What does Yea Forums think about streaming services?

*then

imagine relying on a company to maintain your music library
what a fucking joke lol
so if you dont have internet you cant listen to your music? what a sad person you have to be to subject yourself to that

Imagine celebrating the fact that companies are slowly taking away your ability to own things you pay for, and making you pay for it while they’re at it.

elaborate.

my band got placed on SPOTIFY today !!!
open.spotify.com/album/4wICgVtwTQTUvOm2wo5MpX

>so if you dont have internet you cant listen to your music?
it's not 2005 anymore. and all services offer offline storage but you won't acknowledge that for some reason.

imagine paying $10 a month for mp3s you don't fucking own
yeah no faggot
i'd rather just download them off soulseek and hoard them for life on my backup hard drive

Major record labels killed the industry, Mtv killed it, piracy killed it, ipods killed it

Just buy the albums you like if you really care

what difference does it make regarding ownership when it comes to making them available offline? it's just for less data usage, faggot.

>imagine paying $10 a month for mp3s you don't fucking own
yeah it's convenient as fuck. if i'm out with my friends and they mention an album i can instantly listen to it right then and there without needing a computer for soulseek.

the option will ALWAYS be there to digitally archive/hoard your favorite albums, i'll take what is convenient at the moment.

i was just responding to your one point about the inability to use these services without the internet, when you can back up like 10,000 songs (more than you'll ever need while your internet goes out for five minutes). ease up on the hate speech as well, it's not good for you.

>yeah it's convenient as fuck. if i'm out with my friends and they mention an album i can instantly listen to it right then and there without needing a computer for soulseek.
why the fuck are you pulling up music and listening to it while you're with your friends? do something worthwhile, like have a conversation you retarded zoomer
either way, you can pull up essentially any music you can think of on youtube for FUCKING FREE
imagine being a zoomer as retarded as yourself oh my god

UPVOTE UPVOTE UPVOTE SO MUCH THIS!

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you have never been in a situation where you've wanted to show a friend an album? a car ride? a party? i'm probably older than you, stop calling me a zoomer. (28)

yeah if i show them an album i tell them to go look it up on their free time. how much of an inconsiderate dick do you have to be to to pop in your earbuds right in front of your friends and start listening to an album because they told you about it?
fucking retarded zoomer
i'm so happy you'll be gone once school starts in a few weeks, kid

thank you. i really don't understand what all these guys are butthurt about. Spotify is not taking anything away from you. It's not an attack on ownership of media. You can still purchase or pirate any music you want to keep for yourself, and with Spotify you can pay $10 a month to rent at least 75% of the music you could ever think to listen to, in a way for you to conveniently access whenever you like. Are you all just stingy poorfags? If you're all set in the ways of old media, have never rented a movie before? you don't need to own every thing you like.
If I want to listen to something and it's not on spotify it's literally not a big deal at all. I can find another avenue to stream, download or purchase it. But Spotify has a majority of music I want to hear. I listen to new music near daily, what am I gonna do, torrent every new release that interests me? this ain't 2009

>Spotify is not taking anything away from you.
you are literally renting your music when you use spotify premium
seethe somewhere else zoomer. Yea Forums is for people who download their shit

I don't know why Spotify makes people seethe so much. I just use a cracked version to discover and save my music. If I find a song or an album to be really good, I download it. It's super convenient for me

why are you shilling so hard for a worthless service when youtube has a bigger, better selection than jewify that doesn't require one to sign up for an account to browse. no, one doesn't need to own everything they like but not everything available on jewify stays on jewify as the countless threads i've seen on here about anons whining about their precious albums disappearing can attest to

I was against it until I went ahead and bought the 3 months for $1 promo a month or so ago. It's pretty great for listening to music at work, and for exploring different music/albums that you wouldn't normally look into because downloading an album that you may not even like is a chore.

are you spitting facts, bro?

if you don't have a counterargument or anything constructive to add to the conversation consider not replying, child

>literally renting
yes i'm aware of this
>Yea Forums is for people who download their shit
I download shit when I want to keep it, or it's not available on spotify. but if it's on there, it's more convenient than downloading
>youtube has a bigger, better selection
you're not wrong. I mostly use spotify on mobile to listen to music at work. can't leave youtube app open on my phone and still use my phone

I dont think buying digitally is worth it. I have 4 tiers of listening to music depending on how much I like it
>1. Stream it
>2. Pirate it
>3. Buy the cd
>4. Buy the record

If im paying money I want something physical. Otherwise it isn't worth it

they're good i guess

IF that ever happens I can just pirate them or buy then which would STILL be the price of one CD as opposed to hundreds back in the day

$120 a year is kind of a lot dude

It's one days worth of work for unlimited hours of entertainment. Just cut down on hot pockets and you can afford it.

