Tool Thread

>talking about a new album is cringe!
Kill yourself.

choke on a dick faggot and fuck off to one of the other 50 threads about this

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this my first time posting Tool, nigga,

Nah that sounds like something you do, retard.

kys you insufferable faggot

Go take a walk and get some fresh air lmao.

Go play in traffic and jump in front of a bus lmao.

go jump in a volcano or something nigga,

Die.

go get some fresh cyanide

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Every time I've tried listening to it I never thought of skipping a track but it always just ends up being in the background

i thought chocolatchip going directly into 7empest was AMAZING

i really enjoyed the album altogether and think they did a good job

That guitar solo in 7empest is classic imo

>to drink to
(Since i dont use drugs)
Lol

"Prison Sex is about child molestation and cycles of abuse.

The creaking at the beginning of the song is meant to emulate a door being gently pushed open, creaking loud among the silence.

He hadn't picked up the name Maynard yet, that came later. He was James now. Probably was referred to as 'Jimmy' around this time. He was 11. His mom had her fateful aneurysm that left her broken down and paralyzed, forever changed, her faithful devotion intensified and led her to become more and more delusional and willfully ignorant.

Jimmy's stepfather was caring for him at this time, he inspires the content for this song for about two years until Judith finally sends him to his fathers in Michigan.

The part that gets me is that the child molestation is only the first verse, the rest of the song is about him, the victim, becoming the perpetrator. What fucks my mind is that i cant decide whether of not this is a metaphor for him getting into sodomy as a result (4 degrees, stinkfist) or if he for real raped a dude. Or both."

Love it. I don't get why everybody seems so disappointed
>instrumental filler
biggest plebeian

One of my albums of the year, adore it. And I'm not a massive Tool fan.

A little better than I expected it would be, and prefer it to 10,000 days. Jones is still the weakness of the band but he has a couple surprisingly good solos, the rest of the band, especially Carey, is great. Can't stop listening to Invincible.

It’s so boring to me, some beats loop for so long I hate it. Definitely don’t see the hype around it other than old prog heads getting hard

1. Pneuma
2. 7empest
3. Invincible
-powergap-
4. Descending
5. Fear
6. Culling

He writes a lot of songs about societal problems. Why does that necessarily mean that he experienced molestation himself?

seven empest is the real standout, one of the best tracks the bang has made, not so sure about the rest

What kind of gigantic ultra pleb shit taste do you have? This is bait, right?

Alcohol is a drug.

7empest would've been the perfect track if it had ended at 12 minutes. 3 last minutes are absolute uneventful.

1. Invincible
2. 7empest
3. Pneuma
4. Descending
5. Fear
6. Culling

I like all tracks though

I think we are reaching a forum consensus on Fear being the second worst and Culling being the worst of the 6 main tracks. 2-4 pretty interchangeable for me.

Invincible
Descending
7empest
Pneuma
Fear
Culling

he writes about heroin a lot, it doesn't mean he ever tried it himself

Cant believe all this shitters who rank Culling the worst, it is easily the best track with Invinicble.
Rest is one the same page kind of.

my beef with Culling is that the aggressive/distorted riff is very bland and uninspired. I enjoy when the song is calm though

That's my point. None of his lyrics means he experienced it himself, including sexual abuse.

you missed *my* point was that he has written about heroin again and again because of his struggle with it and has written about abuse often as well. it's one of those things that you know it when you see it, there's no doubt alternativenation.net/maynard-james-keenan-makes-terrible-heroin-revelation/

Good album, bad front cover.

lmfao this is so fucking gay

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well shit

>alternativenation.net/maynard-james-keenan-makes-terrible-heroin-

he doesn't admit to using heroin at all. He is just explaining how Oxycontin was used to get people off of heroin

It's solid. Really enjoying Invincible, Descending, CCT, and 7empest. Pneuma is solid, have to give the others more listens.
>chocolate chip is so out of place it's not even funny
pleb filter

user had it right when they said it sounds like a jam session and someone's cousin who's awesome at drumming just happens to be in the town and is a cool guy who likes "brewskies"

oh god that was a funny post, did anyone screencap it?

there's no way he was able to write the lyrics for H. without having dealt with a heroin addiction himself. it's too nuanced and t.knowery. or maybe he was with a girlfriend for years who was addicted to it. he is from ohio afterall.

I thought it was boring as fuck.
Nothing new
Nothing special
Every song sounds familiar
No real overall tone that sets it apart
Just boring

>it's too nuanced and t.knowery.

and how the heck do you know that? are you a heroin addict?

yes, i am. everyday for 19 years now. FUGGG
H. is a real deal song

FI - 7.6
Pneuma - 10.0
Invimicble -10.0
Descending - 10.0
Culling voices - 7.3
CCT - 10.0
7empest - 10.0

Wtf i thought it was definitely going to be bad. Fucking crazy. Tool might have the highest number of amazing songs out of any band ever. King crimson was close but they have tool much shit/boring songs.

