anybody see that Beethoven documentary that started with doctors preparing to do a DNA analysis of a preserved lock of his hair? how many times do you think they've cloned the poor bastard?
Any connection between the works of Schumann and Schoenberg is rarely discussed. Both men were, at least partly, self-taught; both had wives loved by another man; both men were misunderstood. In short, they are underrated.
>both had wives loved by another man Brahms had a fucked up youth performing in brothels and being passed around, which threw him off all romantic relations. Clara was just an idealized mother figure whose unreachability made her all the more intriguing for him.
Jayden Thomas
I had the exact same thing for a woman also called Clara
Alexander Adams
What is everyone's favorite piano concerto from a relatively unknown composer? It doesn't have to be a masterpiece, just a piece you really enjoy for some reason. For me, it's Stanford: youtu.be/nBnzxcwlNsE Reminiscint of rachmaninoff, but with his own Irish romanticism I suppose.
>Schumann and Mendelssohn tacitly addressed the applause issue by writing certain major works without movement breaks. Call it pre-emptive composing, if you will. For example, Mendelssohn explicitly asked that his "Scottish" Symphony, which debuted in 1842, be played without a break to avoid "the usual lengthy interruptions." Schumann took care of the matter in a similar way in his piano and cello concerti as well as his Fourth Symphony.
>As a respected critic of the time, Schumann also openly scolded audiences in print for their behavior. He went on record as chiding them: "You should be turned to stone pagodas."
Even the Frankfurt Conservatory which did not allow any female teachers considered her an honorary male and accommodated her various demands for teaching. She had more balls than Robert, that's for sure.
Jordan Jenkins
>underrating hildegard spotted the small-souled bugman
Mussorgsky sounds like something you eat for dessert and then gives you diarrhea.
Lincoln Morales
Whomst herest havest heardst Arvo Part’s Symphony 3? One of my top 5 all time, that tempest of violins about three into the first movement is orgasmic.
>One very special night at the opera must surely have been February 24, 1988. That night Pavarotti received 165 curtain calls (!!!!!) for his performance in the Donizetti opera “L’elisir d’amore“ at the Deutsche Oper Berlin. This is still the world record for curtain calls. Pavarotti was applauded for 1 hr. 7 min. fucking boomers
Andrew Rodriguez
Name a single one
Daniel Roberts
petzold
Logan Rodriguez
...
Austin Jackson
Will Der Ring des Nibelungen ever be topped? Nothing makes me feel raw awe like this opera cycle does.
Pfft. Dresden even had its own Franz Schubert. >He was a colleague of Weber’s when that composer worked in Dresden. Sadly he is remembered chiefly for a letter he wrote in April 1817 to the publishers Breitkopf und Härtel who had been sent a manuscript of Erlkönig by the authentic Schubert, and returned it as not interesting enough to publish (how can we blame Goethe, a musical amateur, for rejecting Schubert, when Germany’s foremost music publisher was also blind to his talents?). Unfortunately Breitkopf sent the manuscript back to the wrong Franz Schubert who, in turn, wrote them a blistering letter: ‘I beg to state the cantata was never composed by me. I shall retain the same in my possession in order to learn, if possible, who sent you that sort of trash in such an impolite manner, and also to discover the fellow who has thus misused my name.’
Kevin Adams
Why aren’t you bums composing and collectively reasserting the superiority not only of Art Music, but the arts as a whole? What happened white men, did ya, did ya balls drop off?
This, it seems past time that we had another major composer. I feel a renaissance bubbling in general. What are you composing?
Jaxson Martinez
I just found a page when you can compose things with other people
Wyatt Howard
music
Jayden Collins
Is it on what they call "real life"?
Tyler Wright
Hey dudes please help. This appears on some guitar music sheet, and it supposed to be vibrato. The thing is, the numbers above suppose to symbol fingers of the fretting hand, but how can you do vibrato with two fingers?
>how can you do vibrato with two fingers? you vibrate the string(s) using two fingers instead of one.
Matthew Bell
The problem is that the F is sharp, so it's impossible
Levi Ramirez
>listening to Sibelius symphonies >some good shit going on in the 5th Isn't this one of the most successful compositions of the century?
Oliver Bailey
hair doesn't really give you dna, it's used to pick up skin cells from the hair roots which have to be in good condition. it's very unlikely the hair was preserved well enough for the dna to be found
Jacob Wilson
I better know your names within the next five years.
Colton Lee
What do you think of this? I can't find much about it, scholars seem to love it and to me it is one of the most astounding pieces by Mozart.
There's also that lute composer Weiss youtu.be/Th2AWxIJhTE He was a friend of Zelenka and he had an improvisation battle with Bach, absolute Chad status
Went to the proms this evening for Beethoven night, AMA.
Kayden Hernandez
was good?
