What's the best-sounding hammer you've ever heard? Zurich Tonhalle's hammer is too resonant, and you can tell the box it hit was big+empty. Bernstein's WPO had a good hammer, but he chose the retarded S-A order so I had to discard the recording. Solti's CSO hammer too, is very resounding.
Look around on the Sorabji site for releases and to see all recordings made thus far and the name of all performers >sorabji-archive.co.uk/ follow toothless toe and Alexander Scriabin channels on YouTube, but I don't remember if everything they upload is performed by people as opposed to MIDI.
It's just a reaction image, but if you really want to go there, Ives was a proto-post-modernist and a forerunner in many contemporary compositional tools and post-modernism is obviously related to contemporary music as well.
hey fellas I just gave classical a listen for the first time and i loved it, is there like a list for the basics or where to start at? I'm not sure where to go now, is there like a recommended chart for classical?
why can't opera singers every sing anything clearly enunciated. can't understand a fucking word
Justin Murphy
bel canto
Camden Lee
i don't like it
Matthew Harris
i dont either
Lucas Lewis
I honestly dont know what I would do without youtube and youtube to mp3 downloaders
theres no way in hell I would both know so many good songs and also be able to own the specific recordings I like
I have like 5 backups of my playlist though because the thought of loosing these precious files is fucking horrifying. out of everything i own id probably choose to keep a usb with my backup on it, basically everything else can be replaced but theres so many extremely specific files in the old classical collection that it would be monumentally painful if not eventually impossible to replace
I think I might have to start burning disks just in case
Brody Allen
>ives amerimutt nigger
Brayden Jones
Metal, french house, prog rock, 90s hip hop,
Kevin Jenkins
No I mean what classical piece did you listen to There's a lot of different stuff but based on that try dome late romantics like Liszt
Brandon Phillips
excuse my autism. I listened to Chopin, beethoven, bach, wagner. i heard a few otherss but those are the ones ive listened to the most
Why is the first movement so good lads, I have yet to find much that scratches the same itch so well.
Henry Gray
Stop posting this shit, it's garbage.
Easton Torres
can someone post some like opera things where there is like a soprano or colotura or whatever the people are that sing really high i love that shit but ive listened to at least the top 500 operas on any list so i'm looking for maybe some solo pieces shit that some composers make not a full opera but something that just knocks your sock off with the girl if you want know what i mean
Like always, Froberger is so weird, how the fuck can you even make music THIS fucking melodic, it just goes on and on until the piece is over All of his suites end up sounding the same
I like Glen Ghoul for sharing obscure stuff but I refuse to reply to him anyways because he 1. posts anime girls 2. posts frogs 3. likes Glenn Gould 4. is a namefag Thanks for reading, guys.
Ayden Nelson
thats probably the piece that got me into harpsichord in general
Do you feel the same about his Harpsichord suites sounding all the same? or is it just me? i'm a brainlet, all that Melodic inventiveness, and it just ends up sounding the same to me
Julian Kelly
i just said ive listened to the top 500 operas and your gonna post one of the the famous arias of them all
>One of Mozart's preferred genres is not real classical music >the genre to which one of Beethoven's personal favorite works (Fidelio) belonged to is not real classical music Lmao learn something before posting
Carter Gomez
What are other Classical Compositions similar to The Rites Of Spring?
Ian Cook
Similar in what sense? Idk try some Bruckner maybe or Shostakovich
does anyone have a link to high fidelity recordings of Schnittkes Psalms of Repentance? I would really appreciate it, thank you
Noah Parker
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Samuel Butler
Why do you guys think there haven't been any great composers since Shostakovich and Gershwin? What's going on? Shouldn't composers be having a field day with amplifiers and synthesizers and computers?
Christian Morgan
What's going on is that you've just submitted a loaded question and are projecting your own perceptions and philistine tastes unto us. also >Gershwin
I'm not a goddamn autist. Post these guys' best tracks. I have a lot of shit to listen to before I even think about listening to your autistic bullshit.
well I really meant the subject of the thread, but ok
no
Robert Campbell
>be Norrington >record a great Don Giovanni, probably overall the best one >ruin it by taking the Commendatore scene too fast Can I somehow slow it down on some program or something
Just listened to his piano quintet, it's fucking great but it didn't contain as much thicc counterpoint as I had expected.
