Because she's a woman and because of the way those videos are shot. That's literally it. She's fucking awful.
Nathan James
"Don't care"ay
Michael Cook
Fuck off.
Jaxon Ortiz
>12-tone tonality Wtf
David Watson
Yeah, I'm only really super fond of Der Ring, Parsifal, and Tristan, though. Meistersinger and Lohengrin have great moments for me, but aren't as interesting on the whole
I don't hate the guy, he clearly knows more about harmony than me. It's one of those cases of pop-science where the guy who breaks into the mainstream is actually really good. Kinda like Tony Hawk, he brought skateboarding to the mainstream but also was the best of the time.
I don't like her playing at all. She has some intonations issues and sometimes I feel she rush pieces just to show off, dynamism also inst great. For her stuff that I listened, at least.
Alexander Morgan
what do you think of mahler second?
Jayden Howard
ew. Metalfags should just stay the fuck away from classical.
Liam Hall
Absolutely love Saint-Saens' Aquarium lads. Does anybody have any recommendations of similar ethereal pieces?
Easton Diaz
she's usually the first youtube result for all the piano memes. for playlist zoomers she's the first person they know and hear. it's not like she's the first mediocre hack on the piano to be shilled as star player by marketing, yes, I'm speaking of Lang Lang.
Joseph Cruz
Debussy's arabesque no.1 and Satie's gymnopedie no.1
Luke Sanchez
I think Lang Lang at least has better technique than her, he can impress once in a while.
But yeah, he's mostly a meme.
Joshua Watson
Why did Haydn and Beethoven hated each other again?
Henry Sanchez
I think the worst pianist meme I've ever seen and that I actually took offense to its existence, was that one thot with obscenely long legs that sits way too far from the piano. Not only her posture in cringe indulging but she's sound awful. I don't even care for the short dresses and heels. People asked me about her a few times and I generally had a hard time not sounding bitter in answering them
Logan Hall
Personality clash.
Juan Perry
learn english
Oliver Price
Who is the greatest composer of all time and why is it Edward Elgar?
Jonathan Carter
Because no other pick is as profoundely contrarian.
Joseph Walker
I'm on my phone, fuck off
Brayden Collins
no u
Jonathan Cox
I can symphatise with Haydn. I learned to love Beethoven after reading his biography and would very much like to be his friend or pupil. But fuck if I wouldn't hate a 20 something years old midget who thinks too high of himself.
They at least respected each other as musicians. Haydn knew Beethoven was very talented and Beethoven wouldn't study from Haydn's work if he thought otherwise.
Nathan Wood
As a 'serious' lyrical concert composer of more than half a century who had to endure the dodecaphonic madness of mid 20th-century academia, and who daily rubbed shoulders with the deans of 12-tone ivory-towerism such as composer George Perle (author of "12-tone Tonality') and Luigi Dallapiccola (during year at the Conservatory of Bologna) I found immense therapeutic delight in this perceptive & clever send-up of a style which, as the superlative Maurice Ravel told Alma Mahler after she took him to a concert of Schoenberg's, ". . .That's not music - that was born in the laboratory!" Indeed. Nevertheless, aside from providing several generations of spiritually disconnected and therefore uninspired 'composers' a rational infrastructure for the self-consciously convoluted, dense and meaningless works, it did have one immensely redeeming benefit which ultimately wound up fertilizing the creative lives of all subsequent composers - it opened the Pandora's Box of infinite harmonic (or, if you are too hyper-intellectual to countenance that word, 'combinatorial' possibilities, which, in the hands of gifted, inspired composers such as Samuel Barber, resulted in music of far deeper, more expansive tonality and harmonic gravitas. Thank goodness I was too stubborn and awake to ever mistake this absurd musical version of 'The Emperor's New Clothes' to ever be taken in by the epidemic, no matter how many willing clones jumped on the bandwagon.
