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Minor 9ths change everything
overloud make good compressors.
It's up to the plugin to pass the currently-set parameter value to the host, which is very possible to do even with VST2, but passing the entire parameter range is more tricky since the scale of the range is normalized to 0-1 scale in between - ie: you could easily pull minimum (0) and maximum (1) ranges from a plugin but each of the floating-point numbers in between (say 0.2576 for example) don't get reported until a slider in the host has been moved to that point, because you theoretically have millions of possible values between 0 and 1 depending on the resolution of your slider and querying that amount of values for each slider would tax the host and plugin quite a bit, unless the process has been thoroughly optimized.
A DAW's built-in plugins can do it easily, but third-party is trickier - this is an old thread but it explains the process, and also mentions some plugin manufacturers (like Voxengo) who do work with host developers to pass this parameter range along.
voxengo is truly based
could daws could do full sweeps of every parameter on first load / first detection of a plugin and pull values that way?
personally, i don't really find it much of an issue.
i'd be more concerned about studio one's weird volume faders if i was the guy who posted those screencaps.
you literally cant say a single bad thing about FL studio.
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whats this bullshit
Quality of music has gone down. People don't buy CDs, people don't pay for professional studio, everybody does home recording that sounds like shit. Zoomers cannot differentiate between youtube quality and CD quality. Zoomers don't care about production, they cannot even tell what a good production sounds like.
My 16 year old brother "doesnt care" about the differences between youtube quality or low mp3 qualitty and CD quality.
I played him 2 versions of a same song, 1 being a cd quality version and the other being a 96kbs mono mp3. He had no preference. They both sounded pretty much the same to him.
Nobody cares, zoomers care even less. Most people in these general don't care either because they make some sort of bleep bleep music which sounds like something AI would randomize in any DAW
>which sounds like something AI would randomize in any DAW
Reason sucks though.
Yeah, and the thread mentions that, talking about "dummy moves" - and when you think about it some parameter ranges would be easier to query than others too. Linear relationships are just a straight-line equation (y = mx + c) so you could query the plugin with a million floating-point dummy-move host slider values between 0 and 1 and store the returned parameter values without a whole lot of resource load - it's when we get into quadratic and polynomial functions that things get more hairy, but having said that a GPU could easily do those without touching the CPU. So there's your solution in part if you can rely on CUDA or similar.
film buffs lamented the same thing when people started shooting digital, or using vhs as an aesthetic choice.
please give me feedback how fucked is the mixing
I put a compressor on it and then I took the compressor off because it made me feel like it was speeding it up somehow
Imagine actually having to put effort into your compositions
and cinema has been shit for like 30 years, so yeah, it all fits.
thots?
How do I get the original studio tracks for "Professional Killer" by KMFDM? I want to make my own mix that doesn't have the gud ol' boy narrating an execution.
I use studio one for professional work and have never had an issue with automations being 0 to 100... it's a percentage.
Write your auto's by dragging a fader mapped to the CC/macro. Way faster. Way more accurate.
That's is a cutoff fader. I hate that pluck sound.
i'm talking about pic-related
I am actually stuck to listening records produced in quality studios in the 90s, produced by quality engineers
Yeah it does fucking suck
REPOST JUST BECAUSE
gonna fix the subs today
maybe add a little fuckery in the intro
...
will watch at some point for the meme
i've heard the name tossed around and never realized what it was lol
shit i didn't know HTRK had a new-new single
way more delay
they use a DSI mopho x4, so if you have anything like that available it could help you get closer to their bass sound
layers and reverb in general>
don't be afraid to low pass heavily,
>will watch at some point for the meme
Make sure to watch the English dub.
how do i motivate myself if all my music sound like shit, why not play league of legends instead
never gonna make it
When I enter 50% as knob value, it doesn't become 50%.
no math allowed
Audiophiles are the craft beer snobs of music. Sure, whatever fresh microbrew handcrafted artisan beverage you're currently infatuated with is objectively a more complex and sophisticated drink than Coors but the majority of the time I just want a beer to drink with dinner, just like I want loud mp3s to play over my car stereo.
Dimi you've been at this over a year now, you KNOW a compressor won't do that.
make what?
Because being shit at something is the only way to eventually become good at it.
Of course you suck at it if you haven't done it for as long as the people who don't suck at it did.
cinema isn't just Hollywood capeshit. There are lots of great films you're missing out on
imagine being too much of a brainlet to appreciate generative music
you'll learn to feel good about making something even if it's shit. In 10 years you'll be looking back at all the time you spent on LoL and feel liike a retard
First you must find out why it sounds like shit
see
>hey guys how do I convince myself to make music if I don't actually want to make music
>you KNOW a compressor won't do that.
yeah but it felt like it.
soulless "music"
same logic as saying music dies with nirvana faggot
of it does its a fucking tritone to the perfect fifth.
what's the difference between chorus and flanger since both are delay+pitch oscilation
what do you mean by 'mods'
the machines are coming to kill your music
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Not him but there are ways to mod your guitar to make it output midi data.
other than a synth pedal?