Matthew Reyes
I'm a brainlet, please help me identify the piece at the very beginning, shortly before the guy begins to speak. youtu.be/KIxuvAYQ-HQ I've heard it multiple times during my childhood in the radio and now some decades later I finally found it, but I still don't know the name of piece of music.
I have a friend who want to learn pleb pieces for his year at the conservatory, how do I tell him nicely to learn other pieces without hurting his feelings?
Christopher Adams
You can't, I've the same problem. Motherfucker loves Chopin and hates Mozart. What does your friend want to learn?
schubert impromtus op90 and chopin etudes also mozart 12 but I think that's ok
Brayden Smith
I understand that Beethoven might just be another dead white man in the cannon, but his music still speaks to me in a very special way. It wasn't until I played my first Beethoven Sonata as a child that I felt like I was in true communion with a composer.
Colton Parker
based boomer youtube commenter
Liam Jenkins
Those are all great pieces though, you're just a faggot
I cannot describe how resentful I am that I did not receive music training when I was a child. What sort of clueless parent does not give their child/sign their child up for lessons? Others have parents who care about their child's intellectual and spiritual development and end up with perfect pitch, while my parents are hopeless TV addicted wageslave proles that begot a child into this world and completely abandoned it in terms of intellectual and spiritual development, despite being what society calls "intelligent" people, it seems they had no other hopes for their child than to become a soulless "cog", as it were, and even though this saying is cliche, it is true, it is a cliche because it is true and it is true because it is a cliche, while others have parents that have actually thought about having children rather than doing it because "it's the thing to do", and they end up having a child like me, who has absolutely no share or footing in the world, and has to sit for hours in front of an ear training website clicking "hear next" for hours in order to begin to approximate the skill that other people's parents freely gave them at a young age. Musicians have something in this world for them, if everything else fails then they are at least able to understand music with their minds and play it well, but I have nothing, absolutely nothing in this world, no home, so to speak, as musicians have their home in music I have no home at all.
>Others have parents who care about their child's intellectual and spiritual development and end up with perfect pitch you can't learn perfect pitch you retard. it's pure chance, you either have it from birth or you don't. now fuck off with your gay depressive "oh poor me" bullshit.
I LOVE MOZART'S 18TH PIANO CONCERTO AN user ONCE TOLD ME HERE THAT IT'S GOOD BUT NOTHING SPECIAL WELL FUCK YOU FUCKER
Christopher Foster
cringe
Brody Reed
sneed
Ryder Bennett
is the atonal mozart meme true?
Brayden Bell
The ending to the Große Fuge made me cry
Benjamin Sanchez
What do you mean What atonal Mozart meme
Jordan Garcia
More like gross fugue Hehe
Mason Johnson
>GroBe >gross I don't get it
Elijah Lewis
Grobe is "grope" is german. It was written for a woman whom Beethoven used to sexually assault by groping. That is a gross thing to do.
Luis Lewis
Beethoven was a whiteknight cuck, he wouldn't dare >After the premiere performance Beethoven and Bridgetower fell out: while the two were drinking, Bridgetower apparently insulted the morals of a woman whom Beethoven cherished. Enraged, Beethoven removed the dedication of the piece, dedicating it instead to Rodolphe Kreutzer, who was considered the finest violinist of the day.[4]
Caleb Roberts
I said GroBe not Grobe, the capital B is pronounced like s in German
Hunter Robinson
That's not how it works. Ives was a modernist, obviously, but he also used post-modernist techniques like citations, palimpsests and similar to cause a chaotic effect before post-modernism even existed. Therefore he is a proto-post-modernist. Read above, brainlet. Literally who has ever said that.
Why are you so insecure about your own preferences, user?
Angel Green
was it ross that said gould didn't understand bach? if he was, could you link me to the video? i know there was one
Kayden Ward
Like Bernstein said, Gould must be heard and serve as an example how not to do it.
