> "Oh user, you should get a career so you can make enough money to live, but you can also do music on the side..." > "You'll never be successful enough to make money off of your music, you should find a job you enjoy. I work 40 hrs a week as a software developer, yet I'm still able to create my shitty boomer rock music that nobody listens to *sips monster*
Do these retards ever wonder why they think its impossible to be a successful musician? It's because they don't devote all their time an energy into it, and give up as soon as they realize how hard they need to work to reach their goal. I can't stand part time musicians, it's so depressing to see someone who's in a band yet also working some retarded day job. I don't know why, but I can't fucking stand it when boomers tell me I should find a career and work on music on the side...
It's like they're incapable of seeing the ways that someone could create music for a living... You don't have to be famous to make money off of your music. I created my own record label, and have already made around 2k from selling merch and getting gigs for other artists.
Aiden Stewart
You’re just a lazy fuck with no inspiration. Work is where real life comes in.
Easton Hernandez
if you're actually a serious musician writing mature music, then good for you, but if you're in your 20s and think it's virtuous playing obnoxious garage rock and not having steady jobs, then fuck you. people who think working 20 hours a week at a coffee shop means they're the ones really living on the edge of existence, the margins of society, and that's why their shitty songs are special can suck it.
Josiah Reed
I used to be like you until I realized that I’m not gonna make a living off my music. Bro I’ve released multiple records that have been shilled and praised by some Yea Forums posters and were put on their AOTY lists but it doesnt mean shit. I’m not gonna be with a career unless I move to LA and become literally homeless, have friends in the underground with connections, or be rich as hell and pay off blogs or some other scheme. I can’t even get a show because my music might be too niche. But I’m not gonna sell out and make some Snail Mail bullshit or hop on some PC music bandwagon to make money I’m just gonna make what I want to make and am capable of. I love doing it but I’m realistic and know that I have to have other pursuits.
Thomas Miller
bwahahahahaha
lazy fucks
you CAN make a living off of music, EASILY. Yet here you are wageslaving away at burger king while working on your shitty mixtape.
You are exactly the type of people my post was about...
It's easy to make a living off of your music. Even if it's a small one.
Step 1: Wageslave up to $10k
Step 2: Buy a small house in the country somewhere (there are tons for 10k or under...)
Step 3: Grow your fanbase and sell merch/do shows OR start your own label (like I did) and leech money off of other artists. 10$ CD sales start to add up when theres some relatively popular bands under your label...
Jeremiah Ward
You’re retarded. In order to make an album that is actually listenable it costs money. 600 for mastering every time no matter what. Theres studio time and if you go the home recording route you usually have to spend on any gear needed to make your work quality. It costs me that much to make a record and shilling on Yea Forums does not make you that money back. Unless you make electronic music or any genre you can strictly make on a DAW it will cost you time and money while supporting yourself. You’re probably some rich spoiled faggot.
Isaac Anderson
You'll never be successful in music because there's no success in music. As a career choice, it's a fucking hamster wheel.
Ethan Adams
Your music is probably generic if you can get shows booked with no issue. Promoters are a bitch to get in contact with. unless you know them or you put on your own show but again that requires connections. Without connections you’re wasting a lot of time or money. When it comes to the label its the same risk as starting a new business. There is a lot of competetion out there in the Bandcamp age. It would be foolish to risk and invest that much money without certainty that you can garner any interest in your label and that artists will agree to be released by you when theres hundreds and hundreds of others. This is just coming off as a humble brag thread. If you got lucky and do what you love thats awesome but the same won’t apply to everyone and turn out the same.
Blake Price
For how much time and energy is spent on networking, branding and promotions, successful musicians would be exceptional to be doing 20 hours of music a week.
Alexander Baker
lmao you think it's the engineer's fault your folk project didn't sell because he recorded the acoustic guitar wrong
Colton Sanchez
no one has ever told me that, and it kind of sucks having no money to live on d e s u getting shows booked is easy, getting people to show up not so much
Christopher Foster
you live in a fantasy bubble where you are guranteed to succeed if you work hard enough, the truth is that many people work incredibly hard, achieve a very high skill level, and still has to work for a living.