A flanger uses shorter delay times.
Yes, there are tons of different ways to do it:
youtube.com
other than vst/software?
Yes. Look at the link.
Does this sound pleasing to listen to (aside from the sloppy guitar)
clyp.it
I want to make music but it's just so cringe worthy compared to good artists
Don't bother Sambo, it costs beaucoup dollars.
lack emotion
But theres vibrato everywhere
I'll try another one, hold on
I'm trying to resolve this chord progression but I'm a theorylet and I feel like it loops back really awkwardly.
Can I get a second opinion on this? I should probably spend more time learning about how to create musical tension but for now I'm just trying to do it by ear
Would it be feasible to use speakers to play through a DAW live instead of using an amp? So:
Guitar -> Audio Interface -> Reaper -> Speakers -> Ears(tm)
Issues with latency or anything like that?
how do you think people record guitar into daws? hearing latency?
clyp.it
Not sure if I should finish this. It's a sortof dark thing I've been working on since late last night. I don't know if I like how the really clean drum samples contrast with the otherwise dark and gritty synths.
I'm just wondering if in a live setting there would be slight latency from having to route it through a DAW vs just playing directly from the speakers, which might create some issues with playing in time with the band. It sounds like you're saying there wouldn't be though
dope, sounds like some espionage/hackerman type shit
*playing directly through an amp
see for yourself
spies and hackers dont usually make music user
Well I made that so...
>clyp.it
Kind of cool but I don't like the way it resolves to a plateau at 0:15 and 0:53 but then continues the downward motion. Just change that chord to something with a little more tension and see what happens.
I saw this notation with the "6 5" on hooktheory. What does it mean? That site has a lot of things like this which I don't see explained anywhere, even on music theory sites I've looked at.
I do crack.
>openmusictheory.com
Holy fuck. Not that user, but a classically trained penis here. Why the fuck are they making such a simple concept so complicated? Jesus.
Thanks, this does make figured bass look extremely complicated though (as said). I'll have to look closer at it sometime.
autism most likely
Yes it is possible. I use amp simulator software like this sometimes to just jam on home on reasonable volumes: youtube.com
That being said, depends on your DAW, sample rates you use, and how fast/good your computer is, you can play with these tones with minimal latency (same kind of you would get from using real amps)
So yes
Guitar -> Audio Interface -> Reaper -> Speakers -> Ears(tm)
Expect before audio interface, I use direct box for tone reasons pro48.
I also use this software to add some guitar tone, basically I always record real, analog guitar amp, but also get the direct signal and play it through amp sims If I feel something is lacking in some frequencies and add little bit of that to the mix.
THU-U overload has shitloads of tweaks available and it is perhaps the best simulation you can get in terms of distortion in 2019. In 10 years they might come up with something so good that you cannot tell the difference between a real amp.
But yes, if not using the fastest ASIO drivers, adjusting sample rates etc. there probably will be latency especially if you just want to jam through your speakers. Even if you would get minimal latency with not enough performance there will be some clip sounds constantly... (don't know how to technically explain it)
bois, anyone know if i can do the following with ableton's midi remote script:
>check if the selected track has an instance of a particular vst plugin
>if particular plugin is present then auto-bind my controller to various parameters on it
basically dynamically reassign midi mapping to an instance of a particular plugin on a selected track, knowing that this plugin is going to end up on pretty much every track
i'd like to try and make a poor man's version of softube's console 1 a couple of nanokontrols.
somebody check this low end
(an user with a sub's opinion preferred)
i matched it using meters (it hurt) and also comparing on a bose system and feeling bad about how my song wouldn't rumble until i did a test and found out there was very little response below 40 hz.... so i'm kind of in the dark there
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you gotta be retarded to use Cubase
why do you think so
it does what
cause its a program for retards
Looks like the Live.Track.Track.devices property will get you the devices loaded into a track and you'd be able to use if/then block in your Python script to enable the mapping - source of the APIs and their parameters below - near the bottom of the page:
does change everything
Everything made with it is easily identifiable as an FL track because it is so generic and played out by being easily pirated. When the same 500k dudes are all using the same stock sounds and shitty vsts with there "handmade" 808s shit gets so boring. I've never heard a Reason stock sound in a soundcloud beat ever and I know for a fact it's because you can't pirate reason and everyone who pretends to produce are poor and just use frequency sheets and YouTube tutorials with no fundamental understanding of how to create, arrange and sequence an original sounding or entertaining album. None of your heroes labor over 8 bar loop all night and get Grammys for it. They put in actual work and a vision. stop LARPing as producers your all FL children or abelton wannabe hipster noisey watching pretentious loop faggots
Says the Fruity dindu
what DAWs are a meme and why?
