New to production? Check it; pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj . Post what you're looking for in feedback. GIVE feedback to get feedback. . Post WIP's in; Clyp.it but please make an account as "Demarcus" with a blank photo, or you won't get any feedback. . DON'T link to Soundclouds or youtube channels (or be banned)
That guy doesn't look angsty or depressed enough to be Demarcus.
Tyler Taylor
He really knows his fl studio using wigger incel audience
Henry Evans
Oh no no mo
Carter Smith
What's the new hookup for hq anonymous sound uploads?
Brayden Green
if i want to bring down the highs of my sample so the horns i have playing can shine through, where should i cut on the eq?
Camden Gonzalez
1346Hz is the frequency. 11 o clock resonance and a 4-pole LPF. These are the correct settings, and anything else will sound like shit.
Samuel Morgan
Nigger are you serious i mean i never read this thread my eye just caught your post while scrolling and i'm not some kind of kanye but doesn't it depend on multiple things like do you have a baritone sax and a tenor french horn? Or a whole section? From what you say it seems like you have a kind of soprano or higher sound on the horns, otherwise cutting highs doesn't really make a difference. What i would do is go to your parametric eq program, look at where the horns are producing the most noise on your frequency spectrum and then cut your samples highs according to that. If you don't have some kind of visual eq program, then you'll have to just do it by ear?
Owen Campbell
did you just call me a nigger
Isaiah Clark
>lpf >high shelf >find the frequency you want to come through on horns and bring it down on the sample using medium Q life has many doors, ed-boy
Oh wait never mind you actually want us to tell you what specific frequency to target Sorry I just thought you were a novice, I didn't think you were retarded
Nolan Cruz
Take a chill pill, nigger. I'm trying to ascertain certain informations in order to more efficiently accommodate your request.
Aaron Stewart
go fuck yourself i won't even read your post thanks for wasting time writing it haha stupid racist asshole
Colton Thomas
It's not like your shit was gonna top any charts if you can't even eq a horn section, nigger. How old are you?
Mason Barnes
>It's not like your shit was gonna top any charts if you can't even eq a horn section, nigger i just asked a question
>How old are you? what does this have anything to do with anything fuck off
Joseph Wright
OP who asked the question, just wanted to put it out there, I'm not the one that's offended over the n word. Just know I'm not the user you're arguing with lol
Samuel Jones
what the fuck is this dude why are you pretending to be me
dont believe this guy im the one who asked the question
Alexander Morales
>I'm not the one that's offended over the n word so you think its ok to call people nigger
Wyatt Cruz
what a straw man lol. I just don't care and i'm not wasting my time being outraged. I just ignore it and move on. Simple.
Julian Morgan
nope. I want to say thank you for answering my question if you are the first dude that answered back
I know everyone wants this and it's easier said than done, but how can I make a living only producing music?
I've been paid twice for music for a short film and a promotional video, as well as some other free "commissioned" stuff, and it was so satisfying and liberating being able to experiment with different sounds, synths and ideas, instead of the pressure of making "personal" music.
How do I go further with this? Are there forums where indie film makers / game developers / others search for people to work with? Am I out of luck because I have no contacts?
I'm fully aware music production is probably the most saturated creative field there is.
Joseph Rogers
why not hit up the people you already produced music for and see if they know anyone else looking for a composer?
Lucas Gutierrez
Nobody who is on this board is gonna know lol, we are a meme.
Unironically go to reddit (I know)
Daniel Edwards
definitely what said. Getting work from people IRL rather than strangers online is how you take yourself out of the saturated, people selling songs 3 minute songs for 10 dollars a piece, market.
it's also incredibly beneficial (in my exp) to have a demo reel to show anybody who might need your services. it doesn't have to be fancy, just some examples of your paid and personal work with maybe a small description of what you did for the client
Welp since instaud.io is going away (can't blame the guy, I always suspected it would be a temporary site since no ads) I guess I'll have to just ask for feedback on what I already have uploaded.
Made with LMMS. Meant as a theme for like a Death Star attack.
Hudson Robinson
So, I want to make music like 70s/80s rock, but when listening to it, I feel like the best way to make the music is with a real guitar, so I'm distancing myself from it as I want to make electronic. I'm trying to come up with something new and I'm whittling it down.
First of all, Cross was made with a few big samples like in Newjack, Stress, and Phantom. The sound on that album was revolutionary and got Justice doing remixes for Justin Timberlake and other big stars. Even though it's my favorite album of all time, the success of that album can't be replicated. It was very much a product of 2007. Copying that album's sound outright would be pointless for what I'm trying to do.
Then Justice went the route of prog rock with forgettable melodies instead of going for a more Toto approach to the pop hits. They went huge, epic and cheesy. They also used very little real guitar on the album, and instead replaced the faux guitar parts with synthesizers, which I've seen criticized on the internet. Also, their last two albums never even went Gold the way Cross did.
