/prod/ - Music Production

Arturia Keystep Pro when?

Hey bros, I'm new to using Ableton/Logic/practicing on Garageband
Where can I download some good sounds, like different instruments? The ones that are on the programs already are terrible

Kontakt libraries.

Elaborate pls

There's a plugin called Kontakt (made by Native Instruments) where you can load these libraries of sampled instruments that are like little programs made specifically to play those samples in a realistic way.
There are a ton of these libraries (first and third party) for almost every instrument you can imagine.
Check audioz.download or rutracker.org if you want to pirate some.
I don't use it myself so I can't recommend any specific ones unfortunately, but you can find them by googling what you need.

Google "Kontakt libraries".

get dexed/synth1 they are free. but honestly every built in ableton suite plug-in is good. i'd start with those just to get your grips around it

>synth1
stop recommending this shitty synth

fuck off, don't talk shit

it's straight up okay at best in comparison to other free synths and a complete toy compared to popular paid synths

Why don't you use it?

Too poor to afford a good hard drive, so I don't have space for them.
If I could I'd definitely use it a lot.

hey does anybody wanna listen to my 30 minute drone? :3

no

clyp.it/arxshnrq

I don't know
I don't even care about any of this shit

but dude it like toooootally morphs throughout!
it really picks up 20 minutes in!

low key though i splice the good bits for this kind of shit but it's really going to be a bitch fuck ambient music mannnnn

that piano isn't working for this one and i maintain that you should be avoiding it in general

also some of the notes you play i with it intermittently clash like crazy with the chords

Not for 30 minutes, can you just speed it up to like 5?

instaud.io/40QK

How do I get good? How do I make my synths sound less gay? How do I make my drums sound better? How do I make my music less repetitive? Should I just throw in the towel?

I will listen and compare to my own drones

obvs a joke, i warped it to 8:30, testing now..... seems a little too fast hmmmm

man i was joking but i'll post when i have a more final version if you actually /drone/

Abletons built-in instruments are already a good start. You can work some magic with Operator and Wavetable if you fuck around with them. The only thing I think the base selection is lacking is drums that don't blow, but you can get drums for free from just about anywhere.
As far as free plugins, I've used synth1, TAL, Dexed, and Tunefish. They're all okay.

Are there any tutorials or guides on how to make Electronic music? Everything is for House and EDM, I never see anything for just straight up "Electronic" or Electronica artists. I mean shit like Crystal Castles, PC Music, Icona Pop, Daft Punk, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu, Kero Kero Bonito, etc.

Don't say Dance Music Manuel.

under 10min drones are acceptable

>that piano isn't working for this one and i maintain that you should be avoiding it in general
>also some of the notes you play i with it intermittently clash like crazy with the chords

It sounded good when I made it but I generally don't feel alive or awake right now.

>bait post

Can anyone become great?

I really want to keep doing this stuff, but I don't know how long it takes to see somewhat of a progress or talent or creativity within yourself.

Every single day I struggle because I'm extremely new. I have tons of ideas and sounds in my head but I can't make any of them yet because I don't know jack shit.

Maybe once I have my first keyboard it will become easier.

LINK ALL RESOURCES YOU'VE READ OVER ALL YOUR YEARS OF STUDYING PRODUCTION.

I'm desperate.

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Not sure I understand what you mean, but putside of synth patches and a few other small things, production techniques are kind of universal. If you learn to make EDM, all you have to do is to make different stylistic choices and you make those other genres.
The Dance Music Manul will teach you those techniques (well, the basics of them).

>Maybe once I have my first keyboard it will become easier.
To become good enough at playing keys that it benefits your music creation takes much longer than just becoming good enough at music making that you don't struggle like you are right now.

I feel like it will be easier mapping out my melodies and such with a keyboard.

>I never see anything for just straight up "Electronic" or Electronica
that's because it's not a genre you fucking dunce

crystal castle is detuned saw/pwms and simple squares (actually ms2000 waves) on 808 house drums with occasionally really swung beats in the early stuff and selective bit crushing

depends which era of daft punk... that's a big topic.... look up house drums or "grooves" in general if you don't get how to do that, 909 drums obviously... i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but i notice a lot of electribe samples, or at least shit that reminds me of them in their music

KKB is *80s lmao* i'm so quirky
WAIT FUCK i think so too but that genuinely sounds like a post that (________) would make

bet

:(

>"i'm new and frustrated" post

No, no, don't misunderstand. Not frustrated by one bit, more so just rambling. I really do wonder if anyone can become great if they have enough creativity in them.

I will keep doing this no matter what, I'm for the first time in my life having this much fun. Sports did nothing to me compared to sitting down and making music. I don't even want to be anyone, I just want to create songs that have already influenced my mind.

I think the sounds you used meshed decently. It's a well structured track, there isn't any section that felt like it dragged on for me. The piano could use some change, but you were on the right path with it.

how is it bait

I don't need to learn production techniques I mean how do I produce that genre? Like structure and composition-wise?