I’m stuck on descending. Fantastic tune

It's like they have become a parody of themselves

There are a lot of Tool songs that allude to rape and Maynard having been the victim of sexual abuse growing up (prison sex, jimmy, H, opiate, etc.). I remember watching one interview of him addressing some of the more violent song by saying “sometimes you have to write about the bad things so that you don’t actually do them”

As a long time fan, I’m so disappointed but on the same token not surprised. Im happy I know about it though, nobody should be able to get away with this.

were you able to buy a non limited edition cd?
i was told the label might do another run limited ones and then offer cds

>Tool might have the highest number of amazing songs out of any band eve

Lol. Even if you are ovsesswd with tool, thats what...30-40 songs? Tops

Good thing he's a good drummer, because he seems like a total faggot

Who the fuck is this tool guy?

>alternativenation.net/maynard-james-keenan-makes-terrible-heroin-revelation/
he probably has tried it but alternative nation is utter trash
he never even said anything about being a heroin user in that interview
alternative nation is clickbait nonsense

Dude Adam gave us that amazing ending of descending, for that alone i think he does not deserve all the shit he is getting, people saying he doesn't belong or that hes uninspired and boring, feel bad for him desu.

why is he so cute bros
youtube.com/watch?v=2t1lt99CWnA

okay so H and Opiate and Sober we're all FRAUD and his writing is worthless

fuck all the tool threads and fuck all their clones
fuck these disfunctional insecure shitposters

>used to run maynard to go get crickets for his gecko,he didnt have a car for awhile so we became friends

fuuuuuck. tool exists because of a gecko was hungry

aenima=lateralus>undertow>10k>fi

thats it

>this is like a prank and the real album is coming in another few weeks.
Same shit as 13 years ago, huh? Except that the supposed "decoy album" turned out to be the actual one after all

danny is kawaii. he is a GRANDPA and uncle too.
the smile never leaves his face
youtu.be/-JWdh-F1xdQ

when she says the F word he wants to explode

samefag cringe

>his writing is worthless
correct

Also on many occasions the exact same riff was repeated within a song the same exact way, which was not really the case before I think

>how even into Tool
youtube.com/watch?v=8UUwf1609Ns

he writes about things he has zero experience with that have to do very real suffering

Based Ænema poster

I was thinking the same. It could also be they are torpedoing the brand in order to relieve some of their legal problems. I cant explain why else someone would put out a product so bad.

listening now, enjoying the album so far. to some of the people saying there is too much instrumental filler - it's all subject to taste.

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oh really you mean that not liking something tool-related is allowed now? it's just taste and not bait or wrong or zoomed or low iq

Opiate isn't about opiates lol. Good job not listening to the music you're talking about

samefagging for alcohol is a drug you fucking idiot, it's a potent one too. Almost as bad as heroin.

yes i meant it in relation to rape, another subject he writes about constantly.

okay H is about what? are you seriously pretending he has never written about drug use?

Just find the hundred-some threads in the archive if you've been gone since it leaked or just want to see the same few opinions regurgitated.

>implying everybody is trolling and / or retarded
nigger you know that's not the case

Why do 90% of all Tool songs sound the same?

because tool is tool. they have a sound
no one gets made at other bands for making music that sounds like they made it. bizarre. i guess my only answer is, tool has a UNIQUE SOUND, and they use it, so when people hear that UNIQUE SOUND they instantly associate it with tool. being unique is bait for endless hate now a days

no but I mean like why do 90% of their songs have the same pacing and framing of structure and tone and levels of intensity in the highs and lows. There's no variation from song to song, this makes lackluster albums. There's no variation in the type of music that one song has compared to the next, save for some of the interludes or unexpectedly quiet parts on some of their stuff.

And the key, the key on like 95% of the songs I've heard from them is always the same, always in D. Sometimes this can be cool but the amount they do it hurts them overall

>311

You having a laugh mate?

UNIQUE SOUND is the absolute most important thing to me for anything I listen to but none of Tool's songs seem to be unique from one to the other most of the time

This.
That's quite a few amazing songs desu.
Kek
This. Same w Offspring. I give both bands credit for having a coherent sound over decades.

Anyone else skip the instrumental sections? The last 5 minutes of Descending are torture.

I remember reading the album is essentially one long song.

I've listened to it a few times, but I probably need a few more. The opening and closing tracks stick with me more, but I've been distracted when the middle comes through.
Pneuma is my favorite so far

I felt like the album version of Descending was off. Especially after hearing the live clear audio one. The live version is clearly better somehow. Its the same with Invincible. Like its slowed down or maybe because it sounds different. First time I have considered the live versions outright superior.

Every tool album is essentially one song

I find everything besides the title track and pneuma to be disposable. MAYBE except Invincible, but that's a push. Exceedingly lackluster. And the amount of recycled ideas on this album sticks out so badly, like I can point exactly to other songs in their discog that they took the material from...which wouldn't be a problem if it didn't feel like they were phoning it in, I guess.

Not a very good album, feels like they got done with their legal battle and threw some shit together

>The last 5 minutes of Descending are torture.
wew

Good album. Worth the wait. I thought it would suck when I heard the single, but it grew on me, and the rest of the album turned pretty good. Descending and 7empest in particular are somewhere in the top ten best Tool songs for me.

