Cantata "Du wahrer Gott und Davids Sohn" Bach used this as the test piece for his Thomaskantor audition in Leipzig You know things are for Real when Bach goes to B minor Close-miked oboes and Romantic singers with lots of Vibrato on this recording
How come the greatest and most intellectual composer of all time was catholic, when catholics otherwise are total brainlets and can't hold a candle to protestant brainchads?
Brody Sanders
Yep, one voice per part, makes everything more clear, but it just feels wrong I like listening to Kuijken from to time to time tho
Mason Morris
>How come the greatest and most intellectual composer of all time Delusional.
Angel Rodriguez
All of that is accurate for Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart.
William Harris
Everyone agrees Mozart is overrated.
Tyler Hernandez
Zelenka is always so rhythmic and dynamic compared to Bach the stiff
Nolan Green
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
Elijah Foster
>not only is /classical/ filled with Mozart underrters it's also being filled with Bach underraters Fuuck next thing you know they'll say all 20th century music sucks and will post only Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich
Zelenka was a Violone player, thats why his bass lines are so GROOVY, and he was influenced by Bohemian Folk music in his Rhythms i think
Xavier Mitchell
>In music, Catholic monks developed the first forms of modern Western musical notation in order to standardize liturgy throughout the worldwide Church,[94] and an enormous body of religious music has been composed for it through the ages. This led directly to the emergence and development of European classical music, and its many derivatives.
>"Glenn Gould is remembered, among other things, for humming, and at times appearing to conduct with a free hand, while playing the piano. But in the video below is what I believe to be visual evidence that this great pianist experienced music in a way that few of us ever will. Note what happens at 9:47, as Gould calls the opening chord of the Cantata ("Widerstehe doch der Sünde") one of the "most striking in all of Bach's harmonic arsenal" and then plays the chord with his left hand: his right arm seems to flex upward, and his fingers appear to curl, in what looks to me like an almost unnatural, involuntarily manner. It is as though the act of simultaneously playing and hearing this "most striking" music provokes what seems to be a neurological response. I find this fascinating and would be interested to hear what a physician or neurologist makes of this."
>invents the symphony >invents the string quartet >invents the sonata form >brings counterpoint and the fugue back into classical forms >advances motivic over thematic development >introduces the fate motif >amplifies emotional range of music >plays with instrumentation >jumpstarts the romantic movement
start with Tannhäuser and download the version from the OP. If you don't like watching opera you can also just listen to it while reading the Libretto. That's what I have done with the Ring. And if even that is too much for you than your last option is to simply listen to the Preludes.
what I always wear, plain dark-colored t-shirt and pants fuck those prudes, they don't know music any better than you, it's a concert hall where sight is to supposed to yield to sound
Dominic Carter
if you're the only one in a t-shirt im pretty sure you're making it harder for sight to yield to sound
you know they turn the lights off at the concert right? they can control whether they're looking at me or not, I can't control whether I'm hearing them huffing and fidgeting and playing with their program notes exactly when the music goes quiet. in the end I respect the music, they don't, so I don't give a fuck what they would think.
Oliver Gonzalez
respond you fucking cucks
Adam Roberts
>I respect the music >Wears a t-shirt alright
Aiden King
>he only gets concerts in huge modern soulless concert halls near his flyover town Guess what pal, if you go to old authentic buildings where the composers themselves used to live and play their pieces in the middle of summer, you're bound to wear a T-shirt if you don't want to sweat buckets because you sure as hell won't have AC in those buildings.
Justin Barnes
yasunori imamura HIP on lute has complete works backmatches with koonces interpretations
1. Beethoven. Obvious pick for no.1. He created the best music in the world and innovated drum use in music, how could he not be no.1?
2. Mozart. He made Fur Elise
3. Bach. He's pretty good
4. Chopin. Can't forget Chopin, he's a master at creating beautiful piano pieces.
5. Debussy. Another master at the piano.
Aiden Morales
hat tshirt jumper jeans trainers try to be as grey as possible, impossible when youre a mutt 50 years younger than everyone-else
Colton Butler
Bayreuth for example is a sauna, you're supposed to strip naked once you are inside.