>that's because it's not a genre you fucking dunce
Electropop then. Allie X. Charli XCX. KKB. PC Music. Lady Gaga. Kyary Pamyu Pamyu. Etc.

Sure, you'll be able to hit keys and try things out right away, if that's what you want to do.

for the life of me i cant learn hand independence
wtf do i do

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There's a few things I want to do.

To understand music, the inner-workings of FL, music theory, how specific sounds were made by people, how I can make the sounds I have in my head, how to sample properly, arrange songs, I want to know everything there is.

I just hope I can become great one day.

>I don't need to learn production techniques I mean how do I produce that genre? Like structure and composition-wise?
If you can already produce, have you tried importing a song into your DAW and trying to replicate some aspects of it?
It's the single greatest exercise to learn that.
After you do a couple different ones you'll be able to just understand the arrangement of a song just by listening.

Or you can search for tutorials on youtube for specific artists.

its bait cause the only thing preventing you from finding tutorials for genres of the artists you mentioned is ACTUALLY SEARCHING FOR THE GENRE NAMES

Do you really expect everyone to believe you typed "how to make electronic music" into youtube and then just gave up? fuck off

>I will keep doing this no matter what, I'm for the first time in my life having this much fun

that is an attitude conducive to becoming "Great"
people will argue all day about having an innate ability and have the defeatist attitude that there isn't a point to trying unless you've got it, but as they say: "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

idk, my philosophy is talent doesn't matter and you should just work harder- there are a shit load of artist who i know aren't *technically* amazing, they're not fucking jimi hendrix or trent reznor or whoever the fuck, but even that music from people who don't have *it* or whatever the fuck that means can produce music that means quite a lot to people, even if it's not that good- i believe everybody who tries can potentially make something like that and it's worth pursuing

>Electropop then
that's still a broad ass sound

I think I finally figured it out. I may have perfected sampling, I'll shout you out when I make it to the mountaintop.

Thank you, i'm having difficulty with coming up with variations of musical ideas. How do you deal with this?

>I want to know everything there is.
With that thirst of knowledge, you probably will.
It's gonna take time, so take it easy.
As long as you work hard there's no point in giving yourself a hard time.
If you have ideas that your skills don't allow you to reproduce in the DAW, record yourself humming/singing them and give a brief description of how it sounds like in your head.
Build a database of these ideas so that when you're good enough you can go back to them and turn them into songs.

help me fellas, what is the secret trick to actually make the voice recordings sound "studio-record-like"? quality of my voice recordings just doesnt sound good enough to me

I agree with this philosophy to be honest. I just have to work hard and see where that takes me. Like I said, I don't even care about making it big and producing for people, I mean that moreso as completing full songs for my own pleasure.

Actually good advice, not sure how I didn't think of that. Will do that for sure.

There is one thing I do struggle with though, all my life honestly. Yes, I really do want to know a lot of stuff, and yes I do find this stuff super, super fun, but I've always had the problem of never knowing where I can learn from.

It's hard to determine if someone is speaking facts or not at the beginning because you, yourself don't know jack shit. I don't want to follow or read some meme advice on songs and end up picking up bad habits.

>There is one thing I do struggle with though, all my life honestly. Yes, I really do want to know a lot of stuff, and yes I do find this stuff super, super fun, but I've always had the problem of never knowing where I can learn from.
>
>It's hard to determine if someone is speaking facts or not at the beginning because you, yourself don't know jack shit. I don't want to follow or read some meme advice on songs and end up picking up bad habits.
Unironically read the Dance Music Manual.
It's widely regarded as the best resource for beginners to learn the foundation of all the different skills you need to produce.
I can upload the latest version if you want.

Would be awesome, really appreciate it.

Good mic, good preamp, good room, good converters, arguably in that order in terms of importance

>If you can already produce, have you tried importing a song into your DAW and trying to replicate some aspects of it?
No. But I'd just have to move shit around until the notes sorta match up? That sounds annoying as fuck but I see how it makes sense.

What? When you search electronic music tutorials on YouTube only House and EDM shit pop up.

>that's still a broad ass sound
Ugh.

Found a link in the archive that I posted for anothr user:
we [DOT] tl/t-lA3jb9ZbJr

Goddamnit, I'm starting to think I'm only getting worse at this.

instaud.io/4126

>No. But I'd just have to move shit around until the notes sorta match up? That sounds annoying as fuck but I see how it makes sense.
It's mostly for the arrangement, so divide the song into "blocks" for however many sections it has, then see how they flow into each other and try to understand why they made it that way.
Then if you want you can go a little deeper and recreate the midi, then the sound design, etc.
You can stop at whichever level you feel most comfortable, but obviously the deeper you go the more you learn.
But even if you stop at just the arrangement, try to analyze every aspect of it by listening closely, looping parts, etc.

I guess I have shit then.
>Audio Technica AT2020
>Line6 UX2
>square room, 25 m2, acoustic curtains, mic isolation shield, carpets on floor
>what are even converters?

oh that makes a lot of sense
thanks

>we [DOT] tl/t-lA3jb9ZbJr

tyvm dude!

