Redpill me on Ibanez RG guitars. I'm thinking of buying one

Redpill me on Ibanez RG guitars. I'm thinking of buying one.

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The Wizard neck is great, but S-type body is comfier.

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I hear theyre great for metal and the like.
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Do not pick up guitar. It's not the mid-2000s anymore.
Get into synthesis. Stay ahead of the curve.
If you ever want a guitar sound, you can just sculpt it with modelling software.

All the cool kids play ibanez.

Literally, every decent gutiarist in recent memory plays an ibanez except for losers like the lead guitarist of nightwish.

Synths died, they're washed up, an overused tool of the industry for people trying to recapture mid-2000s rave and rap. Guitar is alive again now that people realize it doesn't have to be the most popular instrument in the world, it doesn't have to be the only lead instrument in the world, you don't need 5 minute "solos" that sound like mediocre improvisation in recorded music, and that you don't need every single teenager buying one solely because they want to be a rock star.

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loser

guitars are actually synth controllers

You realise guitar is like one of the most versatile instruments ever right?
You do realise synth guitar tones and pre amps all sound absolutely horrendous right?
You do realise guitar is one of the most universal instruments ever, maybe just behind piano and drums and can be used in pretty much every genre of music?
Might as well tell people to stop playing all instruments.

You are fucking stupid.

it absolutely is the best it's been since at least the 80s
>Oh Sees
>Gizzard
>Tame Impala
>Stonefield
three bands releasing 10s from one subgenre alone, I won't pretend to be an expert on metal or surf or whatever but I'm sure there's great bands coming out there too

Which genre is the electric guitar most closely associated with? Classical?

yes
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Just because you can name a few indie pop bands doesn't mean the guitar is still in its golden days.
Mainstream music hasn't been dominated by guitars since the fall of grunge. It's been bleeps ever since.

Uhh it's literally used everywhere even in the latest taylor swift and arianna grande albums

So? Mainstream music has never been good and is not intended to be good. Mainstream music is what normies who can't name three artists listen to on the radio in a noisy car. Keep your bleepshit for the lowest common denominator who lap it up.

The 'actual trends' are as follows:
- Synthesis and modelling software continues to get stronger with time.
- The music industry is beginning to lose focus on acoustic instruments in favor of electronic production.
- Electronic production offers a hell of a lot more flexibility, versatility, control and precision than acoustic instruments do or ever could.
- Your argument is invalid.

The guitar is used on those works sparsely. That doesn't mean it's focused on the guitar's elements.
The guitar is becoming an increasingly peripheral and insignificant element. An accessory.

You can make trap and EDM from watching a few youtube tutorials and messing around on FL for a couple hours

>doood future dooood
>muh industry
Yes, if you want to make the generic backing track for the next Lil Niggy top hit, you should learn to use a synth. If you want to make music, you should get a guitar.

Artistic electronic music is a completely dead dried up well except for a few trannies, you know this lol

You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded. Spend more time listening to music and less time studying your highschool debate cheat sheet. Nobody cares if you think their argument is valid. There isn't a fucking English 160 teacher inspecting our rhetoric. Kill yourself, dumb nigger.

Kind regards,

Fine. Ignore the trends. Stay blind to where things are obviously headed. Find yourself in four decades struggling to find anything that still uses acoustic instruments. Remain stubborn.
I don't care.

My advice for OP is: Do not invest in a dying meme. Go for the things that are in their springs. Head down the electronic route.

You can make punk and open-chord ballads from watching a few youtube tutorials and messing around with a guitar for a couple hours.
If you put zero effort into anything, you'll get nothing of interest back. Obviously.

>No argument.

>No argument.

>No argument.

>thinks others are ignoring trends
>is completely oblivious to the massive growth of independent music
the industry is irrelevant unless you want to work in a sweatshop making vapid chartbait

If you think learning an instrument is a career investment, you don't actually care about music anyways

>MUH ARGOOMENT MUN ARGOOMENT
dumb

nigger

kill

yourself

that is an argument, you are a dumb nigger, I present your posts as evidence, and the propose solution is kill yourself

qed bitch

No that's not why I'm making that argument
You continuosly go on about muh industry bleeps
The industry's bleeps are trap and edm
Experimental electronic music is completely dead
If you wanna make trap and edm then fine dude, but it's something you can pick up at any time in your life and become great at it in a couple of months

I’m a guitarist, but this is massive cope lmao

Stop giving him actual replies, he just wants to masturbate to his highschool debate class handouts while ignoring your points.

