Hip Hop is easy to make

Make one right now.

New hip hop is easy to make.
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If hip hop wasn't easy to make this clown wouldn't have a career

You should have said good hip hop. Anyone can rhyme and make a beat on fruity loops, it take no talent to make an "acceptable" hip hop song. Being good at it is what takes talent.

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Why are shit hop fans so spastic? It is easy to make you fucking wigger fucks

The takeaway is that anybody can make fucking music, it's just the difference between making music and making GOOD music - and don't you fucking brain dead hip hop "durr hurr black music = bad" people come at me with your subjective opinion of popular rap artists now, not even the fucking topic of the thread

Also, let me add that you can replace "Hip Hop" with ANY FUCKING ZEITGEIST of a genre and there will be the retards who think they can do it. Those of you who hate hip hop are equal to the motherfuckers that hated rock when it became the zeitgeist. Your part of the whole cycle, so those of you who shit on hip hop are screaming into the void "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HIP HOP IS SHIIIIIIIIIT" are basically the same as everybody else, whether your that type or your the "RAP NOW SUCKS LLAMA NUTS" type. The only intelligent people in the conversation are the ones saying nothing. or maybe commenting on it from an outside point of view.

I agree with a lot of this, but you did omit a key point.

Hip-hop is objectively, unarguably, significantly more accessible to produce ("easier" to make) than earlier genres because of the ubiquity of computers.
If you wanted to make rock music, you would need at least an electric guitar, an amp, a drum kit, and a mic. If you want to make hip-hop, you can just download Reaper.

Hip-hop IS easier to make than most other genres.

>The takeaway is that anybody can make fucking music, it's just the difference between making music and making GOOD music
at least with blues, rock, jazz the requirement of learning and playing an instrument and finding multiple musicians that are into the same scene as you filters out a load of shit that would have existed otherwise.
everyone knows people who have an old guitar lying around but never learnt to play. in rap there is no barrier to entry.

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based

90's hip hop is where its at

Exactly one (1) hip hop comin your way.

Found the nigger. Please, kindly, gtfo.

>at least with blues, rock, jazz the requirement of learning and playing an instrument and finding multiple musicians that are into the same scene as you filters out a load of shit that would have existed otherwise.
extremely good point

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Equivalent of someone saying "well if it's so bad why don't you make something better"

This is such a stupid argument. Yes the music portion of hip hop is easy to make, it's supposed to be. The music is just a background for the rapping, which is the entire point of the genre. All this crap about how rap beats are suddenly musical works of art that are impossible to make came long after the genre became commercially successful.

its objectively easier to make in terms of actually having a bare, baseline product. just like ambient music. if you go on soundcloud or any amateur music site you will find it's totally oversaturated when it comes to genres like rap, noise, and ambient. on the other hand, prog rock and other genres that require significant time dedication before you can even record a single song are far less abundant. who cares if your feelings are hurt its true.

Hip Hop is easy to make

easy to make, hard to master

Make one Hip Hop song.

Tried to give you a fair and honest appraisal of the situation based on objective facts and you reply with a smarmy, bullshit quip. I guess I have to make one song for every single sub-genre of music out there before I'm allowed to say anything at all, nevermind the obvious fact that you can't make a song that sounds like prog rock with just a few chords and a shitty amp, while you can do so with punk. Do you see what this means? Objectively, the barrier for entry is lower with punk music. That doesn't mean punk is inferior to prog because music is judged based on its quality, not its barrier for entry.

I really wish little insecure kiddies like you just vanished over night. All you do is make the world a more obnoxious and unfriendly place because you can't stand anything that takes away your totally unwarranted sense of self-importance and uniqueness.

Make one Hip Hop song. Can you not follow simple rules?

>before you can even record a single song

before you can even write a single song (weeps quietly)

I'm not a hip hop musician. If I were to make one, I'd be faking my way through the entire process just to prove something to you and then you'd say "oh well it's not good" and we'd be right back to my point that music is not judged on its barrier of entry, but its quality. Do you think I'm actually physically incapable, as a person, of making a hip hop song? Where do you get such an idea from? Or do just have no counter-arguments?

>I'm not a hip hop musician.
Exactly.