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Yup, pretty low budg operation you got there. Deal with it the best you can in mixing

Converters are the analog to digital converters that in your case, are in inside your audio interface.

what's better than sylenth1

Is it possible to upgrade it reasonably for lets say a thousand dollars?

sylenth1 fucking sucks it doesn't even have presets

ICE COLD!

But seriously, I'd say Diva is better for a virtual analog (if your CPU allows it).
Also the Rob Papen stuff is pretty good.

>Daft Punk is electronica (not French House)
>Icona Pop is electronica (not Synth Pop)
>Crystal Castles is electronica (not Witch House)
>PC Music is electronica (not Harsh Trash)
sure

Sometimes it takes a while (I sat on my first track for months) for things to click together.
>try not to worry about it, even though you're definitely going to
>if you're still in the mood to create then try opening a new set and starting fresh on something else to get the neurons firing again
>go eat, because you've probably been sitting in front of your DAW for a few hours moping about the drums being shit
>listen to some music for a while
>take a break for the day and do something else
Listening to music sometimes helps me the most. Whether it's within the genre I'm going for to try and understand what I'm missing sonically, listening to my favorites to inspire me, or discovering new songs for completely fresh ideas.

The only synth that has more presets than Sylenth1 is Massive (and maybe Serum), what are you talking about?

Harsh Trash? Sorry for not not knowing specific genres or whatever.

What are YOU talking about? The version of Sylenth 1 had a bunch of random banks included but no factory presets.

If you don't know something you can google it you know...

Sure.

Audio Interface:
Audient id14 ~$300 (Or used $200-250)

Mic:
AKG c214 $400
Neumann TLM 102 $700
Rode NTK $529

I recommend buying audio equipment used. You can find really good deals, and if you take care of the equipment well you can always sell it later for a similar price when you want to upgrade to something better. I got a Neumann TLM 193 which costs $1500 new for $700 on ebay.

It does have a factory bank. The one that starts with the legendary Arp 303 Saw preset.

Thank you, will definitely think about those.
In the meantime, what are the best advices you can give me about recording on the crap I have right now? I don't expect that much.

Okay, I actually found it after looking around a bit. It's still annoying that I need to open/import the soundbank every time instead of it just being there when I bring up the VST.

I never had to do that.
It was always there for me.
Maybe you got some weird version.

You can try setting up your mic in all different places around your room in different ways and see what sounds the best to you. Move the mic shield around, move the curtains around, face different directions, try whatever you can to see what works best.

Okay sounds reasonable. Nothing DAW related?

Other than improving your mixing, no not really

I suppose this includes EQ, dynamics and possibly reverb?

Sure, there's tons of different aspects of mixing

Here's some youtube channels with good info
youtube.com/user/WarrenHuartRecording
youtube.com/user/reidiculousremix
youtube.com/channel/UCFgUBKoy5trmcyVh1e_AS8Q/
youtube.com/watch?v=6sQ6TdQ_W1o&list=PLdnXYNdnoMZzHb-S7XdwFIURP9MRQYyu2

The last guy bobby owsinski has a lot of great stuff on lynda.com that you can find torrents for online

Anyone have any advice for recording and mixing rap vocals? My shit sounds off for some reason, am I off beat? Is it too sharp? What's going wrong here?

clyp.it/zo1l25p1

Over pronouncing "er" words like "brother" sounds a a little weird. Could be a quirky ironic thing I guess

hey, i come to you from /gg/. i play guitar and bass, but i want to stop using audacity and maybe add some drums and effects and stuff.
i have a tiny bit of experience with a pal's copy of ableton, but there is no way i can afford a legit version of it. does anyone know if audioz.download is a safe place to pirate it? i just don't want to brick my computer.
or, is there another daw with its own synths and drum racks (besides logic because i can't afford a mac either). i know reaper is free-ish, but i don't think it has any instruments of its own.
thank you

use rutracker.org to torrent everything

Sounds like you broke your flow after "a few fan letters". Starts to sound more like a spoken word piece that happens to have musical accompaniment. Also once you start getting really into it I think I hear some peaking.

audioz is legit.

grab a copy of superior drummer 2 or BFD 3 while you're at it. the sample libraries for those can be quite large so be prepared for some big downloads. there's an absolutely massive dump of kits for bfd 3 on rutracker so just pick and choose from that.

ableton might not be ideal for your needs, btw.

studio one would likely be a better fit (and it's fairly straightforwards).

reaper or protools would be even better but you might get a little overwhelmed. reaper does have absolutely fantastic free tutorials to get you started though.

I am bad at making house beats and I dont want to download samples from google.
I would appreciate some loops.
The kick hat clap kind

I downloaded one called dave parkinson house essentials and I remember it had a lot of loops

clyp.it/1npgxadj
>space rock
Replaced the synth bass with a real bass guitar and gave everything a bit more headroom so now it sounds quite a bit more natural. Drums don't get as lost now too.