I'm black but trump IS your president lmao

Do both faggot. I also play a bass as well.

guitar is the perfect instrument, what's not to like
you can memorize chords and scales with extremely simple shapes
the tuning forces the shapes to naturally create deep sounding chords spanning multiple octaves
all you have to do to change keys is move the shapes over a few frets
you can memorize the root notes of all the chord shapes and play fucking anything just with that information, chord substitutions and extensions become the easiest thing in the world
pedal effects do everything else
then you can change the tuning and explore completely different harmonies just like that
the only thing that's missing is a true MIDI output

Independent music isn't nearly as popular as you think it is.
And I never said anything about it being a career investment. It's just that the guitar has been exhausted and it's time to move on.
Eventually, you will find that everything you could do on a guitar has been done before and you will find yourself at a creative wall, whereas electronic music has a wealth of creative ideas that remain yet untapped.
As for the vapid chartbait remark, you and a few others in this thread (like ) seem to associate electronic instruments with nothing but bland low-effort EDM and fail to consider the idea that synthesis can be used for much, much more.
But you'll find that out later.

>Still no argument.

This is valid. There's no reason why you shouldn't do both, for now.
But as time marches on, the reasons to pick up stringed instruments like guitar will lessen.

Do it but make sure you get a japanese made one. check the serials
If its well used, you can always upgrade the pickups.
They have easy swap out pickups, you can refit most high end DiMarzio's in a basic RG Ibanez

>Find yourself in four decades struggling to find anything that still uses acoustic instruments
that's exactly what some retards were saying in 1979
t. boomer

Why are you obsessed with popularity? Are you really that dense? There are 7 billion people in the world. 5 billion of them are connected to the internet. If 1% of the world wants to listen to "guitar music", you're producing for an audience of 50 million people. The internet makes the industry irrelevant. I'll repeat myself, since you can't read. If you want to make a "career" out of vapid backing tracks for the next Lil Niggy, synths are fine. If you want to make music you like, pick an instrument you like. Your potential audience is measured in tens of millions regardless.
>b-b-but synths make gud moosic tooo!!!
As part of a band, nigger.

No, you're a complete idiot, I already aknowledged you can try and make your artistic muh textures type shit which has been done since the 60s and produced nothing worth-listening
The fact that the industry sells trap and edm is regarding YOUR argument that the only thing relevant in the industry are bleeps

Not an argument.

>guitar is the perfect instrument, what's not to like
It's far too limited. You're limited to only six simultaneous notes at a time. You have to retune the entire instrument just to play certain notes. If you fuck up your performance, you have to just start a new take over. Sonically, its flexibility reaches far, but only so far.
It has its vulnerabilities.
>you can memorize chords and scales with extremely simple shapes
So? This applies to most instruments.
>the tuning forces the shapes to naturally create deep sounding chords spanning multiple octaves
Nothing you're saying here doesn't also apply to electronic music.
>all you have to do to change keys is move the shapes over a few frets
Yeah, unless the chords have open strings in which case you'll need a capo. If you don't have a capo, you're out of luck.
>you can memorize the root notes of all the chord shapes and play fucking anything just with that information, chord substitutions and extensions become the easiest thing in the world
Stop listing things you like about guitar. It isn't relevant.
>pedal effects do everything else
The irony here.
"Anything the guitar can't do (which is a lot) can be supplemented by electronic elements!"
>then you can change the tuning and explore completely different harmonies just like that
It's not "just like that," tuning takes a bit.
>the only thing that's missing is a true MIDI output
Electronic music doesn't have this problem.

Nobody was saying that in 1979 because the guitar was still reaching its cultural peak in that era.