Why pay for music when I can just pirate it for free and stream it for free from my home server

I'm going to pirate all my shit and there's nothing you can do about it.

Kaiser Chiefs
King Gizzard
The Presidents
Def Leppard

>Friday August 2nd
>Tool art is available for the first time ever

I will re-enable my Spotify account

Spotify is for young mothers too busy taking their white children to the library for storytime to pirate their music.

>see all these albums? you can listen to them all whenever you want and wherever for exactly $0.00 by having digital versions saved onto your telephone. by doing this, you avoid paying money and having the music provider suddenly revoke access to certain albums or not having it at all in the first place. not only can you do this with music, but also TV, movies, video games, and creations of your own.

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Hey dude does all of your "music discovery" get you laid?
You always mention it in these spotify threads all over 4chin.
You act like listening to music is your job or something. Or like new music is the cum that you absolutely HAVE to get out of all the dicks in the room.

Oh, I get it. You must freelance for Pitchfork or something.

True patricians rip songs off Spotify.

I finally gave in to a paid subscription a few months ago, and I'm pretty satisfied. I use Google Play Music since they're the only service that lets you upload your own music to a personal library.

It's 320k, more than fine, my years of being a bitrate snob are far behind me, my old flac files crossed over anyway.

for the cost of two beers a month you don't have to go through the chore

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>paying for an objectively worse experience because "wah it's hard to download a youtube video as a mp3 file"

>cucks brain by letting a stupid coke addled tech bros algorithm determine my taste in music

>business model makes it easier for me to listen for music by simultaneously encouraging the overproduction of absolute tripe and criminally underpaying artists

>everyone thinks theyre a hipster now cause discover weekly put them on to some "totally obscure artist"

>tfw i've been pirating music since the days of Napster and been on every single private tracker since Oink first started
>I still use Spotify and Netflix even though I pirate everything also

It's just convenient. I have thousands of pirated albums (and movies) but still like to just instantly stream anywhere and get recommendations and stuff.

I wasn't even referring to downloading youtube->mp3, that's a million times worse than torrenting or scouring archives for mega links.

Look bro, I did that shit for 10 years, probably since you were in grade school. I have terabytes of music on hard drives. I'm telling you from personal experience, switching to streaming has been totally worth $10 a month, considering it takes me 15 minutes of work to make that much money, vs at least an hour to scour archives for 15-20 albums to torrent/mega rip that I may not even like.
I'm not even sure what experience you're talking about, typing in an album and streaming it in seconds? get real bud

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that was for you pal

People clinging to the idea of having “real” mp3s of their own are as bad as the clowns who went around with cd Walkmans in 2006.

Great if you listen to a large variety of songs, that change often. Horrible if you only listen the the same albums/artists over and over.

I like using it as a means of checking out music first and then downloading it if I like it. Plus I may want to listen to new music away from home, so it works in that regard too.

my bloody valentine discography gone for several months now

Radiohead, King Crimson, Placebo and Rammstein had all huge problems with Spotify, now fixed I think
MBV is completely missing
Smashing Pumpkins' Zeitgeist, Alice Cooper's Along Came a Spider and Rowland S Howard's Teenage Snuff Film are missing and that's just what I noticed lately
special editions' bonus tracks, singles and b-sides are being deleted all the time

>shit audio quality
320kbps isnt shit
>itunes allows you to sync local files with your cloud, so no issue
>suggested artists
noone cares about that
spotify is garbage. you can only download 3333 songs MAX and you cant sync your cloud with custom downloaded tracks. Itunes does all of that

if anyone still isnt convinced itunes is better, here are a few bands popular on mu that have a missing or no discography on spotify