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>not making your own
FL Studio user?

ok hows this?

clyp.it/kpgz1tnw

>bad at making house beats
How is this possible?

thank you

>Sounds like you broke your flow after "a few fan letters"
I switched up the flow on that line but it's still on beat afterwards, I just stopped putting the rhyme on the snare. In fact, it gets better at that point, because it's like a broke free and my writing became less boxed in. I know immortal technique rhymes the same way but I can't do it easily.

On Reaper, I get how to use VSTs. But what if you just have individual samples for like a kick, snare, etc. that you want to use? How do you do that like you would in FL?

Remember that Immortal Technique literally has one of the worst flows of any "successful" rapper, so he's maybe not someone you want to model yourself after

Bruh
>kick on 1 2 3 4
>snare on 2 4
>hi hat in between every kick
>one other thing (anything) playing once off grid from percussion above

How to find based samples like the ones you hear in songs and you are like “damn that’s a based sample”

sample Gucci Gucci by Kreashawn, its time

All the good samples have already been used. Give up.

I think it's sick how he doesn't rhyme on the beat and just emphasizes the word on the beat and just writes like he's speaking instead of rapping. It makes it easier to just talk over the beat instead of having to force a "normal" rapping rhythm.

clyp.it/kpgz1tnw

can somone explain how chords and chord progressions work to me

Why should anyone waste time explaining that to you if you cant even go on youtube and type in "Chord and chord progressions explained" or some shit like that?

Any attempt at doing so would be a waste of time.

chords are 4 or more notes stacked on top of each of other with three or four spaces inbetween

you still suck.
even after 2 years
go away

sigh

its been one y ear

musicradar.com/news/tech/free-music-samples-download-loops-hits-and-multis-627820
68 000 samples and loops.
If you cant get shit done with that, it's not the lack of samples or loops that halts your music production, it's you.

Retard, it's three or more notes. And even two notes is still a chord to some extent

i got u bro

youtube.com/watch?v=Z3M3mR1Op5o

That's cool, I'm just telling you that the general consensus on him is that his flow is awful, so if you deliberately try to mimic him, people are going to say "something sounds off about your flow." It's like if someone deliberately modeled their flow after Silkk the Shocker and was then confused when someone said their flow was wack.
I agree with that user, btw, your flow falls off and starts sounding awkward after the "fan letter" bar

he was probably thinking chord + tonic (bassline)

You sound like you're doing spoken word poetry, not rapping.

The tonic is still usually the bassline in a chord

Anyone use PreSonus One?

>The tonic is still usually the bassline in a chord
yeah that was what I was saying all ready

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Someone post the pic

No, because chord + tonic is not four notes, that's still only three distinct notes

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I have them and they are all shit wich is probably why they are free

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How the fuck do you google a term that you don't even know exists?

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>vocaroo.com/i/s16uZtQwjqGh
You'll never be able to sing low dude, just give that part up. Maybe next life.

it's an old (and terrible) /prod/ meme. I didn't mind at first but these idiots went too far when they edited the chords wikipedia article to match the meme

>what genre is X artist
>what are the subgenres of Y genre
part of me thinks your dumb ass question is bait because who could be that retarded, but we are on 4channel so who knows.

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For better or worse it sounds like a busy works beats tutorial track. Don’t get discouraged because I can hear progression. I think you’d make some interesting aggressive style beats as opposed to more chill stuff. Your ear for rhythm is pretty good so you could also try to do drums that are more spread out and have interesting off the grid timing.

>Are there any tutorials or guides on how to make Electronic music?
Develope an ear for sound and production. If you can pick out sounds and how to make em. Especially some of the basic ass synths alot of the artists you've named used/uses. Most of them just sound like soft synth presets. Daft Punk is the only one I can with certainty say used hard synths. Mostly TR 303 and Juno-106.

This isnt advanced stuff. Stop asking for shortcuts. Put in the time like the rest of us.

>why do my beats sound so amateurish
Urgh, this DAW music

Option 1
>Make good music
>Publish tracks on soundcloud
>Send unpublished tracks to small net labels
>Get on a netlabel
>Release an album or two on said net label
>Send unpublished tracks to more popular labels
>Get on more popular label
>Release an album or two on the more popular label
>Send unpublished tracks to even more popular label
--or--
Option 2
>Do not release any music
>Send music to popular labels as a literal who

Do either of these work?
I don't mean for making a living, more for just getting your music out and in front of as many people as possible.

Option 2 is less likely to work because they get music from thousands of literally who's every day and they don't have the time to listen to them, they just trash it all and focus on who's buzzing.