>nobody was saying synths would replace guitar in 1979
are you aware of literally the entire 1980s existing

of course not, you don't listen to or make music, you jack off to your modular synth collection and disregard anyone who disagrees

Not an argument. Try again.

what if I told you synthesizers don't have to have keys or be played by keys

>Why are you obsessed with popularity? Are you really that dense?
Popularity is a good indication of where things are headed. I personally don't care for pop music, but I use it as a sort of weather vane for which tools are becoming prominent and which tools are nearing retirement.
>There are 7 billion people in the world. 5 billion of them are connected to the internet. If 1% of the world wants to listen to "guitar music", you're producing for an audience of 50 million people. The internet makes the industry irrelevant. I'll repeat myself, since you can't read. If you want to make a "career" out of vapid backing tracks for the next Lil Niggy, synths are fine. If you want to make music you like, pick an instrument you like. Your potential audience is measured in tens of millions regardless.
You've said nothing of worth in that entire paragraph.
>>b-b-but synths make gud moosic tooo!!!
>As part of a band, nigger.
I'm done talking to you now. You're not even trying anymore.

>The fact that the industry sells trap and edm is regarding YOUR argument that the only thing relevant in the industry are bleeps
You haven't yet considered that a lot of the people making low-effort pop music are only in it for the money. I'm only considering creative wealth, not financial wealth.
It's just factual that there's a lot more that you can do in a DAW with a shitload of plugins than a single guitar.
It's simply a more worthwhile investment in that regard.

>No argument.

I never said they do.

>popularity is a good indication of where things are headed
Uh how many years have you lived on this earth? Are you 9 years old?

>No argument.

So you literally cannot understand how numbers work, but think I'm the one "not even trying".

Let me explain this in simple terms even someone as obviously challenged as you can understand. There are many people now. These people have internet. That means literally any niche you can think of will have both content and consumers. People listen to sun o))). People listen to Jethro Tull. Millions of people. And they will keep listening to what they like. No matter what instrument you play, there will literally be tens of millions of people interested in it. So why the fuck are you so mindlessly obsessed with what's popular? Popularity OBJECTIVELY DOES NOT MATTER when even unpopular genres HAVE MILLIONS OF FANS. You do not have a cap to your audience size. Play the fucking flute if you like it. Unless you want to get into chartbait, trying to "make it big" is irrelevant. Small is big now. Is this hard for you? Can you wrap your tiny fucking brain around this?

No, nigger, "muh argooment" is not an argument. He's right, and you're wrong, and you're disregarding him outright because he broke the rules on your fucking highschool debate sheet. THAT is not an argument.

Fads come and go in the blink of an eye, would you have predicted that trap, a genre that's been made in the south of america since the early 90s, would blow up in the mid 2010s and start declining only 3 years later?

You're missing the point of what I've been saying entirely.
I haven't been saying that we should all only be doing what the most popular musical acts in the world do. I'm saying that we should constantly be hunting for original ideas and that the guitar's limitations make it much harder to do so.
Popularity is only a vague hint; a gauge of where to go next.

You still haven't proposed an argument here.

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Why do you keep mentioning trap?
Electronic instruments aren't limited only to that specific subgenre.

Because it's what popular you braindead retard

No, nigger. You don't get to claim "no argument no argument!" and then literally ignore the argument you're presented with.
>I'm saying that we should constantly be hunting for original ideas and that the guitar's limitations make it much harder to do so.
Baseless, unsupported claim. Not an argument.
>Popularity is only a vague hint; a gauge of where to go next.
Baseless, unsupported claim debunked in the post you quoted. Not an argument.

Popularity is irrelevant. I posted an argument as to why. You ignored this and repeated your unsubstantiated claims and outright opinions. That is not an argument.

No one's mentioned trap so far but you.
Trap is a dying fad but that's not necessarily an indication that electronic instruments are, if that's what you're implying, because electronic instruments dominate so many other factions.

>popularity isn't important when it supports someone else's arguments
>popularity "tells us where to go"
Holding both these positions simultaneously is inconsistent and fallacious.

ok and EDM is a dying fad too
RnB and neo soul are the only genres left that seem like they have a future in the mainstream now, and both often employ the basic band set up of drums, guitar, synth, bass, vocalist

& trap has been around for fucking ever. listen to old outkast albums from the 1990s

zoomers can't invent anything original to define the current era. its all borrowed shit from the past. this applies the most to zoomer music.

>You don't get to claim "no argument no argument!" and then literally ignore the argument you're presented with.
You've been doing exactly that and you even proceeded to do exactly that in the same post this sentence was attached to. I'm beginning to thing talking to you has been a waste of effort.

You're staring at a smaller thread in the larger tapestry. Overall, electronic elements are seeing a meteoric rise and while trap is dying, electronic instruments are still experiencing that rise.
I never said popularity wasn't important. I just said it wasn't quite as important on a base level as some people in this thread have made it out to be.

