/gg/ - Guitar & Bass General

How do I start learning guitar/bass?
>justinguitar.com
>studybass.com
Guitar chords and inversion
>chordbook.com/guitar_chords
String tension calculator (D'Addario-based):
>stringtensionpro.com
Music theory:
>musictheory.net/lessons
Guitar Maintenance and other information:
>frudua.com/guitar_craftpedia_en.html
Why is my guitar buzzing?
>frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Technique/Setup/BuzzDiagnosis/buzzlist.html
Large repository of tabs, books and other resources related to playing and theory:
>mega.nz/#F!v2oQgKhB!5nEaeUD8xxQYO8ipUoViqw

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what kind of amp do you guys use

which pedals do you use

what genre do you mostly play

Line 6 spider
Metal zone
The most brutal metal you ever heard

What are the most vintage sounding strat pickups?

Hand wound single coils.

Where do I get those from? Honestly, I'm just thinking of getting the Fender Pure Vintage '59 set, they sound very vintage and good at the same time but was just asking to check the consensus here.

Order the parts online then wind and solder them yourself.

>he's not wealthy and intelligent enough enough to own a Gibson
>all of his guitars are inadequate, just like him

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Dilate

dont you have a dildo traineer to plug-off your ass ?

Holy fuck vocaroo is being stupid. Anyways a blues improv with some whammy is coming up. This one and the one before are on my american pro.

A 60s Fender Bandmaster into a 2x12. An optical compressor, tubescreamer, big muff, sometimes a holy grail, mxr carbon copy
Post-punk, indie rock

>a dildo traineer

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im not sure i took a glimpse of it at aliexpress.

it was called traineer plug

BLUES IMPROV ON STUDIO ONE 4 USING AMERICAN PRO HSS. SOME WHAMMY WORK.
PLEASE R8 AND GIVE POINTERS.
Also spark em if you got em.
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Buying a Gibson is a no-braineer.

Why do all metal guitars sound the same?

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>No brain
>Buy gibson
>Pedo tranny

Story checks out

They dont though.

Uniquely terrible.

Guys, my local guitar shop has an Ernie Ball Music Man Luke 3 bfr for LESS than $700. Seems a little too good to be true. It is the display model, being that the guy said it was the only one they had. I'm not sure if it was traded in or something, but it looked pretty new.
Now i'm not the best guitar player, in fact I just started getting serious again after buying a Yamaha 112v, but i'm thinking this could be a great guitar to get cheap, as they normally cost around $2-3k. Would probably only come out once I git gud.
Or should I just stick with what I got?

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Guitar?

Thanks. Can you tell me why though so i can work on it?

How long have you been playing?

A Tele, a JM, a Danelectro reissue, and a 60s Musicmaster. Want to get a nice neck-through with humbuckers soon.

starting on an electric does not hamper your progress unless you hamper it yourself by getting a shitload of effects pedals so you don't have to actually play

fucking buy it. the upgrade from yamaha student model to music man performance model is night and day.

used "metal" guitars tend to go for cheap from actual music stores because ninety out of one hundred guitar buyers want a tele, strat, or les paul since they're trying to ape some boomer guitar hero, and nine out of one hundred are kids buying ibanez aping some zoomer guitar hero. that last one is you, the guy who realizes that weird metal axes are actually the best guitars. get to it before some jazz guy does, because he's competing for that last spot.

Well, can you at least post pics of the tele and the musicmaster?

That's like saying starting on an acoustic will only hamper your progress if you say you're a singer songwriter so you don't have to do anything but strum open chords and really sloppily

fuck it felt good in my stupid fingers. I only went to get some fret oil and said what the heck and asked to play it. I guess my hang up on getting it is that 1. I don't feel like my guitar skill is worthy for such a nice instrument & 2. I literally just bought the 112v a few weeks ago.

1. A nice instrument will let you play knowing that anything that sounds wrong is your fault, not the guitars, and will encourage you to stick with it since you might as well play since your guitar is so nice.
2. The 112v is shit and you were going to sell it anyways. I hope you got it from guitar center because if you did you can still return it.

why would you buy an ultra low end student model as an adult man

those are for parents to buy their teenage kids because teenagers rarely stick with anything and adults usually do unless they're manchildren. hence the low investment/good resale thing.

no, I didn't get it from guitar center :(, I bought it online from Amazon, thinking that I wouldn't want to sell it.
Honestly, because i'm a cheapskate and didn't know what an actually good instrument was until after I got it.

Is this what shitty soulless shredding was like in the 50s?

Well you're in luck because if you sold it used you'd only lose $50

Buy a nice guitar, it's worth it.