So here's the crux of the issue. I want to make electronic, but I'm not sure where to progress from Cross's sound. I feel like Cross was the last truly revolutionary electronic album and there must be a natural evolution that Justice missed between it and AVD. Cross cemented common electro and dubstep. I'm comfortable with rock music and play guitar, but I have no way to record guitar atm. I also would like to stick with a pure ITB sound.
Sampling large blocks of music is rather played out, so I don't think I'm going to go the way of Newjack, Phantom or Stress from Cross. Microsampling is in though.
What could be the natural progression of Cross's sound? I know it's not AVD or Woman. Something was lost between Cross and AVD.
it's time to stop posting you clearly have no actual musical ideas and are fucking around with some non defined sound that you will never realize because you can't even audiate it a little bit just stop
Dominic James
Why does clyp.it say my files aren't supported when its clearly an mp3 im trying to upload? This is retarded
Christopher Russell
70s rock was still pretty big into keys, electric pianos and transistor organs and such. You could just learn to play guitar, consistent practice and you'll be decent enough to record yourself after a year probably.
Nathaniel Allen
Dungeon prog from cassette samples
Christian Lewis
>I feel like Cross was the last truly revolutionary electronic album
STOP POSTING you need to actually listen to electronic music to make it or be saying shit like that, you're straight embarrassing yourself bro
also including *full name* makes it sound pretty troll-y is this the text generator? I honestly can't tell
no idea. found this simp comment a while ago when I was going through some videos on youtube
Robert Baker
>it's time to stop posting No it isn't. Not yet. I just don't know what I want to do. You guys told me not to copy Justice, so here's where I am now. I play guitar. I can play Yngwie Malmsteen shit. Possibly. You might be onto something. Almost all electronic I've listened to doesn't interest me dude. I don't know why it keeps defaulting to my name. I took it off. No.
>You guys told me >letting anons influence your musicianship this much that's fucking pathetic Dylan
James Gutierrez
But part of it is true. That album is very much a product of 2007. They used a lot of production tricks that other electronic artists weren't using, like creative use of gates on Newjack, baroque musical elements, and the microsampling in general. I don't want to completely copy their sound - that would be kind of stupid and isn't going to get me anywhere.
As I said, I feel like something was lost between Cross and AVD. They lost their pop hit potential. Instead of making music that has groove, they made big epic but sterilized and disjointed arena rock. The natural evolution of Cross in the electro-disco scene wasn't AVD. It was nu-Toto - compressed Toto with an extra focus on making the drums feel "live" and with more complexity instead of the standard four on the floor.
>The natural evolution of Cross in the electro-disco scene wasn't AVD. It was nu-Toto - compressed Toto with an extra focus on making the drums feel "live" and with more complexity instead of the standard four on the floor. Or maybe not. If I just made the drums sound live, that would be pretty pointless. I may as well get a drum set. I have no idea what I want to make
Is it just me or has the quality of music shared in /prod/ taken a nosedive over the last few months? I used to regularly hear snippets that were better than anything I make, but now I come to these threads for the self-esteem boost I get after hearing six shitty """"beats"""" in a row. What happened? Did all the talented people /makeit/?
Landon Campbell
>that would be kind of stupid and isn't going to get me anywhere. what you're doing RIGHT NOW is stupid and not getting you anywhere
stop fucking explaining the same bullshit over and over, nobody asked nobody cared and you're wasting your time
Levi Torres
>What happened? did you stop listening? i regularly hear shit that's quite good. *overall* the quality is absolute shit but there are usually a couple things posted every thread that are genuinely decent
Wyatt Martinez
SLOW DAY Cut rearranged spliced some shit pacing still feels off, still don't know about the last bit/part 2
I like the first part a lot better than where it was previously, although I miss one of the quieter parts in your last version. I wouldn't worry about the pacing feeling weird too much, its kind of fitting for the style.
Not really into the last bit, doesn't sound like it would lead into hip hop to me, but if it would I'd expect it to use more distorted percussion. All of it sounds too clean.
Jaxon Anderson
I've taken a break for a few months Not that you were referring to my stuff lol
Connor Ramirez
>I used to regularly hear snippets that were better than anything I make i'm sure that's not a very high bar
Samuel Mitchell
>I miss one of the quieter parts in your last version noOoOOooo i felt too conflicted about it so just scrapped it completely :(((( idk, part of it was feeling rushed to me, so cutting and splicing the more intense parts to be longer was intended to mitigate that as well
I was probably going to completely redo the hip-hop part in a different session anyway..... may or may not become its own song :S not that you asked, but it's part of a story in my head: everything about this is borrowing from something i've done previously or a memory etc so even if the music doesn't initially hint at hip-hop that sound has a sentimental reason for being there. Thxx for replying though bb
Ethan Rivera
I went to an Adele concert. I was disappointed. She sang and the music immediately stopped.