tyvm, my man.
if that dude the other day who wanted to prove that you could make good shit with just free pluggos is still lurking around, forgot to mention these the other day:
i got bitched at for using "FL stock samples and dubstep drums" and i use reason (and i pirated it)
>i use reason (and i pirated it)
Reason 3 doesn't count. They're up to version 10.x now.
Maybe I should just make mainstream edm
Heres some trash I'm working on.
clyp.it
Lemme know what's up
didn't listen but make sure the beginning of your loop is a tonic chord and the end of your loop is a dominant chord if you want to loop forever
if you ever engage in DAW wars, you're an amateur
is subscribing to the hooktheory software for 4.99 a month worth it?
Also, how are the books?
>Everything made with it is easily identifiable as an FL track
That's an expected opinion to have when you only listen to and produce hip-hop. FL is not limiting in the sounds you can create. People will typically only stick to what's taught if they're doing hip-hop, and the same would happen in any DAW.
Just because FL is more popular among people who want to make hip-hop, does not mean that the DAW itself is the issue (even a pirated version)
Same could be said for a lot of VSTs. The people you listen to are not experimenting.
What's the device that will allow me to do REAMP
Im gonna shop now
your brother is a stupid
Naw, DAW Wars is a classic bit that only the experienced truly appreciate.
what is the answer for the question of the pic
damn the cheapest one costs like a 2 channel interface
are URS plugins worth a shit
>One of the big problems with electronic music I find is peoples obsession with timbre and creating 'new sounds' at the expense of the actual music. When the emphasis is so strongly on this - and technology as opposed to music and harmony - it usually dooms the shelf life of the electronic music to a point in time - beyond which is has little value. 'New sounds' are exciting in the moment - but its actual 'music' and harmony that draws lasting emotive feelings. How many electronic music albums do you have that stood the test of time?
>"We live in a pop age gone loco for retro and crazy for commemoration. Band re-formations and reunion tours, expanded reissues of classic albums and outtake-crammed box sets, remakes and sequels, tribute albums and mash-ups . . . But what happens when we run out of past? Are we heading toward a sort of culturalecological catastrophe where the archival stream of pop history has been exhausted? "
I swear to god, the way light is reflected off pearls is exactly like "stray" partials in an additive synth. Why is that? Does it have something to do with individual frequencies "popping out" of the cohesive group of frequencies that make up a sound or color?
clyp.it
Can i produce with EZDrummer or do i need Superior Drummer
ezdrummer is more about loading presets you can't make extensive tweaks
yeah but i can route the drums and eq them separately
when you're just starting out, and learning the basics of productions/songwriting, should you just focus on the music you can make with free plugins, rather than getting bogged down with pirating a million studio quality things when you have no idea how to do even basic song writing?
I don't want to be one of those autists who focuses more on acquiring software than actually making music
sure you can but the tails are just too long for me so I really need to fine tune everything with superior
why is that a problem outside of the kickdrum, on which you can just use a gate
you should keep it minimal at first but once you managed to arrange something you will cripple yourself if you don't try new stuff every once in a while
your daw should have all the tools you need to start. once you get competent you’ll have an idea of what plugins you’ll need to compliment your music. honestly there really aren’t that many free plugins worth a damn anyway
trolling? these two things are completely unrelated lol
prism> (:
ditto if anything i would recommend pirating only serum, use what's in your daw for everything else
where would one most reliably get Serum
rutracker, bonus points if you get the version without keygen
wait why would the version without keygen be better, don't you need it
is it common to use T-Racks for mixing
sometimes it doesn't work or has some hidden traps, I haven't tested the last cracked version long enough however so I might be wrong
but if you don't have a keygen, how do you use the pirated software?
there's a pre cracked version where you just have to replace the dll
You wanna make some stuff in between games?
I haven't pirated shit in years. How do you use rutracker if you don't speak Russian?
Are you memeing?
just learn how to speak russian it isnt that hard
use chrome's built-in translator
dont bother 'using' rutracker if you know what you're trying to find. it has open searching to crawlers. what does this mean? it means all you need to do is google "[software or whatever name] ENG "rutracker""
once you arrive on the page, look for this thing in the pic. if the page doesn't have it, it's a forum post (i THINK.) go back and keep searching on google
now the shit you download may have only russian instructions for installation. in that case i say good luck to you, try google translate
finish everything
Very emotional melody but I think the drums are too active and cover up groove and vocals too much. Simply a bit.
fair point, thanks. the drums are literally 3 copies on separate tracks stacked on top of eachother lol
>is subscribing to the hooktheory software for 4.99 a month worth it?
