What is it with people unfamiliar with classical music creaming their pants over slow impressionist pieces...

please don't equate debussy with satie

It discourages people from listening to art music which means art music will become less popular and ergo less well funded.

they're equal in the eyes of the normies, they know only Gymnopedies and Claire de Lune/Reveries

imagine seeing some random person on the internet praising Satie and your first thought being "i must show this plebian foolishness to the denizens of Yea Forums"

Literally jewish marketing.

Satie is only famous for one song (you know which one) as is to great extend Debussy although his Arabesque and a few other pieces are almost es prominnt as his Clair de Lune. But Hollywood and advertisibg have overused Satie and Debussy so much when they want to emphazise something calm or classy/pretty that these rwo have become mainstream standard. Also them being slow and simplistic makes them more accessible to the masses as opposed to something like Rite of Spring or a fucking Chopin Polonaise.

based!

the post had no malicious intent, i'm just wondering why Debussy/Satie seem to attract the most of the people who are unfamiliar with classical music
>Debussy
>jewish marketing
>Arabesque and a few other pieces
are you mentally ill? what about La Mer, Faune, Children's Corner, the preludes, Images, Estampes and the rest of his damn oeuvre. Debussy has an enormous amount of good and important work, he is definitely not some shilled composer, he's earned his place in history. I do agree with the rest of your points though

I think another more complicated aspect of the appeal of those types of songs (satie in particular) is in the composition itself.
A lot of those tracks sound much less harmonically complex than other pieces of that era and are followed by modern audiences more easily.
I mean, that satie piece is literally 2 chords for most of the piece.
this aligns much more with modern songs that are loop based, electronic/rap/rock etc, instead of modulating and emphasizing different tonal centers

good point, of course no newbie's gonna listen to Rite of Spring

Faggot

>cheesy
But that's just your perception, not the music.

*ahem*
Satie is semi-based (not that piece though) and Ravel > Debussy. Also take the divinepill, lads.

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It's literally easy-listening muzak that is meant to be played, but not listened to and Satie knowingly pioneered it. He even got pissed off when people showed interest in him playing and didn't just ignore him and his playing. But that's only like a few pieces, he wrote really avant-garde shit as well.
And Debussy doesn't really fit into the same category. Sure he has popular pieces, but the majority of his music is very unusual-sounding even for today's ears.

>Debussy/Satie seem to attract the most of the people who are unfamiliar with classical music
Clair de Lune is popular, but there are more popular pieces.
youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
youtube.com/watch?v=GRxofEmo3HA
youtube.com/watch?v=9E6b3swbnWg
Which if Youtube views are anything to go off of are more popular than Clair De Lune.
youtube.com/watch?v=CvFH_6DNRCY
Although, maybe that isn't a good assumption because for some reason this has 58 million views.
youtube.com/watch?v=mmCnQDUSO4I
If you want a general trend here, music that is serene, relaxing and easy to have on in the background of something else you're doing is what is popular.
Except that Shostakovitch piece....I have no idea why it is so popular. Was it in a movie or something?

>Except that Shostakovitch piece....I have no idea why it is so popular. Was it in a movie or something?
I have no idea as well, it's bizarre, but even more bizarre is fucking Fur Elise man. That shit boring bagatelle wasn't even published in Beethoven's lifetime, who the fuck even popularised it? Why is it popular? It's so fucking uninspired.

I wish people hear more Satie (besides the standard piano pieces) before making any judgements about his compositions

youtube.com/watch?v=IuZ4DYywqpw

>Except that Shostakovitch piece....I have no idea why it is so popular. Was it in a movie or something?
i'm pretty sure it's been in some Russian film, which would explain the popularity there, don't know about the West though, sure it's been somewhere, it's just that kind of music
>Debussy/Satie seem to attract the most of the people who are unfamiliar with classical music
I don't mean that exactly, it was a bit poorly worded. my OP fits my thinking better, imo Debussy leads in these kinds of gushing, ebullient "OMG DA BEST" comments

that shostakovich piece was on kubrick's eyes wide shut, although I think it was fairly popular even before that film

as a followup to Shostakovich, it's been in Eyes Wide Shut, which could explain some of its popularity (not that it's an incredibly popular movie or anything). can't find any famous Russian movie that has it, maybe that's just the Mandela effect

Lol, I listened to both today. Now I feel bad

you get a pass, user

cause we arnt pretentious cunts.

Thanks, but to seriously answer your question I was listening to Clair de lune on the radio at work today because I wanted quiet. If there wasn’t anything playing someone else would put something on so I put the most non offensive quiet music I could think of and since I don’t know shit about classical, Debussy and Satie are all I could think of

the art music that normies are into is shit like max richter. i would love if max richter never got another cent to make useless, pallid shit

>Why is it popular?
Same deal with the other pieces, it's easy listening. How it got so well known is a good question though. Might just be an easy standalone piece by a major composer to teach new piano students?
Well they are really great pieces tbf.
They're also different to the sort of pieces most people who usually listen to popular music are familiar with but not so different as to be difficult to appreciate on first listen. Floaty, ambiguous, impressionist chords sound gorgeous. Clair de Lune and the Gymnepodies employ that aesthetic alongside catchy melodies, simple rhythm(especially in the case of Gymnepodies) and the least timbrally complex setup you could get a normie to listen to.
That's a good set of characteristic for a popular classical piece and by my reckoning why Clair de Lune is more popular than the obviously better Prelude A L'Apres Midi d'un Faune.
Also, The 12 Etudes which are clearly actually Debussy's best work.
>that shostakovich piece was on kubrick's eyes wide shut, although I think it was fairly popular even before that film
Man this piece has gone completely over my head. I didn't even realize normies were even aware of who Shostakovitch is. Like, in my head he is someone who comes halfway in a list of the top 10 most famous Russian composers but apparently more people are listening to that waltz than anything by Tchaikovsky.
Also, while I'm mentioning him, Waltz of Flowers is his most viewed piece which is a bit of a travesty cause it's entirely because of how hard it's been memed.

Leave reddit faggot

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>Also, The 12 Etudes which are clearly actually Debussy's best work.
for me, it's Estampes and Children's Corner
>Also, while I'm mentioning him, Waltz of Flowers is his most viewed piece which is a bit of a travesty cause it's entirely because of how hard it's been memed.
i don't think it's memery, it's an honestly gorgeous piece i love it. another one from the Nutcracker that i love but isn't that famous (i think) is Pas de Deux, it's pretty prominent in the Soviet Nutcracker cartoon, which i recommend that everyone watch, it's got no dialogue iirc
youtube.com/watch?v=YR5USHu6D6U

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Gatekeeping is good

So you would rather art music be dumbed down to appeal to the masses and become a caricature of its former self than fade away in a dignified manner?

what does it say about me if i only like alban berg and philip glass

You're a pseud

This crowd would love Ravel and Faure, but they don't get the representation that Satie and Debussy do. I think Chopin already is a major "next step" for this audience.

how do i unpseud