>Chopin was a special soul, a prophet, the reincarnation of Raphael and Novalis, and in his musical colors revealed the imperceptible, the inaudible, unspeakable Absolute >Scriabin was closest to the esoteric truth behind all things in his early period, under the embrace of Chopin's soul as Sophie under Novalis, and by a hubris brought on by realizing this, as well as the harmful influence of people like Blavatsky, he strayed from his path and tried to will directly into existence what can only be evoked in subtle hints and fragments, for which his life had to end prematurely
Popular music is any music that is stored by recording, then sold. So a CD thats content is a compilation of classical pieces, it's still considered popular music.
Art music is any music that is stored and passed down in composition/notation/written form. You could make art music right now simply by writing a simple composition on a piece of paper.
What piano lacks is clarity, resulted by the hammer action. Just compare its sound to plucked instruments like guitar and bowed strings. That's why it works best for dreamy and sombre music but completely fails to create as lively and magnificent sounds.
Austin Butler
sometimes I miss paragraph autist, really made me listening into Hans Pfitzner
Tyler Smith
Just make a markov chain out his posts, can't be that different.
Daniel Jackson
A good pianist gets around that. And there's different pianos with different sounds
Bentley Long
What happened
Samuel Perry
What the fuck why is this in two threads and why is one of my posts here
Wim told his pilot brother that he could fly half as quick to reach the historical accurate tempo for old planes. If you really care he just uploaded a video about it. youtube.com/watch?v=C59GzN_uNCQ
Evan Hughes
Lmao no I don't care but thanks for the laugh anyways
a theme and variations is just that, a theme and then variations on that theme a passacaglia is a piece thats built around a bass line that repeats continuously
Cooper Collins
Why is classical so fucking good bros goddamn I can't get enough of this shit it's like sex in my ears
Sorry, i posted this same piece alot of times already, but i just can't forget this piece, someone said in the last thread that the only people who "truly" understood harmony were Monteverdi, Bach and Debussy
Fuck Debussy, if there's someone who understood harmony like Bach and Monteverdi, that has to be Lotti in this piece alone
Uh, the third one in the harmony trinity's already Mozart
Hunter Martinez
>Lyrical melody over alberti bass Wow such an harmony, i love Mozart there's nothing in the classical era or romantic era that can compete with that Lotti piece in terms of pure Harmony Sorry man i didn't want to shit on Mozart but thats just the way it is
Adam Lewis
>i love Mozart there's I love Mozart BUT there's**
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaconne >In actual usage in music history, the term "chaconne" has not been so clearly distinguished from passacaglia as regards the way the given piece of music is constructed, and "modern attempts to arrive at a clear distinction are arbitrary and historically unfounded."[8] In fact, the two genres were sometimes combined in a single composition, as in the "Cento partite sopra passacagli", from Toccate d’intavolatura di cimbalo et organo, partite di diverse arie ... (1637), by Girolamo Frescobaldi, and the first suite of Les Nations (1726) as well as in the Pièces de Violes (1728) by François Couperin.[9] They're the same but also different depending on who you ask.
>What is melody? This is one of many dubious questions, debated over the centuries by critics, aestheticians, and those hostile to changes in compositional method or intent. As everyone knows, the question is usually raised not in order to demonstrate that something is melody but rather that it isn't. did you know?
Henry White
In what order should I read Schoenberg's theory books?
Just check the entire Simphoniae Sacrae I Here's another highlight Fili mi, Absalon youtu.be/bjRfof7WsHo
Brayden Russell
Im doing it right NOW. Thank you.
Asher Parker
Thats pretty good, how come I never heard of him uptill now?
Elijah Robinson
Early Baroque (1600-1650) its a very ignored period i think, it is neither Renaissance, it is neither Baroque in the common sense, the music its still Modal but you already can hear a Tonal pulse so to say its a very strange and interesting period
Joshua Carter
the only down side is that he is a protestant. God I hate those heretics
Anthony Smith
>being a LARPing christcuck faggot >not ascending via theosophy
Nietzsche was a shit composer and himself admitted it. When he sent his work to Wagner for them to play, instead of listening Wagner lay on the floor laughing in another room. He got roasted so hard by Bülow, who did admire his writing, when he sent him his Manfred Meditations that he became afraid of touching the piano again.
Ryder Stewart
Do you notice any subtle differences between the way women play instrumental pieces compared to men?