Depends entirely on your income my dude.
>the way light is reflected off pearls is exactly like "stray" partials in an additive synth
What do you mean?
Could you help me understand please?
Few months ago I made a friend listen to a record I really like (and I know it was made on FL) and the first thing my friend said was "haha it sounds like it was made on Fruity Loops". Fuck him, but I wonder how he guessed because that record was fucking good and not using typical FL plugs (besides the ones for mixing I guess.
after registering you don't need any russian. for the registration, just check the hyperlinks, it's all in english, so it's easy to proceed
there's that renoise tutorial about it on youtube, even if you don't use renoise, you should check it, the explanation couldn't be more simple
Which song was it?
>HTRK
I love that band, they're gonna release a new LP at the end of the month
The first song of New Model by Perturbator
I believe they also use a Matrix 12 and classic BOSS drum machines
shit, I'm drunk, I meant Roland not BOSS (even if it's the same company)
Did you ask him what made him think it was made in FL Studio?
No, I started seeing red immediately. I know for a fact he barely used FL Studio (he's a linuxfag), but he's not completely retarded when it comes to sound engineering, so I think something made him think that (maybe it sounded too clean/artificial?)
I didn't ask him because we never talk production, just music.
808 for sure, they mentioned renting a 303 for work work work
sp404, all the line 6 mutli effect shit for modulation/delays....jaguar guitar obvs... yeah that's all i got
>The first song of New Model by Perturbator
Listening to it now for the first time I can't help but think it sounds like it was made in FL Studio.
I'm 99% sure it's just a bias and that I wouldn't think so without your premise, but still, I hear it clearly.
I use both FL and Ableton and when I make music with FL it sounds different than when I use Ableton, even though I use the same plugins for instruments and effects.
I can't really articulate it but FL tends to sound clean in the way additive synths sound cleaner than regular subtractive ones do when doing the same thing. (in your song this is especially apparent in the reverb).
Also the high end tends to sound a bit more rounded off (like there's a very gentle slope somewhere above 15kHz) while on Ableton it tends to be a bit harsher an more "brittle" if that makes sense.
Of course you can do things to avoid this sound, but if you don't, it's there.
probably the arrangement, fruity has a lot of unique stuff like the way the playlist works and the midi editor that can generate chords and arpeggios completely from scratch
the synths are also easy to recognize
>Also the high end tends to sound a bit more rounded off (like there's a very gentle slope somewhere above 15kHz) while on Ableton it tends to be a bit harsher an more "brittle" if that makes sense.
it could be the fact that every channel has a shitty built-in eq
>it could be the fact that every channel has a shitty built-in eq
Isn't that deactivated by default though?
I don't know actually
Yes you should.
man these trumpets make anyone cry
youtu.be
thanks
>instaudio finito
>clyp it wont work
well
what the fuck then?
>tfw finally got all the decent gear that i want/need to make great music but all the passion is gone from working a stressful job with a depressing boss and i became a food addict
clyp is working here, whats ur issue
Learn a martial art and beat up your boss on the street while wearing a balaclava to vent the frustration from your job.
>i became a food addict
I don't understand how is that even possible. Food is a chore to eat.
Yes there is a latency for live processing in a daw. It comes down to how good the audio interface and the sound driver / computer is.
Haven’t used it, but logic has a live mode that is the lowest latency in the game. RME and Universal Audio interfaces are super low latency.
Quit your job. There's no point in doing something that's making you miserable, you're only young once.
This. Although I think hurting him online is safer.
You can easily get addicted to substances like sugar. It depends on your diet and your health, but for me stuffing shit in my mouth can sometimes drastically alter my mood (from wanting to fucking die to being all good), especially in the morning.
>Although I think hurting him online is safer.
Actually a better idea than mine.
Like hiring a blackhat on the darkweb to plant pizza on his computer and calling the fbi on him.
It will be much safer and effective, but won't give him the same satisfaction as a good beatdown.
>Quit your job. There's no point in doing something that's making you miserable, you're only young once.
Not having a job will most likely make him even more miserable you fucking neet faggot.
>Quit your job. There's no point in doing something that's making you miserable, you're only young once.
then i'll do what
i can always kms when the wasted youth feel gets too unbearable
not a neet
find a better jerb, get more education, go travel and work in farms, find a rich woman and live off her money, idk (just giving examples I tried)
your 20s are not for living a square life, you're allowed to fart around
I seriously considered getting revenge on a boss who ruined my life for 2 months, but I forgot his fucking name
Work sucks deal with it. I recommend a moderate exercise regimen and frequent recreational drug use.
