re shit.

me black man me smoke crack me shoot a nigga
uh g ug huugufhuguhguhuguhh

>half pike crack pipe

You care enough to post in a rock thread. You've described pop punk which is one kind of rock that nobody will miss.

archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/90150128/#q90151392

You literally reposted your b8 post from earlier, you idiot. You think nobody would notice?

Didn't Christgau say rock should be fast and funky and Black Sabbath were bad because among other things, they were too slow/sludgy?

you're actually right. My GF is Venezuelan and her butt stink is literally perfect, better than anything I've had in my entire life. She also makes delicious food and is the best GF ever

why the fuck do people let bald so y boys and old men dictate what music they think is good? its fucking stupid

Most of the big rock acts of the past didn't get played on the radio at the supermarket. Try looking at 70s or 80s Billboard charts and see how very little Sabbath or Iron Maiden is on there.

>one asswipe in NYC can't dance to that music so nobody else can either

oh great now the thread is about womens butt stink being perfect

Rock played it's role now it's too toxic masculinity and misogynistic

>Unless you're into experimental noise rock. In that case we're in something of a golden age.
examples of this?

hasn't that daughters album been spammed at you enough

Kys

yeah but Sabbath has several super well known songs.
Iron Maiden has a big metalhead following that kept them afloat

What the fuck is a zoomer?

Almost all the new "Rock" bands that Yea Forums and Indieheads recommend are Either Folk or New Wave

So yes

rock is dead
there's only so many sounds you can make with an electric guitar
the sounds you can make with a synth/daw is limitless and we've only scratched the surface

You can make rock with synths. It's called... synth rock.

Like a great deal of culture in general, rock music is stuck in a static process of recycling old formats rather than innovating. Compare the kind of radical changes that rock went through during the 70s to now and you can see how it's exhausted itself creatively. It's not just rock music where this is happening, but it's probably where it's at its worst. Mark Fisher wrote about this process of cultural exhumation that's going on.

Electropop Hip Hop and R&B Don't seem to have this issue , they get inspired by older artists but don't make it their entire identity compared to Garage Revivalism, Greta van fleet or even the New Wave Revival

Kanye was known for bringing back 80's Hip Hop sounds but he never made it his entire style , Kendrick despite being called old school is very different from Tupac Eminem NaS, Taylor is different from Gaga who was different from Britney who was different from Madonna etc

Meanwhile nowadays Rock refuses to leave the 70's for some reason

>the sounds you can make with a synth/daw is limitless and we've only scratched the surface
Every synth producer makes the same fucking sounds, though, and guitar is quite underrated, as many experimental techniques can be used with it, and there are many pedals now that are also semi-synthesizers.

yeah, and i’m sick of hearing about that fucking album, but i’m wondering who else has released a great noise rock record recently?

>rock cover band playing their asses off
>dance floor dead except for one boomer doing moves from footloose
>band goes on break
>GET IN THERE, YEAH YEAH!
>blasting on PA, hard clipping the speakers

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Check this out. Something new from chicago.

sawbuck.bandcamp.com

this is literally the dillinger escape plan dude

Sorry to break it down to ya but rock died back in 1970

Extreme metal. That's where he innovation in rock is happening. It doesn't really work as appealing background bar music the way slower, mellower, less complex music like dad rock and hiphop do. There's really no need to create new rock music that serves that purpose, it has already been made, and why stop developing as an art form?

fuck, now I'm just sad that the dillinger escape plan is gone and I'll never see them live

The band has influences from dillenger

Don’t listen to that other guy, Daughters are literally a revival act and are hardly doing anything interesting. Listen to Uncanny Valley by Stabscotch

>the list goes on
Don't do that, you sound like a redditor

bruh, they (you?) lifted the sound wholesale, minus the technical jazzy bits
it's not bad it's just not very new

I have a book about British rock and roll, covering the highs and lows, and worrying about the death of rock and roll and the inevitable softening of the popular music scene.

It was written in 1970.

Rock still lives, it's just not mainstream anymore. Keep looking.