I'm reading up on this and they're all saying to make Twitter, Facebook, [yourname].com, etc. Fuck this social media shit. I'll just stick with my 2 listens on Soundcloud (thanks mom & dad).

idgi brehs, every single preset sounds like utter shit to me...

like what is the best way to learn prod bois, is learning the dmm the only way

stop writing like a spastic 14 year old

Trying again: on Reaper, I get how to use VSTs. But what if you just have individual samples for like a kick, snare, etc. that you want to use? How do you do that like you would in FL?

don't reply if you want to say shit like this cunt

If your music resonates with people it will get attention on its own. The caveat to that is that you need to send it to relevant people.

well dont ask stupid fucking questions like
>how do i make musik
>how to i get my shit to sound fire
>how do i breathe

and most importantly, read the fucking sticky

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>on Reaper
At the morning, myself bends up over bed. I walk toward table and sit down at chair. In the table, placed my bowl; inside is cereal. Spoon with hand goes into bowl, out cereal comes and down mouth. Delicious cereal. Good morning.
You could use a sampler vst that can play multiple samples or you can just paste your individual samples directly inside of the audio track. I would recommend different tracks for different instruments/samples to help keep things separated for when you want to apply effects and EQ.

fuck nigger music

golly, what a conversation starter.

I don't know, man. It doesn't seem like I'm getting anywhere with this. I think it's almost been 2 years. I thought I got to a point where I was decent but most of what I made recently has been utter garbage. Maybe its because I'm trying to branch out and make less formulaic trap stuff or maybe its because I'm putting more attention into the stuff I'm making/being more picky and realizing that I still don't really know what I'm doing or like what I'm doing. I'm not equipped enough to achieve what I want to musically but I can't figure it out on my own and you can only learn so much from trap tutorials, not that I really have the attention span for those anyway.

I really want to start rapping and releasing music but I can't get the sounds I want and it feels like everything is getting shittier. I just want to kill myself and I feel like my 4GB RAM laptop is gonna brick itself any day, it can barely even play YouTube videos.

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can you rap

idgi

You should do everything in your power to get more ram or new computer, its not unattainable. You'll never be able to do a thing with a shit computer

one at a time playing slowly

How to process vocals

is the google search, then spend the rest of your life watching the eons of content

I think you're improving desu, hard to start making music from scratch if you didn't start as a kid. If it's only been 2 years of you playing/making music you're doing good.

feedback? clyp.it/zzcshjll

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Kinda sorta, I've been practicing a lot less since I started producing and I can't write for shit. It's hard to rap about your life when you don't have one. and its even more difficult for me to think coherently when I'm not high and get in touch with my "emotions". I just end up copying Tyler and Kanye.

Yeah, having a job would be great and super helpful, but I don't think I can make it work. I just can't convince myself to care enough, making myself get out of bed and eat something every day is difficult as is. I'm even in a community program right now for youths thats supposed to act as a direct pipeline to finding employment in your desired field and I'm thinking of quitting that too.

>hard to start making music from scratch if you didn't start as a kid.
I mean technically I was playing piano and reading sheet music when I was 5 and 6 but I stopped once my teacher moved away.
>feedback?
I have no idea what you're going for but its cool.

YOU MUST FIND A WAY. Stop producing on a laggy system, it kills everything

You could try scrolling past the literal first result, if it isn't helpful enough. Works just fine for most artists however.

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1. Good performance. Half the sound is someone who knows how to sing in front of a microphone. Take it from someone who thought he could fake it in post. You cant, at least not if you want a high end product. That shit takes practice.

2. High end productions use a shitload of overdubs, but this mostly applies to pop, edm, rnb music, but also rock and metal use it alot.
-main vocal
-two overdubs for power
-harmony
-left overdub
-right overdub
-lower register overdub
-whispering overdub for air

3. Learning to arrange the production so there's actuall room in the mix for the vocals.

4. reverb, reverb, reverb. Never underestimate the power of the reverb. It's easy to think that reverb is only for when you want a huge sound for something like a ballad, but reverbs comes in all shapes and sizes and a small short roomy reverb might be the thing that places it well in the mix.

The rest is mixing which nobody can really learn you other than giving you pointers.

Take piano lessons. Making shit up on a computer and throwing it up here for people to trash wont get you anywhere. And you're not doing anyone here any favor begging for a report on your own progress while it's obvious you've run yourself into a ditch which you've been stuck in for a year.
So take beginners piano lessons. It's obvious you lack some serious fundamentals most of us get through exposure to nursery rhymes and radio. A piano teacher will help you fill in those holes better than any of us can do. Just be up front about the fact that you know little of music and you're jst winging it.

that won't be enough to make much of a difference - so I'd focus on trying to learn pop music fundamentals and recreating beats you like by dragging them in and copying some patterns. Maybe use someone else's rhythm with your sample or vice versa. Basically just steal until you eventually absorb and decode things, you'll eventually get good. You need to be a shameless thief

idk what I'm going for with that beat Iol

whataboutthisone? clyp.it/f3l1e0xe

I agree with this guy - wasted 2 years of my life on a laggy system clyp.it/f3l1e0xe

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what does it sound like when you autotune text-to-speech to a melody and vocode it

Are you telling me to steal? I'm joking. Its not really laggy (its brand new, got it December), its just... not durable. Two screws fell out the bottom and the disc drive fell out the other day. It being sturdy and not great performance-wise is the reason I haven't really used my MIDI keyboard.