Jaxson Baker
>I respect the music >Smacks his lips throughout the concert alright
Mason Lewis
not even a good impersonation of the average 2set subreddit user
Carter Cooper
we wanted a Yeji thread
Angel Wood
For that matter, what is it about concert settings that makes people cough? Like they even hold it in. I've never held a cough in for several minutes and was able to dispose of it at my own convenience. Who are these coughing cryptids?
>beethoven point is ok add something about his entry tier music >fur elise is too far >say mozart would beat beethoven but hes not exciting enough >bach one is common take these days unfortunatley >say bach was a true master of the classical style >say something positive about chopins orchestration >say debussy would be above chopin but he wrote too few works
Gabriel Perry
I can tolerate coughing if it's momentary and people just have to cough, but if they do it once they do it repeatedly, and they do it just when the music goes most quiet.
stupid prom niggers just started clapping way too early during the bells, it lacked something, I can't tell you what, not a bad rendition until the audience ruined it.
Nathan White
late shostakovich is underatted and its a chilling song cycle
if you mean angry about how stupid your choice is then sure.
Lucas Wilson
Beethoven. Most posters here express (if they date to express any judgment at all) a sort of guilty pleasure relationship to his music, but only because they can’t into his late period beyond the 9th and maybe some of the slow movements of the quartets. But listen attentively (i.e. follow with a score) to the Diabelli variations, every movement of the late quartets (or at least op. 130-132), the last 3 piano sonatas, op. 126 bagatelles, Missa Solemnis. You’ll discover textures that would not reappear until Webern, harmonic glitches and metrical distortions weirder than anything in Brahms, the most subtle and creatively interspersed dynamics and articulations, all inhabiting the deepest, almost inscrutable emotional landscapes, which can take a long ass time to apprehend, but once you do, it’s insanely rewarding. Check it out.
Noah Gray
>Most posters here express (if they date to express any judgment at all) a sort of guilty pleasure relationship to his music
Your an idiot for thinking anything of the sort. Hardly anyone says Beethoven isn't a great composer. The only thing that was in dispute was whether he is the only possible candidate to stand alongside Mozart and Bach in the trinity. For example Sibelius is a great composer but nobody would call him one of the 3 greatest composers of all time.
>You’ll discover textures that would not reappear until Webern
Give me one instance of this. In fact, wtf is a "texture" anyway? Nobody can seem to agree on this. Usually it has something to do with timbre or else the arrangement.
Brayden Cook
Just admit you haven't the fainted idea about the history of music and music theory and that you've gone as far as reading the most basic of basic biographical data about the most basic composers you've heard of and cannot muster up such a sensible argument as that user; and move on.
Parker Jackson
>wtf is a "texture" anyway? The state of this fucking board and this fucking thread
You idiot, he says "The first symphony starts with a dissonance" but its a dim that resolves in the most conventional manner possible immediately. Not exactly rocking the boat.
Carson Cook
>wtf is a "texture" anyway?
Nathan Butler
You can't tell me that this word isn't used in at least three separate contexts. Also I'm still waiting for a Webernian moment in Beethoven
Noah Rodriguez
It's used in a pretty obvious way when talking about music, you fucking mug
He is completely incorrect in implying that Mozart employs rudimentary or somehow easily comprehensible development, his entire thing was subverting the expected developmental turns derived from galant.
Michael Lewis
Based Monteverdi, along with Debussy and Bach, the only 3 guys who truly understood Harmony in music history.
Daniel Walker
Nigger people here ONLY like late Beethoven after the 9th and say the quartets (esp the slow movements) are his best work, and say earlier Beethoven is cringe. Which pisses me off but what can you do. Regardless what you said might reflect on the general youtube comment community but not /classical/
Jordan Johnson
If you can choose between Bach and Mozart you're a cuck
Nathaniel James
It's a file you gotta copy into the .music folder for the music to work. Just another one of Hayd's visionary ideas bro
Jonathan Robinson
This. If his music wasn't lost he could've be recognized more than Bach.
Post some less known classical cuties Here is one i discovered recently while looking for a good Cold Song youtube.com/watch?v=4aL3tzwYKA0
James Smith
No, not at all. For instance I've heard of (a four voice texture). I've also heard texture relate to the timbre. And I've also heard it relate to the total amount of sound or even the amount of counterpoint
Carter Miller
Strange comment since that guy is Jewish and they both look like Larry David more than anything stereotypically italian
This has more originality and, dare I say it, beauty than anything by Bach.