>I recommend a moderate exercise regimen and frequent recreational drug use
Wow i completely missed the Massive X release (beta?)
Apparently it's pretty shit, right?
Also, is it supposed to be a successor to Massive or just another thing?
Also heard that Ableton now allows you to load your own wavetables into their wavetable synthesizer. That apparently happened like 2 weeks after i bought Serum.
>Wow i completely missed the Massive X release (beta?)
It actually released but it's clearly rushed and incomplete, so yeah, it's basically a beta.
>Apparently it's pretty shit, right?
Not really, but it has a few minor issues that will probably be fixed in a later version.
Still worth trying if you're into synths and sound design, but don't expect groundbreaking features or anything.
>Also, is it supposed to be a successor to Massive or just another thing?
They market it as a separate thing to own alongside Massive, so it's not like a Massive 2 or anything like that.
>Also heard that Ableton now allows you to load your own wavetables into their wavetable synthesizer.
Yeah, since 10.1
>That apparently happened like 2 weeks after i bought Serum.
Serum is still light years ahead of Wavetable, and you still need its wavetable editor to make usable tables to load into Waveform, so you haven't lost anything.
cool detailed response thanks
I've been trying to get torrented Ableton to work on my computer but every keygen/crack I've found doesn't work anymore, anyone got advice?
clyp.it
how do i make these two sections flow together boys help. how do i even make a full track from this this shit is impossible
>you're allowed to fart around
not by my family
Any feedback
Step sequencers in the house tonight, more than 16 steps isn't worth our time
what's the best justice album?
>how do i make these two sections flow together boys
You did though?
That major chord sounds cheesy AF, but maybe that's just me.
To make a full track you need to continue -- sketch out melody over it or spit some lines, then write a transition section (bridge) to another section (chorus)
Give me something to record with my new synth guitar
For me, it's 32.
Sounds nice but I didn't really follow the main melody until about the end of the first drop (but now I get it), and it sounded really confusing with the intro (which still sounds too random to me), and also the verse/breakdown variation after the first drop/chorus has the same problem.
Maybe I'm just retarded, but I think there's too much stuff going on within the same midi clip, so I'd split it into different tracks. A main one that's simpler (but mantains the core features that the listener has to follow), and a couple different ones with all the secondary parts (interruptions, arpeggios, and whatnot).
These secondary midi tracks should obviously sound at least a bit different than the main one (otherwise it's the same). I'd put them more in the background (lower volume/velocity, more reverb, EQ, etc.) and I'd try making them less staccato (if the library/vst allows it just change the sound to one that decays longer, otherwise use a compressor and/or a longer but denser reverb tail or a subtle delay) so the notes of these secondary parts "lead" into those of the main part, if that makes sense.
Research how hocket/hoquet gets used in modern EDM (particularly genres like dubstep, comploextro and electro) to learn this sort of techniques.
But keep the chords in the same track as the main melody. I like how the voice count changes from one to several with the same sound.
Also just wanted to let you know that 110509 gets stuck in my head at least once a week and I have it downloaded in my library. Probably the best composition I've heard posted here.
Were you inspired by something in particular?
From the first listen it sounded so familiar but I can't figure out to what.
Final Countdown. Just the main riff though.
...and for me, it's 69. Gotta keep people on their toes.
ok but i want to use my other guitars too
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Thanks I’ll try improving on it from that and for the other thing I can’t remember what I was going for on it but thanks for liking it anyway
Haven't been on /prod/ for a few days, what did I miss, lads?
You're welcome brother.
Anything for a non-Ndebele-bastard.
#NdebelesAreFags
#NeverGiveFeedbackToNdebeles
Based and Shona pilled
lol now do metroidvania
Do something medieval
hey guys
you're gonna give me feedback, right?
clyp.it
ah shit i read that as weeks not days
I dunno, do you deserve it? What's your social credit score?
my social credit score is over 9000
trust me on this one
>what did I miss
nothing really
no memes, excessive shitposting and arguing, pretty meh overall
Well it's bad enough to put a dent even in a score that high. Unless you intend to distribute entirely in Western markets to further speed the erosion of their already tattered social fabric.
thats not feedback
probably cause none of y'all actually like to give meaningful feedback
Yes it is, I'm giving you marketing advice.