You still haven't responded to the actual argument posted. You don't want to argue, you want to dismiss. I've been doing the same thing to you, it's taken a while for you to notice. I've been doing it because you don't deserve better if you won't actually argue. You've posted and restated your opinions, and given vague justifications for dismissing any dissent. That's not an argument. If you want to keep posting "not an argument" over and over, I will hold you to the coals and make damn sure every sentence you type is consistent, logical, and non-fallacious. You can't manage that, so I get to simply dismiss all your posts. Isn't that fun? It's what you do to everyone else, why do you expect better?

Why would you think RnB and neo soul are the only genres left that have a future in the mainstream? That's such a weird selection.

Not an argument.

same person talking to themselves becuase they lost their meds. time to see the doctor again desu

>schizo projects schizoid delusions on others
shoo shoo, schizo

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Kek how is it weird in any way, RnB is the only thing that tops the charts anymore besides trap and the ed sheeran hit here and there, and neo soul has been gaining a lot of traction and seemingly growing fast in popularity with artists like tyler and frank ocean
What is more likely than this? You're more out of touch with the mainstream than you accuse the guitarists in this thread

i just posted this to myself
wtf?

Fender™ is the only company that makes good guitars

>wtf why am I hallucinating
because you are schizo

i used to have one and i love metal, it was really awesome. Then it got stolen by junkies :(

You're right, it's not an argument. It was a simple question which you haven't answered.

true and still not an argument

it's almost as if responding "not an argument" to things like questions and insults is stupid and annoying, as if someone was trying to show you that you're a sperg by sperging back in the same way

>pointing out non-arguments as non-arguments is bad

That sucks.

is right.
There is no reason to learn a 'real instrument' when computers can mimic the sound of any 'real instrument' out there. Why stick to one guitar when you could have a guitar, bass, tuba, French horn, trumpet, violin, cello, piano and all kinds of other shit that doesn't even exist wrapped up in one little laptop?

They literally can't mimic it, it all sounds terrible

if it's very clearly not an argument, like calling you an autistic nigger, and you still feel like pointing out how calling you an autistic nigger is not an argument, all you've done is prove your autistic niggery

I am telling you to tone down the sperg level, that is not an argument, that is an angry comment about board quality and autism

Yea Forums is not a highschool debate class, the vast majority of posts are not arguments and this does not need autisticaly pointed out at every turn

furthermore you tend to completely disregard any argument with any flaw or who's premise you disagree with, which is in itself fallacious as a red herring, if I make a well thought out post about the size of niche audiences making popularity irrelevant to success and call you an autistic nigger anyways, it is indeed an argument

Except a guitar can still be used as a synth input device so it's all just autistic reeing about keys versus strings

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Idk, I don't think a lot of people would be able to tell recordings of audio modelled horns from real horns apart nowadays.

I actually didn't write that post but I do agree with it. There's no reason one shouldn't be allowed to point out non-arguments if they're being presented as an argument. I'm not bothered by it and I don't see why you should be.

Lmao

There's really no point in using a guitar solely as a synth input device because of its physical limitations.

There is no reason to do anything apart from sit at your laptop until you die of old age. I mean, you've got everything on the internet and in software. Why would you literally do anything ever?

but i already posted this

>if they're presented as an argument
Sure but he was replying "not an argument" to being called autistic for replying "not an argument" to everything. At that point it stops being about arguments and starts being about autism. You should also say WHY you don't think something's an argument if it's an actual effortpost, instead of using it as a glorified "nuh uh".

1. Learn guitar
2. Get natural guitar tune and things that are harder for a synth to replicate like slides and palm mutes
3. If you want additional instruments you can use a synthesizer to emulate them with input already familiar to you
Of course learning to use a keyboard is better for all instruments but if you're primarily going to be making guitar music then an actual guitar is your best bet

Really solid guitar with good pricing options across the board. Great tonal variety too, and most of the RGs can come in a hardtail or floyd with any and all popular pickup combinations.

That's not really a defense of 'real instruments'. That's just you getting pissy cuz you don't like laptops or some shit.

It's not meant as a defence. It's just a line of thought that your comment is moving towards. Where exactly do you draw the line? If laptops can do everything (and I've seen this argument), why learn anything and do it a different way? If somebody wants to play guitar, let them play guitar. I'll play the fucking harpsichord if I want to.

