Why does the rap genre get away with so much?

alright now go tell this to a black man face

Absolutely based and fucking redpilled and correct

Implying op’s ever had an interaction with soneone outside his race

In rock you can steal entire discographies worth of material and it's okay so long as you're able to bang it out somewhat on an instrument

This is true. Jazz is a great example of intelectual and complex black music. Rap is lazy formulaic shit for the most part

well he has all this negative feelings towards blacks i advice all white men with a problem with blacks to go up to their face and tell them how they feel

Just did. He laughed and said “you aight white boy” then asked me if I liked Miles Davis

Have sex

dilate yourselves with a 9mm subhumans

>somethign rappers still can't even do

that would more than prepare me to take your dick, user

at least they can play instruments/sing/have any talent nigger

>muh “black men destroy white sissies” meme
european men have been conquering nigger faggots for generations. we even enslaved niggers for centuries

alright now go tell that to a black man face

you’re saying i’m as or more hung than a 9mm sidearm you retarded tranny. still wouldn’t be big enough though even for your aids ridden wound

I like how no one can prove OP wrong.
This is coming from a rap fan btw.

alright now go tell that a black man face

Based and self aware nigger music fan.

no you virgin nerd jeesus i was saying tht your dick is 9mm diameter max

Because no one really cares about originality or authenticity in popular music as long as it sounds cool and that's fine

i wouldnt boggle it down to lazy but madlib slaps nigga so why should i give a fuck

yeah retard even though if you knew anything about anytning you’d realize I was referring to a 9mm handgun. and even if my dick was that small it would still be a lot bigger than your inverted castration wound, kek. there’s no way you can win here.

>kek. there's no way you can win here

ok twelve year old

>no way you can win here
despite the fact that you are already a loser for knowing even this much about guns (probably from videogames, right?) I can win even more. behold: i am in fact not a tranny, but a very well hung man. your own mother confided in me the fact that my penis is roughly two or three times yours in length as well as girth.

>i am in fact not a tranny, but a very well hung man
Prove it, faggot.

When it's hot it's hot. It's not right now.

not replying to you again, sissy cumbrain retard. dilate as much as you want, no one wants your putrid rotting castration wound. kill yourself

Yes but the same could be said of playing a simple cover song with 3 chords on guitar. 100 million people on this gay earth can do it, """only""" maybe 1 million can make it sound really good, but no one gives a shit about any of them. Rappers and hip hop producers are valued for cultural reasons, not musical, even if they do have some semblance of musical talent. That is so self evident it's not really up for debate.

yeah show us you homo

I'm not showing you my dick, bro. text her and ask

i fucking died!1 thank you again based user

I’ve yet to see people like OP be able to reproduce Hip Hop when asked to. Even though they claim it to be the laziest genre.
They will always pull up any excuse because they know it’s bullshit. And they’re just seething.

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there was that one thread a few months ago where a guy attempted to do just that and all he could make was generic DAW wank

they can't make a good rap record even if they tried they just don't like blacks i wish they would state that in the beginning

The best part about it is that you don’t even need to be some wizard at the computer to make decent Hip Hop. You just need a big musical pallet and a creative mind. Madlib is a good example of this. Simple yet effective. But these people are so devoid of any creativity and interest in music. They can’t even present a decent unique loop.

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they can't make a good rap record even if they tried they just don't like blacks i wish they would state that in the beginning

>This is America
>Most revered example of music as cultural critique in all of modern music
>Exposes the plight of black America under the relentless onslaught of systematic racism and violence from wh*te people
>By a black millionaire who lives a life of opulence 99% of white people couldn't even dream of
>Nonsensical lyrics, message is almost completely incomprehensible
>Bulk of the song was stolen from some poor unknown black dude who never got credited even after it was exposed
>Most of the original elements of the song were composed by a white Swedish guy

Great irony of the whole thing is that it is probably the best metaphor for current year America you could ever hope for in a song, but for the opposite reasons they intended.

a talentless worthless hack like jumex would literally not exist in any other genre besides rap.

even the most generic bland pop or rock out there evokes more emotion and has more talent than this absolute zilch.

you have no argument. admit it. rap is the most lazy genre in existence. it is a disgrace to music and art in general.

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personally i'm really into blues music; stuff like robert johnson

You have to pay money to sample music nowadays, retard. It's been like that since the early '90's.

there's some okay rap music
but most of it is garbage, yeah

Harsh noise wall takes less effort than selecting a sample and using it well.

