Why are there so many """musicians""" that can't read sheet music?
I was just watching an interview with Dave Ghrol where he says that he can't read or write sheet music, and I'm sure I've heard of many famous musicians saying similar things before. I don't understand - how can you dedicate 30 years of your life to playing music and yet not be able to read music? And why do people take pride in it? I'd understand if reading sheet music was hard, but you can literally learn how to do it in an hour. Are you even really a musician if you can't play anything unless someone writes down which numbered frets to put your fingers in?
For fretted stringed instruments like guitar it really isn’t necessary.
>but you can literally learn how to do it in an hour Ok Einstein I believe you.
Sebastian Adams
Sheet music is a Eurocentric convention. For thousands of years music has existed all over the world without the need for white notation.
Lucas Barnes
and yet here you are
Jace Harris
>but you can literally learn how to do it in an hour. I've done that but then after a few months/year of never using it, the ability disappears and have to do it over again. It's no use learning it if you don't need it.
Jaxon Ortiz
>And why do people take pride in it? Americans are always prideful with their ignorance.
Carson King
because they're doing "popular" music and not academic stuff, you massive autist. who cares about sheet music when all you do is repeating some chords for 3 minutes
Bentley Ross
This except instead of blaming it on whole continents or “races” i blame it on individual, understandably shortsighted nerds from the last few centuries
Lucas Ortiz
I don't understand it, either, user.
Camden Allen
Literal 6 year olds taking piano lessons know how to read sheet music you fucking moron.
Samuel Taylor
>Nomadic tribes beating drums in Kenya didn't have a use for music notation therefore it has no value Another big brain take from the woke brigade.
Brody Stewart
>you can literally learn how to do it in an hour. It takes me an hour to decipher a few bars. Maybe I'm retarded, but I have to count up from a known line. It's even worse when the note is between clefs.
Austin Ortiz
Jimi Hendrix didnt read sheet music. Lets see you replicate his music
William Reyes
>Maybe I'm retarded I'm afraid there's no maybe about it.
Michael Long
based
Hunter Gomez
What do you mean "replicate it"? Perform it? Yeah, I can play Hendrix songs; They're not hard.
Andrew Hernandez
Yeah, if you're just playing the blues there's no need to learn music notation. I don't think anyone would say otherwise.
Owen Hill
It doesn’t take an hour to learn how to read music proficiently and it’s especially difficult learning it as an adult. I have a poor visual memory and found it exceptionally hard.
Landon Lopez
>Ok Einstein I believe you.
Look at pic related (using low IQ american note names to make it even easier). Now remember that the lowest line of the treble clef is E, and the lowest line of the bass clef is G. Well done, you can now read any sheet music and it took about 20 seconds.
Alexander Reed
this. That's the appeal of pop and rock music, it's accessible to everyone even If you don't have a deep understanding of theory.
Because you don't need to be able to sight read to be a working musician, when it's pop/rock/modern. The only people who really need it are sessions dudes, who have to be able to show up, read the chart, and then play it. Classical musicians don't always need it, either. They have the score in front of them, but if it's a familiar piece, they only glance at it from time to time, especially for notations for deviations a particular conductor has asked for. I wouldn't say don't learn - I did, and it's crucial if you're going to dive into theory at all to be able to read and understand what's going on. Using sheet music makes understanding scales and intervals and such much easier. The hard part is translating that to the guitar neck, because it's not as linear as a keyboard.
Samuel Hill
>I'd understand if reading sheet music was hard, but you can literally learn how to do it in an hour.
Any music that can be sight read with that much experience can't be more difficult than Jingle Bells. At that level an experienced musician could play music by ear. Depending on the instrument and the level of musicianship, it takes a few hundred hours minimum of practice to be able to sight read difficult, complex music.
This image is worthless, it has no mention of tonality, polyrhythms, chord symbols, harmonics, accidentals, key signatures, time signatures, tempo markings, expression markings, or articulation markings.
Granted, reading music IS easy, at least theoretically. Explaining every concept required to read music wouldn't take more than a few hours. But being able to recall those concepts and perform them reliably takes hundreds of hours of practice and study.
Logan Murphy
>But being able to recall those concepts and perform them reliably takes hundreds of hours of practice and study.
Thanks, glad I'm not the only disagreeing with this dingus.
Hudson Richardson
You're mixing up reading with sight reading. I'm not claiming that sight reading is easy.
Zachary Phillips
sheet music is fucking DEAD
its better to learn how to read a piano roll now in 2019
who the fuck needs to learn sheet music anyways? drones who replay classical stuff thats who
>you obv need either the sheet music or the tablature Or you can play by ear, which lots of classicaly trained musicians can't do. Are you even a musician if you can't use your ears, and need to be told exactly which notes to play?
I think if there's any pride in it, it's exactly because of chumps like you, and the fact that he's wildly more succesful. Mostly I think people just don't care. As you said yourself, anyone can learn to look up the notes in a matter of an hour. It's not an achievement really. Becoming a human playback machine that can sight-read at tempo is, but do you honestly think that's a core feature of a musician?