In Reaper, how do you use an effects plug-in on a VST instrument? Do you just open them both in the same track via the "add fx" option, or do you have them in separate tracks and have the second track somehow refer to the first?
Levi Powell
presets
Dominic Allen
I genuinely wonder if this is a meme or you are serious.
Nolan Hughes
how do you pirate Ableton or FL? I thought with online activation you can't really crack things anymore
Owen Parker
/prod/, tell me about your production journey from when you first started to now, even if it's only been weeks.
i need some inspiration and motivation to get off my ass and actually keep learning. i know "if you're not doing it you're obviously not interested enough in it" is a legitimate argument but in my case i'm a huge pussy who gets overwhelmed by the sheer amount of things i have to learn so i keep putting it off. i bought my equipment and DAW in 2016 and still haven't made anything substantial. end me.
Ian Cook
I can't make a beat without busyworks but I don't watch his videos anymore because he doesn't like me since I insulted his lips. Here's one I made off a tutorial
>picked up guitar at 15, in love with it >pirated daw at 20 in college, worsening depression, not too serious about music >21-23 5~ hours a week on music, full blown alcoholic piece of shit laying in bed posting on Yea Forums 24/7 basically, can barely play guitar, waste of life got clean and all i do is music now, i lost all my guitar skills and /neet/ but things aren't so bleak now.... I know that's probably not inspiring to anybody but to me *anything* is better than just sitting on your ass not even trying, and i'm terrified of falling back into that. it sounds ridiculous coming from somebody in their 20's, but what secretly motivates me more than anything is actually the fear of getting old and realizing i wasted my life on dumb shit.... or failing at this only because i didn't put enough time into it idk..... rock lee shit.... i'm going to do git good or i'm going to anhero
Jace Robinson
doesn't matter, we all die in the end statistically speaking, we will not be remembered by future generations
Tyler Flores
lol yeah basically, i was just trying to avoid saying it like that our time is finite so i want to do something that means something to me and hopefully can mean something to other people in the way that the art I like means to me :^) :(
Andrew Brooks
We return and if we're lucky maybe we can enjoy the fruits of our labor from a third person perspective and possibly even be inspired by it to continue what we had started in the previous life. Pretty beautiful, life is.
Parker Harris
i know, i was being an edgelord just have fun while you can is all i can really say.
Carson Wright
Both my dad and brother are guitarists, I kinda learned a couple times but it never stuck. I own two guitars I can't really play lmao. Started a little over a year ago when my bro bought me an MPK mini for my birthday, probably because we had been listening to synthwave mixes while gaming most of that year. It's a super fun hobby, lots of reading and pattern/math stuff to learn, and now I'm trying to learn to play keyboard a bit to better capitalize on ideas. Downside is I've started lusting after hardware and I really can't support that habit financially.
Wyatt Flores
I'm sure I can figure it out, I haven't tried yet. I'm just curious how it works, because I haven't pirated shit in like 20 years, before online activation was a thing.
Camden Hernandez
i'm happy for you user.
Luis Ward
just keep making things, even if it sounds bad. you have to sound bad before you can sound good.
Thomas Stewart
i've been playing keyboard for about 15 years now i only made it this far because it is fun to me ask yourself why you are pursuing this.
Ian Allen
Do any of you guys have any favorite guides on workflow/organization? I'm just day dreaming here, but as I'm learning about databases, I'm itching to document everything that goes into a track. Like sample source, file locations, details about the sample, notes regarding changes/effects, etc.
Dude! I have some myspace demo tracks by that guy when he was posting under a different name -- I just can't remember the name. Please help me remember. Shit. I had no idea he got so famous.
Thomas Wright
i swore i wouldn't /brostep/ but serum downsample suddenly took me away from neuro :((((((
>guides can't find the video that inspired this but pic related is how i organize my sample library every section has its own subcategories etc, i try to continuously delete things i don't use but keep a larger backup of every pack i've ever downloaded and an all encompassing version of my consolidated library (so includes anything i deleted that might be missing from a project or whatever if i fuck up)
the "Temp" folder is for organizing sample libraries i download and picking out the ones that are actually good to eventually move into my more permanent library, as well as keep more solid sample packs in rotation
there are miscellaneous folders that i also include text documents so i can make notes for myself, whatever that may be.... an origination or a reminder of what something is, if it's okay to delete etc lol
i'm guessing this isn't ableton specific but make sure your "default" set when you open your daw includes vsts and sends you setup for every song.... if you make a certain sound over and over or an effect etc just save it as a preset, come up with a system of organizing everything you frequently use and know how to access it quickly.
