Is music a fucking joke now?

Is music a fucking joke now?

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Who care they're both pop artists for teenage girls

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>xD le beatles pop artists for teenage girls
What new recording technique did Drake make? Who is Drake's favorite Avant-garde
composers? Name me some Drake songs with asymmetric time signatures and complex changes.

Beatles are a cultural icon. Drake is not, and never will be.
The only person that has that status in music nowadays is Kanye West, just because you have a lot of plays/sales doesn’t mean you’re that important.

boomer cope

I’ve never even heard a full Beatles album.

no one gives half a shit, you fucking nerd

>What new recording technique did Drake make?
why are you even mentioning drake? you honestly sound like a youtube comment...

Check the OP.

All music is for teenage girls

Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FUCKING BASED
DRAKE HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST ZAPPA-ESQUE ARTIST ALIVE TODAY THE BEATLEFAG SEETHE IS GLORIOUS
GODS PLAN GODS PLAN

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damn teenage girls in the 60s were kinda patrish then

>m-muh complexity ;_;
shut up nerd

are you retarded

If you're not making music for teenage girls you're doing it wrong.

this

Wasn't that the Velvet Underground? Didn't Lou Reed say he intentionally whitewashed rock and blues?

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>Name me some Drake songs with asymmetric time signatures and complex changes.
you cannot make this shit up
wake up boomer everyone is laughing at you

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>I got more slaps
Not a native English speaker, what does that mean?

girlfriends/wives

A "slap" when talking about a song is like calling it a "hit". It's a really catchy song

>le technique
>le complexitie
shut up nerd

he has beat more women than john lennon

rap is not music
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Jerry Garcia does not decide what is and is not music, boomer.

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Drake, based as always.

The fact that so many books DON'T name Drake as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rapper ever only tells you how far rap music still is from becoming a serious art.

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>A professional musician can not tell if something is music or not
Absolutely wrong. That's like going to a professional chef and telling them that they don't know if something is food or not.

>rapping isn't music its talking!
>singing isn't music its talking!
>electronic isn't music, it's a computer talking!
eat shit retard

obviously some of them can't since not all of them would agree

>what he said
>strawman
>strawman
nice retort

To be fully fair with Aubrey here, he DID get more slaps than the beatles.

>food analogy

>food analogy

>now

huh

If rapping isn't music because it's
talking, then singing can't logically be considered music, either. Refute this.

>The only person that has that status in music nowadays is Fred Durst
there, I think everyone can agree with that

Beatle-esque
Zappa-esque

>she was just seventeen / you know what i mean
>high school pics, you was bad even back then

makes you think

>I USED TO BE CRUEL TO MY WOMAN
>I BEAT HER
what did john lennon mean by this?

Singing is much different than rapping, retard. You can't compare something that takes skill and practice to sound good to something that is just speaking over a beat.

>something that takes skill and practice
like rapping

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>rapping doesnt take skill and practice
you're an idiot, dude. prove your thesis and record a rap for us.

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Stop sucking Scaruffi dick faggots

Jerry will do what he godamn please

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Talking requires practice from children, I suppose. It doesn't really take much more than that.
I would never stoop that low.

children can sing too

>First I'll buy some beads
>And then perhaps a leather band
>To go around my head
>Some feathers and bells
>And a book of Indian lore
>I will ask the Chamber Of Commerce
>How to get to Haight Street
>And smoke an awful lot of dope
>I will wander around barefoot
>I will have a psychedelic gleam in my eye at all times
>I will love everyone
>I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the street
>I will sleep...
>I will, I will go to a house
>That's, that's what I will do
>I will go to a house
>Where there's a rock & roll band
>'Cause the groups all live together
>And I will join a rock & roll band
>I will be their road manager
>And I will stay there with them
>And I will get the crabs
>But I won't care
What did deadheads all over America mean by this?
Copout, if it really takes no practice at all every rapper ever would be rich and famous.

Skilled children can.

>I got more slaps than the beatles
John Lennon slapped his wife more than Drake ever could

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most children can

Yes, but soon all shall be rectified.

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Pic related-ed

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don’t worry the zoomies don’t have the IQ necessary to respond to you with anything more than memes and ironic laughter.
they listen to emo rap and think it’s good. they are a joke and not even a funny one, a sad one.

Jesus Christ how embarrassing

Now kiss.

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

Cherry Garcia is delicious, fuck off

singing incorporates melodic elements by default you retard

not in tune they can’t

see? memes
thanks for proving my point

prove that the average child can rap on time

a singers voice is a human instrument. rap is someone talking.

Most rappers are famous nowadays. It's like an easy door to success while requiring no effort.
Not really.

a rappers voice is a human instrument

And rapping incorporates elements of timing, flow, and tempo.

>kissing is a meme
Is having sex a "meme" too, incel?