Carson Gray
Yeah it was pretty cool. They did the 5th but the highlight was the soprano who did "Ah! perfido" and the aria "Abscheulicher! … Komm, Hoffnung" from Fidelio.
>You're literally talking to yourself. Well i just wanted to post that there's sheet for that crazy Zelenka fugue Its not easy to find sheet music for Zelenka, since he's a recently discovered composer
Further proof that namefags and tripfags are the cancer of all generals. They've infected your mind so much that you believe everyone else is like them.
Last night of the proms today. They cut down British composers to a minimum this year, so it wasn't so bad overall. BBC shilled some horrible singers though, heavy vibrato for Mozart's requiem, are you serious? Guest orchestras were usually better than the BBC orchestras, nothing new.
Favs: >Franck - Symfonie in D moll >Schubert - 3 Klavierstücke D946 >Dvořák - Symphony no. 9 >Wagner - Das Rheingold: Einzug der Götter in Walhall >Mozart - Piano Sonata in A major K331
Brahms is such a pompous faggot, there comes a point where his grandiloquence is just insufferable.
Hudson Hughes
What are some good recordings of mozart's piano concertos? I know some Haskil and Staier ones, which I like, but I've been meaning to get into the whole concertos more.
Yes, I just finished watching this series about a year ago. A year before that, I took a Music Appreciation course at my college, which is how I got into classical music. This Yale course is pretty good, but it's too mainstream. He literally says "if you know Beethoven's 5th, Beethoven's 9th, and Mozart's Serenade 13, then you should drop this course and stop wasting your time." Is there a more advanced course that goes deeper than this? I was looking to build off my college course, not repeat it online with a boomer.
Nathan Phillips
How loud is it exactly? Judging from videos of people playing in their apartments, it seems either bearable or insanely loud.
David Williams
it is an act of doublethink to like both classical music and anime at the same time
anime is the antithesis of expression. Writing and art style designed only to sell, to appeal to the lowest common denominator audience and to deliver a drip-feed of dopamine, with no regard for individuality or innovation if you post anime on /classical/ youre a fake musician and thats the end of it
Ryder Green
>stuff a sock under the tailpiece is it fine to use my cumrag? will that damage the wood?
Aaron Rivera
The king of boomer cringe
Austin Bailey
>is it fine to use my cumrag? will that damage the wood? if by cumrag you meant a woman then yeah
Alexander Scott
>Uh, actually I just thought of you as a friend. I didn't mean to lead you on. music for this feel?
>Giulini Giovanni That recording fucking sucks lmao
Colton Mitchell
Berserk, Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Cowboy Bebop spring to mind. I liked those a lot.
Caleb Evans
Yes I thought of LoGH, but even popular stuff like Dragon Ball. Toriyama obviously began writing just as a silly gag manga, which he had a passion for. It was never meant to go past 7 volumes at the start so it obviously wasn't made "just to sell", he was just doing what he liked. DBSuper obviously doesn't apply here Lot of manga started off because an artist had a passion for the medium, of course nowadays the industry is so filled with pandering it almost looks like a parody of itself, but regardless. That isn't inherent to the form, it's just the time we live in
Yeah he did it to fuck with the audience, because back in the day concerts were basically just social gatherings and they barely paid attention to the music.
Christian Parker
I discovered him recently, I still have to hear the Zarathustra Symphony
Juan Moore
Redpill me on Ashish Xiangyi Kumar
Brody Walker
Wyschnegradsky is great but I can't help at hating how retarded microtones sound on the piano. Almost every instrument can pull them off except piano. His composition are great though, its just the timbres
Jason Kelly
I have to agree on that, microtones generally sound a lot better on string instruments than on keyboard ones.
Samuel Jones
mostly uploads romantic horseshit. quality score channel though
Owen Taylor
mozART beethOVEN
I rest my case.
Logan Cook
Twenty-something year old Cambridge law graduate with a real stick up his ass. Acts like he's all wise and enlightened, even though his writing is thick as molasses and his opinions are second-hand. Someone needs to take that boy and rail him up the ass until he learns some respect.
Carter Ward
kek
Jayden Evans
but it's woke...it's pure cringe, especially the commentators, go be plebs somewhere else. The yank is a musical singer, not an opera singer.
Dominic Nguyen
Briatin is lost as a west nation
Caleb Allen
WHAT THE FUCK I HAD 1.25 SPEED ON AND WHEN I WAS FINISHED I NOTICED AAAAAAAHHHHH FUCK I CANT GET INTO THE NORMAL TEMPO IT'S WAY TOO SLOW NOW AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
The musical numbers she did were awful though, she had absolutely no style and barely made it through
Owen Kelly
bACH more like ach-tooey!
Noah Barnes
watching what?
Asher Butler
Last Night of the Proms
I love the Fantasia on British Sea Songs in its entirety but they keep making weird changes and omitting bits in recent years
Zachary Bennett
what's the Proms?