Why yes, my Trinity does consist of Bach, Rameau and Mozart. What Trinity could be complete without representation of the French School? And who is the founder of that school besides Rameau?
its a percussion instrument, what do you expect? piano has a very low freq spectrum the highest note is something around 4k that's middleground for guitars and strings
I must admit, I am not a fan of Symphonies in general, but Mahlers 5th and Schummans 4th are surreal.
Isaiah Cooper
>not a fan of Symphonies in general literally the best genre by far (judging by your post you should try Scriabin's 3rd, Tchaikovsky's 4th/7th and Dvorak's 8th/9th)
Aiden Martin
the jews that walked the desert weren't the Cohens and the Lebrowskis of the world. They were shitskinned and hobbitfooted proper semites
still that's pretty fucked up, what did she even do, lay under a fucking magnifying glass
Mozart youtube.com/watch?v=mZTsKujnmls >listening to link >22:52 hits >start to fucking cry I can't do this it's so beautiful. How the fuck did he do it
you're stupid! that sounds nothing like ode to joy!
Juan Sanders
Beethoven fuck off
Isaac Bailey
Gardiner's Beethoven 5 is so bad.
Jack Wright
Beethoven 5 is so bad.
Charles Kelly
Brainlet
>Almost all of the ants that you see are sterile females. In general, an ant colony has one queen, who gives birth to hundreds or thousands or even millions of offspring, most of which are non-reproducing females.
No, but of course his life history of killing his wife has helped a little in his popularity i think Here's Robert Craft and Stravinsky, both were huge Gesualdo admirers
You mean where I get the music and record it? Glière is pretty good and so is that concerto I disagree, they're pretty ok overall, nothing amazing, also a big part of his recordings comes from other labels (like Delos, for example). This
Lucas Young
Also guys starting from today I will upload the symphonies of Per Norgård
Easton Baker
Also I'm already selecting the recordings of the symphonies of CP.E. Bach for October
No, they're not, i see plenty of recordings and plenty of views, come back to /classical/ when you have something that is truly underrated, meanwhile stick to r/classicalmusic
Parker Price
Just what this general needs: less people.
Michael Phillips
Yes
Wyatt Gonzalez
It doesn't need less people, it just needs the people who aren't retarded to post more.
Sebastian Miller
Nigga no one ever talks about them here. Ever What you want, Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum or something Or is that not underrated enough because you know the name
Tyler Ward
Sorabji is overrated, the man had no feeling for Harmony
>Sorabji is overrated Literally almost nobody likes Sorabji except for about 10 fanboys. >the man had no feeling for Harmony Absolute bullshit and even if that was right maybe because that isn't the point and harmony and melody are completely equalized in his music and is full of arabesques, stylistically similar to Scriabin, Szymanowski, Debussy, etc.
Tyler Baker
>Scriabin He had feeling for Harmony but his music is full of filler >Debussy Hack and overrated >Szymanowski Now this is an underrated and good composer
Parker Reyes
Examples? I've never heard a Rameau piece that made me think it belonged to an entirely different school from other Baroque music. Personally, Scarlatti seems like the most distinctive Baroque composer to me.
>That Homophonic texture in 0:53 after the breathtaking chain of suspensions what an amazing piece of music, but i'm not a big fan of the picardy third at the end, I hate these kind of "subvertive" endings
Jackson Stewart
>complaining about a picardy third
What the hell?
Mason Perez
What an incredible sound for a 1928 recording, holy fuck
i think it's supposed to represent the end of the world, i know it occurs at the end of gotterdammerung and the duet in the prelude
any god tier wagner anons know other places?
Blake Sanders
As far as I know it only happens there. It's an extremely unique shiny 5 star rarity-tier motif. BUT Wagner also used it outside of the Ring. I think it represents Love (this motif plays at the end after Brunhilde managed to overcome the Ring's curse because of her guilt and love for Siegfried, and give birth to a "godless" world after she gave the Ring back of her own volition and asked the ravens to take the flaming woods to Walhal and burn everyone. It might as well represent the birth of a new world governed by Love instead of the old gods. Of course it also plays when Sieglinde regains her will to live once Brunhilde tells her she is pregnant of Siegfried). Anyway, to further prove my case, Wagner would play that motif on his piano and tell his wife Cosima "that is you". So if the motif represents her, it may as well be a general representaion of Love. Also he named his child with her Siegfried lmao. He wrote this small piece using the motif for Cosima's birthday (or was it Christmas? I think he wrote this for her birthday and the Siegfried Idyll for christmas.) youtube.com/watch?v=R41Wc2nSrbs Bonus, have my favorite recording of the Idyll: youtube.com/watch?v=zgYM-olUVxo
why are all of Wordsworth Classics' covers such shit
Carter Morgan
Because he knew Bach already fucked up his own popularity by composing contrapunctual music
Dominic Smith
pleb filter
Matthew Sanders
What does that say about Parsifal?
