>Like, everyone knows the 90s didn't end until 2004 XD
I see younger millennials (who only remember 98-99 from the 90s) say this all the time but is it really true?
Like, if you compare music from the "core 90s" (1993-1997) to 2004 music it's completely friggin different. The picture quality is way cleaner and more modern, the sound is more manufactured/formulaic.
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Late 80s to early 90s was one decade, mid 90s was another, followed by late 98-04, then in 2007 the 2010s started. 2020s started about a year ago
not this shit again
The 90s ended on September 11th 2001
This.
To add to this sentiment, the previous decade always lingers in the air during the first part of the next. Examples...people always act like "hair metal" was done by the 1990, but shit was still coming out, including some very big albums with hits. People often talk about nu-metal being a "90's" thing and yes it began in the mid 90s and was at it's peak by 1999, but the early 2000's still produced a lot of the most well known stuff....like Linkin Park, Papa Roach, Disturbed, Evanescence, etc etc...it wasn't really until about 2005 until it truly became passe and emo/core started to take the mainstream by the balls. Oddly enough, many people think of boy/girl bands as being a 90's thing when they all came out like at the very last years of the 90s and were huge in the early 00's....
This isn't just true of music, but popular culture in general
Every decade's culture transitions over several years.
actually the 2020s started at the end of may when 1000 gecs came out
unironically agreed.
facts.
you had to be in grade school to understand this
I think that, in america at least, presidential elections/inaugurations seem to cause the sharp turns the styles and trends of each decade.
80s culture: 1981-1993 (Reagan/HW Bush years)
90s culture: 1993-2001 (Clinton years)
2000s culture: 2001-2009 (Dubya years)
2010s culture: 2009-present (Obama/Trump years)
Notice how on TV, movies, music and whatnot, 1993 is when the 80s style fully died and is replaced with the 90s stye, and of course that's when Clinton became president. Or how electropop music and HDTV emerges in 2008-2009 when Obama was elected.
Is there actually any cultural aspect after 2001?
I feel after 9/11, western culture became a sort of grey fog, nothing distinguishable. Almost like a soulless carcass of what was once popular culture.
Oh, yeah, 2007 brought iPhones, and some time later social media became a thing, I guess that defines modern times, but other than that, it's still a grey fog without form or substance.
boomer take. you answered it yourself, 2007 brought iphones, by 2010 everybody had one (or similar), since then we've been adjusting as a species to having smartphones. maybe next decade we'll finally get over the novelty
Technology drives cultural change
After smartphones there really hasnt been a big invention to shake shit up
The closest we got was cryptocurrency and the blockchain but those are still too early on
ipods and fake reality tv
You're just another reddit/buzzfeed "le 90s kid" boomer if you think "hurr no time change after 9/11". Every year's culture is changing so fast these days.
Name 1 important cultural change other than social media shit.
Also reminder that social networks aren't as amazing as people thought they'd be on cyberpunk flicks, it's literally just retards taking selfies and using tarzan-tier ways of expressing themselves.
I'd say 2010 to 2015 was vastly different compared to from 2015 to now.
Social media is a huge cultural change
YouTube has fucked up the old way entertainment was produced and consumed
Depends on your definition of the 90s.
There's the 90s that is essentially a continuation of the late 80s, then there's the 90s that is prototypical of the early 00s. It's a really rad decade, starting out with pink shirts, purple palms and the Soviet Union and ending with Matrix shades, y2k cgi and modern Russia.
I remember people slammed the absolute shit out of the late 00s-early 10s when they were new, but now zoomers post nostalgia for them (Minecraft, cool math games, icarly, lady gaga, diary of a wimpy kid) and miss them compared to the trump era.
>tech advancements can only be hardware
big data and ML have driven culture this past decade more than anything. going online, or even just existing as a consumer, is much different than it was 10 years ago
There's also the 1993-1997 period in-between those two periods you mentioned that was neither of those things
So were cable TV and home video back in the 20th century.
But those are just part of a whole bigger cultural picture.
How would you describe the 00s and 10s? Each decade in the 20th century is distinct, and eclectic. I can't really tell apart 00s and 10s other than uh, we went from 1080p HD to 4K and iphone 9 or whatever now?
How had big data changed what you do?
You still get advertised to with all the old tropes
This.
you must be a zoomer. advertising today is 1000% different from last decade and affects more areas of our lives than ever before.
this is absolutely correct
the 90s lasted from Nevermind in 1992 to Ok Computer in 1997. 1998 already had Boy Bands being the best sellers, and female soloists like Britney and Christina instead of Fiona Apple or Alanis or any of the Lilith Fair chicks.
When people think of the 90s they think of the period in which Grunge and Alternative Rock were mainstream and sold millions, the Beavis and Butthead period of MTV.
the period from 1998 to 2004 was the last period in which rock was mainstream, unfortunately it was under the shape of numetal mostly.
after that period the internet ended up killing for real the profitability of the music industry and rock never recovered
Its only different cause its in more places
Big fucking deal that Google can craft a specific algorithm for you specifically
Its just a focus group on an extremely small automated level
serious question here
what was it about the 90s that brought so much variety, innovation and just damn good music?
>inb4 "good music exists today ur just not looking lol," i mean the 90s had golden age of hip hop, rock, lots of metal, electronic music was fucking exploding worldwide, etc
wasnt alive during the era but still feel some weird inheritance of it if that makes sense
hopefully some oldfags could explain, love you all
they're full of shit. 2012 was the last good early '10s year imo
you're dumb. before our current ad infrastructure there was no good way to target specific audiences. now there is. it makes a difference on a societal level
I don't feel the 90s were special, the issue is what came afterwards was specially bad.
An important thing about the 90s is that irony and edginess (as in, doing shocking things that offended people) were cool.
because of that, music was more adult and directed to people in their 20s than to teenagers
compare these two videos, first one from 1997 and second one from 1999
in 2 years popular culture changed a lot, btw, Fiona sold 3 million copies of Tidal in the USA, that is how commercially successful female albums were, the biggest example would be Alanis and her You Ought to Know
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rock music never recovered from the late 90s