Brody Martin
kys
Noah Foster
I agree, what a boring rendition, I didn't say she's good musical singer lol.
Robert Campbell
unironic post (unfortunately)
I grew up for a large portion of my life listening to Mahler symphonies. This is less bad when you realize I played horn and was drawn to that music, but still, what should I go to now? I've listened to shosty (good), R. Strauss (mostly good with some trash), Wagner (occasionally good), sibelius (not good but maybe I need to grow), and lately schnittke ("fun" but not good).
if it's on the horn repertoire then I've listened to it, fyi
Jeremiah Walker
we really are, between woke millennials and retarded no deal boomers we're fucked
Aaron Martinez
Mozart and Schoenberg
Jack James
Havergal Brian, this british composer gave much importance to the brass section (even over the strings) in his works.
Andrew Ramirez
If you come to Spain you could have a second chance
Connor Green
If you like brass try some stuff by Eric Ball or Gilbert Vinter
I like Resurgam
Adam Scott
listened to every Mozart piece with a horn (and performed about half of them), so hes out.
I'm less acquainted with schoenberg but I know his sound. I like it, but wish it was more, idk, expansive? It feels like it ends too abruptly without developing its themes.
I've literally never heard this name before, I'll give it a look. thanks.
I like brass a lot. I've been trying to break from it (see: literally every work that doesn't prominently feature brass) while also embracing it (brass quintets, etc.)
I'll check these out, thanks
Ethan Clark
which one
Nathaniel Lewis
Where did you train? If you're a bong we probably have mutual friends
Adam Ramirez
Richard Strauss
Jayden Mitchell
US, (un)fortunately. I left music to pursue a PhD in an unrelated field, but I trained under a national musician for a few years.
No pleb (including redditors) knows a single melody outside his Also Sprach Zarathustra
Jaxson Parker
R. Strauss borders approachability and haute music, for most of his tone poems at least. They're undoubtedly not something you'd experience by googling "classical music"
Nathaniel Ross
Bach was megalomaniacal and had an extremely short temper Wagner was megalomaniacal and an anti semite Gesualdo was a literal murderer Mozart was a degenerate Beethoven was a manlet incel drama queen Tchaikovsky was gay Schoenberg was a jew
Wtf why aren't any composers normal
Ryder Perry
I think you meant to respond to my horn post, but yes I've performed cherubini. also kalliwoda. both amazing pieces that go unlooked at!
based gesualdo, I knew there was a reason I liked his madrigals
Caleb Young
Scriabin was a crazy manlet Britten was a pedophile faggot Bernstein was a degenerate jewish faggot Brahms was a pimp Debussy was decadent Bruckner was an obssesive virgin autist Mahler was a jew full of obsessions and complexes
Jason Hill
I feel like British composers tend to write brass very well, might be something to do with the brass band tradition
Gabriel Murphy
What about Morgen?
Okay, I agree that some of him is a pleb filter. Especially the operas
Yeah they do. But even though they do this, their music sucks. I've performed so many britten pieces and hated every second besides "le epic horn moment!!1!"
I guess I'm looking for the best balance between horn presence and musicality, which hopefully hasn't already been reached with Beethoven/Mahler
Josiah Gonzalez
>listening to Mauersberger's Matthew's Passion >pretty good >fucking Theo Adam plays Christ Seriously fuck his voice Guess Leonhardt's will have to stay my go-to Matthew recording
Strauss tone poems would be the peak of a normal distribution of classical music. If people hate them, they're a "classical music, beats to study-to" pleb. but they're not the most experimental or interesting works, just harder to digest than the four seasons.
Adam Price
It was already reached by Wagner actually. Then the rest of the romantics overdid it
Find a time you can dedicate 1 hour for, then listen to Mahler 2
Nicholas Diaz
start with opera overtures
Grayson Lewis
What's the best recording for Mahler 2?
Kayden Powell
That's actually one of the few symphonies I've already heard. Symphonies are good, but I've found that I strongly prefer other forms for most composers like Beethoven's string quartets and piano sonatas
Eli Davis
I agree chamber music is great, but sometimes symphonies do things which smaller ensembles can't. They can conjure up colours and timbres which wouldn't be possible without such a wide array of instruments, for example.
Josiah Young
Tennstedt
Thomas Lee
Good taste, brother. The constrictions of chamber writing tend to filter out the mediocrities, or at least highlight mediocrity itself. What have you been listening to?
Landon Diaz
Brahm's German Requiem Monteverdi's Vespro della Beata Vergine Schoenberg's Pierrot lunaire Schubert's string works
Did a little sampling of Brahm's 4th, it sounds good but it just doesn't excite me as much.
Jaxon Johnson
Try Brahms 1 and Schumanns 2nd violin sonata
Nolan Turner
Will do, appreciate it.
Thomas Evans
None of these are Kate Soper
Benjamin Baker
all are based your point? that you're an unbased boring normalfag?
