How feasible is self-teaching yourself piano? Not just the basics, but actually being a good player

>pretty much the easiest instrument to learn by your own/youtube/books
I strongly disagree, although I'm aware that a lot of people think that. You can probably get decent. But the problem is that most people don't understand that there is a traditional technique with which you have to approach the piano in order to not get limited after some time.

Bach prelude in c major
Chopin preludes op. 28 no. 2, 4, 7 and 20

Those are some examples at least

Funny how great pianists can look so different in their playing then. The truth is there are a few foundational principles. Not a truly specific way of playing

Just go for whatever you enjoy user, a good method book will usually include a list of repertoire you can practice at a specific level. Also check out sites like the ABRSM, they have lists of graded repertoire.

actually great pianists look pretty much alike. the ultimate goal is to get the power from your shoulders, but there are a lot of steps to take to get there. The most important one is probably to get a 'smooth hand', but to understand what that even means takes some years if you're not a exceptional talent.

Of course lessons with a teacher are better than studying on your own, but depending on his location and financial status user might not have direct access to one.
Personally I'd recommend he tries playing the instrument for a couple months with a good method book (I usually recommend Alfred) and if he enjoys it he can always seek out a teacher.

sure. I only disagree with the statement that piano is the easiest instrument to learn by yourself. It's actually one of the harder ones, but with patience and interest you can learn it as well.

Which would you rate hardest then?

the hardest one that I know is actually piano. That's because you're easily tricked into thinking that playing piano is a exclusively mental thing because the connection between your fingers and the sound you produce is interrupted by the instrument's mechanic. Playing guitar or drums is much more physical, so you realize from the beginning that technique is involved and that it's important to learn it.

Yes and no, I can't compare for every instrument, but I've sat in on (classical) guitar and piano lessons. After half a year the piano kids are usually playing pieces with two hands, stuff like the Bach minuet while the guitar students are still playing single-line melodies.

In my eyes it's an instrument that's relatively easy to pick up and play something on, but due to that you also get the technical insanity of composers like Liszt. In the end pushing every instrument to its limits is insanely hard.

Yes I agree with this

I actually have the opposite experience. Picking up guitar and learning chords to sing to or accompany others does only need a few weaks. Getting something decent out of the piano takes much longer.

Well, to learn those same chords would be easier on piano surely

Not him, but either basson or oboe. Or, if you're a masochist, english horn.

yes but that's what I'm talking about. It's not rewarding to play chords on the piano. You get to a spot where you want to play in front of others much faster with guitar.

I have heard of an effect that causes this , i dont remember its name but its basically: "if you have heard about a new metal band you may start seeing it more often"

Imagine by John Lennon

Not yet.

Baader-meinhof phenomenon

this. im a self taught jazz pianist unironically. just youtube and books

Violin

it’s the hardest instrument to learn to actually play well let alone master and if you say otherwise you’re probably not a musician.

depends on the anons intentions for learning in the first place. if they just want to jam at home or with some buddies at an open mic, then why not? also im pretty sure there are videos from instructors that explain proper form and technique

Good argument