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Listened to it 3 times today. I won't have a final judgement until I hear Fantanos score, but here is what I think:
It sounds like an incredibly good Tool tribute band made their own album. Checks all the right boxes, but just feels a bit copypaste/derivative. Better than 10k Days. I'm feeling a light 8.

>I won't have a final judgement until I hear Fantanos score

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What's the issue with that? It's important to have a discourse with like minds when considering a piece of art.

You're making me cringe, faggot.

Fantano is a tool and a sellout.

Holy what a giga-pleb you are my friend

elaborate, what you are saying makes no sense

Simple, he gave an album I really enjoyed a horrible review and I've hated his guts ever since.

what the fuck do you mean Maynard's best vocal moment happens at 12:44

The fuck are you on? The second half of Descending is the apocalypse descending upon us after the call to arms of the first half and it's fucking perfect.

It's good.

7empest is fucking great but wheres the climax? what happened to the climax on a lot of these songs? they start out so great but then its like the same rhythm throughout the last 4 minutes

The guitars and drums sound too low or toned down in the mix of every song. Aside from the title track I honest to god can't remember anything else about the album. Maybe in terms of technical ability it's good, but in terms of memorability it's their worst imo.

isn't that kinda tools thing?
lure you into a rhythm

Do I have to be on psychedelics to appreciate the album?

>Fear Inoculum title track
>lyrics find a positive resolution towards the end
>the end of the track is still an "angry battle"
why
why do so many Tool tracks end with an "angry battle" sort of musical arrangement

Every single song has at least 5 min of meaningless filler on it.

A lot of songs no one can remember because they all meander in the middle for no fucking reason other than DUDE 10+ min song LMAO

Not really sure what to think, which means it's either a slow burner or not that great. I just feel like nobody ever really attempts to take the songs anywhere new. Yes there are many distinct parts to each song, but they mostly sound reminiscent of the songs on Lateralus.

I also think Maynard kind of phoned it in for most of the album.

Opiate and Undertow suck and sound like a pre-Tool band as opposed to Tool

Technically true too since Justin was not a part of

Im more excited for the new Puscifier album in 2021

Not being ironic, great project and has some of my favorite Manyard songs. All his great vocal melodies were on these albums, not Tool

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I already said this another thread but the album is better when you stop treating it like a new Tool album, and instead treat it like Maynard's tribute to all their previous albums.

It's basically just a remix/reshuffle of all their best riffs. I'm into it, but I think only an OGT could appreciate this album for this reason.

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hanging out with Joey Rogaine too much

Dude puscifer is trash hold a few tracks.

It's allowed to be trash, it's ExPeRIMenTaL

Then have discourse with literally any other reviewer. Fantano is a philistine and is cancerous to culture. Honestly go to pitchfork before Fantano even, if you’re going to go on that kind of populist path

>I hate everything that's popular
When you grow out of that phase we can talk about music. I know being a contrarian helps you though those difficult suburban white teenage times, but I've been through that already, so it's pretty laughable to read posts like yours from my perspective.

do you actually believe this? some people want to listen to great musicians jam out and find their space.

It is cool but I don't care about time signatures

I'm going to assume this is fake

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11/10
Album of the decade

>A lot of songs no one can remember
That just means you can find something "new" each time you listen to it.

You asked, and no one else in my life would ever care.

"Fear Inoculum" - When the single dropped, I listened and thought, "Well, that wasn't very good, but at least there's a new Tool song now." And I listened to it obsessively, eventually growing to like it okay. A lot of people don't like the "the Deceiver says" part, but I personally thought the "exorcise the X" part was the weakest. Overall, an acceptable track.

"Pneuma" - When this came on, I honestly thought it was a joke. That silly little drum riff in the beginning fucks the whole song up. And it's not like "Schism" where the shock is how different it is, like, "What fucking time signature is this?" It's just discordant. Like Danny was playing a different song from everyone else. I don't know what instrument that is; is it still the tabula? It was bad. Too long. I love "Rosetta Stoned" and I'm one of those faggots who thinks "Parabol" and "Parabola" should be one big song, but this song drags. Vocals were weak, too.

"Litanie contre la peur" - I won't say I've never heard a Tool track and thought, "What the fuck" before: "(-) Ions," "Lipan Conjuring," "Cesaro Summability," "Die Eier von Satan." But this was garbage. I wish I'd listened to the physical album first.

"Invincible" - Fine. Repetitive lyrics. Seems like an unrefined jam. A lot of the songs do. Die-hard Tool fans are saying that's their "evolution." Well, I hate jam bands. I like cerebral alt-rock bands. Call me a pleb, whatever. Most of you got hooked through "Sober."

"Legion Inoculant" - Is this some kind of "fuck you" to all the people who wanted Tool on digital? Literally ruins the album. Invincible so obviously it written to flow into "Descending." This asshole of a track made me legitimately angry.

"Descending" - Again, fine. A little meandering. I've lost interest at this point.

"Culling Voices" - I'd heard this was the "most beautiful" track, so my hopes were somewhat up. They were not met. *sigh* It's fine. Not much different from the latest Puscifer or A Perfect Circle albums vocally. I was hoping Keenan was saving his best stuff for the new album, but I guess he's just run out of steam.