>Where exactly do you draw the line?
you should only do things that can't be done on a laptop

Your "arguments" so far have consisted of:
1.) Calling me an autistic nigger.
2.) Naming popular musical acts that use guitars.

I'm not that guy but you still haven't replied to my argument

Why?
>muh versatility
99% of synth music is bleep bloop. The versatility is very rarely used. The only genre to use synths extensively to emulate esoteric instruments was progressive rock, which also used guitars. It's also an imperfect replica of a guitar, not a replacement.

I posted this () which you promptly ignored. I'll give you your chance at redemption, though. If even 1% of the world listens to a genre, then you have a potential audience of over 50 million people on the internet. In light of this, how is popularity relevant in the slightest? No matter what you make, from harsh noise to smooth jazz to psych to chiptunes, you can be a successful musician. So why do you push synths so hard? Your only argument has been popularity and you never responded to my argument as to popularity's irrelevance.

also forgot to add you're an autistic nigger sorry my mistake

Why? It's not the same experience even if a laptop could reproduce something in an almost identical fashion.

It also STRONGLY limits your ability to perform live unless you just want to do vocals over your premade tracks. You can't do impromptu jams during a concert if you're one fat guy on a synth layering half a dozen tracks.

>99% of synth music is bleep bloop. The versatility is very rarely used.
This lmao. Every time a laptopfag tells me I should just fuck around the computer instead of experiencing music by learning new instruments and playing with other people, their own music is anything but versatile.

Looking at the Billboard Hot 100, I'm seeing Shawn Mendez, Billie Eilish, Lizzo, Lil Nas X, Lil Tecca, Khalid, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber and Post Malone.
Nothing there outside of maybe Chris Brown really screams "RnB" or "neo soul" at me.

>Beiber
excuse me what

synthboys wish they were prog but just make backing tracks for nogs lmao #sickburn

>No matter what you make, from harsh noise to smooth jazz to psych to chiptunes, you can be a successful musician. So why do you push synths so hard?
There's the misunderstanding; I'm not viewing this from a career standpoint. I'm not saying you should only get into music solely to become successful or get rich.
I'm noticing a pattern and the pattern is that a lot of popular genres are being flooded with electronic elements. The reason that's relevant is because it indicates an emerging sphere that hasn't yet been occupied. It allows for more experimentation that way, and is therefore just more fun.
Making electronic music is simply more fun because there's a lot to do that hasn't yet been done.

>popular genres
>experimentation
Somehow I doubt your predictions.

I picked up guitar in January 2005 so that means I get a pass for life baby.

Nah, there's no experimentation left in electronic music, everything's been done already

I never said pop music was in itself experimental.
Pop music morphing is only the result of people swarming to a new area and the pop music itself is just the top of the top of the top of that.

>an emerging sphere that hasn't been occupied
But this isn't true, synth genres have been around for years and there's a large number of bands/artists dedicated to it. You aren't jumping into a brave new world of digital sound, you're jumping into an existing community of thousands of artists all doing similar things with the same instrument.
>more to do that hasn't been done
You sound like that 1900s Swiss patent officer who claimed everything that could be done had been done.

I know you didn't say that, but you mentioned there's a lot of electronic elements in popular music (which is right) and that it will allow for experimentation and doing things that have not yet been done. The last part was the one I didn't see happening.
>Pop music morphing is only the result of people swarming to a new area and the pop music itself is just the top of the top of the top of that.
Maybe that's right, yeah, but then again even taking that into account I still don't rate electronic music's experimental potential as highly as you I guess.

I agree with this guy. I think you are overrating electronic music and underrating non-electronic music when it comes to experimentation; I think they're both more similar in reality. Electronic music isn't that young anymore.

Don't listen to this faggot, play whatever instrument you like

Strongly doubt that. There's a lot of exciting development in the world of electronic music.

>synth genres have been around for years and there's a large number of bands/artists dedicated to it.
I know but they're morphing and developing at an accelerated rate that outpaces most other genres which are either changing very slowly (because they're nearing their maximum capacity for potential) or have stagnated entirely.
Electronic music from a decade or two ago usually sounds way different than it currently does, but rock music often sounds timeless (ignoring recording quality and choice of effects) because there are only so many ways you can pluck strings.

Name some besides a few trannies doing glitch revival

You guys don't have to use personal insults to make a point.