Indeed, I recall, one day, after one of Dr. Perle's incomprehensible harmony classes (my first harmony/theory professor!), during which we studied a romantic string quartet, how, in a rare moment of unguarded candor, he gazed almost longingly at the score upon the keyboard and mused aloud, as if to himself, ". . .sometimes I wish I could still write in that style. . ." - a mind-blowing confession from the most cerebral of musical minds (he once said, "At one point in my life, as a boy, I was at a place where I could have become either a mathematician or a musician - it all rested on a dime, when something somebody said tipped me into music.,"). . .But his candid comment had spilled the beans. . .and confirmed what I had already heard in several works I had pre-listened to in the University library, in which I could distinctly discern a submerged lyricism struggling to emerge from an engulfing maelstrom of dodecaphonic chaos - lovely parallel sixth chords whose evocative flow were effectively disguised by a fabric which less discerning ears would fail to penetrate. After the class had adjourned, I waited and asked Dr. Perle, "Why do you feel you can't write music like that anymore?" (because, of course, I suffered no such crippling paranoia about creating a pure and singable melody, just as did Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Puccini, Ravel and Barber. He considered me for a moment, and then, failing, I think, to realize just how extensive my own immersion in the infrastructure of musical history might be, he said, "Well. . .you'd have to understand the history of music," - meaning, of course, that he felt time and cultural tide had painted him into the corner he was trapped in.
FYI, Yuja Wang is a superb pianist and generally too busy playing with the greatest orchestras of the world to be making those meme videos.
Dylan Williams
based
Aaron Brown
>And she just smiles during her entire play through... if you’re to play a piece like this authentically, you’re not going to be smiling through out, you should listen to Lisitsa
>During the first half of the 1920s, engineers at Western Electric, as well as independent inventors such as Orlando Marsh, developed technology for capturing sound with a microphone, amplifying it with vacuum tubes, then using the amplified signal to drive an electromechanical recording head. Western Electric's innovations resulted in a broader and smoother frequency response, which produced a dramatically fuller, clearer and more natural-sounding recording. Soft or distant sounds that were previously impossible to record could now be captured. Volume was now limited only by the groove spacing on the record and the amplification of the playback device. Victor and Columbia licensed the new electrical system from Western Electric and began issuing discs during the Spring of 1925. The first electrically made classical recording was Chopin's "Impromptus" and Schubert's "Litanei" performed by Alfred Cortot for Victor.
Dominic Gonzalez
she kind of dresses like a medieval executioner and I’m pretty sure she’s dating the voluntary stoic hobo chick that’s mentoring her anyway, sorry man
William Butler
It's okay, I hate women anyways
Levi Ward
if it makes you feel any better, that’s a potential sign of artistic genius you should start composing yourself
Levi Stewart
I've already started but all I've got are ideas I've not yet properly developed
Jack Stewart
Uh, grandpa?
Joshua Jenkins
What the fuck am I supposed to do with the .ape files from the OP?
Angel Thomas
go gorillas
Andrew Sanders
Given your technological illiteracy, you'd think ape files would be perfect for a person like you
Yea Forums is probably not the place to get advice for anything but I literally don't post anywhere else so here goes anyway.
Basically 6 months I bought a piano and learning to use has not gone well. I printed the sheet music for simple songs like moonlight sonata, minuet in G, nuvole bianche, gynopedie no 1. etc and I'm struggling with them. Like they sound shit when I play them and I keep making a ton of mistakes after all this time.
The problem is my hands are retarded. I find it hard to play almost all the songs and my forearms/wrists hurt after 10 minutes and all the songs sound bad. I thought it might be bad technique and I don't have a teacher to confirm this but I'm pretty sure it's just me.
I'm 27 so well past the age that being even remotely good is attainable, but I've known older guys to learn at least basic songs like the ones listed.
My last resort is paying for a teacher. Problem is, the cost of a teacher is basically not justifiable in my position, but I really want to learn. Should I just bite the bullet, get a few lessons, and try to improve, or should I give up? I'm really really poor I had to save for 4 years to buy a piano and lessons are basically gonna dig into food expenses but I'd do it if they were likely to improve my skill.
So question is, lessons, or sell piano?
Levi Ward
>but I really want to learn So theres your answer. Yes, get a teacher. Also learning an instrument by oneself is not the way to go. Of course you need technique to make even the simplest piece to sound good and this you hardly learn by yourself. You never start with pieces. Specially one you enjoy without the basics. Second reason is you will start to build terrible habits that you'll get a hell of trouble to get rid of later.