Jason Scott
Opening a book with sheet music, and discovering the music in there is pretty magical though. But becoming an efficient reader for that is a pretty big investment
Robert Ross
He may not be able to read sheet music, but I’m willing to bet he knows a lot of music theory. Circle of 5ths, various keys and modes. Etc.
Jackson Gomez
>I noticed that I could use the finger positions from the B note anywhere on the guitar, this is known as the power chord. And so after figuring out songs like Louie Louie, Wild Thing and My Best Friends Girl, I decided that in order to become a big famous Rockstar I would need to write my very own songs instead of wasting my time learning other peoples because if you study other peoples music too much it may act as obstruction in developing your very own personal style. >Someone told me that there are guitar institutes of technology all across the world where they teach you how to be a lame unoriginal jukebox hero with stars in your eyes. Uh, gee I guess what I’m trying to say is: theory is a waste of time. Dorian modes are for technically anal boys with bad values. Make up your own music. Eric Clapton plays second rate dusty blues licks. Too much practice is like too much sugar. Weird Al Yankovic is America’s modern pop-rock genius. If you copy too much you’ll find yourself in late night cocktail lounge cover band limbo. >The guitar has twelve notes. The guitar is based on mathematics. Guitar oriented rock n roll has been around for over 30 years. There are limitations within the structures of a 4/4 rock time signature rhythm. So consider this music book as something just to own like a bottle cap collection or baseball cards or a family photo album or an example of just exactly how not to brighten your musical capabilities. >Happy Motoring >Love Kurt
>who the fuck needs to learn sheet music anyways? Composers, mostly. But if you worked in the actual music industry, you'd know that sheet music is just as viable and important now than it ever was, because it's the most accurate way we've invented for transcribing musical passages. BTW, if you ever leave your bedroom and record a song that gets released, you'll need to hire someone who can transcribe you 3 chord one hit wonder song into sheet music, to copyright it. Music transcription pays pretty damn well, if you're fast, and accurate.
What your dumb ass posted is like some dumb high school drop out saying 'why we need math numbers, we have da calc...uh...calculaturs."
Don't worry about sheet music, dummy. Your ignorant little world will never be bothered by it, and you'll never bother professional musicians who use it. So it all kind of works out for the best, right?
Blake Ramirez
>Or you can play by ear, which lots of classicaly trained musicians can't do Bullshit, anyone can do this, just maybe not quickly. The average person who's had 0 experience with music can tell you when you're playing a wrong or right note, and that's all you need to hunt a note down.
>It's not an achievement really That's my entire point, reading music isn't hard so it's extremely fucking bizarre to me that these people who have spent 30+ years of their life doing nothing but playing music can't read or write down what they're playing. Sure, you don't /need/ to be able to read music to play music, but you'd think that anyone who took pride in their career would want to be well rounded musician and would learn basic musical skills.
It's like a famous chef coming out and saying that they don't understand how to follow recipes and have never written one.
If it only takes an hour to learn, is there really any difference?
Asher Nguyen
Dave Grohl has a great ear, it's likely he doesn't need to rely on written charts.
Daniel King
Why are there so many """musicians""" who can't transcribe a simple diatonic melody?
Do your ear training kids.
John Anderson
If you're a guitarist, vocalist or drummer it's not as necessary as if you're a pianist.
Eli Smith
>Dude you shouldn't learn theory it's just going to limit you bro, I could obviously learn it if I wanted but not learning it makes me better Fucking kek why do musicians always use this cope? Just because you know theory it doesn't mean you have to follow it.
It's as retarded as some artist saying "Bro don't learn colour theory, it's just going to limit your work my dude, how are you going to develop your own style if you know about complementary colors?"
>BTW, if you ever leave your bedroom and record a song that gets released, you'll need to hire someone who can transcribe you 3 chord one hit wonder song into sheet music, to copyright it. Music transcription pays pretty damn well, if you're fast, and accurate.
Maybe in other countries but I am a songwriter and in the UK a recording of the music will suffice for copyright purposes, ideally deposited with a solicitor or bank but poor man's copyright is still valid according to the British Library.
Andrew Rivera
I agree, but i'm almost graduating from music school singing coloratura rep with no sight reading abilities hahahahaha i create midi files... But now i'm studying pozzoli again.
Eli Morris
>MUH PUNK RAWK AESTHETICS >DON'T NEED NO SHEET MUSIC BAYBAY That's what I figure
Xavier Turner
NOBODY only copyrights a song in the UK. You're asking to have your shit ripped off everywhere else in the world.
But you stay in your bedroom of ignorance, thinking you know best.
Sebastian Ortiz
I'd pay to see a punk band who sight read their songs and kicked the stands over at the end of the gig
Isaiah Rogers
Do you go to the Trump University of music schools? Did you just cheat your way through theory and ear training? If you've almost graduated and that's your level you got ripped off.