"Chocolate Chip Trip" - Awful. If it hadn't been for all the rest of the bullshit on this album, I could've been like, "Ehh, it's like 'Intermission' or 'Mantra'." Fuck this album so far.

"7empest" - First track that actually perked my ears up. I really liked it, but I was so tired, the fifteen-plus minute length was a chore. If it'd come earlier, or if I'd been listening to the CD, it might have hit me harder. I got the impression it was about Trump, which, if it was, is super fucking gay. Save that dumb shit for Puscifer. But whatever. Lyrics seemed neutral enough to be about any asshole. Best song on the album. I see a lot of people putting "Pneuma" before this one, but "7empest" just flows so much better. It sounds like they were actually trying to make a song.

"Mockingbeat" - Literal fucking noise. Just a big middle finger at the end. Nothing ominous like "Faaip de Oaid" or "Disgustipated." Just outside noises. Wasn't even on a field microphone; sounds like someone left their phone outside.

As one does.

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Look at this pathetic normie try to convince himself that his mentally ill obsession with celebrities is validated by their popularity and that anyone who likes anything else is a mere teenager, less enlightened than he by the wisdom age.

Imagine being this big of a fucking faggot. Go back to /r/music, fuck face.

tl;dr

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With all the downtime in the album, I'm starting to wonder if it's meant to be backing tracks for some of their previous works, like how you can put songs from Lateralus and 10k Days together and they fit perfectly. About to go try Descending with the Parabol/a suite and see how it turns out.

I didn't think it was very good.

Bummer

Awww, me knowing you are a 17 year old white suburbanite hit a little too close to home?

I haven't gotten to hear the full album end to end, but I think the live leaked tracks after they were cleaned sounded better than the album, if only for the heaver energy.

I wouldn't mind if they did a live release like salival

>"Mockingbeat" - Literal fucking noise. Just a big middle finger at the end. Nothing ominous like "Faaip de Oaid" or "Disgustipated." Just outside noises. Wasn't even on a field microphone; sounds like someone left their phone outside.
The closer tracks used to foreshadow the next album. But not this time, because there ain't one coming. Saturn (the bringer of old age) is returning to the exact same place in its 29 year orbit where it was when the band was first formed. "Mockingbeat" is a reference to the days when Maynard worked at pet shops before Tool. They have come full circle.

>you can put songs from Lateralus and 10k Days together and they fit perfectly. About to go try Descending with the Parabol/a suit
oh look, it's these bs theories again. yawn

To be fair, Faaip de Oaid and Lost Keys do fit together perfectly, the latter ends right when the nurse in Lost Keys starts talking.

That's very poetic, and it does make me hate the track less, but I feel it wasn't communicated well through the actual track. If you hadn't said it, I might never have known. Thank you, though.

T-T-That h-has to be a joke right...?

Lost Keys into Rosetta stoned is still my favorite transition

Not Parabol into Parabola? I don't disagree, I'm just surprised is all.

oh ya, 2nd then

thats a tough one. i think lost keys/rosetta stoned is better but parabol parabola has the better transition

Those are good but my personal favorite is still Intermission into Jimmy.

I have no idea how this album is doing so well on metacritic user ratings and rym. I feel like I have already seen nothing but negative shit about the album here and even on the youtube comments if you sort to new.

Yeah. Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned is my favorite Tool song. Perhaps I should lay off the DMT.
Also, there is another one of those "sync 2 tracks on top of each other". Supposedly you can sync 10,000 days, Wings For Marie, and Viginti Tres together.
I think I may have to agree, if we exclude Rosetta Stoned.

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true, Tool and Pink Floyd love their transitions
any other bands with good transitions?

> I feel like I have already seen nothing but negative shit about the album here
There have been waves of excessive bashing and over the top praise it here, you probably just saw a bashing cycle.

it's boring and stupid, give it a miss - Yahtzee

this album was a huge let down, it felt like they were jamming the whole time. aimless and boring.

So we've got an extradimensional being accessed through DMT use that tells parabols similar to those of the Book of Lies, implying it is a deceiver. All this as a literal tempest is about to hit the US, due to leave on the 7th.

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I thought Korn had good transitions on Issues and See You on the Other Side. Then again, I'm someone who likes Korn.

a few really good tracks, a good album, but mostly just kind of mediocre for tool. the problem isn't that the album sucks, just that at some point it is impossible to follow up albums like aenima and lateralus with something that will satisfy everyone.

After giving t a few listens, I don’t think I’ll be going back to it frequently. Descending isdecent, Fear Inoculum is decent, pneuma is alright but for the most part there’s nothing this album has to offer. Good for them to release it, but it’s a meh/10.

I got issues at a flee market, it was the alt cover. I was pissed the first time I riped it to my phone because it skipped in some parts

Kamelot has done some pretty well. I especially like the transition from Elizabeth 2 to Elizabeth 3.

Which alt cover? I always like the doll one the best. Follow the Leader was their biggest commercial success, but I thought they peaked at Issues. Not one song on there I don't like. Leader, that's got a couple skips for me.

rigged "professional" reviews?