>It's obvious you lack some serious fundamentals most of us get through exposure to nursery rhymes and radio.
I really wish you all would stop saying that its both untrue and condescending. I could play piano and read sheet music before I was 7 years old and EVERYBODY listens to music as a kid. I didn't listen to the radio cause I'm not in my 50s but there was shit like VH1 Top 20 Countdown and a bunch of musicals I grew up seeing/listening to (Phantom of the Opera, The Wiz, Les Miserables, The Lion KIng on Broadway, The Music Man, etc). I have a vinyl collection comprised mostly of stuff I got before I was in middle school. And I grew up with shows like Little Einsteins and Class of 3000. Stop telling me I "wasn't exposed to music".

>he hasn't heard Vocaloid

>friday night /prod/

gets good advice
>REEE I really wish you all would stop saying that its both untrue and condescending.

ah damn bruh that's not a good attitude. seems like you lack any self-awareness

you'll probably never get good, go get a job

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You can say "you should try to get piano lessons" without being condescending about it. The advice is noted, I've brought up taking piano again to my mom several times. I don't need to show appreciation to someone thats being an asshole.

>I really wish you all would stop saying that its both untrue and condescending.
Well then I dont know what to say. I wont sit here and sugar coat it, half the stuff you put up here sounds like it was made by an alien who visited earth for a week and now wants to make "human music".

It's not your production. your production is passable most of the time, sometimes it's good. It's just that your compositions just doesnt work. I've tried to explain this to you before and god knows theres probably 50 others who have frequented /prod/ this last year that will say the same.

That's why I'm telling you to take piano lessons if you're actually serious about music, because what you're making now just doesnt gel, it doesnt convey any emotional or intellectual information. It's just chords and melodies that sounds ok for 1 bar and just go totally out of wack the next. And that you cant spot that on your own tells me that you're missing something essential in the process.
Majority of what's posted here is bland and not memorable, me included, but at least there emotional or intellectual information in the music that tells us what the composer intends.

But help us out here, maybe will understand this better. Post an example of music you like to listen to now and post an example or two of what you want your music to sound like. Maybe we can get to the root of the problem if we can hear your inspirations.

>"seems like you lack any self-awareness"
-namefagging in /prod/

fuck off faggot

>I've brought up taking piano again to my mom several times
LOL

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I am in possession of a broken tb-303 and very depress

>It's just that your compositions just doesnt work
>And that you cant spot that on your own tells me that you're missing something essential in the process.
Majority of what's posted here is bland and not memorable, me included, but at least there emotional or intellectual information in the music that tells us what the composer intends.

No, that 100% makes sense to me. I completely get that. I think I've noticed that more now than I did before that my compositions don't convey anything on their own. Or rather that it bothers me now than it did before. I never open my DAW thinking about or wanting to communicate a feeling so it's no wonder that my music is so lifeless. I understand that sincerity and emotion is the key to truly meaningful and great art but I don't really feel much. I want to kill myself for sure but even my self loathing is kind of detached in a way. When I make and post a beat I'm just trying to create something "passable", I guess.

>Post an example of music you like to listen to now and post an example or two of what you want your music to sound like. Maybe we can get to the root of the problem if we can hear your inspirations.
youtube.com/watch?v=XNo0h0H3NDQ
youtube.com/watch?v=0jp4aKGh-pA
youtube.com/watch?v=c4j9Z9bwBBU

It was difficult narrowing it down to three but this is the type of shit I've been listening to most recently. I think I want to create music that's like this, but hip-hop.

It's saturday morning

love the POOPOO

Feel free to steal my ideas.

Making an album where each track is inspired by a single tamagotchi. I imagine it being experimental ambient, IDM, and drill n bass.

Other idea is making a satirized plunderphonics album on trap music. Since trap is literally everywhere and has peaked in saturation, making a bizarre sound collage of distorted and chopped popular trap songs could sound cool, loads of reverb. I also imagine that one Autechre song called "whip" but instead of whip sounds it's adlibs. Ambient songs made of strictly retriggered the fuck out trap percusions. It's endless. I haven't seen anyone try this yet.

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the fuck is drill n bass

real vaporwave hours but instaudio is down and i cant share

then use clyp it
instaudio is working fine for me anyway

>clyp it
Making an account sounds like reddit.

youtube.com/watch?v=yrQM_RUfnq0
youtube.com/watch?v=tbLt0S0W5jE
youtube.com/watch?v=zF2iEXZ-6L4
Basically dnb taken to the max.

oh yeah i understand now. hadn't heard it be called that before

good idea might steal it

It's fun to make. You can bullshit most of the drum patterns and people will think you're a mad genius. But to make it good you need good melodies and sound design to back it up.

i imagine it's just slicing d&b drum loops into half incoherent trash, then somehow making it half palatable but not too palatable...

