Post-grunge

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This album looks like an attempt to copy the Incesticide album cover

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>WAAAAAH MOMMY THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF MY FAVORITE BANDS

Seether were peak unoriginality in all aspects

No, those songs suck redneck

>T. a homosexual white kid from the east coast who has never written a song or plucked a guitar string in his life

Ahem...

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

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>does anyone really actually hate "How You Remind Me" or "It's Been A While"?
Yes. Yes I do.

>Seether is literally the worst
>not Saving Abel, Shinedown, Breaking Benjamin, or Hinder
Pretty much every other WWE-core band. At least Seether has some tolerable riffs

Fair enough.

>Seether is literally the worst
They aren't great, but they named their band after based picrelated's song, so how bad can they really be?

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I think the problem with the label "post-grunge" is that it literally referred to like four different movements.

One was conventional alternative rock bands that were legitimately rooted in the grunge movement - Stone Temple Pilots, Everclear, Foo Fighters, Audioslave, Goo Goo Dolls, Collective Soul, stuff like that.

But it also referred to "butt rock" bands that dressed grunge and sang vaguely like Layne Staley, Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder, or Chris Cornell, but whose music actually had a lot more to do with late 80s pop metal like Bon Jovi. This is most notoriously Creed and Nickelback, but also later bands like My Darkest Days. This is the shit that gets the whole thing a bad reputation.

The third category is this entire wave of angsty alt pop one hit wonders made for coffee shops in the late 90s. Eve 6, Third Eye Blind, New Radicals, Semisonic, The Toadies, Harvey Danger, Cake... yeah, it was shallow and dumb, but for pop music it wasn't a bad time for stock music for coffee shops, malls, and grocery stores.

The thing that happened years later is that the term was applied to indie, punk, and metal bands that took influence from grunge, but didn't ape grunge enough to be labeled grunge. Like The Vines.

1st category isn't great but far more tolerable than 2
3 is kind of lame gen x Portland yuppie shit but it fits
4 is a bit different

Im gonna screenshot this to save as a flawless explanation of this shit. Hell I like i little of the music from each catagory you outlined. Where does the even cornier college rock with grunge roots fall, like Sugar Ray or Hootie? I love that shit.

Yeah wtf is up with like Counting Crows, DMB type shit

>lame gen x Portland yuppie shit
lol well said

thanks bro

Sugar Ray is Cali brocore, nothing grunge about the, they started out as like a funk/rap metal band and then transitioned into....something that would appeal to fans of mainstream RHCP and Incubus I guess

Yeah, it is good explanation.

Where would you put Staind and Puddle of Mudd? Some user yesterday was arguing that those two were actually hybrid of post grunge and nu-metal. You agree? It's an interesting theory, for Staind at least.

Seether is unironically better than Nirvana if you can trade the commercial feel for better production

Lol

I could definitely see that hybrid for Staind, and you could probably put Godsmack in the same camp. But with both of them, I kind of think of them more on the nu metal side, maybe grunge-influenced nu metal.

I don't really know what to say about Puddle of Mudd, my first instinct would be to put them in the Nickelback/Creed category, but obviously they were edgier and less cheesy than those bands.

I'd put both those bands in the third "radio pop" category, though the poster makes a good point about Sugar Ray's funk metal connection. There is that adult alternative part of post-grunge with Hootie, the Dave Matthews Band, Three Doors Down, Matchbox Twenty, and those bands kind of it in category 3 I guess, but they had more staying power than a lot of those one hit wonders for some reason, though they're especially sedate.

Godsmack and Staind both walked the line between post-grunge and nu-metal for sure, both were obviously influenced by shit like Korn but also majorly wanted to be Alice In Chains at the same time

are you actually retarded
this is like unironically saying the monkees are better than the beatles

Daydream Believer is a banger

>he likes bleach

In Utero = Incesticide > MTV Unplugged > Nevermind > Bleach

>Eve 6, Third Eye Blind, New Radicals, Semisonic, The Toadies, Harvey Danger, Cake
I've literally never heard anyone call these bands "post grunge". Are you sure you're not the one who's confused?

>Eve 6, Third Eye Blind, New Radicals, Semisonic, The Toadies, Harvey Danger, Cake
I've literally never heard anyone call these bands "post grunge". What the fuck are you smoking?

TEB is essential post-grunge user. He's smoking sweet mother truthherb.

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>Wikipedia

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Why is Linkin Park never called Post Grunge even though it's closer to Post Grunge bands than it ever was to any Nu Metal Band
Chester's biggest influence was AiC ffs

There is nothing grunge about LP dude...where do you hear that?

Three Days Grace were the best post-grunge band, at least for their first two albums

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>Three Days Grace was the best hunk of shit in the shit museum
not much of an accomplishment, user

Nah this and debut are genuinely great.

Hey, what do you think of this song?: youtu.be/Pa7ODUoQqx8

I see Three Days Grace really as more like alt metal than post-grunge, nothing about the music is reminiscent of grunge to me...nobody is trying to sound like Cobain or Layne or anything

>Alt Metal
I am not sure, I guess their debut comes close to that, but they are closer to Hard Rock.
Man, this is the first time hearing the new vocalist, he isn't as good as the old guy.
I like the riffs, but somehow sounds like it has a low bitrate, it doesn't sound bad, kinda reminds me of Minutes To Midnight Linkin Park? It's probably the vocal melodies and the vocalist giving me those vibes.
It's not bad.

>I am not sure, I guess their debut comes close to that, but they are closer to Hard Rock.
Genre shit always gets tricky, but when I think of "hard rock" I think of like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, KISS, etc etc...Three Days Grace to me is definitely in the realm of "alternative" music but their template is very much more "metal" in the popular sense of the word than say Nirvana or something, like someone earlier ITT brought up the similarity of so called post grunge and late 80's pop metal, TDG has that same quality...but what they lack is anything similar to grunge, where with a band like Nickelback or Seether, obviously they are trying to sound like Nirvana

I get what you mean, but I think their only album that cold be classified under Alt.Metal would be their debut, One-X has some songs like "It's All Over", but rest of the songs are fairly Post-Grungy, especially stuff like "Pain" imho. Riot sounds closer to me to Hard Rock.
Debut has far more riffs they are also far heavier

Seether was good if you accept it for what it is , a South African Nirvana without Kurt's creativity
Their cover of Careless Whisper was decent

>It's not bad
It's trash. Also, I just found out they're the band that does that fucking "I hate everything about you so why do I love you" song, which also fucking sucks. This band sucks, dude.

Okay, I like it.
"I Hate Everything About You" is a fairly good single, I admit that its lyrics are shit, but the vocalist is really great and he steals the show. That acoustic guitar in the verses is cool, the chorus is generic butt-rock fuckery, but the vocal delivery is strong on them so it saves it for me.

No. But some of it is pretty cheesy.

As far as mainstream oriented pop formula rock music goes.....I turn to the board wide hated Three Days Grace over the critical darling Nirvana.

If I'm gonna listen to some fucking melodramatic teen angst shit just and only because it has hooks, I'd prefer it to be not pretentious and just give it to me straight faced.

Yeah, that is a pretty good justification for it, I guess. I do quite like the lyrics on One-X, debut has some really childish shit like literally screaming at his parents for turning off his TV.
One-X seems more genuine, just as melodramatic but about actually topics which are not as dumb, the main singer/lyricist was going through drug problems so he sounds far more sincere there, it is the ultimate angst album.

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