The one with the band as dolls in a asylum

the extra digital tracks are such garbage

imagine being this much of a faggot
this is why music sucks today
like what would it actually feel like to be this guy and say something like that
im so happy ill never know

Based tool. Had the most anticipated album on earth and they pleb filtered the fuck out of everyone and released the least accessible album of the past decade.
Metalheads
Progger
Noisy avant garde experimentalists
Rockers
Poppers
Rapers
= all Fainted

>revelant
truly the most brilliant band of all time

with most brilliant website

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Everyone is so butt troubled all they could think to do is just start spreading heinous rumours about child rape and sex magick rituals. Tool just pwn'd the world.

The 5 stages of Fear Inoculum
>wow this is good it's new Tool it'll grow on me for sure hehehe
>what the fuck is this shit I'm on a 10th repeat and it didn't get better it's dull it's repetitive it's boring
>I mean okay Danny is insane and Adam is trying but you can't really hear Justin and Maynard is getting old
>fuck me, have I really been waiting 13 years for this? I thought it would be so much better
>I'm learning to like it, it's not like I have anything else to listen to anyway, hey some riffs are good and it's great for putting in the background

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EBA to The Patient and Intension to Right in Two are the best transitions.

I do wish Justin wasn't so buried in the mix. That is annoying.

Yeah pretty much this.

Culling Voices 8:14 - where the fuck is the Maynard jammed-toe scream?

fucking kikes

AOTY

Sober is about an artist friend who can only paint while fucked up.

Where is Maynard? There is now yelling or screaming in this album he's always just singing with effects. He got angry in previous albums and I don't feel anger.

Money shot was 4 years ago...

It's not a transition per se, but the way Reflection contains Disposition absolutely blew my mind when i first heard it.

He's written one confirmed song about hating his fans, possibly has at least 3 more by my count. Any interview makes it clear that Maynard hates his fans. Therefore there's evidence that Maynard mostly writes lyrics from experience

>Reflection contains Disposition
What do you mean?

The main melody of Disposition is the solo of Reflection, it's only a small part, but they're supposed to be related

And how many awesome transitions are there on $CURRENT_ALBUM?

wut

Maynard has a nice ass

Go listen to them in sequence.

I'm actually doing this right now. Listen to Reflection first?

>Adam just has no creativity in his riffs
>DUDE THESE SONGS ARE RELATED, I SWEAR

Holy shit you're right but it's played WAY lower and slower.

wow that is really fucking cool

No, Disposition first
It's a reflection my dude
Yeah I absolutely lost my mind when I first realized it.

Are you nuts? CCT is spectacular. If you don't like shit like that, why are you even buying a Tool album?

I like Tool but the interludes are all like "lol synths r cool! xD"

>chocolate chip is so out of place
No, almost the entire rest of the album is out of place to CCT.

post yfw when Invincible at 9:35

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>Mockingbeat
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERy-99vXxnM

>expecting anything but synths
It's like you actually just jumped back on the bandwagon after 13 years

What did they mean by this?

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Its obvious they made the tracks disconnected this time around so streaming wont fuck you up (e.g. by playing just parabol and then something else)
That being said Litanie contre la peur > Invincible > Descending > Culling voices flows very well imo

Thats sort of the point. Tool used to be 4 angry young men. Now it's 4 content aging fathers. Had it been another bunch of angry songs, there would have been no growth. Hell, they started down this path with 10k days, and that was 13 years ago.

>Gaping Lotus Experience
>Disgustipated
>Useful Idiot
>Message to Harry Manback
>Intermission
>Die Eier von Satan
>Cesaro Summability
>(-) Ions
>Message to Harry Manback II
>Merkaba
>LAMC
>Eon Blue Apocalypse
>Mantra
>Faaip de Oiad
>Lipan Conjuring
>Viginti Tres
How many of these "non-standard" tracks are basically just a few minutes of synths?

each band member is more jewy than the last

>we will never have albums with seguing tracks because of muh streaming
huh ok

handsome boys

>Lost Keys (Blame Hoffmann)
Forgot that one, it's also one of the tracks from the segues/segue-like/weirdo category

>Not having Danny at the far right with the most powerful fractal
I have no idea. I'm baffled.

You know that the actual question probably pertains to the superimposed geometrical patterns rather than the portraits themselves

>most powerful fractal
>some triangles with eyes are part of the Koch curve
also
>Tool discovers fractals in 2019, almost 40 years after they were introduced, even though they would fit into their artwork design very well since at least 20 years earlier

After all the album is about how fearless you are when you are old and sitting on millions

So relatable!

listening right now, just got to 7empest, which is rocking pretty good so far.
So far my thoughts on tha main songs are:
7empest > Invincible > Pneuma > Culling > Descending > Fear but I'll need to listen again to hammer these thoughts down. Some of these songs really faded together on the first listen and nothing so far has been really WOW like songs were on previous albums. I'm thinking this is a 6.5/10 album. Chocolate Chip Trip is non ironically good though

only song that really stuck out for me first listen was pneunma, and it's growing on me with each listen. the other tracks are good, think they'll grow on me, too.