I’m on Mac but I still suggest you take a look at Little Snitch or Lulu firewall. You should be able to find something equivalent that stops all outgoing internet connections unless you allow it.
Luke Peterson
Good stuff. I like the idea of keeping a slimmed down sample library of just the quality samples with a backup hoard of everything ever downloaded. I'll be stealing this idea ;) I'm not sure if I'm going to follow through and make an actual database or not. I know there is software out there for this that automatically tags shit for you, but I feel like making my database from scratch will mean that I'm tossing out the trash before it gets a chance to clutter things up.
Gabriel Taylor
anybody else want to kill themselves
Gabriel Wood
nope
Parker Davis
For me it's Limonène. youtube.com/watch?v=4SNopVbFwYQ Is it possible for a big white american guy to sound like a little Japanese girl? Last thread there was talk about melodyne and formants and all that. You can't make music and watch anime when you're dead, dude.
me. I have schizoaffective disorder -- bipolar type.
Isaiah Rivera
They're not winners. Upon further assessment and rumination, essentially what I'm suggesting is to sound like MGMT. Also, groups like Jamaica or Franz Ferdinand. There are no new sounds that progress from Cross. The natural progression was dubstep and electro - and those genres took it to its natural conclusion. I heard another guy completely copy Justice's sound (it was pretty good) and he had a few thousand listens for every song. It's pretty played out.
Electronic synthesizer music might stagnate, and live rock/pop/disco bands might make a comeback.
What I'm basing this on is the idea that during times of peace, people listen to electronic and standard pop when they're partying. During times of war, they listen to heavier rock.
I just got approved for disability for my bipolar so I'll be getting $5,000 in backpay.
I don't think the kick fits too well, and i'm not a fan of the lead that comes in at 1:24. I like all the other sounds though, pretty cool.
Carter Phillips
how old are you?
Oliver Parker
Twenty-seven
Benjamin White
Cracked plugins: should I bother? I'm not very tech savvy and I can't figure out how to install the 4gb waves10 bundle I downloaded. Help me...?
Benjamin Green
Anyway, I'm going to get some more coffee and think more about the natural evolution of electronic music. Maybe we can all start a new sound that takes over the radio.
With that initial $5,000 I might buy some analog gear. I could always go back to constructing Disco Jackboot if musical things get stale. I want to eventually make a Nietzschean WW2 stealth video game.
However, the things that made Cross stand out were the creative uses of production tricks that no one else was using at the time. Those are played out now.
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Look at, say, the Human After All Remixes album. Especially the SebastiAn remix. That's EDM in the large sense - but it's exciting, because it's trying something new and pushing the boundaries a bit. They know what's going on with all of that. What they're objecting to is the most recent wave of EDM, the one that made it really big. In many ways they (and Justice) set the stage for that in 2007 with their Alive tour - then, when dubstep blew up in 2010, everything kind of came together. All of a sudden electronic music was super popular, yes, but it was all also really similar - obsessed with "the drop," composed with a very narrow range of effects. And this idea is what RAM is trying to take issue with - it's very similar to what Justice did with AVD - they basically said "wait a minute, this stuff isn't as exciting as it was when we started it."
>it's very similar to what Justice did with AVD - they basically said "wait a minute, this stuff isn't as exciting as it was when we started it."
idk how the fuck i forgot about this but i actually already kinda sorta did the microsampling rock thing you were talking about.... sent it to you on discord, maybe you didn't listen or didn't know what you were hearing. i call it "sample rock" because at its core it's basically all rock structure and... technically the same instruments, but it was a chopped metal song played to be more... punkish i guess? i had deftones in mind
Blake Lewis
Bro stop being an autist and lets make some music.
clyp.it/umuu31xo experimental liquid drum and bass wip throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks so I can finish this song
Brayden Ward
most of them sucks and good luck fitting them into a track if you don't know what are you doing
Christian Moore
anything you synthesize will be poop.
John Harris
>fitting them into a track You make the track around the presets.
Robert Hernandez
that seems harder than making your own sounds
William Perry
Yeah, I remember it. But I don't really mean microsampling a guitar. Using guitar samples so much, you might as well use a real guitar and make a rock album. I mean using synthesizers like they're guitars similar to how they're used on AVD in Civilization or New Lands. But that album's music wasn't popular so going anywhere near it is probably not a good idea.
The thing I think we all want to avoid is being lumped in with one particular genre or subgenre. I'm specifically talking about electronic music with a sound that has pop crossover potential, and not EDM shit like Chainsmokers, Guetta or Marshmello.
If Justice hadn't had DANCE, that album most likely wouldn't have gone Gold and Justice would have remained only known in Europe. That song still fits well with the record, but it's a lot different than the rest of the album. They're the biggest act to come out of that era, so the others were even less successful. Distorted highly-compressed stuff is underground. Those tracks can be filled out on an album after you have a couple of good, catchy voiced singles.
