The best lyrics are the sad vague ones with multiple meanings and nature themes

You’re coming from a good place, but as with the OP, both extremes of this are a duality. One end being vague and the other being explicit, in any specific instance the interpretation of either both exists and does not exist at the same time.

fpbp
Go read a poem nigger

>I'll take my life like I kept it
>Up my sleeves never sounds like you meant it
>Up my sleeves, I'll take my life anyway I can fetish

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So the artist can't intentionally make the poem vague with multiple possible meanings? Retard

It's not an extreme. The "multiple meaning" aspect of a certain piece can be the result of a dissonance in the personality of a person itself. And again, that artwork is going to be a reflection of that mind. Just because you perceive inconsistencies and dualities in a work does not mean that the meaning is open. Much like how the human mind can be understood through psychoanalysis, so can the art with a good enough understanding of the artist, regardless of how vague the art may seem. Man is plagues by doubt, uncertainty, and inner conflict, and when the mind of the artist materialises itself in prose, that prose will be filled with these features too. It does not change the fact that it embodies something real.

the best lyrics are the ones that make me chuckle

It can but there's still predetermined intention behind it. It is not open for interpretation.

You think you're so smart don't you?

Not really. I do think you're an insecure faggot though. Tone down that passive aggressiveness, maybe vent out by sucking a cock like you usually do. Come back when you're collected and have something to contribute to the convo, shitbird.

I can interpret art anyway I want :)

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>It is not open for interpretation.
Why not?

Because it's an expression of the artist's mind. The artist has already decided what he wants to express. If your "interpretation" is different from what the artist intended, it's no different from misinterpreting or mishearing what someone tells you in casual conversation.

language games

What are you gonna do, call the interpretation police and have me arrested?

an intellectual

facts

tacts

No I'm just going to call you out for being the illiterate dumbass that you are for that rush of dopamine knowing I am the superior monkey in the pack.

sex

yes

brainlets detected

Okay then explain why songwriters such as Joanna Newsom, David Byrne, Brian Eno et al have explicitly said that they embrace and encourage different interpretations of their songs beyond what they originally intended??

I’m just talking about the concept itself of vague vs specific. I would probably agree that any one vague thing a person may write could be tied to some specific source, but then there’s the entire other half to any written words, which is what the other everybody-else end reading it gets, and how it is received. Both exist at the same time, the writingas it is coming from the writer and then how it is received by the reader. Something being vague but still technically specific to any one thing may be irrelevant. On that note though, then there’s the approach of writing intentionally ambiguous in the mind of the writer, where the writer themselves might not even know what they are writing. Does that come from somewhere specific? Maybe, but is this a specific thing or is it maybe an amalgamate of multiple things from multiple different places? This could be irrelevant as well.

tax

psypost.org/2019/05/more-intelligent-individuals-are-more-likely-to-enjoy-instrumental-music-study-finds-53723

nypost.com/2019/05/22/smarter-people-listen-to-instrumental-music-study/

bigthink.com/mind-brain/intelligence-instrumental-music

spring.org.uk/2018/07/musical-preference-iq.php

It’s is though. Art is polar opposite to physical sciences and is complete abstraction of outcome. 1+1 will always be 2, but if two different humans take two different meanings from art and then incorporate that meaning into their philosophy, then any action taken upon that philosophy is a real outcome of the art.

Words are just words, there’s the source and there’s the eyes that read them. Both ends are what do anything with them, but neither are any more right than the other. Outside of both of these ends, words mean nothing at all.

What if I went out of my way to make sure it can be interpreted one of 3 ways? Sure, these lyrics seem to be about having a song stuck in your head and exaggerating it beyond absurdity for the sole purpose of being edgy on the surface, but it also can (and should) be interpreted as what a person with childhood abuse goes through as an adult.

I hate retards that think there's only ever one right meaning. The best songs means something different to certain people. People who haven't been told how worthless they are by their caretakers so often that they end up believing it can't interpret it in the latter way, but I'm not going to be assmad when they don't, even if I meant for it to be viewed that way.

>hurr durr i need words to hold my attention
cry louder, bitch

Is this... an intelligent post?

now that's vague and has multiple meaning

see

>can't make a post
>frogposting
>phoneposting
holy shit, go back.

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>I GRIEVE IN STEREO

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I hate how its so hard to tell if someone is trolling or dumb

Its so obvious those studies are 100% meaningless that I can't tell if you're not just posting them to get a rise

The best lyrics are whatever my friends and I decide to sing together :)

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Is that before or after you suck each others cocks?

>not having a sing-a-long blow a thon with ur bros

i guess i'm the brainlet then because instrumental music bores me unless it's really weird and/or interesting sounding
and i basically can't listen to music unless i'm reading the lyrics while i listen

I can't even begin to understand approaching music that way. If I was interested in what someone had to say I would go read a book. Lyrics as a vocal performance are great, complement instruments very well, and can be used as an instrument themselves in certain ways. Lyrics for the sake of what the artist wants to say though? I just don't see the point, music existed in instrumental form long before people started actually using it to express themselves or tell stories, it's fine if they want to do that as an extra but there's no point if the actual music itself isn't very good when ignoring the meaning of the lyrics and just listening to them for the vocal performance.

And to amend my post I shouldn't even have said
>music existed in instrumental form long before people started actually using it to express themselves
because expressing yourself without using words is essentially the core of music. Expressing yourself using language would have been a better thing to say

What if I shart into a bucket and record for the purpose of making a heartfelt, loving homage to classical music? And what if for added artistic points I refuse to tell anyone what I intended it to represent, to allow them to come to the correct conclusion themselves? You better not misinterpret my art, damn pleb.

youtube.com/watch?v=sErp9MCXLPs

or

youtube.com/watch?v=-cUXKKf6my0