How can Putin ever recover???

Unironically based

I used to protest gay marriage rights by having gay sex with every dude I saw. I'm straight though, I just did it to prove a point.

I had anal sex with 10 guys and contracted aids
TAKE THAT VLADIMIR DRUMPF

Based comrade

based and checked penta 5s

checked

>get arrested in Worcester
>escape anti-gay Russia just fine

Really makes you think

this and the asap rocky thing really illustrate the arrogance of celebs, knowing that they can just break laws abroad without repercussions cuz they're famous

>I'm straight though
Sure lmao

>I'm going to come to a foreign country and tell them how their society should function
I fucking hate westerners.

he was a decent Russian killer

mad because your IQ is too low for morality

weak, they should have had gay sex on stage

Degenerate

>wester mass consumerist hedonism, individualism and rejection of responsibility
>morality

Based and checked.

Yeah Rammstein is definitely responsible for all of those things, ok retard

No but they're going around propagating the values of the society that is. You're really in no position to call anyone else retarded when you yourself are too fucking stupid to grasp such a basic concept.

You're just confirming that you're mad about nothing but your own retarded perception of the world, nobody with a private western education would dance around in these crooked logical circles

Ironically, this was a pretty badass move, but not a smart one. I wouldn't choose to fuck with Putin, especially in his own country.

here we just call them basketball americans

>nobody but people educated by western standards would see anything wrong with coming to other foreign countries and telling people how they should live
Perhaps you should reconsider the legitimacy of your imperialist "education".

By invading Germany

Why? I'm winning.

Its not that Russia bans homosexuality. Its that on a social level, common russians abide to so-called prison laws (ponyatia, пoнятия) in accordance to which if you ever contact someone who has ever engaged in passive gay activity - be it talking or touching people that were fucked for instance, then that implies that you are a passive weakling, turns you into an outcast in large groups and you are labeled with the term zashkvar (зaшквap). On the other hand it is completely fine if you are the one doing the fucking since it reassures that you are dominant and not a passive weakling.

There's an old Perestroia era movie called Bespredel (Бecпpeдeл, 1989) that features this as a plotnline. There's also lots of non-fiction books and documentaries that talk about russian prison laws and their impact on russian society.

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I hope you're being ironic because Rammstein is East German

german macho man rock, nothing strange here folks

Didn't you bring up morality a few posts up or is your mental state just that inconsistent?

Yeah, you don't have any. Even more pathetic and nonsensical, you think it obeys human borders. Do you eat shit, monkey?

To clarify a bit further: zashkvar is the activity of engaging with passive homosexuals, whereas the name used for passive homosexuals is petukh (пeтyх, literally translates as rooster; has its origin in a saying that a rooster's anus can fit a whole can of condensed milk).

Russian prison culture is very complex.

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It has nothing to do with borders and more to do with enforcing your own will while taking away the agency of other communities. You're clearly shitposting at this point though. You're honestly fucking pathetic.

look up buck dich on youtube

You don't get the agency to be immoral without judgement, only an extremely irresponsible coward would want this neolib autism to be normalized.

b-based

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And he still fuckin lost

You're right. What is moral is a society that propagates mental illness and self mutilation as well as destruction of families and single parent households. Clearly the US, being in a constant state of borderline civil and racial war, is a shining beacon of morality that the entire world must follow.

mfw I'll never be this close to overdosing on the koolaid
feelsgood man
(it's fascinating somehow)

I stand by the opinion that germans have been and will always be gayer then the french.

>dude I just got fucked in my ass by a man to pwn Putin, I bet he's fucking fuming!
lol

he probably is actually

The difference is the Germans have always been much deeper in the closet

Tell that Chechnya

well that explains this

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It probably worked. Putin is angered by all public display of homosexuality. That’s why you get sent to fuckin prison for doing it in Russia idiot.

he's already fuming 24/7 due to being a balding manlet

More like KEKstain

thats pretty punk

Check them

So these two men committed a homosexual action and Putin is still safe and in charge of Russia? It doesn't seem like Rammstein came out on top in this situation.

great replies

It's illegal (you'll have to pay a small fine if you do it) to propagate and promote faggotry to minors. That's fucking all. And evil homophobic dictator Putin not even once said a bad word about fags.