The secret to successful electronic music is pop crossover appeal, but refusing to sell out is the main hurdle. Justice and Daft Punk had to completely distance themselves from brostep and EDM by making what they did. They made music that was more "live".
>Distorted highly-compressed stuff is underground. eXcuSeMe but what?
.... also it's sampling the song as a whole+reresampling for effects, and then just drums
haven't listened to those songs, but i've done "synthgaze" as well, sounds exactly what you'd imagine
Connor Nelson
HUGE vibes from this! It always feels like its about to drop into something hard and is building constantly. Personally I would try a dubstepish drop with sparse percussion and prominent kick+snare and longer chops within it for the groove.
Michael White
NO NO NO NO I GAVE UP DUBSTEP FOR GOOD! I'm on /idm/ ambient now :(
...(thanks bb)
Luke Diaz
I made another ambient track as a joke but I forgot instaudio is down now I can't bait you assholes into listening to it :(
Jaxon Carter
Can you recommend me some MIDI step sequencers plugin? I tried the one that comes with ableton, but none satisfies me.
Angel Butler
Nuuhhhhhh come back pls. Incel Dance Music is not the big bucks.
Grayson Richardson
Yeah, the more I begin to think about it, the more I see going for a stripped-down approach as the best way forward. People have taken sampling to its natural conclusion. You can sample, as someone suggested, a fart, and time warp it to sound like something else entirely. Sampling is passe. The future for music is organic.
since you guys seems to talk a lot about french house and justice these days, can you explain to me how the over compression works?
Caleb Hernandez
No, it’s literally 1 person.
Sebastian Reyes
I changed my mind.
Use Nightshine VST and fiddle with it till it's as loud as you can get it without clipping. Most of these guys like trap, and they get offended when I post about Justice.
I'm trying to move away from it.
Isaac Davis
why use that vst and not ableton stock compressor?
Jack Campbell
>fiddle with it till it's as loud as you can get it without clipping. wow, compression god
it's not about trap vs justice, you're just over explaining basic shit that they did acting like you're deciphering the gospel and being a faggot in general
Aaron Thomas
what do you think of Justice influenced synthwave acts like GosT? I've been trying to make music in that vibe, but just like when I try to make metal, I hate my riffs and just can't do it.
Henry Reed
nightshine is the emulation of a meme alesis compressor that was used by daft punk and other french fags and supposedly gives a distinct sidechain effect when you push it really hard speaking of wich are there any compressors that are better at sidechain than the others? it feels like I'm losing something in the stereo field with the ones from ableton, should I switch to a m/s one?
Jaxon Baker
Nightshine is based on the Alesis 3630 and creates a pumping effect when you EQ boost the low end of the kick at 55hz. It also adds a little bit of saturation and colors it a bit differently than Ableton's stock compressor.
You'll live.
I've not heard of them. Checking them out now. I'm listening now. I don't think this is much my style of music. I can kind of hear the Justice influence, but it's like they took Justice too far. They're missing good melodies. Again, I'm trying to distance myself from the Justice sound. I listened to a little bit of Possessor and now listening to Behemoth.
It's like all of this style of music sounds the same to me now, but it's missing the Justice flair. I'm thinking in a completely different direction now.
Michael Torres
interesting, too bad it's just in 32bit
btw, are there better alternative to jBridge yet? I can't use it, it always crashes ableton
Possessor is very different from the rest of the discography, it's way more metal sounding. You might like Behemoth better. Non paradisi is great too, but it's more movie soundtrack oriented.
Anthony Brooks
bluecat and ddmf have vst host plugins that can load 32 bit vsts and bypass the mess that is bridging
Joseph Adams
So I have these ideas now:
1. Sounding like Cross is out of the question because that album was a product of 2007 when electro and dubstep were in their infancy. It was new and revolutionary, but not anymore. The future is what needs to be looked toward. Not synthwave or disco. No slap bass. No disco strings.
2. The music must have pop singles that have radio potential.
3. Sampling large blocks of music is out because it's passe as well as an endless pursuit. When I get into sampling, I wonder if I can sample anything and everything. That's just a real waste of time.
4. Microsampling albums is out because there are plenty of free drum hits, bass samples and all sorts of stuff out there on the internet (Justice made Cross when this stuff wasn't as readily available). Again, avoiding combing over albums and wasting time.
5. Use of digital-sounding synths is out in order to separate from the cold digital synth crowd, so analog-emulating VSTs are in to add just that little bit of something - especially unique sounding synth emulations.
6. The album must have a timeless warm quality that you find in Toto songs or Justice's Woman album, so this means finding the best reverb plugin available.