this is good; drums are a little loud tho. I would also put a larger reverb on your vocal chops but they don’t sound bad as is
Rate
Bass is synth
clyp.it
massive x is a really great synth with features you can’t find anywhere else, but it was obviously rushed as shit. more than a month in and they haven’t even released a full manual yet. the complete lack of visual feedback outside of performer is bizarre, but probably intentional. my hunch is that the designers wanted users to use their ear for sound design rather than visual cues. I prefer it to serum for anything that doesn’t involve editing wavetables desu
nice sounding guitar. it might be worse
>it might be worse
what?
it's that not bad. keep practicing
what's bad?
hey guys i would like some tips
i downloaded soundbridge like 2 weeks ago and been fucking around with it doing random stuff
i mean i'm now pretty familiar with most of the concepts and stuff involved in using a daw and its tools, however i seriously suck at mixing, as i don't know how to give a track a better definition without making it lose most of its... weight?
anyways, please don't be rude
a.uguu.se
and yes i downloaded a daw in the first place because of that guy's videos
your bro is just dumb. there are lots of smart younger dudes out there that def care about this shit.
velocity variation on the percussion would be a good place to start
Have I got rid of the weirdness in my voice?
vocaroo.com
First time making something like this. Thoughts? Is it raw enough?
Still got vocals to record.
clyp.it
My big (small) break guys
>i wanted to message you because i feel you have potential. right now i'm a team member of this channel called siivagunner, where we do arrangements of video game music and stuff (you can look us up). we're going to be doing a project outside of what we normally do, and i was wondering if you might be interested in making a remix for us? if you are interested, let me know if you have a discord account or not, and i can send you more details. thanks!
Should I do it?
Your timing is off, especially toward the beginning.
Ask if they pay you and when they say no, but they take the youtube money off your efforts, then decline.
Robert Greene's laws of power; never let someone else take credit for your work
brrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh the visibility breh
How's this drop sound: clyp.it
Compared to youtu.be
I still don't know what my style is. Groups like Carpenter Brut or Wolfgang Gartner built off of the baroque disco sound, so that's passe. Disco strings are out; slap bass samples are out; harpsichords are out; and anything remotely sounding like Justice is out. Just the meticulous production value and ambition remains. Looking to the past is a creative dead end. The future should be looked toward.
But what then?
fugggggggggg I feel like music's running out of creative options
>nice double triple
Looking to the past is not a dead end to reaching a "future sound." You need to stem off of something to get there. So just look for obscure or unpopular older music and then morph it toward something more modern. Mix and match until you have a new genre or style or whatever you're trying to create
>brrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh the visibility breh
Nice digits. I've been thinking about just posting on soundcloud and not promoting shit anywhere just to see how far it's possible to get with tags alone.
What do you think of that?
10 views max per track after ten years? ;)
i'm actually well aware of that, it sounds awkward at least, but it's because i just copy-pasted the drums and made minor variations just to have a rythmic element in the later parts because i got tired (it was pretty late) and just bounced it to test it out in other environments to see if i can pick up what it needs to sound clearer
the percussions are the first thing i was going to keep working on, i already have a general idea of what i want to do with them, and i know i shouldn't try to to go to a "mastered" sound in the composition phase but it bugs me for some reason
gimme feedback bitches
vocaroo.com
Upload it to clyp.it. It sounds alright, but the quality is bad
i don't really care
here are the lyrics:
/prod/ is shit
shit shit shitty shit
never gonna make it
learn music theory faggot
demarcus
learn music theory faggot
sammy
the end
Anyone know of any blogs or forums where people talk about new music?
Oh wait, I forgot I'm on Yea Forums.
Yea Forums is shit
I originally hated it, but now that I understand the lyrics, for reasons I can't explain I enjoy it a lot more.
g-guys
It's alright.
I know, it's a pretty blatant ripoff.
lmao of what?
ty user
This guy might be right
>Since Rap/Hip-Hop/R&B/Pop is currently the most popular style and uses amateur-esque computer generated sounds (soft synths), auto-tune, etc, I think listeners are starting to get tired of every song sounding so similar with the same kind of mixing effects and techniques. This leads me to believe that producers will start to embrace classical instruments again (more sample packs or they’ll sample the instruments themselves). The issue here is that the tools that audio engineers and producers currently use aren’t advancing at the rate they want. Meaning, most synthesizers (wave table synths, etc) can all do the same things and they kind of have their limits. You can do a lot with synths, but there absolutely is a limit until some new technology changes things, and we haven’t seen all that much in the past few years. You’ll see a rise in instrument sample packs again and possibly artists playing instruments other than guitar. The amateur producer will phase out a bit because music will once again require real musicians to compose the music rather than someone with little musical knowledge being able to draw notes on a grid like they do now. I’m already hearing the shift in some underground indie pop.