Asher Wilson
Technically second to none, a phenomenal pianist. Perhaps not always as tasteful though.
Samuel Harris
I was considering buying the big Scott Ross bach set, but now I'm not so sure. Shitting on Gould (if he really did) like that shows very poor judgment imo.
Easton Hernandez
>Bernstein
lol.
Dominic Cooper
>When Schuppanzigh (a famous violinist who collaborated with Beethoven) complained about the difficulty of a passage in one of Beethoven's late quartets, the composer replied: >"Do you fancy I am thinking of your puking little fiddle when the muse confides in me?" kek based
>A passionate collector of orchids, his other hobbies included volcanology, mineralogy, and mycology. His keyboard interests were similarly wide-ranging, extending beyond the harpsichord to the music of Frédéric Chopin, Claude Debussy and Maurice Ravel that he performed on the piano, and he also accompanied Schubert lieder. He loved the music of Brian Eno and Philip Glass, and was a fan of the punk performance artist Nina Hagen. Comparisons which might be drawn between Ross and the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould (e.g., due to their common love of Baroque music and their unconventional approaches) are put into a fuller context by these comments from Ross in a documentary film made toward the end of his life: >When I hear nutcases like Glenn Gould who do: [plays staccato version of J.S. Bach's Partita no. 1, BWV 825, Allemande], I say he understood nothing of Bach's music! I've listened carefully to his records: he didn't understand. He was very brilliant; I respect him up to a certain point. For me, the fact that an artist doesn't appear in public poses a problem. But at least he was a guy with the courage not to do things like other people. All the same, he was wide off the mark, so wide off the mark that you'd need a 747 to bring him back. I'm hard on Glenn Gould. Well, he's dead now, so I won't attack a colleague.
Nicholas Sanchez
>feeling so threatened by a dead colleague
yeh, i guess i'll stick with leonhardt for harpsichord bach.
Austin Walker
Yeah there's a lot of results on Google and Youtube and Amazon, but what do you guys recommend for learning the piano self-taught? My dream is to work up to playing Suite Bergamasque.
>spending my evening with Mozart and his wind concertos, and maybe one or two piano concertos Damn, it feels good to recognise the absolute genius of Wolfgang Amadeus. >decides to visit /classical/ after months of absence >Zelenka in every thread >*googles him* >one billion masses, requiems, litanies, magnificats Is he a new meme or should I listen to him? What are his best jams?
I just don't understand why Renaissance polyphony is not appreciated enough, it's probably the greatest form of art made by any civilization since the dawn of history
Brody Perry
>it's probably the greatest form of art made by any civilization since the dawn of history greatest form of music? surely. greatest form of art? nah.
I actually did happen because I opened a thread about how the grosse fugue was overrated and talkclassical boomers who can't take a banter thought I was intending to write it as "gross" which I didn't, so they banned me
Lucas Russell
so what is the greatest form of art then? beside the art of blowjob of course
Easton Hall
hard to agree on a single one as THE greatest. But classical literature, renaissance sculpture, academic painting are fierce contenders.
Joseph Martin
renaissance sculpture is nothing but reconstruction of the classical Greco-Roman great sculpture, most classical literature is worthless, academic painting is delusional, the result? I won kek
Colton Carter
>renaissance sculpture is nothing but reconstruction of the classical Greco-Roman great sculpture >classical literature is worthless >academic painting is delusional
Yes I deleted my comment because it was based on a wrongful assumption that Liszt had lived into his 90s (which was probably impressed by his Faust obsession).
Good. Romantic music is god-tier and anybody who denies this is just denying himself the pleasure to consume beautiful art and is being contrarian. But the same applies to medieval, renaissance and modernist music as well.
Nathan Cook
>Have a dream where I hear a Rautavaara Flute Concerto >Think, hey, what if this actually exists? >look it up
that you use a postmodern writer's (nameless because you'd do it with any) acknowledgment of the cannon first thing upon seeing their face lays bare the fact you're bitch
Nathaniel Reed
why the fuck cant i listen to tchaikovsky on spotify? it just refuses to play any of his tracks, wtf?