>I'm 27 so well past the age that being even remotely good that's not true at all. sure, you'll probably never get at the level of a soloist, but you're picking the instrument for the rest of your life. in 5-10 year from now you'll be able to play even virtuosi pieces if you practice enough and correctly. You just have to take it seriously.
Austin Morgan
By seriously I mean one to three hours a day is enough practice. Study s l o w l y.
William Nguyen
I do one hour a day after work and three hours on the weekends. How often should lessons be? Like once a week? Or once a month then practice alone? I have no idea and I'm just trying to minimise costs at this point but yeah I really want to learn at the cost of almost everything else.
Landon Wright
Once a week is enough. See how it goes at the very least. If you struggle too much with expenses just leave it for another time. You can always sell your piano. Just don't do it too soon if it comes to it.
Samuel King
Don't learn an instrument just post on Yea Forums instead
Jaxson Bell
I'm learning to play piano and I taught myself to play Minuet in G after a week with 3 hours a day. If you can't do it after literally 24 times as much practice, I don't think a teacher would be very helpful. There is probably something wrong with your approach to practicing if you can't improve on your own.
Do you practice scales, chords, and arpeggios? Have you read any beginner books or watched any tutorials?
"One day, people will have the means to share my music from anyone in the world... and they will constantly share this piece with one another, as a joke." "Ooh hoo hoo hoo I am such a goofball!" - Haydn, 1758.
Tyler Jackson
Not funny, ridiculous
Wyatt Morgan
fun and funny are different words
Parker Jenkins
Nope
Liam Smith
Fun: Enjoyment, amusement, or light-hearted pleasure. Funny: Causing laughter or amusement; humorous.
Getting a teacher will yield the best results. If you truly want to get better, though, you need to practice a lot. Practice for several hours every day and you will get better. It's not a question, it's a certainty. The more you play, the better you will become. It will be difficult, it will be frustrating, you will make a lot of mistakes, but you will get better.
If you quit now, you'll never play the piano. That's okay, but is that what you want?
Jeremiah Ross
I didn't mention, but you should be practicing proper technique. I would strongly strongly recommend getting books with the fingering marked in. Also exercise works like Hanon or Czerny will improve your general skills more than memorizing beginner songs.
Love Wagner's and Mozart's, like Paisiello's, Rossini's and Puccini's, not a fan of Verdi.
Juan Williams
>Mozart and Wagner
A man after meinem herzen.
Hudson Anderson
It's honestly pretty crazy how much Furtwangler's Wagner changed in just 3 years, and not just in a manner of tempo, but of articulation and balance. Just listen to the earlier '50 recording -- hear those biting strings, those piercing winds; the balance is almost chamber-like and quite frankly utterly unique amongst Wagner recordings. It's just so much more exciting than the latter recording, and even the singers are caught up in it. Honestly I had my reservations against the La Scala recording years ago, but it has grown on me more and more over time.
Are there any classical composers/pieces that utilize synesthesia really well? I feel like modern music with synthesizers are much more colorful compared to the classical that I've listened to.
What release is the Scala derived from? Because that sounds way better than the version I have
Ryan Adams
I've been listening to lots of classical and I enjoy it but I haven't heard anything that really blew me away with how beautiful it was. What would you guys recommend I listen to?
Can you guys rec me some piece with rapid violins like Vivaldi's? I'm looking for pieces with orchestra but with violins as main. (If that makes sense)
>Overrated: Franz Schubert, particularly as a song composer. I find much more care and detail in the songs of Schumann, Brahms and Hugo Wolf. By comparison, Schubert's settings are literal and offhand, and his accompaniments redundant to a degree I find difficult to live with.
>they lack any meaning or soul This isn't the Bizarro thread buddy. Schubert probably even more so than Beethoven ushered in the romantic trend to imbue his works with his own soul and suffering. I would say even that Beethoven latter in life moved more towards structural innovations while Schubert continued the emotional depth and melodicity of Mozart. Even when people do criticise Schubert they nail his lack of mastery over technique e.g. counterpoint despite his emotionally.
>being so inarticulate as to need to quote someone else to say essentially nothing more than "me no like thing thing bad" Oof
Schoenberg's Violin Concerto, realizing he was operating very closely to the forms of the works of Mozart except it was in extremely dissonant fashion.