>100 million people on this gay earth can do it, """only""" maybe 1 million can make it sound really good, but no one gives a shit about any of them
If yo uknew a single thing about music you'd know that tons of artists have had huge hits by covering songs made by others. Your "1 million" doesn't exist.

I've done exactly this and everyone agreed it was pretty good and better than the reference material. Took me about 2 hours, who the fuck is going to spend 2 hours just proving a pretty obvious point to some strangers on the internet? Especially considering you could just say "oh this is shit you proved me right" at the end of it no matter how it turns out, and there's no objective way to prove otherwise.

Just because someone is unwilling to do something doesn't mean they are unable.

post it

I've heard countless people at open mic nights or even just random parties do great versions of basic songs that were better than the original, I've even done it myself and people were convinced I should be famous because they don't understand the music industry and the fact that what I did was good, but not really in any way unique. A million is conservative, there are probably more than that.

I don't have it anymore I never bothered to keep a copy. It was years ago before trap became big, if I had more time now I'd do another because I'm curious to try a trap style song, but I'm busy working on something else.

>I've even done it myself and people were convinced I should be famous

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Kek

Normies say shit like this all the time if you show even a moderate amount of """talent""". I already said what I did wasn't special, that was their words not mine and I've heard it being said to plenty of other people.

>I've done exactly this and everyone agreed it was pretty good and better than the reference material.
What’s the point of even bringing this up if you can’t even prove it you gigantic retard.

I love rap, but jesus christ, this era is the worst thing to have ever happened to it. Wonder if it can recover or if it's done for good after the mainstream is done squeezing it.

I don't even care, the '80's, '90's and early '00's had so much good rap that I'm still finding new albums I like. I've no need to be part of any good ongoing music movement, having a wealth of music to discover years later is fine enough for me.

source on this info i kinda liked this is america despite not really being a hip-hop fan

That makes sense, as Gambino and his music aren't hip hop.

You can't prove I haven't done it, or that other people haven't done it. What's the point in ever saying anything on the internet, you can easily just say anyone is lying about anything.

You can't prove you've done it, but
I can prove that at least one person has tried and failed hilariously.... it's just ... somewhere.... in the archive...

>you can easily just say anyone is lying about anything
Yeah, we say that for the exact rason you just outlined. What kind of idiot goes around believing shit people claim on the internet?

Criticizing black people in any way automatically makes you a racist in many people's mind.

Just Google 'this is America vs American Pharoh' or something. As for the Swedish guy, I forget his name but he's been a songwriter and producer on everything Glover has done musically as far as I know, you can verify that much with Wikipedia.

Not like it's any different to other manufactured pop music, but that's exactly what it is everyone's always known manufactured pop music is soulless garbage completely devoid of creativity.

Why does it have to be this way? The amount of unironic kneejerk replies itt really makes me believe it.

that's not true. you are taking the statement out of context, but it exists in context. Yea Forums is a place where people make the same racist arguments against rap music every day. it's not wrong to assume OP is racist here.

Then what’s the point of even bringing it up when you know people are just going to question your shit. This whole argument is literally about PROOF. Yet your only proof is your own words.

That still doesn't negate the fact that you can't criticize anything in black culture without a shitstorm.

Is this thread what a shitstorm looks like to an underage Plebbitor?

I'm not op, but I ALSO don't like blacks

Not talking about this thread but online in general.

>stealing
Sampling is actually my favorite thing about hip hop (and the only thing about the genre I care for, really). Taking a classic song and reinterpreting it and reusing it in a creative way takes a certain kind of talent, and I'm willing to bet 99% of the people who dismiss it couldn't come up with a good beat. That being said, I almost always prefer the original song being sampled to the hip hop song.

sampling is my least favorite thing about hip-hop
sampling excessively just feels bad and lazy
if you sample a little bit and use it creatively, it's alright, but if your whole song literally is just you singing over something you sampled, it's probably going to be shit
i know personally that if i was a musical artist, i would be kinda pissed if someone sampled my work in that manner

>"No one can do this"
>I can do it, I've done it before

What's the point either way? Where's the proof of the original claim? This is the internet buddy.

the kind of lazy sampling you describe doesnt exist, or at least isnt appreciated by any broad audience. sampling strawman
maybe if you were a musical artist you'd understand it better

>”No one can do this"
Reading comprehension much?