Yeah you got the idea.

time to download some free breaks

Also if you wanna diy just bitcrush some synth made drums and distort. I prefer doing it this way because you can do more weird shit with the drums.

hmm, i do own the wave alchemy synth drums pack i bought for £1 like 6 years ago and have never touched. good idea

fuck i want a 90's elektron machinedrum now

Just got off the phone with my cousin Shlomo, we're going to make a killing off of your ideas.

use chords from popular music and change them a little bit , after some time you get the idea of chords

Is Push 1 still a viable option? They're dirty cheap on the used market. Is Push 2 THAT much better?

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I'm speaking personally here, but having had a maschine studio, I can't vouch for controllers. You feel cool using them but a mouse is way superior, use MouseKeys so you're not clicking and dragging. Even when you get the hang of a controller there's still a lag of what button / knob do I push next to do this thing I would have done with a mouse in the time it took me to think the question

You have a unique combination of extreme stupidity, lazyness, and arrogance that will guarantee that you'll never make it.
Choose something easier to do my friend because sooner or later you'll realize that this music thing isn't gonna work out.

instaud.io/414M

it falls flat after the intro doesnt it? i dont know what to add to it

file not found dawg

uploaded wrong file, deleted it and was about to upload again when pic related

anyway here clyp.it/sutivgrs

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The whole story is that I used to have a Korg padKontrol to program drums but at one point I stopped with computer music because the whole process made me autistic, so I sold everything.
While I was looking a used padKontrol to buy again I saw Push 1 selling for good prices and what I hated about the padKontrol was not even being able to control the transport even in a basic way.
In no way I would buy the Push for the complete workflow.

Yeah that might be a good thing for you, I treated the maschine as a daw and would get frustrated

I would dial the saturation back or smooth it with delay verb or chorus, but then overly crunchy maybe what you are going for. Pretty good I guess though the kick at the start feels quite heavy especially with a similar snare

There are literally doctoral programs about this, go to school for the better part of a decade and you'll get it.

Ah, the infamous "FL Studio" sound.

>mfw reaper's radial menu script

still not as slick as maya's marking menus, but still feels like magic at times.

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fucking chink add spammers ruining everything I DON"T WANT TO GO BACK TO CLYP REEEE

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>instaud.io is shutting down
So now we go back to clypfagging like the old days?

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gotta love Reaper and its Winrar-style paying system

>which one is life, and which the meme?

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i wasn't aware until recently that the guy who made winamp also started the company that built reaper.

it's funny that those 60 million AOL bucks he made from selling winamp, basically make reaper this weird pet project that's partially immune from commercial considerations.

do you reckon AOL ever regrets everything they ever did and bought?

Boomers never regret, only reminisce.

i'm sure the people who made those decisions are wildly rich and long retired.

I usually don't post my stuff here for feedback, but I'm kind of going through something right now and feel like I haven't improved in a while. I stayed up all night making this track so I could post it here and get any feedback I can. I don't care what you want to say, you could tell me its garbage and I should give up. That's fine, I just want anything.

I know that the track isn't very long and the progression is a bit fast, but I don't want to stay up any longer and will sleep for now.

clyp.it/pgara3bs?token=2639d293ff5245f55c1242afa6f86ee3

It sounds like some music some sort of computer algorithm would create when you press "randomize" in DAW or something like that

Don't know is that a good or bad thing

its pretty bad but not in a demarcus way. being bad in a demarcus way means you would best leave music but that's not the case here. it just sounds like you haven't been producing enough time to have the skills to realize your ideas. This 'badness' isn't bad, it's just a stage in your progression. imo

put ott on master

that's garbage there's a guy with a microkorg on youtube that gets close recreating some sounds

Come on man, don't be so hard on Demarcus.
He's actually improving a lot.

the synths aren't convincing, but i'd keep the drum track

lol

>tfw 24 and have still achieved literally nothing
>watching friends and acquaintances release project after project
>i still can't even finish a single track

i swear to god I can write songs in my head all day but the second I try and flesh them out my brain just gives up

me too. except im 26

Same here at 25.

finishing tunes is the only to learn how to finish tunes.

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only those who execute have a chance at succeeding

Why the fuck is the sample rate changing my sound so much? 44.1 is super bassy & 192 is less bassy with more treble

To be fair his production has gotten better but his sound selection is still boggling sometimed and his composition is still meme-tier at best.

Don't remind me

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He'll get there eventually.

cuz your plugins are aliasing

What kind of music you produce? It is fucking hard on your own. I am first time recording myself, in my home studio.

For reference: back in the day with my old band, with actual players, we would rehearse the songs for few months. Book in studio session. Finish the recording process in 2-3 days. Have professionals help us do the recording, mixing, mastering. Good times. The end product was always pretty good, mostly depending on how tight you played in your tracks.