Queensrÿche's "Operation Mindcrime" on literally almost every track

Pnuema is the first TOOL song ever which has made me feel genuine joy. The bongo fiesta at ~6:00 is something special.

Bird noises hahah

Polar opposite reaction, literally:
single:
>wtf? this sucks. it's dull and sounds like early APC
leak/release (not counting segues):
>meh, it's not great, but some of this is okay
>maynard singing sort of fits better in these other tracks
>oh shit, i'm humming the melody and chords
>i can't stop listening to this

>it's all subject to taste.
Isn't that all music in general?

Bass has always been supressed by tools mixing

Only good tracks on the album are Descending, Culling Voices, and Chocolate Chip Trip.

Descending and Culling Voices have that post-rock/metal feel where they take a riff and endlessly loop it which sounds great unlike the rest of the album where its like 5 or 6 different riffs in a song and it sounds terrible.

Still have yet to listen to 7empest and mockingbeat though

make sure your cat is around for mockingbeat, it's top notch gusic

7empest - Descending - Invincible - Pneuma - Fear Inoculum - Culling Voices - Chocolate Chip Trip - Legion Inoculant - Mockingbeat - Litanie...

The climax of 7empest was certainly around 12:45 when Maynard began to sing in harmony with other vocal tracks of him

i like when Maynard says cookies and cream in 7empest

7empest
Culling Voices
Invincible
Descending
Chocolate Chip Trip
Fear Inoculum
Pneuma

>The closer tracks used to foreshadow the next album
How did Vigintri Tres foreshadow this new album exactly?

I wish I pre ordered the deluxe edition.

It's doing shit on rym

I've listened 2x. Does it get better? It just feels like a meandering bore so far

Issues is awesome but they've peaked with Untouchables. Everything that came after is garbage imo, including Serenity of Suffering

more like sleep innoculum

I fucking hate you guys. I get it's better than expected but worse than it could've been. That's my take. ESPECIALLY since the production is not as sharp

But

BUT

FI is not in any way better than 10k days. Are y'all nibbas dumb or sth.?? The pot, rosetta stoned and right in two alone are better than 7empest and descending which are the strongest songs from FI. Also, FI is NOT better than Aenima you plebs

Novice jew, apprentice jew, expert jew, master jew

By being a useless segue just as the useless segues on the new album?

their degree in masonry

I like it more and more
Invincible > Pneuma > Descending > FI > CCT > LI > Tempest > LCLP > Culling Voices > Mockingbeat

Like alcohol isn't the most deadly drug know to mankind.
> 88,000 in US each year
> 2.8 million worldwide

The Pot and Right in Two don't even come close to Descending, and Descending is giving Rosetta a run for its money in my own personal rankings.

Because of the Reflection synth?

>tfw the riff in Culling Voices at 7:10 is the same melody as the Reflection and Descending synth

I like the song structure a lot. The intro verse builds into the main song nicely, and like so many tool songs Maynard gets more and more desperate as the song progresses. Reminds me of swamp song. He sings the chorus of Descending nicely the first time and by the end of the third chorus he is shouting and the band is rocking hard behind him. The last verse and chorus is really fucking powerful imho.

{Disgustipated -> Aenima} and {Viginti Tres -> Fear Inoculum} are less obvious than {Third Eye -> Lateralus} and {Faaip de Oiad -> 10,000 Days}, but it's still there.

AOTY all I can say.

It's been over a week since the leak now. Has the album become noticeably better after many listens?

its their most consistent album. The songs are their longest and yet they never feel like a chore to get through. I always just listen from front to back, it seems weird to pick a single track from this album i duno why.

Anyways, i honestly feel like it could be their best album, its definitely in the conversation.

>Has the album become noticeably better after many listens?

It has gotten better, Invincible is amazing.

I simply don't get this shit, Yea Forums. The album is amazing, yet it is rated the same as fucking Opiate. I don't understand how one can love Lateralus and dislike FI so much, when they're very similar albums IMO, any of the songs in this album wouldn't look out of place in Lateralus.

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Guy you replied to
Descending is a song where Adam pours in ideas he had for the last 10 years. Still, FI has way less strong points than 10K days

I literally just came back from a long run and Invincible came on shuffle as the last song, and it was fucking incredible. Really slept on this song until now

During the Lateralus days the FI songs would be released in a more refined form and wouldn't be umphteen minutes long because reasons. Also, each of the Lateralus songs has more variety and dynamics than any of the FI songs.

yeah but lateralus had some of maynards best screams

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NIN Downard Spiral

It's not the guitar work that makes Descending great for me, although it is phenomenal work by Adam. It is the overall concept and execution by the band. It is supposed to be an apocalyptic call to arms I am guessing, and the music fits that narrative and drives the song exactly how I would expect it to. Rosetta Stoned is much the same except a very different topic of discussion but executed perfectly well yet again. I don't fuckin know bro, I liked 10k. I will have to give it some time to settle in before I can honestly judge them against each other.

>DUDE FREEMASONRY LMAO

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Haha this. My cat and Chihuahua were looking all over the room for Birdy Intruders and turning their heads. It was cute. Danny makes real godtier gusic.

This. Hooker with a penis is the most petty song ever. Some young fan really triggered Maynard by calling him a sell-out.