Samuel Garcia
But he looks like a kike.
Carson Stewart
That's impossible, Jewish persons have a wide variety of phenotypes similar to whatever country their family has recided in. Also antisemitism is not cool bro, do you wear thin wireframe glasses and have a very poorly defined facial shape?
All of them are hideous nerdics that no doubt own at least one stormfront account and post on at least one nazi-themed ERP discord server.
Jacob Stewart
Really? Because I could swear its just a bunch of pictures of guys who are supposed to look dumb and the poster gets to impute whatever characteristics he wants to associate someone he disagrees on the internet with.
>I'm a freak for not caring about what happens in burgerland
Actually your entire premise has fallen on its ass here. I'd certainly know about this if I were a /pol/ack. I'm just casually racist like everyone else on Yea Forums faggot. Besides which, I'm the guy who grafted Schoenberg into the trinity.
Nicholas King
>Garlic Shooter
So the guy drank an ounce of liquefied garlic? Leave him alone. No need to rope him in with actual murderers
>literally >song not even trying fuck off zoomshit fag
Josiah Martin
Its like all you can distinguish is the arrangement. You have no ear for tonality or counterpoint. Fuck off. What do you even like? Philip Glass? His music is more toxic than Dr. Claudius' ear drops.
Carson Thomas
Listening to the same melody a million times isn't particularly interesting.
>but muh counterpoint
Eli Edwards
stop trying faggot (((you)))re bait is shit
Joshua Anderson
yes, melody. That is another thing you have no ear for. Train your fucking ears.
no fractals. That's the other side of the coin. But look at you, your brow is set so low, there is no room to see. It will need to be ratcheted up systematically through a process of musical training. No other way about it.
Isaac Hill
Bach's music is garbage. No amount of "musical training" will change that.
Colton Hall
youre like a zoomer version of Hans you shitclot
Thomas Martinez
Bach should have made music that didn't suck ass.
Robert Miller
That's just the name of album, which is a collection of miscellaneous dances, overtures, etc. Rameau wrote. The piece itself is the overture of Zaïs.
really depends on your taste. Do you value a certain sound of the orchestra or good singers more? In my opinion the Vietnamese PO really suck at Wagner.
>Měsíčku na nebi hlubokém Heard Krasimira Stoyanova sing this at a concert last year, was so beautiful. Has this specific Slavic simplicity and sincerity. (alliteration not intended)
Isaac Mitchell
at least according to viking rules, sl doesn't alliterate with s, so it'd just be a double alliteration
Logan Powell
I like it when designers at least try to be creative
I heard the aria a few months ago just accompanied with the accordion, it gave me goosebumps.
Jose Moore
try Keilberth
Parker Sullivan
For me? 1966 Bohm or 1953 Krauss for Rheingold and 1952 Keilberth for the rest of the Cycle
Josiah Harris
>All Bach sounds the same >Nickelback of classical music
Baroque first off, and you're uhhhhh wrong lol
Bach is a genius
Went to an Andras Schiff concert and he played Scarlatti for an hour and a half; THAT actually sounds the same after 30min
Chase Powell
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can't listen to Moses und Aron because Jews
Lincoln Rogers
Scarlatti is pretty varied, though. And I also heard a whole concert of his stuff.
Cooper Watson
kys
Kevin Nelson
I had an asthma attack at an Alfred Brendel concert purely because I knew he was particularly sensitive to audience noises. The fear of coughing literally made me cough
Nolan Ross
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Brandon Davis
New
Joseph Sanders
Big redpill incoming
>Chopin was a special soul, a prophet, the reincarnation of Raphael and Novalis, and in his musical colors revealed the imperceptible, the inaudible, unspeakable Absolute >Scriabin was closest to the esoteric truth behind all things in his early period, under the embrace of Chopin's soul as Sophie under Novalis, and by a hubris brought on by realizing this, as well as the harmful influence of people like Blavatsky, he strayed from his path and tried to will directly into existence what can only be evoked in subtle hints and fragments, for which his life had to end prematurely
I don't understand why people in this thread hate on Bach so much. listen to the Michelangeli recordings of the Chaconne.... Or the Casals cello suites? Or the cantatas? or the busoni transcription of the cantatas?
english/ french suites?
not saying he's the greatest ever, but he's undeniably great