It died 10 years ago
Not only is rock dead but the concept of bands seems dead as well with most popular artists now almost all being solo

>conflating rock with popularity
shiggy diggy

This

dubs of truth. Extreme and abstract versions of rock that were never really popular to begin with are doing just fine

>muh wypipo
Kill yourself, you fucking faggot. Hip-hop is dead and I would never go to a club to see it

I know it can be tempting, but you guys have to resist black girls. The worst thing you can do is accidentally create another nigger that you'll be forced to clothe and feed.

This was the worst time to grow up in this shithole country. I’ll be dancing on boomer graves the day before I have my flight out of the dying and irrelavnt country of America

>tfw Ivans won the Cold War
More dead glowies is a good thing

I hope you schizoposters get the therapy you need

You never explored music after the year 2005 did you

>tfw “schizo” has been a term used by glowfags to discredit for generations

I’m happy for every CIA agent who was tortured and murdered in Russia during the Cold War. Russia won

have you ever seen a psychologist or do you think the entire movement is a psyop

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Gretta van, dirty honey (new school led/aerosmith/guns n roses)

Queens of the stone age (been around a while but man do they just keep getting better)

Raconteurs made a new album this year after 11-12 MIA years (help me stranger, only son, dont bother me, classic rock vibes with a progressive trend)
Weezer 2 years ago

Hate to bring up hobo johnson or oliver tree (more clique so personally i just classify them as alternative in general)

Its there, you just gotta look. It isnt all indie anymore and going more rock n roll (jimi hendrix, rolling stones, queen) iconic sounds.

gusic

Music as a whole should die because it has always sucked thus it's a failure.

Psychology is alright because it operates on behavioral changes, self-reflection, introspection, and mediation. Psychiatry, on the other hand, is all about "take these pills, goy" and "we'll need to cut out a small piece of your brain."

Meditation, rather.

all horrible recs

>It isn't all Indie anymore
Indie practically dominates Rock atm , meanwhile Rock doesn't even dominate Indie Music as it has been getting more and more Poptimistic

Rock is in the same position it was in the early 80's where its monopoly was broken and it was being fused with other genres(80's New Wave vs modern Indie) and only legacy acts were making money , except that it's even worse now as Hip Hop didn't become a joke unlike Disco and Pop is much bigger nowadays with Electropop/R&B/Dancehall/Trap being overwhelmingly popular, even more than MJ and Madonna were back then

disco was never a real thing dude

i sleep

Another comparison, I feel like indie rock is going to be remembered much more fondly in a couple decades. Particularly the good stuff like Gotye, fun., and early Imagine Dragons

>Mark Fisher

>Imagine Dragons
>remembred fondly
lol they are Nickelback of the 10s

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A lot of the Indie stuff will be remembered fondly because they will stand out in a sea filled with Dancehall/Watered Down EDM/Electropop/Trap . Even Imagine Dragons seem more soulful than most of the Pop Music with 1 Billion+ Views on youtube since 2015 or so

The Beths?

I think the average normie now just likes music for the artists personality. Take Lana Del Rey or Billie Eillish or Drake or anything teenage girls like. They dont actually measure it by how it sounds, they are obsessed with the personality and will take anything by them shitted down their gullet

>even more than MJ and Madonna were back then
uh, no

In what parallel universe are Sleaford Mods a rock band?

When was the last time anyone listened to radio at all lol

When they went outside

why would you listen to radio when you go outside, don't you guys have spotify or something?

Black Midi released an album in July of this year.

Sometimes you go to a bar or something, crazy right?

But bars also have spotify or other ways of playing personalised playlists.

This. But solo acts have made up the bulk of non-rock for a long time

Kys, beta stormcuck

There is no new rock band with AC/DC level of popularity like in the early 80s

Lana del Rey is such garbage, she refuses to make a song over 45 BPM

In my car. Spotify's curated playlists are worse than the radio

That's like people getting burned out on french fries and potato chips.

It's not happening. The USA is getting less and less white among the younger generation, I doubt rock will ever come back.