And also
>I’m going to be optimistic and say that people are finally going to get tired of lifeless drum machines and will rave about music that features real drums played by a real drummer that plays the drums like a lead instrument and is recorded and mixed by an engineer that knows what he/she is doing. 1960s and 1970s drum sounds will come back.
>Instrumentals will once again be on the pop charts, which is something that hasn’t happened much since the 1980s. People are finally going to get tired of every song being about romantic relationships or clubbing, so we will hear more fun fantasy based lyrics about wizards, elves, monsters, ghosts, space travel, history, cartoons, good times, etc. There will be an occasional silly nonsensical dadaist hit.
>Melodies will be more joyful and singers will sing in more pleasant tones than they have for the last 25 years. Pop music will once again be feel-good music. The music will consist of a mix of synthesized instruments that are quirky and colourful yet pleasant as well as acoustic instruments. The flute will once again be a common feature.
>With “popular” (heavily promoted) music these days being so atrocious (to my ears) these days, things can only get better.
what a fucking nostalgic boomer lmao. dumb take. people still records real instruments, but they are all replaced by triggered sounds and samples, because they sound in your face. the loudness wars will only get louder, this wont end here, or even back off as mr boomer naively proposes.
Well, where do you think music is going? What's going to be the new style? The loudness war is over. Give me some examples of modern music that are brick-walled.
;)
>Well, where do you think music is going? What's going to be the new style?
nego ney. ultra minimalism.
>The loudness war is over. Give me some examples of modern music that are brick-walled.
all of them? dynamics is a niche thing lately.
>ultra minimalism.
Are you basing this on the success of Lorde, Billie Eilish, etc.? I assume with that goes lofi? This is a very boring progression, but it's certainly easier to make that kind of music.
they are good though, and you can use it for other shit like not just that.
I don't know if anyone cares to read, but I figured I'd share my feedback and use with Syntorial over the last 3 days in case anyone is interested in checking it out.
PROS:
- Really Simple, there probably is not a better system to learning a synth from the ground up
- Explains more difficult concepts very easily (detuning, Filter ENV, delay shifting, and LFO)
- Covers everything you'd want to know about a synth
-Doing a couple lessons a day, and spreading it over a months time, you can probably learn how to operate most synthisizers
CONS:
- Doesn't really teach you how to make some of the staple sounds overtime (No acid bass, french house, or post-punk pads in sight)
- Is missing some newer information regarding filter tables, wavetable synth stuff (pretty easy to learn and I know that this can't cover everything), custom settings
- Getting specific sounds can be slightly frustrating, and sometimes having knobs just slightly off affect your rating, can be a little discouraging
Overall, I give it a 7/10, and with the bonus lessons a 8/10. Would like to see syntorial cover wavetable synths a little bit more, but overall if you coupled this + some ADSR tutorials, you'll easily within 2-3 months time be able to make a lot of synths, have a great foundation to create your own, and it is fun to learn, and even to refresh your learning as a more advanced producer (5 years production experience here). I'm also willing to post my feedback about David Gibson's art of mixing if anyone's interested
>(No acid bass, french house, or post-punk pads in sight)
why there are like 10000000 youtube tutorials on it, also why would anyone care about dead genres?
>Is missing some newer information regarding filter tables, wavetable synth stuff
if you own serum there's a syntorial part for it specifically
>Getting specific sounds can be slightly frustrating, and sometimes having knobs just slightly off affect your rating, can be a little discouraging
well that's because it's trying to develop your ear.. whats the point of being slightly off when you can be fully on?
I know there's a million tutorials on it online, but they should have covered what some of those staple sounds are. I know it has portions on serum, but it doesn't really go into depth like I wish it would have and I think they could have done using examples of how to make those staple sounds. And I know it's trying to develop your ear, but there's such subtle differences in delay and occasionally filter envelope release that it does get a little frustrating. I would be interested in a double submission feature
Reason stock sounds are dogshit though
>because people who use reason use presets
>using fl studio in 2019
why do normies do this? it still uses a 32 bit sound engine while ableton is in 64 bit. when I made my switch from fl to ableton, I noticed a massive improvement to my sound.
>b-b-but muh soundgoodizer
shoot, got me there
is OTT abletons soundgoodizer as a meme
There is no sonic difference between 32 and 64 bit though.
urr there are 32 more sonic differences check mate dumb person!!!!
OTT is a compressor, soundgoodizer is some preset EQ knob. (Serum has OTT built in)
that isn't what I meant, i meant as meme of the DAW. people who use FL chuck soundgoodizer on everything, and those in Live do OTT
soundgoodizer is also just presets for a multiband compressor with a big dry/wet knob.