How is Russia so based

can say the same about americans and europeans criticizing japan society

Holy based.

There's nothing holy about homosexuality, user.

I can think of at least one thing that might be holy about it

There should be a law in the US that prohibits teaching trans shit in schools

fag

Humanity should uphold a basic level of morality/human rights yes

What is that level and how is it decided?

based and gay

underrated

NUMBER 5 ALIVE

Chechens are Muslim

by white people :^)

>Rammstein doing something for theatrics and shock value
What an unprecedented event! They've only been doing it for 25+ years now and people still get riled up. It only gets them publicity, which is exactly what they want.
Meanwhile the fans expect it and enjoy it. They also remember times like when a concert was stopped to open the floor up to everyone (instead of a small group of VIPs who paid to just stand there.) Stuff like this is why they have such loyal fans in Russia and many other countries.
youtube.com/watch?v=KtZz_d3QgBE

I mean this is the least gay thing they've done desu

The only thing wrong with it was that Paul wasn't kissing me.

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that hairline tho

No seriously, what is the foundation for this moral obligation that civilizations have?

ask /pol/

hitler was right

Empathy

Why does empathy matter? Where does this value judgement gain its authority from?

Based

Gay!

the basic reasoning of 'what if you were in their shoes'

i hope rammstein gets banned from russia desu

>daily reminder that rammstein is a terrible band

basedest digits i seen today

I am aware of what empathy is. That still doesn't answer any moral questions here. Why is it good on a universal level for people to be treated equally? What is your moral foundation? All you are doing is repeating your own subjective reasoning without explaining why it matters to me. I can put myself in someone's shoes and still conclude that they deserve to die. Can you tell me why that is wrong to think?

>came out on top in this situation
im sure one of the guys did

>I hope Russia pisses off a bunch of people and loses out on money generated from an act that consistently fills venues

>Why does empathy matter?
autism

>implying that Rammstein is the driving force behind Russia's economy
Moral principle > an insignificant amount of money from a shitty band

you don't care

I strongly believe that empathy matters. I'm trying to demonstrate that his moral epistemology is flawed and cannot account for itself.

If Russia had moral principle then the band would not have been allowed in the first place. What happened is nothing new and nothing will result from it beyond the few dramatic news headlines.
It's hilarious how many people are acting like this is the most shocking thing Rammstein has ever done. A similar thread on /pol/ has a bunch of "fans" who are appalled and swearing to stop listening to them. Which makes it obvious they were either lying about being fans or truly oblivious.

I do care. My main point here is that there is no morality without God. Sans God, your moral epistemology falls apart. However, with revealed truth comes accepting that you are wrong about certain things, like homosexuality.

but it feels so good in my butt

BÜCK DICH

t. just finished his first philosophy 101 course
sorry bud but you're not smarter than anyone else just because you've learned the babby tier argument that all reasoning (moral or otherwise) is ultimately circular or arbitrary

Morality doesn't exist if there's no God. Can you prove me wrong?

Gods are just personifications of human ideas, therefore morality is human. Can you prove me wrong?

I'm talking about comparing one viewpoint with another, not specific religions. This is a philosophy debate, not an anthropology debate.
The fact is that if you want to claim morality has any existence outside of subjective claims (which means anyone's moral claim is just as valid as the next), then you have to believe in God. That is my claim in this discussion. Refute it.

ur dumb lol

I'm going to take that as an admission of defeat. Atheists can never answer that simple question.

So what if I believe in a god that says "Gay is okay."? Then that would be a morally acceptable lifestyle because a deity/religion deemed it as such and that reflects upon humanity as a whole. You seem to be equating God to your Abrahamic view as if that is the only one. In which case it is pointless to argue with such a limited viewpoint because it uses itself as a claim of authority.