Because they're musical plebs who only know the minor pentatonic scale.

It’s pretty good. Easily their weakest album, though.

With that said, Descending is probably a Top 5 song they’ve done.

They're masons i.e. jew puppets.

first 10 of the year

meh

Lol all you people are so transparent. If Soen released this shit everyone would be fawning over it as the greatest progressive metal album of the 2010s but because it's a popular band with an irritating fanbase you're unable to evaluate the music on its own terms and are reacting to how you think you're supposed to when Tool release a new album.

There is a lot going on in the arrangements that takes time to unfold. There is repetition but variety in each of the repeats. Plenty of bands release these sorts of albums where songs seem almost like extended jam sessions (most recent Darkthrone had some stuff like this) and people fawn over how great it is. But Tool come along and put out a post metal album that mops the floor with bands like Pelican, Russian Circles or whatever else is doing the "let's play one riff forever" sort of metal and all of a sudden people are upset because they aren't writing radio friendly hits.

lol the album is trash and it sounds like they've played these songs together like 3 times before.

But Soen are shit.

How do I know your IQ approaches one of a seashell

that would be a thing that prevents sleep and I can't be sure if you realized this or not

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Good to see the Invincichads here. The rest of the album has its moments too (especially Descending and 7empest) but I'd rather just put Invincible on repeat. Top 3 track from their discography for me.

Everything is contexual

If a retarded 6 year old draws something that resembles what a 30 yr old art major could draw, we would say it was great work

Tool is a very talented very good band and has some truly great songs. This album is good by other genre bands standards but is easily the weakest in their discography.

The songs were pointlessly long, Maynards vocals were noticeably absent and it didn't feel inspired. Even the juvenile "wah anal sex bro 3rd eye dmt aliens" stuff is enjoyable compared to this.

Descending is a good song

The odd timings remind me of Meshuggah if they were slow and melodic and not shit

youtube.com/watch?v=U4GXNzom6ik

imagine that played at about half speed or slower and it would sound similar to many of the riffy parts of FI

Bashing Trump huh? How fucking rote! Maybe Maynard can hook up with Corey Taylor for some ass sex while they fantasize about opening all the borders for every illegal alien or Mudslime to scurry in wherever they damn well please. Hey, it's not enough to shit up and ruin their own countries, why not let the scum freely destroy the remaining civilized places on Earth too!

playing the same riff over and over for 8 minutes with a few variations isn't progressive or interesting, it's fucking lazy and boring

Descending has to be my favorite. That one was a fucking RIDE
Where's your merch boys?

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damn, i hope Deftones dont shit the bed as much as Tool did with the new album. FI is fucking wack

The song contains no mention of politics whatsoever, not even so much as an overt metaphor, yet people think it's about trump. It's like a Rorschach song and when retards hear it and they think about boogyman literally hitler Trump. The lyrics are vague enough to be about any person who lies. Maynard probably wrote that song about a hotel maid who stole his buttplug, or maybe possibly music industry jews.

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Can’t decide between 7empest and Descending desu they’re the best tracks on the album for me
Also pic related is one of the shirts I own

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>mfw i waited 13 years for A.P.C album
Tempest is only halfway there
Like a slow hand job, it's ok but will never reach climax

It applies to Trump. He's talked in interviews about Trump using similar terminology. "Tempest" is a response to "storm." He and Madonna apparently go to the same church.
It's also about us, here on this website.

they sound like Nirvana now. Was that on purpose?

I don't think so but this album is a huge refresher for their previous works.

Tool's new album came in the right time and place where Rock/Metal is dying out.

>where Rock/Metal is dying out
the fuck? pleb much?

>maynard interview
It's almost like you haven't been paying attention for the last 25 years of maynard fucking with retarded "journalists".

youtube.com/watch?v=Q7XPVlpxSm4

Rap killing everything topping charts and taking over soundcloud while Rock/Metal fade away like it's nothing.

*sigh*
youtube.com/watch?v=qVjqM58dhQE

I'm not listening to him ramble for 10 minutes so just tell me what part he says that tempest is about trump so I can skip to it

It disproves your retarded deflection about how Maynard has apparently never expressed a real opinion during an interview, but please do continue being the most obvious and retarded shill possible, as I wouldn't want people to forget those exist.

Overall, it's great. I don't get people moaning about how they haven't changed their sound. Their argument is basically "this album by Tool sucks because it sounds like it's Tool." Anyone who is actually a fan of Tool wouldn't use this as a criticism, since every Tool fan I know is embracing that familiar, distinctive style that only Tool can pull off.

Invincible will go down as one of their classic songs, and 7empest and Pneuma are both as good as Tool are at their best.

Rare for a band to release five superb albums in a row, but Tool have done it.

>that familiar, distinctive style that only Tool can pull off

Allow me to rebuke that with the following:

youtube.com/watch?v=I5HFRFEtej4

Heyyyy now you're thinking

I look forward to learning what secrets were contained in this album. They had a long time to come up with loopy ideas.. I'd be more surprised if nothing of that sort had happened.

