What were they thinking?

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>let's write the greatest, perform and record the greatest 65 minutes of music in history to honour our fallen friend, the incredible musician Cliff Burton

>and let's make sure everyone knows that, by making sure nobody can hear the bass

Are you talking about the lack of bass?

>makes one of the all-time classics of metal
>without bass
>fans don't care, still digging it

Rock-basists worldwide on suicide watch since 1988

>since 1988

more like 1984, when Prince dropped the bassless When Doves Cry and it became the #1 Single in the world

what the fuck is even the reasoning behind turning down the bass? even if bass is playing the same thing as the guitars, it makes the whole thing sound fuller and more powerful when you can actually hear it.

unironically because they decided to be shitheads to the new guy
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fucking /thread

Literally this. No one can replace Cliff and it shows with all post Ride The Lightning Metallica. They can't get over it and it's sad. I bet they "hear him playing bass from heaven" and do this intentionally. Also the fucking drum production on this thing is phenomenal.

>tfw you remember Les Claypool auditioned to replace Cliff after he died

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That's the universe where Gore won in 2000.

underrated post

Yeah, definitely their last good album
Worst part about the album, still a great one tho

Les claypool is a great bass player but he doesn't fit the Metallica mold. Primus was a way better use of his talent.

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reminder that anyone who bitches about the lack of bass on ajfa is a memester parrot. you can barely hear the bass on any of their early albums.

>But, they heard the mix and they went, “Alright, take the bass down, change this this this and this, and then take the bass down.” So you can barely hear it. And then once they’ve done that they said, “Take it another 3dB down.” Why they did that — I have no idea! It could be that they were still grieving about Cliff. I have no idea. But imagine my surprise when I heard the album. I was like, “What the… What?!”
They were being dicks to Jason on top of James and Lars getting into a DUCK SEASON/WABBIT SEASON pattern so their parts could be louder. I love the album but I can't respect anyone that thinks it's in any way better than RTL or MoP

You should get your ears checked if you honestly hear no difference in Cliff and Jason’s bass mixes.

>you can barely hear the bass on any of their early albums.
You're retarded, the bass is always audible even in the sections where it's so overdriven that it sounds like a lead

I think lars removed it because he was afraid no one could play like Cliff

Listen to for whom the bell tolls, orion and call of ktulu again user

listen to any of the bass tracks ripped from guitar hero for those songs (minus ktulu which doesn't exist). try to tell me with a straight face you could hear any of those bass fills on the album mix.

fuckin idiots itt

oh ya and on ktulu you can only really hear the bass when he rapes the fuck out of the wah pedal

i thought these sounds were screams when i was a kid

Why doesn't anyone complain about lack of bagpipes?

I can hear the bass just fine on their first 3 albums. It's not up front or anything but if you listen it's pretty clearly audible.

WHAT WERE THEY THINKINGGGGGG???

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>fuckin idiot itt
fixed that for (You), deafanon

Just listened to this today, no regrets, no bad music, absolute perfection.

>i read a meme opinion on the internet over and over
>i cannot fathom anything else

Go and listen right now to any song off of Metallica’s first three albums, and then a song off AJFA, and come back and tell me that the bass is mixed the same

But Jason sucks

Jason wasn’t the greatest, but come on, he was better than the spic they have now.

HAMMER OF JUSTICE CRUSHES YOU, OVERPOWER!

honestly this is cool af. I wish Metallica would come out and say "turning the bass down was our way of saying no one could ever match the greatness of Cliff". All arguments would be shut down from that moment on.

fuck you Jason was great. His backing vocals and presence are missed in their live shows

This. Fuck spics. Metallica is supposed to be a White European band.

It’d be even cooler if they did a rerelease of AJFA with the bass track actually turned on.

no it wouldn't because it was still a retarded decision that ultimately hurt the album and grief is not a good explanation for it let alone a good justification

His bass ‘playing’ sure isn’t

what are you talking about. making a instrument completely inaudible for your fallen brother is metal as fuck. also, how did it hurt the album? the record is considered a classic

DARKNESS
IMPRISONING ME
ALL THAT I SEE

I prefer Jason to Rob. Yea he just follows the rhythm guitars but I like the way it sounds. I've always liked bass playing with a pick vs fingering. Just a personal preference so I don't have any defense against it

LEFT ME WITH LIFE IN HEEEEELLLL!!!!

>making a instrument completely inaudible for your fallen brother is metal as fuck.
In what way? All it served to do was to fuck over their replacement bassist. And yeah the album is a classic but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect. The shitty mix could have been avoided.

Making a butt load of money. Which they did.

>the record is considered a classic
doesn't mean it's perfect, dingus

if they wanted to be cute they shouldn't have hired a bassist for the album in the first place

Robs best years were with suicidal tendencies

Exactly. Doesn't have to be perfect to be a classic. Without that missing bass element it would just be another 'Tallica record in their prime. By removing the bass it sends a loud fuck you to the universe for taking their friend and makes the album a more potent statement. That's why it's metal as fuck. There's real anger there. Enough so that they would sabotage their careers as a tribute to Cliff.

Can't argue with that lol

That’s pretty stupid, I hope you don’t seriously believe all that

Then why even hire a fucking bassist you mong.

that's the faggiest thing I've ever read
it's okay for albums you like to be flawed you know

I do. I prefer artists that do stupid shit versus following the predictable path. People are still arguing about this shit after 30 years! 30 fucking years! Mission accomplished. True art causes a reaction whether positive or negative.

As much as I hate St. Anger, I think their intention with that record was admirable. The problem with that one was the songwriting.

I'm not arguing that it's not flawed?

I mean isn't it obvious in the way they took out their anger and trauma on Jason? He was a punching bag so the money machine wouldn't slow down

Oh, and of course I would have preferred to "hear the bass". I just appreciate that they didn't give a fuck

And one last point, I'm old enough to remember a time when the AJFA lack of bass wasn't a big deal. It seems like it didn't begin to happen until we entered the digital age and everyone had access to programs that could analyze the audio.

fucking this, gay nigger trolling faggots was gold

>By removing the bass it sends a loud fuck you to the universe for taking their friend and makes the album a more potent statement.
You could interpret it that way. Or you could say they were being petulant and stupid and letting out their grief in an unreasoned fashion with no artistic intent behind it whatsoever.
>"Waa our friend died!!! turn down that bass!!! also fuck you Jason >:(((("
Wow so metal.

I said earlier that I wish they would say that. Obviously they haven't hence why this discussion still happens

Justice for Jason!

only in ajfa. from there onwards the bass was more audible than ever