Maybe I'm the only one...

Maybe I'm the only one, but I feel kinda"illegitimate" to appreciate this album since it's essentially made for black people. I used to enjoy it a lot, and then I realize that I wasn't concerned by what was said in the lyrics for the most part. How can I break apart from this feeling ?

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Listen to DAMN instead, I guess, since it's Kendrick's least race-oriented album. I mean, that doesn't necessarily stop me from liking an album - GKMC is probably my favourite hip-hop album of the decade - but yeah sometimes it detracts from feeling a strong connection to the music.

This is not a place for serious music discussion. I recommend you visit reddit.com/r/hiphopheads.

that sub is filled with a bunch of faggots, even by reddit's standards

I think to some degree there is a universality to it's themes of feeling alienated, downtrodden and frustrated with your subjucation by a higher order.

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Just replace "black" with "non elites" and "gang related death" with "eternal busy work to keep us in our place"

Damn sucks. Gkmc is pretty good

I know, but I'm just saying that DAMN is the least focused on race, so if that topic makes OP feel a bit 'excluded' or detached then DAMN is an alternative.

Art doesn't have to be relatable to be enjoyable. You can appreciate it like one appreciates a biographical book or film, just lose yourself in the story and the themes without worrying too much about how it translates to your reality. And don't worry about the target audience, once an artist puts out their work into the world, they don't have any control over who enjoys it and why. Fuck Kendrick or anyone who tries to take this album away from you. I personally look at TPAB almost like an ethnographic study on american black youths and that's enough for me to sustain some kind of interest. You just gotta find your angle.

>DAMN.
>Kendrick's least race-oriented album
how

This is how I feel about rap in general. I'm not saying that it is a valid form of music. However, what I don't understand is how other white people enjoy or feel connected to a genre of music that they are not even allowed to sing all of the words to without facing public disdain. I remember in the early 2010's when all the kids were talking about "Blank in Paris by Kanye and Jay-Z." It's reallt silly. It's clear that white people aren't wanted in that scene, so why do they persist.

*i'm not saying that it is not a valid form

exactly. thats where you should go

how is tpab or gkmc? just because it's the least doesnt mean it's not at all.

In order to avoid appropriation I do my best to ignore all black cultural output

Black man here.

I also can't COMPLETELY connect to what Kendrick is saying because I'm not African American, I'm Nigerian.

Still, as a Black man, certain of the messages he says still concern me.

You should feel the same. Afterall, Kendrick's album is not 100% pro-Black. He also talks about his own struggle with his life, his depression etc... and you can still connect to this I guess?

Certain messages, even if addressed to a specific group, are sometimes universal. When Fela Kuti talks about the importance of tradition in modern times, White conservatives can relate. When Fela Kuti talks about corruption in Nigerian society, everyone can relate to some degrees(depending on the corruption in your country), When Fela Kuti talks about pan-Africanism and Black unity, White nationalists can relate.

It's all relative.

Because Hip Hop is not a scene anymore, Hip Hop is mainstream. And the black community and black artists are gonna have to deal with all the shit that comes with it, be it loads of money, Doritos commercials and SNL appearances or a white kid from Ohio singing Niggas in Paris. They don't get a say in who listens to their music anymore and no twitter tantrum will change that.

Why do you care if it’s not for you? If you like the music just listen to it and don’t let politics or social shit ruin your enjoyment. Even if it’s a political message you hopefully have enough empathy to understand it and feel it without necessarily relating to it in the way you’re “supposed to”.

This

>black man here

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Fair point well expressed user, Kendrick brings people together. I saw him in Holland and the crowd was diverse as fuck. Everyone knew the lyrics and had a great time where I was in the nosebleeds despite being in shitter seats than others which says alot about his performance. I'm white and I like it, I don't have to 'get' all of it to like the music. There's something there for everyone. I'm Irish too but it's not like I care if people are into U2 or Thin Lizzy. I mention Thin Lizzy because Phil Lynott the singer was half black and his pictures still get defaced by racist idiot teens which irks me. Casual racism is still a thing everywhere depending on who you associate with. That should equal out your 'guilt' about listening to what you class as 'black' music

>Fair point well expressed user, Kendrick brings people together. I saw him in Holland and the crowd was diverse as fuck. Everyone knew the lyrics and had a great time
Just as long as no white girls say "nigga" while singing the song, right?

>Phil Lynott
You mean Frank Zappa with an Afro haircut?

yeah I think that's the point mate

Heheh yea I saw that video alright, a little harsh but I guess he got his point across without the girl getting too much slack. Well maybe I'm wrong but it was just like she got schooled, it wasn't like a Justine Saco thing where her whole life was practically ruined within a couple of hours because of twitter.

The Dutch girl beside me in the nosebleeds had no qualms about singing 'nigga' but I guess the standing ticketer's may have been more careful. I was pretty stoned so forgot most of the lyrics and was freaked out by the steep incline. I loosened up after a bit though.

Now that you mention it there is quite a resemblance alright heheh

Yeah, humiliating a young and nervous girl that's flustered at being on stage with an artist she loved in front of tens of thousands of people because of one word she said definitely is probably "a little harsh". I mean, I'd say it's very fucking harsh, not just a "little", but whatever, gotta defend the culture from these evil white people.

Kendrick should learn from SchoolBoy Q.
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Just listen to it, Jesus Christ. I guess you also don't watch "black" movies?

damn I actually kinda want to listen to his music now

Not the best move, he was probably knocked down a peg in people's estimations of him. It's weird that I defended him there alright as I did find it disillusioned me from the fact that he's just a flawed human like the rest of us. The girl deserve more compassion and I hope she's OK.

OK! JEEZ! Fuckin guiltified by internet anons for sharing opinion. Heheh