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So you can say, "Well, a few examples don't mean shit," or dismiss them as garbage?

Why would you ignore choice of effects when it gives guitars almost as wide a range as a synth? You can get any tone from almost acoustic to an angry diesel engine from a guitar, you can create layers and shimmer, you can loop and distort, all in real time. Yes, you're technically "plucking strings", but that's like saying a synth is limited because there's only so many ways to press keys (and btw play style on a guitar can itself drastically change tone, from finger picking to fast strumming, with styles evoking anything from the spanish countryside to the renaissance to the gates of hell)

I think you're seriously underestimating the versatility of a guitar, because you don't want to acknowledge a power of the pedalboard.

>There's a lot of exciting development in the world of electronic music.
Like what? I'm genuinely interested. Can you name these developments/directions/artists? I'm not btw

Side note: Why have trannies infiltrated virtually everything involving computers?
Silicon Valley is comprised almost entirely of trannies. The first examples of experimental electronic music that people can think of are usually trannies. Even "programming socks" have become a /g/ meme.

please, I originally asked if the Ibanez RG was good and this thread got way too off topic
thx for helping me

Buy it if you play metal music otherwise stay away.

to give just a few examples, all of these are electric guitars
youtu.be/8XW8yofuGao
youtu.be/eeqGuaAl6Ic
youtu.be/UNilsLf6eW4
youtu.be/O8hf8HBeFSE

Im genuinely curious
When people talk about modern experimental electronic all they can point to is a couple of trannies ripping of autechre

Because they're incels that stare at their screens all day already

This just reminded me how I like the way guitar sounds and now I suddenly want to play guitar again after a few years.

I think texture is becoming an increasingly important aspect of most genres under the electronic umbrella, Sophie and Oneohtrix Point Never have been making a lot of interesting sounds in that aspect.
I've also seen a lot of musicians like Autechre and Brian Eno creating generative algorithms for variable structures that allow songs to basically write themselves within a certain parameter, more or less. Or at least for certain details to become randomized. It's pretty interesting.
I also think it's fun to watch people collect as many samples together and spend forever mashing them together to make these really colorful songs that you can almost taste. People will take years just gathering little snippets and making a sort of salad out of them. Tirestires and Street Sects are a good example, I think.

I know. They're immediately identifiable. Transforming a guitar, sonically, into something unidentifiable is uncommon unless you're Kevin Shields.

>sophie and oneohtrix
OH NO NO NO NO

Thanks, I'll check that stuff out.

>is something uncommon
Sure, but so is doing anything innovative with a synth. Those were just examples I happened to personally enjoy.

When things start becoming more about texture or production more than actual songwriting, that's how you know your genre is dead

I know, they're somewhat basic and popular answers but they're interesting nonetheless.

No problem :)

Why not post microtonal electronic music or something
Nothing that sophie or oneohtrix do is interesting in any way shape or form

I strongly disagree here.
I think texture can be as important as note arrangement itself because it's integral to the listening experience. Textural differences can ruin a song as much as enhance it.

I don't want to but I can't help but agree with this. I just remember what happened to classical music when it became all about texture or all about form. A balance is needed and I don't feel like new electronic music is doing it.

I think microtonality is a bit of a meme. I haven't seen anyone use it outside of the context of, "Look, here's a microtonal thing." Musicians rarely seem to use it in a way that's meaningful.

And sophie rehashing glitch music and oneohtrix rehashing vaporwave aren't memes? Lol
m.youtube.com/watch?v=BV1SLw6FXRw

>oneohtrix rehashing vaporwave
Oneohtrix is one of the originators of vaporwave...

No lmao, chopped and screwed was proto-vaporwave and vaporwave is dead for years now, how is oneohtrix an interesting development or relevant in any way lol

Kek this nigga trying to recruit people into electronic music knows less about it than the guitarists in this thread

Soooo is the Ibanez RG good?!

No. Spring for the ukelele. It's what's happenin'.

Dis dood still salty

Some of them are. What pickup comfig do you want? Figure that out

>still
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nice b8

Based

So the only new stuff that's in electronic music now are revivals of 90s genres like glitch and chopped and screwed?
That's as much innovation as all the other genres have gone through lately lmao

Do fags here actually believe that synths are better than actual guitars?

ik, these niggers are retarded.
they act like synths won't become stale in the next 10-20 years. ever instrument will suffer the same problems as guitar, there are only so many ways to manipulate a waveform.
simply put, a guitar with effects can sound like a synth, but a synth can never sound close to a guitar

neat

Synths are already fucking stale. It's just another folk instrument, we've been trying to come up with the be-all end-all for centuries -

and have yet to eclipse the piano.

