The only lecture series you need is Inside Chamber Music w Bruce Adolphe
Adrian Murphy
You are a handler tho. You don't play things by anchoring your thumb on a key and stretching out your hand as far as possible. This is a joke, right?
Caleb Rivera
Just train your ear, do counterpoint and part-writing exercises and you'll at least be able to make chorales, fugues and anything minimalistic. But yeah, you can't really fake romantic dynamics by penciling stuff in.
Angel Lopez
Just got back into playing piano and I got Czerny Op.599 Practical Method for Beginners In which timeframe should you finish this?
Xavier Scott
I am planning to watch all those Yale lectures since I have been lacking more self training in theory.
In any case, I just found something beautiful, an analysis of Chopin's style.
That Yale course is basic bitch as fuck. If you need it you should just lurk most.
Sebastian Phillips
I have no idea of what would be the more intense and dense equivalent of it on youtube at least. Reading books for music theory is kinda lame because concepts need to be listened to.
Cameron Evans
Seeing as it's neither of those adjectives, literally any other lecture series. Inside Chamber Music is for payment btw. You might think because it's Yale, ooooh it's all sophisticated and shit, but no. The second lecture he plays bluegrass music to explain what strong and weak beats are. I have no idea how he even has his job if that's what he does at an Ivy League school as a tenured professor
The process of learning is so individual that you can't get an accurate. It also depends, do you wanna learn every single one to the highest standard? Or learn every one until there's no more benefit for you and then move on?
Could take you a year or three depending on what do you want and whether you have a teacher or not
Jonathan Clark
>tfw short fingers if I grow my nails long enough, will that be enough?
Brandon Wright
Had a teacher when I was younger. I need to practice my sight reading and technical skills. Just did the first 12 exercises of the book and I think I'll go until exercises 40 or 50. After that maybe a sonatina or something from Bach's Well tempered Clavier?
Sebastian Hernandez
Get a good teacher, it's the most efficient way possible. Hopefully not via skype.
Check out Clementi's and Kuhlau's sonatinas. Maybe go with Anna Magdalena's notebook and the little preludes and fughettas before the WTC? Scales are also underrated among students, sure they're boring as fuck, but you can make them interesting. For romantic repertoire start with Schumann's album for the young, maybe? Just get a teacher, they will guide you much better
Lincoln Lee
>But yeah, you can't really fake romantic dynamics by penciling stuff in. What does this even mean?
Lincoln Garcia
Scriabin couldn't even do a ninth. That's why he couldn't play his last three preludes
Jordan Nelson
That's my point. He was still a better pianist than anyone here.
Jason Myers
since he was in his mother's womb he was exposed to piano music, so it really doesn't surprise me
Ryder Sullivan
Does /classical/ ever leave their house to attend concerts? On Tuesday, I'm attending my school of music's symphony orchestra performance with a solo clarinet. I'm hoping they play Copland or Nielsen concertos. Also, whom do you take with you? I'm asking a girl out tomorrow. Wish me luck.
Sebastian Clark
Very seldom. I've been to a few concerts through the years: Bruckner 8, Mahler 2 and Ein Deutsches requiem. I also saw two operas: The Magic Flute and Parsifal.
Christopher Watson
>Does /classical/ ever leave their house to attend concerts? Every time I can, but since I go to the university on afternoon is hard to find something I can go. Tomorrow I'm going to a concert with pieces of Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven. The 30 I'm going to another with Schumann's Piano concerto and Tchaikovsky Symphony No.6 >Also, whom do you take with you? I always go alone, nobody wants to go with me
Like twice a year, last time I went to Krystian Zimerman which was amazing. In januari i'll be going to the Rite of Spring and Brittens cello concerto conducted by Jaap van Zweden with the RCO (was a birthday gift to me)
>Check out Clementi's and Kuhlau's sonatinas Thanks, I'll learn sonatina op 36 after I finish Czerny's Op. 599. I really like practicing scales and arpeggios, so that's not a problem for me.
Tyler Nguyen
bring some energy drinks
Levi Green
i want to fuck the shit out of one of those girls who learn chopin preludes with synthesia and comment on youtube
I wish my school of music played Mahler 2. The director is the quintessential "romantic bad" fanatic so we don't get much from that era.
Wow, that's a pretty busy week. What uni? Mine doesn't have concerts this frequently.
Very nice. What did Zimmerman play?
Godspeed. I think it's impossible to find a weekend long staging of the four plays in USA, let alone Kansas.
What concert has that many pieces?
Alexander Ward
I have season tickets to Utah Symphony. And I don't take anyone, no on wants to go.