>i know personally that if i was a musical artist
>if I w

no, i was counting in that even if you remixed the sample
don't sample people to make up the base and meat of your song
make your own original thing from scratch

>if I w

You’re so naive. Did you come from Yea Forums or something?

i mean, i'm looking into becoming a musical artist and i've fucked around with writing songs and stuff
i am not currently one though, yeah

I'm not racist and I think the OP is 100% correct and part of the reason is a cultural over-sensitivity and fetishization of black people and black culture.

My all time favourite musician is black and I like a lot of old funk, soul, rnb etc, even some rap and hip hop. All things considered black people have contributed at least as much to modern music as white people, I'd say music is their main cultural contribution to Western society.

But 90% of rap and hip hop is unadulterated garbage and represents the exact things normie women are constantly claiming to be fighting against. Materialism, objectification of women, egotism and violence are the typical themes of rap music, yet those same women almost all seem to love that music, or at very least will never criticize it from a cultural standpoint.

i have never looked at Yea Forums and you just saying that i'm naive isn't making an argument against my statement
explain why i'm apparently so naive

>i mean, i'm looking into becoming a musical artist
What’s stopping you.

outside his basement*

have you listened to all rap music to say 90% is garbage? no, you're making assumptions. you also seem to think "normal" women all act a cetain way. you're clearly prejudiced and you probably just dont realize how racist you are

what's stopping me is that i'm not decent yet, but i'm practicing

black people have probably contributed more to modern music than white people honestly
the bulk of what white people have contributed is european classical music and rock music, the latter of which evolved from blues music created by black people

>explain why i'm apparently so naive
Because you missing the point when you say
>make your own original thing from scratch
Sampling isn’t about creating. It’s about recontextualizing.

This is what I mean. People just dance around the question and goes into different tangents.

yeah i was just fuckin with you but this guy has a point

yes, and i'm saying that using re-contextualized music instead of your own original music as the meat and potatoes of your work is generally bad (in my opinion)
sampling in moderation and in creative ways is often good though
one of my main issues with hip-hop is its over-reliance on sampling

>rap is the only genre that gets away with sampli-
youtube.com/watch?v=nyTQ-j9Mm1c

>using re-contextualized music instead of your own original music as the meat and potatoes of your work is generally bad
That’s stupid. You’re basically putting a bad label on good music just because it’s made in a way you don’t like. And just it’s “original” doesn’t make it inherently better.

that wasn't me disagreeing with you
i also generally don't like most hip-hop, but i have several black musicians i am huge fans of (notably Robert Johnson, Jimi Hendrix, and Lead Belly)

*And just because it’s “original” doesn’t make it inherently better

if its so easy why dont you do it

i don't like it because it feels lazy and even potentially disrespectful to me

OK I will and i'll be the best raper ever

this is actually how jay z started

>it feels lazy
Not only is this shitting on talented artist like Dilla, Public Enemy, DJ Shadow, etc. But somehow lazy music is a bad thing now. As if original music can’t be lazy.
>and even potentially disrespectful to me
Lol

I like rap music, that being said, it’s degenerate and harmful to the youth.

Look at the amount of white people doing rap and tell me its still a black man's game.
But yes, I also don't like black people

yeah but it sounds better

contrary to popular belief, fingering a few guitar chords and strumming on rhythm is much more straightforward and not as taxing as composing a beat with a sampler

Stealing implies you go to their house and actually steal their tapes and hard drives
Copying and sampling does not erase the work on the author's end, but it's stealing if you make any effort in denying them access to their work
Sampling is an ethical act of creative expression. Whether or not the music is good is another question
And stop using the term "stealing" as a fake perjorative for what is actually copyright infringement

Autotune is cancer. It's like people can just open their macbook and expect to magically have a singing voice pop out.

All they ever talk about is money, guns, knives, drugs and sex. Baffled that it doesn't take that much to win. And so much knife/gun crime happens as it is.

In any genre you can copy the top 10 and be as shallow as possible.

I beg to differ, the most lazy genre is big room by all accords, you don't even need to have any real instruments or voice recording to begin with, just a monotonous rhythm and repetitive sounds

no because those are real instruments. it can take years to master the guitar or piano. it could take you a couple days to learn to sample.