A rappers voice is a human instrument too.

>Not really.
prove that the average child can ‘really’ rap

There are more derivative, literally who rappers who didn't make it than there are rappers who made it. If rapping is an easy door to success, why haven't you begun a career as a rapper? Do you like leading a difficult life?

that’s the opposite of my point
stay in school kiddo

retard

>he doesn’t know about “have sex” memeing
first day here?

no u

a musical instrument creates musical elements. talking is has never been one of them.
it can be put over music, like a sound effect. but it isn't music in an of itself.

>no u

yes it has
see: rap music

man when did it even become possible to argue The Beatles are anything but terrible on Yea Forums?. i remember coming here like 7 years ago and having my mind blown that The Beatles weren't the be-all-and-end-all of music and got straight on to krautrock, now people unironically defend the dadrock canon. it's so boring

>the physical act of copulation is, itself, a meme.
"No!"

Talking isn't an instrument.
also
>incel buzzword
argument nullified.
>89449461
If the child can talk on beat, they can rap.
Again, I would never stoop so low.

life isn't about """"""""fun"""""""" it's about owning the zoomers epic style

"rap music" is music (melody, percussion, chord progression etc) with rap over it, take the backing track out of it and it is just a man talking.

The need to rap *to* the beat to really rap.

>copes and copouts
Argument nullified

most rappers aren't industry plants like aubrey

wrong

>>incel buzzword
>argument nullified.
do you have sex though?

Not really that hard of a thing to do, is it?
Your buzzwords aren't proving me wrong.

fpbp

That's true, most rappers aren't industry plants. They're talented musicians.

You're proving yourself wrong with every post, I don't really need to.

I don't know. I think most would be pretty bad.

how so

you first

prove all of us wrong and post conclusive evidence you've had sex

>no u
So you're out of arguments?
Rap is pretty bad.
You first.

This wasnt an argument to start with, it was me battling over semantics with a literal retard.

>Rap is pretty bad.
irrelevant

check mom's room, there's tons of my pubes in her teeth

have sex

>talentless hack gets a tattoo of other talentless hacks
wow it's fucking nothing

the world is a joke

I’ve listened to almost 400 albums from the 2010s over the course of the last 6 months, my taste stretches for miles over every genre you can conceive of.
pop, alt-r&b, post-hardcore, complextro, j-pop, atmospheric drum and bass, atmospheric black metal, trap (rap and EDM), tribal ambient, modern country, post-minimalism, heavy psych rock.
yet despite all of this, I’m still aware that the Beatles are the greatest rock band of all time.

I get it, I really do. I’m a contrarian but sometimes I go full circle and like popular things because I know I’m expected not to.

Ooooops.
Nice try though... faggot

No, no they’re not.
And I don’t even like the Beatles

NPCs and boomers have started coming here more often after the gamergate scandal and 2016 election. Most of old Yea Forums who had actual taste has moved on.

please dont tell me that tat is actually real

He's outsold them and got higher records nothing wrong with the tattoo.
>waaaah drake doesn't make music as complex
You know there are artists who make more complex than the Beatles right, where's your complaints now?
Morons.

Bunch of low IQ boomers who need some insulin.

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That’s the problem, you are consuming too much and thinking too little

Holy shit, that is peak "rent free".

Seems like you need to dilate, tranny.

Nothing like that at all, idiot child.
It’s like going to a chef and asking what he recommends.
In his opinion, a burger is not food. Great. But is it a universal truth.
Music is a broad church, you’re a cunt who nobody likes.
Nobody. Not even your parents. Not really, if they are being truthful. Now fuck off somewhere else, you huge disappointment.

boomers btfo

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He meant that you should fuck off and die

>americans can only form a cohesive argument if it involves burgers somehow
jesus, how fat is your country amerilards

What? Moron

unchecked and underrated

I’m a musician so I can appreciate all sorts of music.
I’m thinking exactly as much as I need to, no more no less

He said DILATE, maybe you need a pair of glasses?

This can't be considered a joke. Numbers don't lie, and he is more successful than your beloved Beatles

Cope

*IV iv I’s in your path*

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When did Yea Forums become a place for kanyetothe posters to dump the shitposts they don’t want associated with their lame pseud usernames?

hahahahaahaaaaa he said incel

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toy clearly arent thinking enough if you think listening to a lot of music and or being a musician gives you a pass for having terrible opinions, or even worse, classify anything as edm

Am I supposed to feel bad for this creep? You incels are fucked in the head, keep seething.

True. But his albums from just this decade are already starting to age pretty poorly, and it won’t be long until there’s another shift and a new superstar more embedded in social media, streaming and memes. He’s already getting fucked up by Lil Nas X off a fucking joke. Ditching quality for stats was a bad call, shame on Meek for sending him into an early midlife crisis.

he said incel again lol

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Actually, UK tard here. 11pm, and drinking a fine Pinot Noir. But point taken.