Now what used to take 1-2 days takes me 7 days on my own. Setting up all the stuff. After that there is mixing, just doodling and fucking around. Mixing, mastering etc. I've finished 3 tracks out of 8 tracks for my album project. 3 tracks has taken me now 30 days, with all the mixing involved and now they are ready in a sense that I will just send them to a mastering engineer when I've got all the others done, but at least I am satisfied with the result.

Where were you when instaud.io died?

Aight looks like I should just keep using the same sample rate

working on a couple of drafts
clyp.it/vbd1z5hh
clyp.it/pmcyi1jl

Spamming it with shitty generated ambient tracks.

this nigga demarcus needs to drill in the basics of music theory and learn all scales/modes and chords theory. He's overcomplicating things and browsing this gen doesn't help him. Dude needs a good computer , then get kontakt with massive.

>192

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Meme of the day

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100/10

Based meme rating poster.
You're the light at the end of my tunnel.

im your daddy

Please not again

what the FUCK

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fuck bros I don't want to make a clyp account it defeats the whole point of being anonymous

New rule:
>All music posted through clyp.it must be uploaded on account named Anonymous with no profile picture or description, and all tracks must be private.

i guess you'll have to stop making music then

>At the morning, myself bends up over bed. I walk toward table and sit down at chair. In the table, placed my bowl; inside is cereal. Spoon with hand goes into bowl, out cereal comes and down mouth. Delicious cereal. Good morning.
That is some good ass writing

clyp.it/nbzd2ybs

Thoughts on this? I took an user's advice and switched to Famitracker, and that actually made things a bit easier.

this weeks prod challenge is hard

can anyone recommend a sampler VST that plays multiple samples like the FL interface?

THIS

>Instaudio is shutting down.
>Instaudio has started the process of shutting down, and is no longer accepting new uploads.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

clyp.it/user/ty4rnvxg

officially in sound design loop hell, think i've exported 6 different versions of this now and i cant decide if its garbage or if im just completely overthinking it and it just needs a bit of better mixing

you still have picosong, ri-
>picosong is shutting down
WHAT THE FUCK

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CLYP IS CLOSING DOWN TOO WHAT THE FUCK?
twitter.com/Clyp_It

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>mfw it's real
Seriously, what is going on?
This can't be a coincidence.
Did every spammer just discover audio sites and brought them all to their knees?

ALL MUSIC JUST EVAPORATES

Lmao you got me fags

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so where do we upload now?
do we all have to learn to make webms and use /wsg/?

clyp, and everyone has the same name/image

clyp is shutting down too
twitter.com/Clyp_It

/prod/ account on clyp with a /prod/ email. when a fag delets it we just make new

Is getting an Apogee Ensemble worth having to switch to a Mac and having to run Logic Pro?

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I don't think anyone here is willing to sit on clyp 24/7 making a new account every 2 minutes.

clyp.it gang taking over for the 99 and 2000

not in the slightest
rme obliterates that shit

It doesn't sound too hard.
Whatever you make will be cheesy af but that's kind of the appeal of synthwave.

>not in the slightest
>rme obliterates that shit

okay then, I'm just going to mod my spare M-Audio profire 2626

Just post a pic of your music as sheet

but you think someone is willing do do the same thing to delete accounts?

Is that even a question?

have you not seen the shitposting here?
there are people who actively try to ruin threads who clearly have nothing better to do, no shit they would delete accounts

come here and sit on my lap

n-no

now, you have no choice damn it

Fuck you dad, uncle Jimbo made me do that the other day and I did not like it one bit.
*runs away and never comes back*

Thanks for the input. I think the one that made the most sense to me was that the synths aren't convincing, and I couldn't agree more.

I'll make something new today and post again, hopefully with something a bit better.

We believe in you.

listen here you little shit, you're gonna bend over and take it like the man you are. now open wide because daddy is coming in you tonight

did you create the drum track

he cant hear you he ran away

Yes.

well ill get him when he comes back

In some cases what sounds wrong to you is probably the simple fact that you recorded it yourself. If you listen to many recordings where the vocals are very high in the mix (folk music, rock) than you can hear that same thing you're hearing, it's just that you don't pay attention to it that way because you didn't record it.

It can also be mixing, or EQ, or the mic, or the room, etc. but the issue stated above is rarely discussed.

so we soundcloud thread now?

clyp.it/fu2zjnjk

is this mixed ok? I'm pretty shit at mixing help. ignore intro

...

I made this when I woke up today, how is it
clyp.it/ykqww1gf
I want to layer more shit onto it but it feels crowded

How to I make / program acid lines like in this video?

youtu.be/2HPfQIV6yBQ

crank up the bass

is this dude real

The lengths people go to avoid learning to play.

why is the thumbnail a black guy

kills me
they don't even have to learn how to play, FL Studio even has helper functions that highlight scale notes and make chords for you
fuck just use tonespace or something
I'm mad

its juice wrld

tbqh it doesn't really matter because all they're going to do is lay down another shitty trap beat anyway.

IT'S DA 3 2 GAP

remember the three space two space rule bros. we're all gonna make it.

redpill me on this rule

i cba to make a new thread later so im making one now..