It's amazing. Really what I needed from Tool in 2019. Album gets better after every listen. I don't care what others say

Amazing album, much better than expected. Some poeple have complained about the overall lack of vocals, or the abundance of instrumental parts. However, it seems that the vocals are the weakest link in the record.

The guitars, bass and drums are all at top performance. But the lacks soundd lazy, uninspired, falling into a safe note wiwth very little movement or exploration too many times.

While the band overall shows maturity and ell developed craftmanship, the vocals show tiredness and old age. Maybe Maynard should stick to wine makaing now.

>Everything is contexual
>If a retarded 6 year old draws something that resembles what a 30 yr old art major could draw, we would say it was great work
that's... literally proof that everything is not contextual

I think I may have the insight you're looking for; also, I really like this post you made.

My band (currently still in initial writing phase) has a song called Father's Day in which I sing first from the perspective of my step-dad, who physically/etc abused me, and second from the perspective of my biological dad, who was neglectful of me. It's sung in first person, acknowledging what they're doing while they're doing it, both of their turning to substances to handle their overall life pain and guilt, and the refrain is a line exhibiting an understanding of them knowing they're failing. Me singing it makes it sound like I'm saying I'm abusing my kid, but I don't even have a kid.

Maynard may have suffered such consequence. His distance from everyone and everything seems easily explainable by at least horrible parenting, particularly one or two bad ones as he does seem extremely fond of his mother. I get this as well, because my mother, I felt, was my only parent, and although she is the reason I was introduced to both men, she also was the only one who helped me recover from the pain they inflicted. (..seems like I should write a song about that)

I don't think Maynard is actually the aggressor in these situations, no. I think he's occasionally writing from that perspective for artsy purposes. If you listen to the tone he takes on in 4°, it sounds intentionally villainous. My interpretation is that the discomfort you feel hearing that perspective is intentional. Any victim can whine/complain/vent/express their pain and sorrows (so to speak), but this flip of perspective makes a much more unfamiliar, and in my opinion stronger, sentiment.

Tempest is indeed about Trump. About how much Maynard loves Trump and how based he is. Maynard absolutely hates sissy libtards, and he supports Trump 100%. Although he might be an accelerationist and not a MAGA fag.

Gets better every listen, every song

The whole last section of that song is brutal. Definitely my favorite part of the album.

>alternativenation.net/maynard-james-keenan-makes-terrible-heroin-revelation/

Did you even read this article? He's comparing social media to drug use. Not even an edgy opinion anymore, we already knew that.

>10:52

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Dream Theater, too, man

Both have a really high percentage of great songs

I think this is some shit. I've said this for years, that Tool has waited too long and now other bands have since come along and pushed the genre further like Tool used to do, and so now when Tool actually makes a new album, it's all stuff we've already heard and is generally just unfulfilling. I wish I wasn't saying this, given it's been 13 years but it's honestly disappointing.

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I thought the same and the more I listen fear and culling get better

Kudos

Oh I am actually listening to aenima now

You know how some people think stinkfist is literally about fistfucking? Kind of a similar deal here. I've heard its a metaphor for religiour indoctrination.

Head down, hands bound, eyes closed, throat wide open -> could be a young inpressionable person praying and then the person goes on to do the eaxt thing themself to their kids. The only literal part is "blood cum and shit on my hands" and even that (knowing any other mentions of religion/faith up until 10K days) could just be a really crass way of addressing the bible.

Dude did not chill out about his moms faith for the longest fucking time. idk if I necessarily fall into that camp, but I thought it was an interesting take.

Unless you're all over the internet, I've seen a few people say this, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what y'all mean. How would releasing a "bad" album benefit them legally?

only good album

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Do illegal drugs faggot

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I had that CD single

For what its worth, I have 13 years with a clear head.

[email protected]

I wont waste your time with some religious BS, but if you're still in the thread and want someone to talk to about it I might be able to help. My dumbass did it so Im sure yours can.

Kek?

Do you know the meaning of context?

No, but you will have to listen to it more than once.

Anger is a pervasive element of their lives, so they play it often. You ever make music?

Alright, I'm done reading stuff and I'm not even halfway through the thread, meaning no one's gonna read down to this part but fuck it, I wanna share too

My friend introduced me to post-metal about three months ago. Without that, I wouldn't really get this album. The excruciating pounding drilling trudging feeling you get listening to it is intentional.

>if metal is not on the billboards then the genre is dying
good bait

t. fatty

Isn't H. about the birth of his son, and him not wanting to be a fuckup father to him like his fater/step-father was to him?

if you would judge the work of 6 year old and a 30 year old art major the same way then that shows you aren't looking at context

H is about Maynard getting assraped when he was a boy

Pretty sure it's about the birth of Maynard's son, Devo H. Keenan.

Surely to an exstent that’s good with music it’s about the feeling and engagement not the intellectual appreciation.

Triad is the best Tool song
youtube.com/watch?v=JAzLQ5aeAOw

Yes and "the snake" are the voices in his head reminding him about what happened to him when he was a boy

I thought that was obvious?

>sit back and drink to (since I don’t do drugs)
You mean you don't do ILLEGAL drugs

>>i was told the label might do another run limited ones and then offer cds
I hope so.

literally me