Kevin and the bikes
Merzbow
Boris
HRSTA
The Wind Up Bird
Absent In Body
Cul de Sac
Boredoms
Labradford
Lingua Ignota
Paal Nilssen Love
Hell
Whitehouse
The Tuss
Natural Snow Buildings
Rose Kemp
Gorechestra
Icy P and the Funky Bunch
Tool
Orchestra of Constant Distress
Petbrick
Henri Pousseur
The Mars Volta
Seefeel
My Bloody Valentine

and many many more, but these are just at the top of my head

Itunes > Downloading from slsk > listening on youtbe > spotify

i just use youtube, it's pretty good

And theres not a single full radiohead studio album on youtube

The audio quality on YouTube is a hit or miss.

there isn't even studio version of Lucky on yt

I used to actively seek out and dl new music in my 20s but streaming is just so much easier, I don't have the energy and motivation anymore

youtube for quick listen of certain songs
spotify for random shuffle play in the background
dled stuff for actively listen to whole album

F

literally this

Yeah, Youtube premium.

They have shit payout to artists so I'm not using it. I'll buy the CD/digital files off the artist so they actually get money.

All shit

Where does everyone get their lossless files from? Looking for wav files if possible. I'm not willing to sign up for Tidal.

if you bought less than 12 records/CDs a year in the pre-streaming and pre-torrents era, you weren't really into music anyway. 120 bucks is nothing

Shit.
I prefer the archive.

the time it takes to pirate all the shit I check out once and then never listen to again does not stack up against the ease of just paying a streaming service a couple of bucks a month

but you do you

Agree. I got tired of hoarding hundreds of albums on my hardrive I’ll never listen to. I just want to give something a quick listen to see if it’s even worth downloading.

Why WAV? It doesn't support tags, and you can convert from FLAC anyway.

WAV is the format the entire production process uses, no need to change it after mastering.

I use Google Play because it comes with Youtube Premium or whatever they call it now. It's like the store brand streaming service but it has all the same shit plus I can download shit that's only on Youtube.

Unless you’re mastering this is irrelevant.

I want the files that are delivered to the pressing plant. If the album was mastered as a 96k 24bit wav file, that's what I would like to hear. Are these hi res files released anywhere?

FUCK STREAMING!

FILEZ FOR LIFEZ!!

Imagine paying for spotify because you can't handle listening to an occasional commercial.

Get a load of this cuck

Their comercials are much more annoying then you'd expect. I'll be listening to some lo-fi experimental shit and all of a sudden a commercial with Katy Perry music would come on 3x louder then what i'm listening to and completely destroy the atmosphere.

>Implying I don't know what the commercials are like.

They're not that bad, 80% of them are just commercials for spotify premium itself.

boredoms are completely gone in America

You're not part of the music community if you're stealing from it. The person who saves and buys music will always have a deeper connection with the music. If you're wondering why a lot of music isn't satisfying it's because your debt hasn't been paid, simple conservation of energy.

Listening to music on YouTube is autistic

Art should not be paid. I listen to many idm artists who don't do concerts and probably don't earn any money making music. I make electronic music myself and I have never thought that they should pay me. That's why current music is bullshit, because everyone wants to live off this and be famous.

Paying to listen to the radio is stupid, even if you get to pick to songs. Not to mention this has brought back "exclusives" and other shit due to the number of streaming platforms.

>>Art should not be paid

Of course it should be paid for. Art has been paid for forever. But it's only now that artists expect to be paid literally every single time someone accesses their work. Imagine if a painter expected a cut every single time someone entered a museum or gallery. Ridiculous.

Terrible if you like bleeps

>crap quality
>pay for offline access
>rent music
>datamining
>ads in middle of playing music
>censorship
>crap suggestion algorithms
what's not to love

I'll use their services when they start paying artists fairly. Fuck Spotify, Apple Music, all of them. Blood sucking leeches.

Fuck, that's my current situation rn

>Art should not be paid
I understand your point, if the purpose of making art is to get money the definition of "art" is simply bastardized but still the artist have to get royalties to get a living and keep producing his art