If I were to make one, I'd be faking my way through the entire process just to prove something to you and then you'd say "oh well it's not good" and we'd be right back to my point that music is not judged on its barrier of entry, but its quality. Do you think I'm actually physically incapable, as a person, of making a hip hop song? Where do you get such an idea from? Or do just have no counter-arguments?

>incapable of understanding simple arguments
>incapable of refuting even one point
>incapable of even acknowledging even one point
>can only repeat one sentence

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music is easy to make

GOOD music is hard to make

>the actual state

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>X is easy
>Ok, do X
>Well you see (insert excuses here)
Make a Hip Hop song now.

Have you ever made a rap song?

youtube.com/watch?v=QHYwprmWMfY

Other genres require you to buy and learn how to play instruments, not to mention amplifiers and microphones or other musicians.
Hip-hop does not.

Can you use your brain to think of a counterargument or are you only smart enough to say one sentence over and over?

Still waiting on that hip hop song.

>literally only able to repeat one sentence

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>literally incapable of backing up his argument that it's easy to make hip hop
Ok back to rddit with your brainlet edits mr. retard

Other genres require you to buy and learn how to play instruments, not to mention amplifiers and microphones or other musicians.
Hip-hop does not.

So if that's true it should be easy for you to make a hip hop song to prove it.

Are you disputing the claim that you need to play instruments and have recording gear to make rock music? Because that's an objective fact.

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Yeah hip hop sure is "easy" to make, Yea Forums is definitely one of the most pathetic posting base

Are you going to make a rap song and prove your thesis, or are you going to concede your weak argument?

>So if that's true
It is true. If it weren't true, you would say something other than "then make a song hurrrrr".
Or maybe you wouldn't, because you're clearly fucking retarded.

After all, you already basically said it's true. Why do I need to make a song if you already agreed with the fact that other genres require more equipment and practice?

you know who didn't make any rap? Johan Sebastian Bach. The obvious conclusion is that and him are equally talented.

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Make a song if its true and prove it. That's what I said. Cute strawman though.

>stop strawmanning and respond to my strawman

Learn what strawman means. Still waiting on that hip hop song btw.

My thesis is not "I can make a rap song". My thesis is that rap music has a lower barrier for creation than other genres of music that require you to own, learn, and record an instrument. Why can't you address this already? If your argument is so strong then do so.

If the barrier for creation is so low just make a rap song dude. Since its apparently so easy.

I didn't say "low", I said "lower", which is a relative term, relative to the thing I just mentioned. Using a sequencer has a lower barrier of entry than playing the violin. That doesn't mean I own a sequencer and can make a set of sequenced notes for you to address your little quip. Are you interested in facts or not?

Ask Jake Paul.

>You dont have to buy equipment!
>b-b-buh i dont have the right equipment!
Pick one. Btw I'm still waiting on that hip hop song.

Try to go five seconds without making stuff up. I'm not saying, literally, I don't own a sequencer. I do. I have every tool that is required to make a rap song, which shouldn't be surprising because all you need is software and a desktop computer. Guess what, you need those things to make a rock song as well. So in addition to having everything that is required to make a rap song, you need to have an instrument, know to play it, and have the required equipment to record it. Please try to tell me how this equates to them having the same barrier for entry.

Just make a hip-Hop song bro, if it's so easy. Or are you just too talentless to make one?

Hip hop is sooo easy lol

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Why is hip hop supposedly hard to make? Please, enlighten me.

Just make a hip hop song bro!

>Make a song if its true and prove it. That's what I said.
Yeah, and the fact that this is the only "proof" that you accept demonstrates you are a fucking retard.
And since I'm not a fucking retard, I can clearly explain why.

Hip-hop requires less equipment and practice than other genres.
This is a fact and you don't dispute this.
Because hip-hop needs less equipment and practice, it's easier to make hip-hop than other genres.

More simply:
It takes less equipment and practice to do A than B, so A is easier than B.
This is logic. You don't need to see direct evidence to evaluate logical arguments.

Since you already agreed that hip-hop requires less equipment and practice, it logically follows that hip-hop is easier to create than other genres. That's already proof.