Luke Hall
How the fuck do you ask a girl out to classical concerts? Follow up: how much is your partner preference influenced by her gusic taste? Would you date someone that positively avoids classical music?
Anthony Ramirez
>The director is the quintessential "romantic bad" fanatic Damn you're lucky
Parker Howard
post link
Nicholas Adams
>6/16 Fugue youtu.be/XAmAfCmxoZI This guy was into something, shame he died so young
Hey faggotos I already have my favorite WTCs on piano, but does anyone have a full/extensive discography list of the recordings on Harpsichord and whether they use equal temperament/meantone etc.? I'd be very grateful
Colton Cruz
I have a similar arrangement at Miller Outdoor Theatre in Houston, TX. The Houston Symphony Orchestra plays there ever summer for free. This summer they had some good pieces, notably: >Grieg Piano Concerto >Sibelius Karelia >Strauss Don Juan >Dvorak Aus der neuer welt >Beethoven 5th >Rachmaninov Symphonic Dances
For instance, Schoenberg seems to have originally thought that musical form alone would make a piece intelligible, but he later, and more famously, established his 12-tone style so that his music was understandable moment-to-moment.
Oliver Edwards
>who Wyschnegradsky >moment-to-moment interesting
Dominic Rodriguez
youtube.com/watch?v=B9WPfkXQa_Y Wyschnegradsky considered quarter-tonal divisions of pitch to be a natural evolution of Western practice. As we would expect then, the work above follows the conventions of the prelude.
Question, Yea Forums. Alto as a solo voice type is not really a thing, right? The correct term is contralto, and altos are a vocal section in choral music.
Oh wow, a "restored sound" video that doesn't have god awful reverb.
Gavin Torres
Sorry user, uploading images of the sheet music here is misbehaving.
Chase Jenkins
Who else here exclusively listens to classical music? I been doing this for the past 2 or 3 years.
I don't advertise that I listen to classical music. In fact, I don't tell anyone that I only listen to classical music; I usually say I just listen to charting music. But, in relationships, when talking to women, I am honest that I exclusively listen to classical music. I have noticed that this puts women off, slightly. They giggle, think I'm joking, give a stray look, or just say they think it is weird. I tell them this about a week into dating. I am not a person that pretends to be an "intellectual" by listening to classical music. And women I talk to are aware that I don't listen to classical music to appear smart but rather because I like it.
I am not asking for dating advice. I realize that this matter is trivial. I would like to know, why do Americans and Canadians have a stigma against classical music. Is classical music more popular in Europe?
Elijah Robinson
I'd guess most of us here only listen to classical. I rarely listen to other stuff as background noise but I don't consider it "listening" to music because I don't pay nearly as much attention
Connor Murphy
The Americas are especially prone to a dislike of classical music: partly for its perceived elitism, chiefly for its rejection of American popular music. When you say, 'I listen to classical music,' in a sense you are saying 'I am different from you.' As well, the various rituals and apparent elitism that surround classical music intimidate a great portion of the public, and draw further attention to the cultural difference between the listener of classical and the fans of popular music.
Anthony Anderson
Most people don't listen to classical music, anywhere anymore. I'd argue it's more of a class based thing like how it used to be. If you associate with people from elite social circles who attend phil harmonics every week and art events and so on you wouldn't stand out.
But as it's already commonly known americans don't really have a classical music culture like europeans did. It's in your blood if you're a european.
>I'd guess most of us here only listen to classical. You think so? I certainly don't fall into that category but I've only been listening to majority classical/posting here the past month or so.
I think you are right, liking classical 'others' you from the general public in a seemingly intimidating/elitist way. The sad thing is like I just like the music with no pretensions, and honestly I'm probably less musically attuned than the average Yea Forums poster.
Forest murmurs, because you have to actually go soft with your voice. The death lament before the funeral march is like that too but it's not nearly as hard. Many siegfrieds, even good ones, just shout their way through the murmurs. Jerusalem and Aldenhoff actually sing them for instance (Aldenhoff does it beautifully I feel) Also the infamous high Cs in Götterdämmerung
Kevin Parker
the high C during the end of Act 2 of Gotterdammerung (Scene 4) is especially feared
i think i've heard maybe a handful of heldentenors that have managed it without crumbling, even very famous ones have mangled that exit pretty badly
Started off decent, but, yeah, your intonation needs some work. Some of your notes are a bit too slurred together as well. A bit too nervous. With some control and practice I think you'll get there.