>disco strings. how do you make these btw? (just curious) is it just 32th arpeggios?
Joshua Sanders
Online activation was never a problem. Forget about the notion that it makes cracking impossible, because it's (relatively) pretty easy to bypass in most cases. The really difficult thing to crack is the dongle and a couple of other protection systems for high-ticket items and whatnot. Almost all popular programs are easily cracked by installing the program included in the release, following the instructions, and if you really want to go the extra mile, by blocking it in your firewall. That's it.
Elijah Wood
I made this five years ago when I was worse at production, but I might have been onto something with the rhythm. What do you guys think?
I might be onto something. I might be putting together the sound of Yea Forumshouse by whittling away all the fluff - a new thing to achieve. A new template.
Probably.
You sample them from Boney M's "Sunny". kek.
Easton Mitchell
strangely enough, jbridge is working today (maybe because I installed rewire before?), so I'm able to try your compressor and many other 32bit shit I had on my computer. feels good.
>Boney M but how did they do it in the first place? was that band popular in the US? it was huge here in France (but frenchfags usually have shit taste in music so...)
Grayson Anderson
>I might be onto something you are absolutely not onto something
you are examining and excluding ingredients rather than the actual style. techniques do not necessarily determine the effect you are still being regressive and expecting to make something "new"
you need to stop worrying about that bullshit and focus on actually creating the sound rather than how you arrive at it, so far as everybody can tell you're just talking a bunch of bullshit and not actually taking steps to accomplishing your goal- you're procrastinating by overthinking and being a pussy basically
Jacob Ramirez
>your compressor but it's not mine, I'm testing ddmf metaplugin now and everything was working fine until i tabbed out of ableton and now I'm getting lost bridged connection so I'm kinda lost now I might try their dedicated brige sowftware I really wanted to use sq8l again
Kevin Adams
has anyone tried philips shp 9500? are they detailed enough for mixing or m40x does it better?
Josiah Myers
Who is the guy who copied Justice?
Have you heard jon hopkins
Ryder Scott
>but how did they do it in the first place? I'm guessing they recorded live strings.
I'm overwhelmed by the possibilities to be sure. If I go all in on creating an updated danceable Toto album using only synths and electronics, I'd better be damn sure I'm ready. Do you realize how complex that music is?
A friend gave me a flash drive with a bunch of music programs that includes Sound Forge Pro 13. Should I keep it? I already have Audacity for audio editing, and Ableton for a DAW. Would Sound Forge be of any utility?
Justice never had pop music as a direction in mind, they are huge fans of funk and disco and wanted to emulate that sound as authentically as possible despite limited technical prowess at the time (They are big, big Prince, Rick James and Michael Jackson fans).. and with an electronic edge and a punk rock image. They’ve turned down offers to remix Johnny Cash, work with Lupe Fiasco and a whole load of other pop stars I can’t disclose (they did however record material for Yeezus...)
You will never ever come close to sounding like them. Don’t take offense to it, the music is a product of their influences and experiences. Many have tried and not one have come close. AVD was them doing what they wanted, much like Woman.
Jayden Richardson
jesus christ, stop replying to justicefag seriously.
Luke Wilson
You probably entice Billie Eilish threads, actual music discussion scares you
Samuel Bennett
he was getting close actually but only as copycat
Luke Nguyen
google is censoring any piracy related queries now
Nolan Gomez
justice partout, police nulle part
Alexander Gomez
don't die
Parker Myers
that sounds sweet
Nathan Bennett
someone start a new one i dont wanna post my clyp here
Joshua Wilson
why
Bentley Lopez
threads dead
Connor Miller
What makes you think that a new one would be more active?
Aaron Lewis
its been dead for months lol
Grayson Scott
because its new
Easton Miller
I feel like such a failure, I've become completely demotivated and all my stuff sounds like shit
I have a bunch of song ideas that are promising but I alway get stuck at a brick wall a quarter of the way through. I just have no idea how the fuck to write a song past that point, let alone finish a song then once I hit the brick wall, whatever I try and add on to that point sounds completely different and out of touch with the rest of the song or I start fucking around with the synths and samples so it feels like I'm doing something, but without ever actually getting anything done
help me before I ride my motorcycle off a bridge
Leo Rodriguez
post something you're working on
Jaxon Wood
3.5 minute tunes or 7 minute long techno
Joseph Scott
clyp.it/vnu2rixm this has the intro trimmed because it sucks and I need to re-write it. It's just the beginning part of a song before a drop, anyway
At this point I've started trying to plan out the songs on paper instead of blindly shitting stuff into the daw so I can at least maybe have a goal to work towards. Like I said though I have no motivation anymore so I haven't been able to test if this will help/work or not
What do you mean? The music I listen to (and try to make) tends to be on the longer side
Josiah Cooper
That's easy, all you need to do is figure out a nice synth line that works over your main part. Then develop a whole calmer part based around that synth line seperately.