However, these people have to work at Wendy's when they are in their 50s because they went all in on a useless career.
Music is very competitive. It's very possible that you give it your everything for many years and never get rewarded.
John Morris
I think the best illustration of how useless music is is Chris Potter.
Chris Potter is the best living sax-player, there is really no contest he just kills everyone. you will never ever be as good as he is.
Chris Potter is always touring, he's always realeasing an album and his tour always comes to bum-fuck Sweden where he plays for 150 people.
Imagine being the best in the fucking world and attracting 150 people.
And I get it, maybe you'll be playing something more lucrative than jazz but this example really illustrates how you can work incredibly hard and never get rewarded in this industry.
Joshua Lee
I just consider making music a hobby. I'm a bassist in a local death metal band making a few hundred a month off of merch sales if I'm lucky, while I work as a sheriff's deputy full time. Cop stuff pays the bills but it's nice to get some beer money from the side stuff
you keep saying this but are you doing it? put your money where your mouth is bud
Chase Green
Based
Nolan Foster
hey is that poopy the frog
Ayden Davis
What’s your band?
Jeremiah Kelly
Fact: if you live off your art you eventually isolate yourself from the outside world and become a cringy out of touch puppet who unironically supports political parties. The true auteur works in contact with the people to better provoke them or give them a voice.
>shilled and praised by some Yea Forums posters and were put on their AOTY lists Cringe
Camden Lewis
>people taking this bait
Charles Diaz
Hi blood incantation I love your music btw
Luke Cruz
At that point you aren’t really making a living with music anymore, you’re just working in a music related business
Jonathan Sullivan
He’s always touring and making music... Sounds like he gets to do it for a living. No, choosing music as a means to retire yourself early is a fucking joke. Choosing music cause that’s what you wanna do pretty much every day is different.
Austin Fisher
Albini actually talked about this in an interview youtube.com/watch?v=tiitifPJkow Basically he's saying that musicians who desperately want to live off of their music are idiots and desu I'd trust the words of a well known producer more than some faggot like you The truth is unless you're an edgy 14 y/o girl with established artists in your family there's little chance that you're going to make it as a musician Also be prepared to be depressed and on the edge of existence 24/7
This is all fine and well if you live with your middle class parents who are too soft to kick you out.
I have rent and bills to pay, I’m not quitting my job for what might be a pipe dream. The only way I could get a reasonable income from music is doing covers busking and cash in hand pub gigs which do not offer a secure source of income. By working I can focus solely on my own music and not have to treat it like a job but rather a passion.
James Phillips
yes he's a professional but similar talent spent doing literally anything else would grant him economic indepence in no time. That's the point, you reach his insane level and you're getting by. That's horse-shit.
Angel Roberts
You should hear some of the traditional folk musicians in Edinburgh who often get nothing more than a free drink or two for performing in a pub, some have absolutely mastered their instruments. Talent and hard work won’t guarantee success in a niche field.
I believe you for sure! We've now arrived at the point I was initialy trying to make. Even if you work incredibly hard, and are very gifted, there's no sure thing you'll succeed in music.
Putting in the same effort as a doctor / engineer / lawyer gives you a very comfortable life.
Jonathan Phillips
id rather work a 9-5 then try and be trendy and produce tracks for other people. also id work a 9-5 so i can buy some fucking gear. this post is dumb shut up
Lucas Nguyen
But that sounds great. I'd love to play for 150 people who actually appreciate the music I play instead of 1500 people who attend my concert to get stoned and post on their smartphone.
James Morales
t. trust fund frogposter
Robert Long
That’s actually a really good point. One of the best gigs I have ever been to was Alabama 3 playing an acoustic set at a very small venue, the atmosphere is great when everyone is into it and you are within a few feet of the band.
As a performer my favourite place to play is “Scotland’s smallest pub”, can only fit twenty inside max but you always get the audience’s complete attention.
Xavier Turner
Whatever makes you happy, Unkle Adams. It's not as if a stable source of income is preferable over something that is pretty much up to chance.
Xavier Miller
Seething rockists all over this thread. Just give up on guitar and realize bass music will save you.