>those are real instruments
>real instruments
Acoustic instruments you non musician.

it could take you a couple days to learn to play a rock song on the guitar (realistically, a few hours of solid practice). how long will it take you to select your samples, do the sampling and sequence it into a beat?

Rap? You mean CRAP!

Fuck black people

except good people like herbie hancock or wayne shorter

doesn't matter they are still instruments. rap producers sample because they can't play any instruments or compose.

I play a couple instruments myself, but I prefer to make mostly sample-based music because it’s the genre I want to make and I appreciate the artistic value in recontextualizing audio. I think there’s a lot more to be explored in that range than in the purview of contemporary acoustic music

If you can’t even bother to use the right terms. Your opinions are basically worthless.

His opinions are worthless because they have no value, it really has nothing to do with the way he presents them. Be fair, user.

Well, it is the icing on the cake indeed.

There are typical opinions which represent the cultural zeitgeist of the time, you'd have to be pretty low functioning not to realise that. I've listened to thousands of different hip hop and rap artists from mainstream to true underground gangsta shit to soundcloud memerap and so on, I have a pretty representative sample to base my opinions on. Fuck niggers. There, now it's pointless to call me racist so maybe you could try to address the actual point of the discussion.

Well yes but blues came about from guitar and the white traditions of how to play it being adapted by black people who reformed it into their own style. Then it was re-reformed into rock and heavy metal. It's pointless to attribute creative responsibility in these kind of things in my opinion, but indeed black people have had a strong influence.

Yes it's easier to try and find some excuse to invalidate someone's opinion than it is to address their points.

i'm not saying ALL rap is bad
public enemy is actually an artist i've been planning to check out

My assertion:
>You don’t like it because you are racist and hate black people
The facts:
>You think it’s bad
>You are racist and hate black people
Now what conclusions can we draw? Careful, because we don’t want to make any assumptions here, folks

>i'm not saying ALL rap is bad
Well, Sampling is a huge thing for late 80’s and 90’s Hip Hop. And since you’re not a sampling guy. You’re basically ruling out those eras.
Also please check Public Enemy. They make shit that’s beyond Hip Hop.

me not liking sampling doesn't mean i'll completely write off the music
i may still enjoy it despite the heavy reliance on sampling
i will check out public enemy but i have some other artists i'm probably going to check out first

You know you're not on reddit right? Nobody here is impressed by virtue signalling bullshit.

Your assertion is blatantly wrong because I like a lot of other music made by black people, including genres almost exclusive to black people, so obviously their race has no effect on my tastes. I already made that clear, but you are a retard so you chose to ignore that.

I just remembered that the first reply on this thread was me and i was in fact shitposting to invoke this very argument, so I’m gonna quit now. Hope everyone had fun

you can do all the same in pop music

But yeah, you're not wrong. Rap is immune from criticism because the (((industry))) has agendas to push

ok boomer

ok zoomer

Ah, he was only pretending to be stupid. How foolish of me.

>no arguments

Yes

>black people cant be criticized because it will always be about race
>go tell that critique to a black mans face and see what happens haha see you wrong
Imagine being this retarded

I really think rap has like 15 years left in it max

Back in highschool I thought the same things about rap. I hated how all my friends were getting into it. Like seriously anybody could make this shit. I know I could, and do it without any gay ass sampling.

clyp.it/4cbbytb5o

here's the song I made to prove rap is easy. I lowered my voice to sound black hoping I could fool my friends into thinking it was a real song and embarrass them. Haha. I learned a valuable lesson that week.

This desu. It's not just a problem in rap. It's also youth culture. Pop and rock in the past and present have had the same shallow fixations.

Thanks for proving OP's point

>Swedish guy
Ludwig Göransson?

The cope ITT is fucking hilarious, you're mad because the OP made some real points, aren't you? Rap is such a fucking creatively bankrupt cesspool of the worst kind of degenerates

If it's so easy why don't you do it? Go make a beat like madlib, easy money and fame.

Son, strangers on the internet don't care about your retarded opinions anymore than the people around you do.

I'm not even sure I dare to listen. Will I die from second-hand embarrassment?

Rap had 15 years left in it 30 years ago.

>it could take you a couple days to learn to sample.
Show us. We'll all be here the day after tomorrow.

die no one cares

>if you can't do it, you can't critique it

...

My "I like hip hop" phase started when I was 14 and lasted about a month.

Blah blah blah we get it you hate blacks move along user.