This

Too bad it's unlistenable

>there's people (and I use the term loosely) who listen to the radio in their car
so are you too stupid to put music on your phone to too poor for bluetooth and too stupid to burn a CD?

I feel you man. I complain that rock is dead and there is no new rock stars but whenever I listen to new rock acts I think the music is terrible.

Maybe rock was a trend just like big band and blues

Either you haven't listened to the Oh Sees (post-2015) or you have shit taste.

Not really. It's more like getting burned out on some type of synthetic food that has been around no longer than since the 1980s and lowers the fertility of non-black consumers.

This is true though. Blacks already have the cultural hegemony in the USA and soon they will be the demographic majority. At least in the USA, hiphop is likely the future.

It's objectively not, you just have the overly sensitive ears of a big baby who can only listen to calm, happy or at least relaxing lullabies.

Blacks are at no risk of "becoming a majority" in America. Demographically they're well outstripped by Hispanics. Blacks fucking love abortions.

If Blacks became the Majority , most of them would be as Black as fucking Neymar

Okay, guess it'll be dancehall then.

I make playlists or bring CDs but sometimes I just like listening to the radio. My favorite station is an AM oldies station, they actually play a wide variety of 70s music from different genres

Black population is stagnant however they are culturally

*culturally dominant
Many Hispanics copy black people REALLY hard though. Which is why there are artists like Tekashi69 and Lil Pump

That's because black culture is extremely dominant musically right now. They would tone down the black copycatting if rock were to be culturally relevant again

Do you really want Mexicans with 1/4 Black Blood thinking they can say the N word? There is already too many Cholos saying it because "Muh Minority unity"

Ghetto Mexicans with 0% black blood freely say nigga in all 50 states.
I think it's corny but they're going to keep doing it as long as black people do

Cholos in the 90s didn't copy black accents and a lot of them listened to rock music (as it was still culturally relevant). Then starting in about 2005, they ditched the cholo culture and started talking, dressing, and acting black.
I saw a video of a "Chola" from Anaheim and she sounds like a black New Yorker.

Archers of Loaf

post blackgirl2.jpg

I fucking wish I had a black gf like her
I'd have 4 mulatto kids already

idk, but that girl just saved my boner which was on the verge of dying

Based and Kweenpilled

I make good rock music with teeth that isn't left wing and is pro-Christian (but isn't lame 'Christian rock').

Nobody cares. There’s nothing special about your shit-tier culture

Do all of your songs revolve around Jeebus? If so, that is inherently lame.

It really is bad for dancing, most you'll see is bitches twerking and men swinging side to side

>cumbrains

Who's shit tier culture?

You're a fucking loser

I live in Brooklyn and there's this lounge I go to that has sooo many hot, thick black girls. I cannot stop jerking off to them

No, Maroon 5 is

New York sucks like the rest of the US

T. Okonkwo Jakubowska

Any of it. Anything American is garbage and becoming more irrelevant now more than ever

Maroon 5 is full blown pop though.
Kek, the whole world dickrides our music trends (plus Jamaica's). Tell me the last time a Euro country started anything musically relevant

>implying Okonkwo wouldn’t fit in just fine in Jew Pork

Yes but we don't deny it
Okonkwo and Pietrus are embraced here

>Kek, the whole world dickrides our music trends (plus Jamaica's). Tell me the last time a Euro country started anything musically relevant
Dumb bitch, it’s forced on everybody by the CIA. America is totally irrelavant in every music scene that isn’t trap because trap is literally Burgerland’a k-pop

You can embrace this D instead, lmao

>irrelevant
Latin America and Europe dickride America's music trends

Not anymore they don’t. They listen to totally different music

>Blacks already have the cultural hegemony in the USA and soon they will be the demographic majority
Does it hurt being as delusional as you?

No, not at all. I'm not even Christian. Most of my music is abstract. Just one album is about Christian conspiracies.

He is right about the first thing, not the 2nd.

Delete this please, it hurts

His whole world is hip-hop culture, so that’s literally how the whole world appears to him

I forgot Yea Forums is a blue-pilled Jew board full of Fantano-loving faggots like you.