Jack Nguyen
this makes no sense
Kayden Rogers
pleb
Dominic Gonzalez
Parsifal was the primary reason I bought it, while using the Ring essays as an introduction, so as to be sure of the story line/mythology. All I can say is I recommend it. It really fleshed out everything for me, as I was in a mode of investigating grail lore and listening to the opera often. Such a subject, what can I type that would do it justice?
It's just because I've read so much on Parsifal already so I'm wondering what else it can provide Does it touch on that fan-theory of sorts that Kundry is Brunnhilde reincarnated and connects a Rheingold - Walküre - Siegfried- Götterdämmerung - Parsifal - Lohengrin hexalogy?
The Ring is def set apart from Parsifal. Perhaps Parsifal is treated as a maturation, a capstone of his concepts. My take was that Parsifal was the encapsulation of a lot of the themes he had always had in play. So, Kundry was another variation on the Brunnhilde themes. Great stuff. Always gets the noggin' joggin'. Got any favorite reads on Parsifal, in particular?
If you haven't yet checked out Monsavalt then I'd rec that. A whole site made by one aficionado full of commentary on Parfisal. He translated the whole libretto himself because he wasn't satisfied with previous existing translations monsalvat.no/index.htm
The only composers I enjoy are Webern, Messiaen, Debussy and Satie. I've listened to Bach/Beethoven/Mozart, as well as a bunch of romantic composers (Dvorak, Wagner, Brahms, Mahler and some Schoenberg) but I don't like them at all as much as the aforementioned. Pls recc some composers I could like. I also dig some late Medieval and Renaissance music.
Haven’t been very impressed by Mozart’s symphonies outside 38, 40 and 41st. Somehow had skipped 39. Put it on and had to literally stop listening because the genius was overwhelming. Had to come back the next night. Then I realized, my soul seems to respond almost exclusively to minor keys. Curious!
Mason Nguyen
Fricsay does such a good Mozart holy fuck
Nathan Morgan
Most of Mozart's music is far too cutesy-wutesy to be taken as seriously as it is, and the fact is that even when he occasionally tried to inject some darker colors into his music, it somehow usually still ends up sounding all light and fluffy (with a few rare exceptions). Without any real contrast between the light and the dark, the music ends up just staying in the same place all the time, and it never actually takes the listener anywhere. This is a HUGE flaw. Look at Beethoven or Schubert or Tchaikovsky, on the other hand, and these guys understood how to use that light/dark e*motion*al contrast to a masterful degree (indeed they were some of the very best at this in all of classical music, even if they did each have their minor flaws). Compared to them, composers like Mozart and Haydn and Bach – as technically proficient as they were – are downright monotone. Even if I forced myself to listen to piece after piece by one of these composers for hours on end, the light/dark movement within their music could quite literally remain at zero the entire time. The fact is that technical skill alone doesn't accomplish anything unless it helps the music to actually go somewhere. Otherwise, it's just wankery.
Ethan Roberts
>underrating Haydn stopped reading right there
Mason Wood
>>Scriabin >He had feeling for Harmony but his music is full of filler cringe
>>Szymanowski >Now this is an underrated and good composer turbobased
Benjamin Lewis
Why did you quote the same post thrice you mega nigger
Bentley Torres
if you really want to know its because i highlighted what i wanted to quote but messed up so i deleted my greentext. then i highlighted it again thus giving 2 replies in the beginning. then i highlighted the second part and hit reply again to avoid having to copy/paste and put my own greentext symbol therefore resulting in 3 replies
Robert Wood
Based
Michael Long
Alright niggers consider the dog fucking dead
Noah Morales
Your posts are full of filler; you've not said a sensible thing except for identifying Szymanowski as a good composer.
Leo Brown
I don't like dogs.
Jaxon Lewis
>not selecting the whole post and clicking once me > y*u
Is it a part of the western classical tradition and a part of these institutions? No? Then fuck off
Carter Long
New
Isaac Lopez
It kind of is though. It's just a performance of the piece recorded by the composer and DAW, which wasn't possible in the past. Otherwise it wouldn't really be out of place among contemporary classical choir music.