Ayden Brooks
Scott Ross used meantone tuning Peter Watchhorn used the "Lehman Bach" tuning Robert Levin also used a weird tuning, i dont remember what was it, but it was not equal tempered, thats for sure
>Favorite Composer >Least favorite Composer >Favorite era >Least favorite era >Favorite piece >Least favorite piece >Composer you think you only know >'Popular' classical piece you love
GO
Also Scriabin haters and Scriabin apologists, disregard each other
Leo Robinson
Pet and Zold
Nathan White
>Favorite Composer Chopin, Bach >Least favorite Composer Bartok, Scriabin (not all is bad, what has a Chopin influence is pleasant to listen to) >Favorite era Romantic >Least favorite era Medieval >Favorite piece Bach's Partita for Violin No. 2 >Least favorite piece Hard to think of one I downright hate >Composer you think you only know Sergei Lyanpunov >'Popular' classical piece you love Clair de Lune, Moonlight Sonata
Josiah Kelly
What's some good solo violin stuff to listen to? Recently heard the Bach Partita No. 2 for the first time which got me interested. I'm guessing Wienawski is the next adresse, anything else that's a must?
>Favorite Composer Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann >Least favorite Composer Sorabji probably >Favorite era Early (pre-Wagner) German Romantic >Least favorite era Interwar period >Favorite piece Scope: Eroica, Winterreise, Schumann's Fantasy in C or Liszt's Faust Symphony Depth: Mozart's Sonata No. 8, Beethoven's Sonata No. 7, Schubert's F# minor Fantasy and sure Bach's D minor Partita >Least favorite piece Don't know >Composer you think you only know Hering >'Popular' classical piece you love Late Mozart symphonies, Beethoven odd numbered symphonies, Chopin Ballades
Cooper Foster
Is Vivaldi a pleb tier composer? I really enjoy his works.
Ayden Davis
Surprisingly people would consider me as an elitist but I really admire people who enjoy music from the classical-era and/or Vivaldi because I am totally unable to do so. Romantism/Late Romantism/Scriabin just sounds better to me.
Luke Cruz
>Choosing what you like based on external validation mechanisms
>tfw you can't even play a ninth properly I'm playing Clara Schumann at the moment and even she had larger hands than me apparently. I really want to play this the way it's written but I just can't.
>Favorite Composer Bach and Beethoven for their universality as composers, Scriabin for making the piano sound like the universe. >Least favorite Composer John Cage I suppose. I kind of understand it, but it's really not interesting in music form. >Favorite era Modernism (early). >Least favorite era Saying 21st century is not fair, but I also don't care for a lot of that specific nationalistic/folk influenced late romanticism, strong exceptions from this time are Bruckner, Strauss, Mahler... >Favorite piece Scriabin's 5th piano sonata; beautiful chromatic 2nd theme that a composer like Sorabji (who I like) could only dream of writing, two ecstatic climaxes and a hilarious ending. >Least favorite piece Probably some obnoxiously long and self-indulgent late romantic English symphony with choir and vocals, can't say really. >Composer you think you only know Marcel Tournier, terrific French harp composer. >'Popular' classical piece you love Any popular Bach piece. Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring (for piano specifically) for example.
Ethan Phillips
Good performers/conductors for Sibelius symphonies?
Andrew Jackson
>What concert has that many pieces? It was in Finland, just Piano, and one vocalist. I went and was delighted by the Brahms pieces. Real cool. But I háted the audience. They brought children that clearly didn't care or wanted to be there. And so they made noise and dropped shit.
>Mozart >Scriabin just because of the fags here or Chopin because all my pleb friends do is listen to him then go "yeah I'm into classical too". I've never really even heard Scriabin's music though. I don't remember the pieces I dislike >mid-late Classical >Don Giovanni >idk I don't think about this "least favorite" stuff that often. Probably some late romantic boringfest that also happens to be super popular, otherwise I don't care >Robert Ramsey, I know this because Gould said not even he knew who that was >Kleine Nacht Music, Canon in D, Fur Elise, the list goes on...
>Favorite Composer Scriabin, Bartok, Rautavaara >Least favorite Composer Plinky 20th century stuff like Xenakis, Ferneyhough. I don't like Wagner either >Favorite era 20th century >Least favorite era Romantic >Favorite piece Tough question. Maybe Scriabin 8 or Duke Bluebeard by Bartok >Least favorite piece Chopin's piano concerti, Wagners Operas. Anything romantic and meandering. All classical has redeeming qualities though. >Composer you think you only know Dusan Bogdanovic >'Popular' classical piece you love Anything Mozart or Bach. Masters of their craft
I've only heard 4 and 7 unfortunately. Is Vanska good for Sibs?