Wrong. Latin America exclusively listens to reggaeton which is a mix of dancehall and hip hop.
Europe mostly listens to American music and British artists doing American music

Hip hop isn't even my favorite genre. But you're retarded if you think it's only relevant in the US

Because those examples you just mentioned are pop music (or pop rap/indie pop/whatever). It has been this way since the 60s m8. Or do you think people unironically liked the early Beatles music? Of course not, most of the fanbase consisted of teenage girls attracted to their personalities and guys attracted to their cool status as stars.

Wrong. We already had this discussion earlier in the thread. Stop repeating this lie

The UK too. It isn’t nearly as popular anywhere else. This is a fact

dude, it's possible to create you own playlists lmao
What kind of weird country do you live in where they play music from a radio channel instead of streaming or records?

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True. But I still think image is more important these days.

Yes and I don't always want to make a playlist. The radio forces me to listen to new things.
Radio mode on spotify is more garbage than FM radio

His whole world revolves around spotify. He believes Hispanic countries exclusively listen to reggaeton because that’s what’s popular on spotify, conpletely ignoring what everybody else had to say about it

If all 100 of the top songs on spotify (in every Hispanophone country) are reggaeton, then that leads me to believe nothing else is culturally relevant.
I believe that even Banda in Mexico is dying out in favor of reggaeton.

I went to a "ladcore" night the other night and on the bill were three young guitar rock bands, playing to a crowd of young people, who were really getting into it. These were bands who just had a couple of videos on YouTube but the atmosphere was great.

When I went to the Download Festival the other month there were a lot of young people in the crowd. I spotted people wearing t-shirts by IDLES, Slaves and The Chats. In the crowd for Smashing Pumpkins and Tool, two Gen Xer bands, there were people around me who couldn't have been older than 22/23 singing along to every word.

There's clearly a market for rock music among youngsters. It's, as usual, the press being out of touch with young people and assuming young people are "woke" and will reject anything associated with white men.

Just wait 2020 when me and the boys gonna start performing, we're gonna bring back it all.

Harsh noise and drone

Hip Hop needs a retro movement, the way rock has had numerous times. Ditch the boring synthesised production, go back to sampling old funk and soul songs from the 70s like they did back when the genre was great. And have the rappers actually rap instead of half mumble, half sing.

I’m telling you, that is not what the DJs play for the most part. Go look at the DJ charts and festival lineups.

Spotify is a private company and probably had a vested interested in promoting one genre over another. It is not an unbiased way to determine tastes

Rap was getting pretty good before trap production and video game sounding loops took over

Youtube as well. Only reggaeton and occasionally Latin trap (which is 10x worse) gets 1 billion youtube views in Latin America

Youtube is also a private company and its views can come from anywhere around the world. And I doubt you look at much of any genre outside reggaeton anyway as it sounds

It moved to Japan, carried by young women in particular.

Rock lost popularity because all the tesosterone was sucked out of it. The indie shit is swoy as fuck

This was done on purpose, by the way. Same thing is happening to rap now

6ix9ine was pretty popular before he got locked up/snitched and his music is hypermasculine
Even though he's a somewhat fruity Mexican with rainbow hair

ye, cause many of the biggest rockstars of the 70s and 80s were not playing at all with gender fluidity lol

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>hypermasculine
>rainbow colors in the era of LGBT oversaturation
Yeah, okay.

The mainstream media and even reddit made fun of him constantly too if you didn’t notice

including a band called "Queen" with no women in it
Featuring a flaming homosexual as the lead singer

Yeah but his music was violent and misogynistic

And that’s precisely why he was shamed by reddit and the rest of the mainstream media

Quite literally.

>tfw lower testosterone than grandpa

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I thought it was more so the rainbow hair.
I think he only stayed popular because of his internet trolling + loyal CHI fanbase

was this study conducted in Massachusetts? That's probably the basedest state not named California

Rock is too broad a genre and too loose a definition at this point to even make a diagnosis.