Your clyp + nice new synth line then + clyp and synth line together
or put the same effect you've got goin on the the drrrr stuff on a nice synth.
Oliver Roberts
Lmao what the fuck is this? Was he blackmailed into doing it or something?
I'm late to the party but i'd say 100% the Real Human Being song from the Drive soundtrack. Nice and easy synth line, easy beat, maybe 5 tracks total.
Aiden Gomez
Watch in the mix or seamlessr
Jack Hernandez
I wish I could just apprentice under a successful musician, just for a little bit, so I can see how a successful/professional musician makes a song maybe then I could finally finish something
Dunno about easy, but this might help (haven't watched it yet) and maybe the Deadmau5 Masterclass (they both use Ableton). Otherwise try to recreate pretty much any new wavey stuff from the 80s (New Order, Gary Numan, Kraftwerk, etc.) since drum machines, prominent synths, and sequencers were very popular then so it should be easier to mimic the sounds.
if you own razor products you can produce faster and better obviously
Christopher Smith
shit, trap/future bass is that easy to make huh what the fuck am I doing that I'm way overengineering and over thinking everything in my music
Dominic Torres
Overthinking and tinkering makes for shit music.
Gavin Carter
How do I stop? I think it's one of the number 1 things killing my music
Luke Reyes
Stop using a DAW
Elijah Richardson
>overthinking sure ill agree >tinkering depends what you are doing, it could lead to shit you've never done before
Ryan Bell
Give yourself like 10 mins to lay down a skeleton for a track.
You can do more depending on the genre.
Don't get me wrong, details are good, but you should be putting details in the context of your full track, not your 16 bar loops.
Mason Mitchell
sup guys
gonna be doing an experiment to try and prove to myself that you can make good shit with free plugins
im going to be using reaper question is does it have a built in sampler/how good is it? if not is there a better free alternative out there?
can you name some of your highest rated free plug-ins, i already have a few mostly the the free TAL stuff, dexed and synth 1
thanks
Eli Bennett
bump
David Campbell
bump
Isaac Cox
try LMMS
Oliver Martinez
bump
Angel Green
No, but not because its bad but because if you are new(ish) to making music you don't need any extra confusion from learning many programs. Arguably even if you are a veteran there's no reason to switch tools to something more niche unless you actually need the features.
Adam Johnson
I'm not new and I definitely don't it, but if it has some perk that I don't know about I'll gladly switch. I mean, it's just an audio editing program, it's not going to take me much to learn it.
Lucas James
no don't keep it.
my main question is though if you are using Ableton why do you bother with audacity still? Ableton does audio editing like 100x better.
Ryan Edwards
>built in sampler
Yeah, the ReaSamplOmatic5000
Advance warning, the guy, in the video, overuses commas, when he speaks:
has a bunch of useful reaper scripts (including effects)
voxengo has a bunch of good free shit
melda productions also have a big free bundle of useful things
reaper isn't technically free btw
Julian Thomas
>my main question is though if you are using Ableton why do you bother with audacity still? Ableton does audio editing like 100x better. I'm still on 9 so I can't see the individual samples like you could in older versions and in 10. Not sure if you can in Ableton 10, but on Audacity you can also edit the samples themselves, which is useful for surgical edits and for things like cutting samples for wavetables and whatnot, where you need to be sample-accurate. Audacity also can read video files (if you load the ffmpeg component) and export in many different formats. I most often use it for quick edits when Ableton isn't open so I can get to work in a second instead of having to wait for Ableton to start up.
Josiah Barnes
to be fair i already own reaper, (i bought it on a whim and never installed it, cause i still had like 5 months of my pro tools licence left and didn't wanna pay again)
other than that i was gonna try LMMS but i thought meh i own reaper so i may as well.
thanks for the suggestions appreciate ya
Jayden Martinez
>I'm still on 9 so I can't see the individual samples you what now. 8/9/10 all have samples editable in the clip editor. unless that's not wht you're talking about
Thomas Cook
what this guy said. im also confused
Cameron Rodriguez
this
>t.makingit
Anthony Cook
I'm talking about tha samples that digital audio is made of. As in "sample rate". I think it was 9.5 that introduced smooth waveforms, but before that the waveforms were stepped and you could see where each sample was. In 10 they reintroduced this by showing the dots for each sample when you zoom in.
ah scene. i can't actually remember 9 doing that but i was super lazy about updating it so i might not even have bothered with 9.5+
btw, ableton can actually handle videos. it's an awful experience, but it's possible.
Xavier Long
>it's an awful experience Yeah I heard about that. I'm pretty sure you also have to install Quicktime or some shit, so no thanks, I'll keep using Audacity.