That takes us to a different discussion concerning the claims of different faiths and how they hold up to historical, logical, theological, philosophical, etc scrutiny. I am of the strong conviction that Orthodox Christianity is the most consistent religious faith there is.

morality is subjective and if you need some other 'authority' to justify your personal views on something then you're a pussyfaggot serf.

I wish I could kiss Richard,lucky guy

As long as you are comfortable believing that there is nothing wrong with raping children and therefore there would be nothing wrong with legalizing it, have at it lad.

The fuck kind of reasoning is that? If anything, society has created those laws which criminalize that in spite of religious institution and belief.

But I do believe it's wrong to do those things. I just can't prove that it's the objective, universal truth.

Society has created those laws, yes, but that ultimately means nothing in this discussion. If you believe morality is subjective, then a child rapist's opinion on morality is just as valid as yours. Therefore, if the authorities legalized child rape, you could not say that it's wrong without contradicting yourself. You have forfeited the ability to make absolute claims regarding even the things that seem obvious.

So do you admit that, in your worldview, there is nothing actually wrong with legalizing child rape? Since morality is subjective, the opinions of the authorities are just as valid as yours.

shut the fuck up

I'm allowed to disagree with authorities. That is how laws evolve. And no matter what /pol/ says, society is not going down a slippery slope to culminate in legalizing/accepting what you describe.
This has stopped being about the role god plays in morality. It has become a jumbled mess of thoughts and assumptions with no connection.

No? The reason I have the subjective viewpoint that child rape is wrong is because it causes great trauma to the victim that in most causes will haunt them for life, or send them into a downward spiral of drugs or possibly even future abuse themselves. There's very obvious negative cause and effect. That's the basis of my stance.
For all I know some advanced alien with an IQ of a billion could make an argument that child rape is good that I wouldn't be able to refute. Until then, though, I'm quite at peace with my view and my morality is based on my own understanding of the world around me.

>Everything they've sung about and done in the past is fine
>A tiny kiss on stage is over the line
Wut

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You are missing the point. Legalizing child rape is just an example to show you that you don't actually believe morality is subjective. Everyone likes to say morality is subjective until they realize that they have absolute moral standards and beliefs. The problem is that this contradicts the naturalist's position. You, like many others today, are in the trap of atheistic cognitive dissonance.
>I'm allowed to disagree with authorities.
You can say that you, in your own subjective and worthless opinion, believe the authorities are wrong. You cannot say that what the authorities are doing is immoral in any real level, though. This goes for any extreme you can imagine.

>The reason I have the subjective viewpoint that child rape is wrong is because it causes great trauma to the victim that in most causes will haunt them for life, or send them into a downward spiral of drugs or possibly even future abuse themselves.
Why is any of that bad? You are still making liberal use of value judgements that do not exist in your worldview.

This picture is banned in Russia.

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By being an absolutely backwards oligarchy shithole.

All pictures offensive to the authorities are not legal. You can sit down for repost for several years. Seriosly

I think they're bad because I know what it's like to be a kid and how much I would not have liked to have had something like that happen to me, so I suppose I think they're bad because of empathy? And I suppose this somewhat more indirectly is ultimately just looking out for one's self interest (ie. it's wrong to drive on the wrong side of the road because you could kill someone, and that someone could be me).
I'm not trying to make an argument for why it's objectively bad, I don't need to, I think morality is subjective.

Boomer cringe

The US are completely fucked. I live in france where the streets are barricaded and on fire every weekend an it still not as fucked.

So revolutionary, wow

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the redhead still looks hot, but the brunette has bogged herself

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>HEY LIL DONNIE

>A band that once mocked America for its trivial seflish decadence, does the same thing and acts high and mighty about it

utterly based

Everyone hates Fags in Russia. Football fans, Rappers, Art niggas, Weebs, Gangster, Metalheads, Gopniks, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, Tsoi and Troitsky. You will never change Slavs view, most of the world thinks this shit is disgusting and it won't change. And the countries that did suffer on a social level.

>Nazis acting like they're on the right side of history again

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Underrated post

youtube.com/watch?v=IdGpEquWuiU&t=561s
Combat Gay Propaganda by listening to Russian Art Rock.