Your both wrong, Soundgoodizer is a multiband compressor/limiter(maximizer) that was meant to serve as a demo with presets for the real program Maximus, and while your FL studio meme about it being thrown on everything is correct, it's simply because it just does it's job as a maximizer, and people understand that at it's base level.
dilate
this is a bop
I see Syntorial as a way to learn how synths work, and not really as a way to learn to make sounds.
Yes, the latter is inevitably a part of the first, but it's not necessarily its point.
There are a billion "staple sounds" that people could say it should teach, but if that was its goal it would be a whole separate course (which actually could be great as an additional pack).
Anyone?
Anyone remember the name of that Russian (?) website with all the Stems on it for download that Rick Beato gets all his shit from?
"Is OTT to Ableton the same way Soundgoodizer is to FL?"
or
"If Soundgoodizer is FL Studio's meme, is OTT Ableton's?"
or
"Is OTT Ableton's meme the same way Soundgoodizer is FL's meme?"
etc...
The answer is more or less yes.
Except Soundgoodizer is seem more like a cheap thing that noobs use in lieu of more serious plugins (kinda like Sausage Fattener), while OTT is generally taken more seriously (probably because many high-level producers are known to use it, and because you can still customize everything to fit your track).
drums are drowned out
not distorted/trashed enough for the vibe you're trying to create
progression is too structured and bland
not enough mood
you can do it
>People are finally going to get tired of every song being about romantic relationships or clubbing
>Is missing some newer information regarding filter tables, wavetable synth stuff
but there are 2 entire sections dedicated to massive and serum
remixpacks.ru
Anyone use trackers here?
(Pic related)
Thanks man, appreciate it
too much effort for what its worth
I actually think it’s quite a refreshing way of writing.
EZ Drummer is all you really need, unless you're really anal about your audio engineering shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Using renoise for sequencing and sketching. Haven't given sampling an honest try yet. What's the nerdseq connected to?
>tfw no MO gf to make pop hits with
Renoise is great, I really enjoyed using it briefly before buying the NerdSeq. I’ve realised over the years I’m much more into using samplers than synths.
The Nerdseq is connected to modular stuff but I’m mainly using it with my Emu sampler at the moment via midi
any depressed niggas in the thread?
All 66 of us.
make that 67
Count me in with the nigas who don't like what they make anymore
>mfw you make the funniest image meme in months, post it as the OP, and get no (You)s
no im gay
this general is so dead
fucking discord trannies
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>no dumb art hoe gf to make synth pop bobs with
they may seem fun on the surface but they are fucking nightmare.
avoid
what the fuck happenned to /prod/?
trannies took over
they all went to discord
Seconding this.
Not relationship material but good for a quick fuck, creampie, kill, fill pussy with greek yoghurt, dump in a ditch, and masturbate to nudes of.
Not speaking from experience, officer. Just a hypothetical scenario.
>all those pedals
Were synth players the original pedal board losers like modern guitarists?
whats the link
idk how to use discord properly so if that link is retarded let me know
>funniest
Right
wait ignore that i found the proper link
>funniest meme in months
>forgets about the justicefag video
dilate
Can someone help me setup my minilab MK2 to FL Studio. That fcker only recognizes 1 key for each sample ( kicks, synths , etc) i have. I already went to midi settings and did alll of the basic stuff,, but that fcker still doesnt let me use piano roll when i use a synth it only recognizes one different for each despite FL studio saying that all keys work.
because FL fucking sucks for anything MIDI related, you're better off learning a new DAW
FK..then ill learn Ableton since it works perfectly there. I just really like FL studio interface
i really don't understand the hype over the FL interface, it was my first daw and i did learn on it.. but once i moved on I always wonder how people can genuinely stick with it. i personally hated it
Ok
I thought it was...
>funniest image meme
>image
what's the difference between stand alone t-racks and using the vsts inside my daw? Is there any benefit from using the stand alone?
I liked it when I was using it but now it feels like a mess, too many windows to manage
videos are a series of images
CHECK MATE
what confuses me about ableton is that it seems lot more confusing than fl. But that is probably because im an idiot and never touched a DAW since last week
and the piano roll. Fl studio's is way better,
I’d stay away from fruity loops and ableton, both are pleb tier daws
fk but my mk2 only works on ableton ahah. Im fked lmao
Sell it and get Maschine
maschine is not a daw
Neither is mk2
well actually user............
new thread ok everyone
god i love pegging desu
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but anyone got any recommendations on a mic for recording both acoustic/classical guitar and vocals individually? Somewhere under £250 ideally.
Was looking towards a large dia condenser like the AT2035 but similarly could get 2 P170's for about the same, and I'm really not sure which would work better for what I'm trying to do.
Instaudio died and I'm waaay too self-conscious to use clyp.