Yes, Vanska with Lahti is uniformly great. There are so many cycles recorded that everyone will have their own pick. For a single symphony, one of my favourites is the 7th by Maazel with VP.
Brandon Ramirez
Who are the top three pianists alive? For me, it's Volodos, Sokolov and [spoiler]Zimerman[/spoiler]
Scriabin 8 is god tier desu. What do you think of Vers la flamme (perfect imo as well)
Joshua Green
dad rock still when im drunk sometimes but I mostly just do classical these days. It seems like people assume you have some superiority complex when you bring it up but i just want to talk about the stuff i love :(
Jonathan Reed
It's another one of my favourites by him. Not more than 8, 7, 6, 5 but still up there. It was actually supposed to be his 11th sonata but had to be published early. The ending is really poetic and dramatic and I think it could really use a good orchestration like Nemtin's orchestration of the Poeme-Nocturne youtube.com/watch?v=iGFvFhcTbWw
The worst part is when someone who knows you're into classical makes remarks like "lol the music that's playing is probably torture for you right? it's not classical lmao" It makes you seem elitist without doing anything. I do hate a lot of popular music, mostly techno and. god help me, German rap, but I try not to show it and act superior. I just happen to like classical better, just like some other person might prefer rock or something.
Andrew Ramirez
what are your favourite baroque violin concertos? Ive heard a couple Vivaldi and bach ones that im really enjoying and id love to hear more
Jack Cooper
I blame pseuds
Ayden Miller
Errh I like piano so much. Scriabin is a master of tension and 8th is such a great demonstration. To me right now vers la flamme and 8th are ~equal in quality while being quite different in idea. Vers la flamme has got this incredible lunatic and arythmic beginning/middle part and gets ecstatic and dissolve itself at the end which is fantastic. I actually heard two different stories about it : some people said it was for his 11th sonata some people said it was meant to be orchestrated. I am curious as to whether anyone has got more informations about that. 5 is fantastic for tension as well, and the ending to 9 (while played by Horowitz particularly) is incredible. I am curious as to what do you think about 10 which is definitely up there.
Adrian Butler
>Favorite Composer Mozart >Least favorite Composer Crawford Seeger >Favorite era Romantic >Least favorite era Modern >Favorite piece Mahler Symphony No. 6 in A moll >Least favorite piece Piano Study with Mixed Accents >Composer you think you only know Taillefaire >'Popular' classical piece you love Mozart 21 and 23 Piano Concertos, Beethoven 5th
Brody Wood
>>Least favorite era >Modern >>Favorite piece >Mahler Symphony No. 6 in A moll
Fucking based I actually took a girl to that concert once and fell in love with her after the opening notes of the first movement. Now, I'm hopelessly in love with her. Thanks Beethoven! Similar pieces: Beethoven's Late String Quartets, Haydn's London Symphonies, Schubert Symphony 5.
10 is really odd but great nonetheless. The moments of consonance are so abrupt but welcome. And of course, you cant forget the trills everywhere. Truly the insect sonata
>going to a rehearsal for a recording of a string quartet i wrote later today What am I in for boys?
Nathan Scott
Handel is Beethoven but good
Zachary Phillips
They're nothing alike, you dumb female whore.
Jeremiah Gray
don't call him a female that's incredibly disrespectful
Gavin Diaz
They both strived for the same direct-hitting or "dramatically obvious" effect in music, reason why many people would call them "shallow" in comparison with the greater names of the form. Handel was also Beethoven's favorite composer (or one of) so his influence on Ludwig is obvious. Thing is Handel actually makes that style of music work, therefore he is like Beethoven, but good.
Adam Evans
probably a bunch of grumbling jaded asians or old boomers that arent interested in your piece
Jason Hernandez
I remember someone saying that Mozart has good melodies, but boring harmony. How about this?
My friend said Wagner was mid tier and posted these composers that he said were better. Is he right? How is the list
Nikolai rimsky-korsakov Edvard Greig George's Bizet Charles Valentin alkan Charles gounod Cesar franck Ernest chausten Maurice Ravel Francis poulenc Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach Johanne Sebastian Bach Johannes Brahms Antonio Vivaldi Arnold Schoenberg Igor Stravinsky Anton Rubenstein
Henry Roberts
Bach, Ravel, Brahms, and Schoenberg are better than Wagner, but the rest of that list nah
Rolling is common practice. Playing "as written" can be misleading. Schumann has some insane intervals written without an arpeggiando sign (13ths, two whole octaves)