Colton Anderson
How I write music, and how I would do that, are incompatible at the moment
I very rarely if ever plan out a song (which is another thing I think kills my music) it's more I'll come up with a neat synth or funky melody, make a 16 bar ditty, and that'll be it. Then I'm stuck.
Is there something, some technique, that will help me actually make a full song skeleton or something from a small thing like that?
Wyatt Torres
yup, i think the easiest way to get it working is by installing one of those gigantic codec packs. it's really, really, bad though.
no frames based timeline, the video doesn't play half the time after scrubbing through the timeline, it'll never load a video in the first time you drag it in - only the second time, no real export settings - it's truly terrible
Nicholas Anderson
Study form and transitions
Jose Brown
Lmao maybe they'll improve when Live 15 comes out.
Elijah Jenkins
just as soon as they've upgraded their flagship sampler to not be worse than their free simpler.
the absolute state of ableton these days i swear.
Nicholas Moore
Alright, If that's what I have to do. I always thought form, as in "ABAC", "AABAC", or whatever, was how you made a song really boring and formulaic but I guess at this point for me, even that would be preferable to "100 16 bar songs rotting on the hard drive"
Benjamin Myers
The easiest way, and what like 80% of EDM producers do, is just take your 16 bars and strip away most of the elements and add them back in over time. Once you have all of them remove some in a different order, then add the removed ones back in again in yet a different order. Congratulations you're club ready.
Austin Martinez
I wish I could figure out what kind of music I want to make. There has to be something new and original that can be done. Popular music has been combined with EDM and the general pop sound has been confined to a small area. What's popular is what is immediately listenable. Is it going to be synthesizers from here on out? New sounds are so limited.
Even a stripped-down approach with synthesizers is pretty dull. Guitars are dull too. Where the fuck is music heading? What's the new sound?
Making your music sound warm is what's needed to stand out, surely. But after that, nothing else makes any sense. All music sounds the same using synthesizers and guitars.
Fuggggggg
And looking to the past, like my idea to make a modern Toto album, goes against what I said about looking to the future for music. And I might as well record real guitar to make that album.
hey man, have you ever heard of justice? maybe you should try making music like them.
Jack Hernandez
O U T F U C K I N G S K I L L E D
Kevin Price
nothing thats actually really good i almost want to hear a country synth style song now
Luke Cook
S A M E F U C K I N G F A G G E D
Asher Martinez
Nah, the future is gonna be a return to harsh, cold, digital sounds of the 90s.
Austin Cox
One day we need to have a producer thread where someone provides stem tracks and we all mix side by side. It'd be fun, AND it'd weed out all the talentless FL retards that think beep booping on a computer is "producing"
Parker Myers
I think I see the problem here, evidenced by "guitars are dull", you're obsessed with timbre and not emotional content. You think "the next big sound" is the goal but really it should be "the next big story".
Thomas White
I already stocked up on VA synths to sell to stupid redditors trying to get rid of their oh so cool toy analogs in order to chase the next big consumer trend
nigga why are you trying to learn sound design when you probably can't even make a coherent melody?
make beats, use presets at first, have fun and shit nigga
Michael Moore
If you can play guitar like Johnny Marr, yeah I guess.
Lots of decent acoustic drum kits around that would work, Kontakt libraries for bass guitar that are reasonably believable if programmed well, but acoustic and electric guitar is much harder, especially if you need a very specific and individual sound.
Why would I specify "in a DAW" if I could play an instrument
Jayden Torres
Your attitude and IQ won't work out for making music
Leo Hill
yea best you can do strictly ITB is some kind of C level knock off that is good enough for corporate background music but definitely not album level
Daniel Long
nice deflection retard
corporate background music could be cool
Jace Brooks
>complaining about people casually using 'bad words' >on Yea Forums
Lucas Rodriguez
>complaining about a 2-day old post >on Yea Forums
Brandon Murphy
black people use Yea Forums
Kayden Ramirez
with stolen computers
Jacob Flores
>corporate background music could be cool Just recycle it into vaporwave.
Carson Russell
Niggerdom deserves calling out no matter how far in the past.
Alexander Nguyen
black people is more racist than saying niggers, imagine calling asians yellow people I'm pretty sure they would get pissed
Nolan Davis
Fuck off racist asshole, this is a pro-nigger general.
Isaac Anderson
I do know one thing. When I get my disability bux I'm going to buy a midi controller. I was thinking about buying some analog gear, but I'd like to do everything ITB using hardware emulation VSTs for my first project.
Sampling is out. It's overdone and passe. I'll find some singers. Completely organic is the way. Also, if I'm honest, Justice Cross music is passe with the likes of dubstep and electro filling their place.
Music like this is not my style. I like high energy bangers and catchy pop
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