were there actually any good Linkin Park songs?
They hit it big when I was in jr high or high school, and they went straight from unknown to main stream radio hits, and it was just pure kids bop tier cringe bait. It was so cool to hate on them and I never gave them a chance and I can't see them any other way.
But am I missing out on something?
Did they have good songs beyond the singles? Early albums maybe?
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>But am I missing out on something?
They were what they appeared to be, a very poppy product that happened to feature every then current trend in a more radio friendly package than their peers.
>Did they have good songs beyond the singles? Early albums maybe?
If you don't like "One Step Closer", "Crawling", "Papercut", and "In The End" I doubt you'll like anything else off the Hybrid Theory or Meteora records because it's all pretty much more of the same. I think the albums are good for what they are, at the very least they're produced well and have a consistent catchy hook after hook on each song.
If you're more into hip hop and electronic music than rock, you may want to check out "Reanimated" which is a bunch of remixes and reimaginings of their first album songs much more in that realm, similar to Limp Bizkit's "New Old Songs"
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>pretty much more of the same
sometimes exactly the same.
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This whole album is incredible.
Waiting For The End has a really nice build to a (imo) great finale that always pumps me up. Blackout has a similar ending but the beginning of the song has Chester's aggressive screamed vocals contrasted with a pretty chill piano melody and I dig that too.
>went straight from unknown
I'll grant that they got weebier / more emo but then everyone did. Remember when Papa Roach turned into something for the mopey kids and footballers lost interest? I always date it to when My Immortal came out or thereabouts
>Remember when Papa Roach turned into something for the mopey kids and footballers lost interest?
>turned into
Their first album had Last Resort and Broken Home, literally featuring the lyrics "CAN'T GO ON LIVING THIS LIIIIIFE" and "I KNOW MY MOTHER LOVES ME, BUT DOES MY DADDY EVEN CARE????"
They suck. I read somebody on here call them "the voice of a generation" a couple of days ago.
Yeah the lyrics are the essence of edgy cringe fuel.
Still I find the music of that album amazingly good for a numetal band.
Everything after lovehatetragedy is pure shit tho
yea... millenials...ugh
I have held the feeling for a long time their shit in sound was a label pushing an image and sound onto them and not what they wanted to do. Regardless of what they may have said publically.
And I think being forced to create something so far outside what he wanted to with zero say ultimately contributed to the guy's suicide by adding more on top of his already serious depression issues.
Wasn't the Hunting Season like, a back to the roots thing? "We do shit the way we want to"? I remember giving it a listen out of curiosity and it was surprisingly metal for an LP album.
Yeah but all the nu metal bands had that. It was when they really started laying on thick the mallgoth shit that everyone else got off board
>were there actually any good Linkin Park songs?
Time and place kind of thing. If you were 12-15 years old during the early-mid 00s, you probably enjoyed some of their music. But it's mostly cringy rap-rock and it hasn't aged well, similar to lame Christian butt rock bands of the time (Creed/Evanesence) and post-grunge which also sucked and is best left forgotten (3 Doors Down, Staind).
Why would anyone still want to talk about Linkin Park? Their music was never that good, they stopped being trendy almost 15 years ago, their genremates have since been largely forgotten or IOWA by SLIPKNOT
Did people fall for the suicide meme?
>Yeah but all the nu metal bands had that. It was when they really started laying on thick the mallgoth shit that everyone else got off board
Strategic move though, it was because nu-metal was dying...Scars was probably their biggest hit after Last Resort because they changed image and pandered to the emo kids who were now dominating MTV
>he doesn't recognize Meteora for a pop masterpiece
Linkin Park is better than the examples you chose which all had weird pretensions to bland adult contemporary (or post grunge). I'm no fan of Evanescence but it's easy to see how they would have meant something to a kid who'd just gotten into rock music when Bring Me To Life came out (weird saying this since I started watching the music channels at the cusp of 2002 but it feels like a big difference). That said I still think they're shit and Linkin Park did the same thing better and were less cloying about it. All that post 2003 shit was cartoony as fuck by nu metal standards
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Wretches & Kings and Blackout in particular are fantastic tracks, that album in general really solid and quite unique, really felt like they found their sound here but alas they had to fall back into bland edgy radio rock.
I think Fallen is a better record than Hybrid Theory or Meteora, musically it's the same kind of second wave over produced nu metal shit just minus the hip hop elements (save for Bring Me To Life), but with Amy Lee's vocals really being the star of the show, while with LP it was all about the hip hop aspect being so dominant and the contrast between the two vocal styles
All I know is, when I'm nostalgic for the 00's teen crap I go back to Fallen way more than LP, I guess because I am genuinely a fan of her vocals on it despite it obviously being designed for teen mallgoths and I prefer the kind of "gothic" atmosphere of it to the more rap rock thing.
That's actually a pretty good point I hadn't considered. Her vocals really aren't bad and despite their target demo and all that they were actually okay. Roping them in with bands like Creed is a little unfair, Creed sucked way more ass.
I thought Creed sucked at the time, they were like a Nickelback who'd paid their dues