>WELL I HAVE MORE TIMBRES
>INFINITE RANGE
>MORE EXPRESSIVENESS
>INFINITE POSSIBILTIES
>so why do people dismiss my music as messy trash and jack off to some guy indirectly hammering some strings?
>i swear to god that given enough time or the right AI I could totally get close to those dynamics
>besides he goes off tempo and his dynamics aren't consistent, talk about trash music lol a computer never deviates from the metronome so surely people should realize it's just better
>all the best selling, rarely analyzed background music of the last five years agrees
>synths are ideal for music people pay very little attention t....wait fuck

Recordings of real horns will usually be mastered and compressed so you'd never tell the difference. People like sterile sounds. They give music a hypnotic, relaxing quality and hide less than talented playing in the case of interactive synths.

But a live horn performance would be instantly recognizable and although electronic music played over a PA could try to model that, it wouldn't sound the same unless it used several sound sources placed at different points in space.

Electronics might be able to compete in modern "industry" music and even try and encroach on less compressed, more "organic" live recordings but they'll never replace the live musician. Live music sells so much less, but means so much more.

>flute
>violin
that's why you have the synth faggot, it's always been vocals/guitar/synth/bass/drums and will always be

anything can be made into a synth nowadays
fuck, I have a guitar pedal that is a synth
important thing is to learn music theory and how to play and make music in the first place, then you'll realize instrument choice doesn't even matter

those faggots are dorks like every ibanez player

this is a fantastic thread about Ibanez RG guitars

which ibanez under $500 is the best?

>i have shit taste

*routes a volca fm through a strymon bigsky shimmer*
Ah, what a great ambient bop

Besides all the valid points about how shitty MIDI guitars sound, there is no fucking way you are going to play certain quick guitar rhythms with a good feel through a goddamn DAW

>he thinks tone is the most intriguing aspect of music
>doesn’t realize genuine musical creativity will always prevail

laaame

>caring about “the music industry”

if I wanted Jewish marketing agency- sponsored music, I would ask you

the one that has the features you like. same for other price ranges.

>all rock music from the 60s - 00s sounds the same

this board is 18+

this thread is 90% cope

>valid points about how shitty MIDI guitars sound
modelling is improving at a really fast rate and MPE is a thing, so I have a feeling MIDI guitars will be nearly if not entirely indistinguishable within the next decade

Who are you quoting?

>>he thinks tone is the most intriguing aspect of music
Literally never said that. Tone and texture are both extremely important, though.
>>doesn’t realize genuine musical creativity will always prevail
Yes, it will. Tonality is a crucial part of that. You're not wrong there.

youtube.com/watch?v=KVn4VXemjtk
youtube.com/watch?v=UnpXmi8MMQ0
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seethe, acousticboomers

>Tonality is a crucial part of that.

Not really, though. Take Nirvana for example. They sounded like any shitty garage act, but they wrote good songs, so Sub Pop picked them up, and viola they became best-selling artists.

That's because of where the focus is directed. Sometimes it's aimed purely at songwriting, sometimes the texture itself is all that matters (i.e. noise). You don't always have to focus on maximizing both as much as possible, but tonality can drastically change a project for better or worse. Doesn't always have to, but it's still an important aspect to consider.

it's entirely possible that you've been hearing virtual instruments and only never noticed it. your brain only points out the bleepbloops when the bleepbloops are easily identifiable.

Sounds nothing like it and you can't give a decent live performance. People will always want to see the real instrument

>inb4 ew live
The virgin bedroom recording artist vs. the chad gigging artist

...

>Sounds nothing like it
Of course you can just say that regardless of what you actually think.
I wonder what people would actually think without knowing where the sound is coming from.
>you can't give a decent live performance.
Yes, you can. People give decent live performances with electronic devices all the time. That rubbery thing is no different.
>People will always want to see the real instrument
Electronic instruments are real instruments. They're tools used for making music. They're instruments.
>inb4 ew live
???
Who was saying anything like that?

>viola
are you retarded?