Mofart was a mediocre crowd pleaser who never went beyond placid courtly dreck. His muzak is like lukewarm piss being passed off as champagne.
Charles Parker
how into webern lads?
Bentley Perez
>DAE le lolsomysterious renaissance poly-phony? >DAE le ebin unknown buhroke composers peatzold and zeelinka??? >DAE le soulless fugue autism meister blach??? >DAE le ebin ogre baydn clock rpg theme???? >DAE le underrated literal ass licker mofart???? >DAE le 2edgy4me angry manlet incel mutt shithooven????? >DAE le fat emo manlet incel shoeburp???? >DAE le ebin nadzi opera man wanker????? >DAE le 2deep4u esoteric larper incel screeuhbim???? >DAE le atonal autism weeburrn le textures????? r/classical
Blake Walker
>soulless fugue autism master Bach Oh it's this guy again
Brody Fisher
yup I'm thinkin he based time to show these astroturfing moshart fanbois their place
Sebastian more like Shit-bastion Amadeus more like Ahmad-ayyus Ludwig more like Loo-twig Franz Peter more like French Pee-turd Johannes more like Yo mama's Richard more like Reek-hard Pyotr more like Pee-ogre Gustav more like Poo-stuff Sergei more like Sir-gay Aleksandr more like al-Incel-durr
Anyone have something similar to Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit BWV 106? I've already listened to BWV 21, BWV 78, BWV 12 and BWV 244. I looked through the archives by searching for St Mathew Passion and got most of these from that, but I was curious what else I missed. It's okay if it's not Bach as well. I'm not very into classical music, but I really enjoyed all of these especially 106 and 244.
I'd like to find more music like this but I don't know how to categorize it, something that has a more somber mood, but no matter how I try to word it I think it sounds pretentious. And I've already listened to other depressive music that Yea Forums likes like Have a Nice Life, but I didn't like that at all.
Jack Ross
"Eternity, you make me scared, "forever", "forever" is too long! Ah, there is no joking about here. Flames that burn forever are like no fire that was ever witnessed; my heart trembles and is frightened, when I think about this suffering and bend my mind towards hell. Given, that the torment of the damned lasts as many years, as the numbers of grass blades on the earth, as stars in heaven; given, that the torture is ordained for as long as there have been humans on earth from the beginning, even then at last there would be an end and limit to it; it would have to stop sometime. Now, however, when the danger, You damned one! a thousand million years among all the devils has been endured, yet the end is never at hand; the time that no one can count, starts every moment, to the eternal undoing of your soul, over and over from the beginning."
Damn BWV20 has some scary text.
Daniel Gonzalez
give me the texture pill
Brody Lopez
BWV 106 its a Funeral Cantata, another funeral Cantata its BWV 198 But i think what you really want its early Bach, BWV 106 its a very early work and early Bach is really Powerful, Another early Cantata is BWV 4
not that I know of. If someone here shows me how to create whatever folders you guys use here, I could start a Wagner folder with the recording that I have.
Yeah that's peak Figaro. There's a video of Rossini's Barber of Seville (which tells the first part of the Figaro story) with the same Figaro (Hermann Pray) singing. It's really good as well
anybody know that quote by a spanish 'composer' talking about the guitar? something like it's both a gift and curse, because once you use it in a piece, you always use it in everything else on.
Julian Myers
Mahler sucks cock.
Parker Butler
What’s sad is this is the unironic opinion of a majority of posters here.
SAD
Jaxon Hernandez
What's your problem?
Hunter Reyes
I bet Vivaldi really would've liked memes.
Jaxson Scott
>scriabin 9 and 10 and vers la flamme too
Hunter Anderson
What the fuck is this schizophrenia supposed to mean
Mozart is the best to ever do it, and the operas are proof of it.
Chase Morgan
Since jazz general is dead forever, imma ask this here, what exactly is so special compositionally/theoretically about a love supreme? I enjoy a lot of pre-60s jazz and even coltrane's early-mid career work, but a love supreme just sounds boring
Josiah Cruz
you don't?
Dominic Barnes
New
Hunter Gonzalez
guys what's the comfiest classical piece ever? I'm trying to get into classical and want something comfy to have in the background while writing