Yeah so if it's really that easy make a hip hop song already.

I don't think anyone is saying it is hard to make a beat but a simple beat isn't hip hop. Incorporate other elements of the culture and be original. Oh you don't find that easy?

Do you agree that hip-hop requires less equipment and practice than other genres?

You won't get that hip hop song because nobody's gonna make a song just to win some stupid Yea Forums discussion. People don't have to make a hip hop song to figure out that fruity loops is easier than violin.

Are you going to make a hip-hop song?
>nobody's gonna make a hip hop song to make a Yea Forums argument
Wow it's almost like they're difficult to make and it wouldn't be worth the effort

It's a simple question:
Do you agree that hip-hop requires less equipment and practice than other genres?

If you're too scared to answer it that's okay. You don't have to.
Everyone already knows that answer is yes.

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So prove it and make a hip hop song. Unless you're just so utterly talentless that you're not able to.
>shit analogy
wtf is wrong with you

"easy" in the OP is making a comparison with other genres of music.

How do you know that? Make a hip hop song already.

>Wow it's almost like they're difficult to make and it wouldn't be worth the effort
Would you bake a cupcake just for the sake of winning a Yea Forums discussion?

hip hop it's the easiest music to make, no doubt half of the songs are stolen samples from others artist so?

>food analogy
Ask me how I know you're American.

I think the disconnect is who gets credit. Rapping doesn't take much musical talent. That being said a rap song does require talent, just not usually from the rapper. Then most rappers need a "hype man" with them on stage, because they can't even do it live. Plus, its the most dumbed down genre of music. More than pop.

>So prove it and make a hip hop song.
Why do I need to do more to prove it? You already agree hip-hop takes less equipment and practice.

Since it takes less equipment and practice to do A than B, A is easier than B.
That's enough proof.

It's not an analogy, it's literally your argument. Someone cannot claim that taking a shit is harder than climbing mount Everest without proving to you that they can take a shit. Sounds pretty fucking stupid, doesn't it?

I never agreed. I asked you to prove your point and you weren't able to. Looks like you lost this one, little buddy.

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Dude what is your problem

>hip hop is easy to make
>but I can't or won't make some

Wow seems like you have no position to criticize anyone you brainlet

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Make a hip hop song.

You're apparently unable to acknowledge when you've completely lost an argument. That would be you with the problem, not me.

>still hasn't made a hip hop song
uh huh. just as I thought.

Again, nobody's going to make a song just to prove a point. The word ''easy'' in this context means easy relative to nearly all other genres. Nobody said it's as easy as breathing.

Yes, and I won't be making one for you. Perhaps it is time to move on to substance.

sort of, it's a different kind of hard
it's like trying to put your all in a small set of different 4 bar loops

it takes a different kind of skillset than making other kinds of music, because the part of it that everyone likes the most is certainly not the music (though it can really help if you're good on that too)
nobody wants to hear you rap about being an incel virgin, and learning how to improvise to modal jazz will not make your lyrics better or you better at rapping

It's hard to make without cringing while you make it.
For some reason I couldn't imagine trying to make any of the hip hop songs I've ever liked. I bet they would appear cheesy to the writers while they made them. That's a hell of a hurdle to cross.

look at this little wonder

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NGL I really want MGK and Tinie Tempah to make a song together for the banter. They are both FIFA rap and exactly on the same league.

>nobody wants to hear you rap about being an incel virgin
That would be refreshing as hell. It's depressing how little variety there is in subject matter even though lyrics are supposedly so important.

i try not to be too judgemental, but why are hip-hop heads such fucking mouthbreathers?
they're worse than breakbeat hardcore fans

test

>yes making hip-hop is easy
>w-what do you mean if its easy then make a song?
>s-stop repeating the same s-sentence you autist

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>wojak
how do (c)rap fags outdo themselves every time
how low can that IQ go

>>wojak
>how do (c)rap fags outdo themselves every time
>how low can that IQ go

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Still harder. by a lot

Make a Hip-Hop song.

No.

Next.

this

Why not? Too difficult for you?

Yes. I have to put in at least 10 minutes of work, which is too much for me.

Next.

Try 10 hours

No. I said 10 minutes.

Next.