If your AOTY is ever a rap album, kys

It was funny as fuck

btw, he still didn't Rap on his trashy ass beats. LOL

rbt.asia/mu/thread/85406167/

If you can’t prove your own point. You should just fuck off.
How about that instead? Retard.

Rock, like Jazz (Albeit to a slightly lesser extent) is a biracial product. In takes as much from white country, folk, and pop music as it does black jazz and blues.

After all, how many early rockers were dyed-in-the-wool white trash types playing electrified, poppier country? And how many of those who followed in the ‘60s larped as country boys?

People ITT can't actually defend rap or construe any valid counterpoints of OP's critique. Rather they operate under the implicit assumption rap is integral if not synonymous to black identity, therefore any criticism levied at rap is also one towards black people

Rap, in general, is garbage for all the reasons OP laid out and more. It's because of race identitarians and reletavist thinking that holds pop music back from being any good

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This is the best varg picture on the internet: fact.

>rap is boring
>OH YEAH? I BET YOU CAN'T DO BETTER
>fuck off, I don't feel like spending time copying a genre I dislike to win an internet argument
>YOU CAN'T PROVE YOUR POINT YOU LOSE
Fact: hair metal is superior to rap. You can only disprove my point by creating a hair metal song and then a better rap.

>[thing] is easy and takes no effort
>you do it then
>NO TOO MUCH EFFORT
Only retards with no skills whatsoever are dumb enough to think that things they haven't even tried are easy. But in a way, they're right: doing anything badly is easy. Make a hiphop beat with samples? Easy as fuck. Making a good one? Not in a million years, shitbird.

There is no genre of music you consider lazy and boring?

But blacks are completely able to make great music

Someone starting from scratch can make a passable rap song a lot easier than a passable song in almost any other genre.

sampling is just taking inspiration from other people’s work.
you would understand this if you had a single creative bone in your body.

also everything has already been done. every melody, every harmony, every chord progression, literally every single one has been done. so modern music is just ripping off its predecessors anyway.
which is coincidentally why glitch and IDM-esque stuff is the only semi-original music left.

this 1 hundo p

In a way rap is not even a "musical" genre, it's just rap, i mean, it's a different art.

It's complete fucking garbage made for actual retards, just ignore it and it will eventually go away

this was playing at a bar I was at last night and I kept expecting a race war to break out. thank god I left before it happened.

Complains about rappers stealing other people's music
>Posts picture of varg vikernes
Kek

They don't have the balls so they're gonna passive aggressively take digs at rap saying shit like "it's not even really music" instead of "I just really don't like black people, they're arrogant"

at least we still have Denzel making good music with lyrics that sound like he’s actually trying.

Please say you are trolling

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>the only reason you can dislike a genre is racism
pc is a mental disorder

blessed image

I'm not even that pc bro, I'm literally telling you you're too much of basedboy pussies to admit you don't like black people.

thank god comethazine dropped album of the year

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I can't dislike black people, I have black friends and am colorblind. Doesn't change the fact that rap sounds like shit and takes less effort than any other genre

now why would I do that? ;)

[spoiler]and yes that was my genuine opinion; a true rarity[/spoiler]

>in rap, you can literally steal someone's else music and call it 'sampling' and people will call you a genius for stealing (madlib, j dilla, premier)
Bait but i'll bite. Anybody who blatantly samples someone elses shit without doing anything creative with it is going to get trashed unless they're doing some YouTube mashup shit. Maybe you have some cherrypicked examples up your sleeve but these producers are renowned because they do not do that in the least.
>in rap, you can literally use autotune to mask the fact that you don't know how to sing and no one will care
Autotune is an provides an aesthetic that people desire. The merit of a track does not depend on the technical skill of the artist because music is an artform and not a craft.
>in rap, you can get away with the most writing the shitty basic narcissistic degenerate lyrics and can still win awards and praise
Try listening to punk
>in rap you can be chase hits and be as shallow as possible
Any artist who chases hits regardless of their genre is a pop artist. Not all hip-hop artists are pop-artists.

>rap is the most lazy ""genre"" of music in existence and should be shunned. anybody who listens to rap should be bullied and mocked. rappers are not artists or musicians they are the scum of the earth.
You could pick out a few lazy pop songs from the 60's and 80's and then add punk to make the same argument against rock.

