No you don't get it dude it's SUPPOSED to sound bad...

The Pissy Music including "sophie" and kane west

>I can't comprehend polyrhythms and polytonality so it MUST be nonsense!

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see

I saw OP's retarded post, don't worry. See

you mustn't understand. read this again.

Bach

I insist, you are genuinely a tastelet because you cannot comprehend music sounding any different from your usual pop garbage.

why can't people grasp that it might take a few listens to understand more complex music with different intrinsic rules to music you may be more familiar with

>NOOOOOO STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND THAT I CANNOT LISTEN TO ON AUTOPILOT

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It has to be the audience. It can't possibly be that their music sucks ass.

>if you don't like it, you don't get it and you're too stupid to!
>t. IQ 110

>kane west
Retard. I don't like Kanye but his music is poppy and the composition sticks together, there isn't much complication that would make is unlistenable to the average listener.

>It has to be the audience.
Yeah, correct. The average music listener is impatient, unknowledgeable and definitely doesn't have a diverse taste.

He's talking about the bald dude from kera kera bonito not Kanye

>the audience
What do you mean? Captain Beefheart has a large cult following. Are you trying to say it has to appeal to the masses to be good? Or it's an indicator that it's good if it appeals to the masses?

nigga literally what

seeing how music taste and perception is subjective and you cannot prove music is bad, especially since your obvious lacking of music knowledge and terminology, then yes pretty much it's the audience

Look man, all I said was that it was unlistenable and it sucked. If you think it's still worth listening to that's your problem, don't hassle me.

So I have to understand music theory in order to like or dislike something? Or perceive that something sounds good or not?
Yeah, ok. We should simply bow down to your greater knowledge, we’re too ignorant

Trout Mask Replica is a practical joke by Captain Beefheart and Zappa. It’s exposing musical pretensions - they purposely made an unlistenable album of utter discordant noise, and sat back and watched as people jerked off over it. It’s the musical equivalent of the Emperor’s New Clothes.

So all the people praising albums like TMR and Bitches Brew are just delusional, it can't possibly be that they have a more sophisticated understanding of music than you and can appreciate it on it's own contexts?
saying that, bitches brew is vastly overrated and is completely saved in the edit by producer Teo Macero, otherwise it would be an aimless meandering mess; kinda like the first star wars film

TMR consistently filters plebs to this day
I can tell you've never listened past Dachau blues because your pleb self can't put any effort into trying to comprehend a masterwork. As soon as someone says "emperor's new clothes" in relation to tmr you know they haven't a clue about what they're saying.
If you had any grasp on the composition process behind the music or any bearing on the musicianship at display you'd not be chatting such utter shit. Even without that, tracks like Ella Guru, Moonlight on Vermont, Pachuco Cadaver, Sugar 'n' Spikes are essentially just jaunty blues rock with unconventional rhythms and performances.
fucking pleb get off this board

>No you don't get it dude it doesn’t sound bad. It’s actually extremely enjoyable and quite catchy but because you only listen to normal pop music you aren’t used to this kind of complexity and originality. Let me explain the theory to you...

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this

>actually comparing Trout Mask Replica to Bitches Brew
lol, never change Beefheart fans

You sound exactly like the opening post and without any self awareness of it. Holy shit.

>So I have to understand music theory in order to like or dislike something?
You have to understand music in a way that isn't just feels to actually entertain a coherent thought, that's a fact. You can say you like or don't like something but you'll have a hard time explaining how and why or why it's good or not. You can't just scream it "sounds poo poo" and add nothing else and expect to be taken seriously.

Ding ding.
Based Chad.

youtube.com/watch?v=PBvwcH4XX6U
3:19
I unironically still love both the song and the band, though

i think hes making fun of you dude

>I don't like it because it's hard to listen to. What's the point of music if it's difficult? I don't like being challenged stop explaining music to me you fucking nerd

maybe i appreciate music for the emotion,passion,and overall feel the artist puts forth to create a representation of there own individualistic self and the emotions they associate with. i hate to use these fags as an example, but for fucks sake isnt this what tools lateralus is all about, overthinking calculated music thats difficult for the sake of being difficult and not actually good or conveying emotion. for fucks sake just live in the moment and appreciate things fro what they are instead of trying to calculate and solve everything because you thinks it makes you seem obscure,smart and interesting

I get that but you act like you can't do this while also enjoying things that challenge you and push back a little bit. That's like listening to Colors and complaining that they can't stick to 1 genre. You can enjoy things that click in the moment and you can also enjoy things that take some digesting.

idk man, i respect yall liking what you like theres just something that seems to cold and calculated about it all, like appreciating good musicianship is fine but worshipin an equation is just inhuman to me

Trout mask replica sucks, get over it. You're not smart, you're easily duped

black midi

just not for me

Not a band but Schoenberg and he's great
Stop

Looks like someone is mad, heh

ITT: Sound Muslims reeeing at each other.

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Pic related "sounds like shit", but most of the songs are actually pretty good. A lot of people call it a masterpiece because of its use of polyrhythms and polytonality, but Zappa and the Mothers pulled that off way better.

>atonal music
Fuck no. Schoenberg's early works were great but then he kinda hit fed up with tonality and WW1 happened so he started making emotionless music. Later in his life he'd realized he gave talentless hacks the opportunity to make soulless crap and call it "avant-garde".

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>Dude it's supposed to sound like shit you just can't comprehend the math behind the shit. Look it uses more than one rhythm or tone at once that automatically means it's good and is completely shielded from criticism. You just can't comprehend the theory of my super special jazz rock shitfest.

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math rock is based

dumb fuck

Circle Takes The Square

damn son, who hurt you?

why do you assume I don't understand music theory and think it's nonsense? I do, and still think captain beef is shit. People have different tastes, get over it you humongous faggot

the shaggs

Civil protection

Sometimes this is right (In regards to shit like Swans), sometimes it's wrong (Charles Mingus is a genius fuck you)

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This some tasty pasta, bra

Polyphony is a meme. There is a good reason it has been largely abandoned (because it sounds terrible) but it's still there so talentless musicians can wank off to it like it's rocket science.

based Scaruffi drone

Lol.
And it catches another one!

I'm a huge fan of trout mask replica but still "it's supposed to sound bad" is often fair

Stfu

Never said those parameters mean it's automatically good. Nice bunch of assumptions you got there, chum. It's okay to say you just don't like it though.
Because people who criticise TMR negatively on Yea Forums don't talk about the actual music, they only say it sounds like poo poo and that's it. Not to be taken seriously or with any merit.

>is a meme
>abandoned because it sounds terrible
>blah blah blah wank
The state of Yea Forums """"music discussion"""" lmao

Oh no, its feelings are hurt.

Obviously not
Kind of but only on TMR and even then not on most songs
They're not supposed to sound bad
Royal Trux

>who hurt you honey

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>retard starts posting Wojaks

>NOO STOP MAKING FUN OF ME

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>retard starts posting Wojaks

>Why doesn't is sound like the stuff I listened to on the radio when I was 13 waaah! Stop liking things!!!

This but remove the theory bit.