Seriously even my boomer film teacher would say the beatles were "bubblegum pop"

go suck his dick?

Why aren't you listening to actual avant-garde composers if you are so interested in musical progress?

Oh no, batten down the hatches everyone, the seething /pol/lack is dumping his nigger folder!

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music died with boulez

just say incel again

Drake is a trend setter just like the beetles and he makes hits just like they did. Also dude listens to plenty of underground hip hop and oldie soul music. Imagine thinking he doesn't know music just because he's drake. Go cry on a youtube comment about drake and wayne please.

Or how about you grow a braincell, the beatles weren't even great musicians they just rode on lennons music writing abilities.

>lennon
funny way of spelling George Martin, George Harrison and Paul McCartney

rich coming from someone who thinks Drake is SOoO much better than them

You'd like that, wouldn't you? It's not healthy to fetishize your anger issues.

people who are against sampling are the funniest group considering all the music in the 50s 60s and 70s were just stolen from tha niggas

I would like it, lol, why stop now?

Because you want me to.

hahahahahaah he won't say it

Practically everything is stolen in one way or another, absolute originality is a meme. Everything is derivative of something.

Boulez died like 3 years ago, so that leaves you with plenty of music to explore.

already did

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shoo stupid boomer, shoo

seething

Cope, bet you've never even attended the premiere of any pieces.

None of that changes the fact he's statistically better.

>Cope
for what
>bet you've never even attended the premiere of any pieces
so? you didn't either

>even though music is more widespread and accessible now, drake is better than the beatles because he’s more popular in current year!

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Beatles level of quality was assessed the same way, by number of people who love them

Did Drake go to India and learn how to play the sitar? No?

>Did Beatles play with such complexity as x artist? No?
Notice how you can do this over and over and it still won't be an argument

>when every bad constituent part of zoomer and boomer Yea Forums collides horrifically and results in an untamed shitshow of a thread like this

this thread reeks of reddit

Not as much as you do.

t. Seething trap producer

>You know there are artists who make more complex than the Beatles right
No shit you fucking idiot. That isn’t the argument though.

I wonder if he creampied Millie Bobby Brown.

>now
as if Drake hasn't been relevant in the mainstream for 10 fucking years.

YES,FOLLOW AUTHORITIES,OBEY YOUR SUPERIORS
THEY KNOW MORE THAN YOU,DONT DARE THINK YOURSELF,MASTERS ARE ALREADY DOING IT FOR YOU

more like western culture in general

>calls others out for using memes
>likes a decades old meme
laffin

YES I ALSO LIKE THE ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE!THE SECOND BEST BAND IS LED ZEPPELIN AND THE THIRD IS QUEEN
NOT MY GENERATION!Like if you agree

first post
best post

it doesn’t give me a pass but it lowers my threshold of “good” significantly. I enjoyed a vast majority of those 400+ albums (and that’s just from my recent 2010s binge).
I also don’t give a fuck what people think of my taste because I’m no longer a child and I like what I like. it’s not that serious. I bet you like all sorts of shitty music that you think is great, but oh well you aren’t me, so it doesn’t affect me at all.

the musician aspect just means that I can appreciate all sorts of styles because I can comprehend them on a compositional basis and judge them on their (highly subjective) artistic merits.

I’m sorry you don’t like the Beatles, you’re missing out on one of the greatest, most important and influential bands in music history. and I have a feeling that it’s not for the right reasons either. but again, oh well you aren’t me so it doesn’t matter to me at all. it’s your loss.

Literally the opinion of someone who never grew out of being a child.

there are more people alive today and more retards are being pumped out every second, the type of retard that listens to the radio regularly and listens to nothing but hip hop and r&b. I can’t imagine only liking one or two genres of music, it’s so limiting. honestly it makes me really sad to think about.
expand your horizons, it’s so easy these days and the sky is the limit.

I don’t agree with those. Zeppelin do have a lot of classic albums, but Queen only have Queen II and a number of excellent singles.
I don’t honestly know what the second best band is, I just know that The Beatles are #1. and I know for damn sure that it’s not The Rolling Stones, which would be the traditional answer, although plenty of boomers think it’s the other way around but the Stones blow. also Bob Dylan is shit.

see? I am a contrarian.

Imagine thinking Drake has anywhere near the musical value of The Beatles

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Imagine NOT thinking this AND being a mass replying scumbag

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Galaxy iq

thanks for the (You), that $0.02 will make sure my shilldren will eat tonight.

I was arguing in favor of the Beatles so you might’ve fucked up somewhere along the way.

At least Drake plays live

Shut the fuck up before I dust your kneecaps, boomer.

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>at least drake talks rhythmically on stage with a recording playing over a big PA system
fixed that for you

This thread is a fucking joke!