>>in rap, you can get away with the most writing the shitty basic narcissistic degenerate lyrics and can still win awards and praise
Adding to this, I completely agree that current rap lyrics are generally narcissistic, however I would not lay that at the feet of rap itself as a musical genre. "Narcissistic rap" is being elected to the top of the charts by the general public because the attitude it represents is a manifestation of the collective unconscious. It isn't rap music that is generating narcissism, it's the narcissism of the current generation that it speaks to.

Rap culture is narcissistic. Braggadocio and boasting is part of it. Infact, it's part of Black culture(The Dozens).

I hate niggers, but I agree that theres a double-standard here.

Listen to today's pop country and you can basically say the same exact thing OP says..

youtube.com/watch?v=aT9iox7jH1g

If OP were also a fan of vaporwave, he'd be even more hypocritical.

"sampling" in nig-hop is mostly trash since it's basically an ape-like "ayyo nigga that sound gud ima sample that shiet" response to some isolated number of bars within an actual composition, disregarding the context of the composition as a whole. Not to mention the fact that hip hop almost never does anything creative with the "loop" structure, unlike minimalist composers or even other popular music like autechre

>Even though they claim it to be the laziest genre.
>They will always pull up any excuse because they know it’s bullshit.

So we’re just going to pretend Ambient and Noise music don’t exist?

What impresses me the most is how a simple fl beat would impress most hip hop fans. I can make better beats on garage band

"Rap culture" does not exist as a homogeneity, and if it did the popular attitudes associated with mainstream rap would hardly have anything to do with it because rap is primarily about sound (beats and flow) and message is secondary. Because our culture is particularly narcissistic (especially liberal youth), the most popular rap music happens to be that which reflects the public attitude. That being said, the emergence of trap has hardly anything to do with narcissism and is mostly due to the fact that people can make music at home now and lyrical rap has become stale (just as prog dried out and opened the door for punk).
Also, black culture hardly exists. "Black history" in America is American history, and if you think black people in Compton share any sense of a shared cultural experience with Chinese black people or native Africans then you're not smart.

If you lived in the 70's, you might've said the essence of Rock Culture was machismo. Move onto the 90's and rock music still exists but without the overtly masculine overtone. If machismo were the fundamental essence of rock culture, 90's rock wouldn't be rock because the core principle of the genre/culture would've been lost. The same applies to rap. If you think rap culture is fundamentally associated with narcissism then you've only heard mainstream rap, and as I've said, the public is the fundamental source of narcissism, not the music.

I have little to say about any genre other than that I dislike the music of some genres more often that some other genres. I don't go around trying to create an identity around disliking everything within a category when I haven't even heard a 1/100th of what the genre has to offer.

the opposite of "i'm not racist but"

Don't worry, I think rap made by white people is garbage too. If I said I think Eminem is a fucking idiot, that would be socially acceptable because he's white. If I said the same thing about Kendrick Lamar I would get accused of being a racist. There's obviously a double standard here. White people aren't allowed to dislike rappers because it's seen as an attack on black culture. That's bullshit, though.

Tupac was a good poet, but a musician he was not.

>"Rap culture" does not exist as a homogeneity
Ok, but it doesn't mean that we can't conceive an abstract Rap culture

>and if it did the popular attitudes associated with mainstream rap would hardly have anything to do with it because rap is primarily about sound (beats and flow) and message is secondary. Because our culture is particularly narcissistic (especially liberal youth), the most popular rap music happens to be that which reflects the public attitude.
Boasting is part of Rap since it started in NYC. You go to the sound system and you prove that you are the best MC when by boasting about your skills and all. That's also why Rap is related to The Dozens.

>Also, black culture hardly exists. "Black history" in America is American history, and if you think black people in Compton share any sense of a shared cultural experience with Chinese black people or native Africans then you're not smart.
Wow, you are so smart, nravo. Of course, if I'm talking about Rap and The Dozens, it's pretty clear that I'm referring to Black American culture when I say "Black xulture". No need to act like this when you know very well this. I'm African, so you have nothing to teach me regarding that, I know Black culture doesn't exist as a monolith.

That being said, we have braggadacio in my country too, in the form of griot self-praise singing. Infact Tassu is proto-Rap in a way, except that the focus on rhyming isn't there.

its not about what you play or how you play it
its who plays it and why they play it

rap recycling is good for the musical environment
lyrics can motivate you

Punk and rap are both garbage