I literally did this with my own guitar buying experience because if I was going to commit might as well be with a taco strat which I bought because I'm trying to ape Stewart Copeland and also cause I personally enjoyed playing it more than I thought I would.
hey man, worst comes to worst you can sell that really nice guitar for more than you got it but that does sound like a really good deal.
Really just depends on whether you can afford it or not and also whether you really do enjoy the feel and sound of the MM. You can always keep the 112 as a backup

the weirder the metal guitar the bigger the discount you get

if you found an ESP FRX hanging on a wall you could probably offer half of what it was actually worth and get it

Well I guess $50 isn't too bad of a price to pay for my ignorance.
That's what I was thinking, because its priced so nice, I could turn around and sell it for a slight profit if I somehow end up regretting it(which I don't see how I would).

Im self taught for 11 years.

really? interesting

brb signing up for lessons

If you didn't ding it student guitars depreciate very little because they're in high demand due to all the teenagers going through their rock star phase

Follow your heart, also have good financial sense (you are buying a guitar that's actually worth $1000 for $700 because some shop owner is tired of it taking up space - if you quit you made $250 despite the pacifica)

>$1000

Try $1700 and up.

cruch channel on my jcm2000, boosted with a fulltone ocd for my dirty sound.

Please tell me you're trying to sound bad on purpose as a joke

Why in God's name would you open with lingering b2s and b3s in a major blues backing? At least when you start spamming some of your lick library it starts sounding like something for a second. But for real you need to learn about melody because you clearly have nothing going on in your head when you're picking the notes you're playing. Honestly I don't know what to tell you, because you're hitting those ugly notes with supreme confidence which tells me you can't hear how bad they are which means how are you supposed to learn

>Im self taught
we can tell

That's what happens when you learn with tabs

nah, that's what happens when you don't have parents who laid a strong musical foundation for you in early childhood
Trying to develop that as an adult will leave you forever crippled and behind, tab or notation doesn't have much to do with it

Anyone else notice that a lot of amps sound basically the same

youtube.com/watch?v=ONT2QTtACuk

>it's not my faaauuult

Yep. Jcum's obviously tone deaf, it makes me wince every time I click on his vocaroos. Adults can't learn perfect pitch so this is as good as he'll ever get. It's sad really, imagine doing something for 10 years and still being that bad at it. He needs to take up a different hobby, this one won't ever be going anywhere.

Adults can learn relative pitch and composition as a cognitive skill. But it requires, well, cognitive ability. If you're dumb you have to learn it til it's second nature or you'll always suck and you can only do that in childhood. Before you're even 16.

>But it requires, well, cognitive ability
ouch poor jcum

Well yeah I know people who learned music at 30 and got way better than jcum in less than 5 years

But they also had bachelors degrees at the least or were actual autists who wore sonic the hedgehog shirts, stared away from you at a 45 degree angle while talking, and did that weird hand flapping thing. That one was also working on a math major.

From what I can gather I think he's pretty much resigned to his life of mediocrity and severe compromise. He'll be doing the same pointless routine for the rest of his life no matter what so why would he bother trying? Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as they say.

Please stop trying to make jcum sudoku it's not nice

Yes they do.

Yes, they actually do, like all SSS strats sound the same, because they all have similar hardware

>floyd rose
>10 gauge strings
>high output humbuckers, possibly EMGs

Turns out that's all the stuff that really affects tone and makes noise on a guitar. The strings, bridge, and pickups.

can't forget that every metal guitar comes standard with the stiffest, thinnest neck possible

stiff neck = bright tone

All SSS strats don't sound the same but all metal guitars do.

No, all SSS strats sound the same. Exactly the fucking same. SSS stands for SouleSS.

>I think he's pretty much resigned to his life of mediocrity and severe compromise.
You give him way too much credit, he's not that intelligent my guy. I'd be willing to bet he actually thinks all the negativity directed at him here is unwarranted and undeserved. He's just an attention whore who has nothing going on worth paying attention to I'm afraid. That's why he has to make a spectacle of himself, it's the only way he can get anybody to notice him.

Fuck ya'll, if guitar A has the same scale length, strings and pickups as guitar B, they will sound the same.

If they sound different it's in your head and you'd never tell them apart in a double blind test.

should i buy dis guitar?

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>No tone bird

No

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what's a tone bird?

only if you're gonna do jazz things on it

i wanna play blues/rock music

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This guy here has ten of them

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something you can't afford. just don't worry about it

Get a strat then, retard.

stratocasters look so generic though

You can play any genre on any guitar

what about house music?

>strats
>guitars so mediocre they spawned an industry based on improving them

>gibson les pauls
>guitars so good they spawned an industry based on copying them

>he's a tranny and a pedo

>He doesn't know that strats didn't have a tone knob for the bridge because leo intended that they be used to play coutnry

Three sevens tell no lies

what about amp

how will not having a tone knob for the bridge help in playing country music?

you don't fucking need it so leo saved a few cents of wire by not hooking it up

you cannot play any genre on any amp
Amps are more important than guitars
Everyone worth anything knows this

Pulled out the bass for some noodling and rust removal this evening. It's been, i dunno six months since I last played. Anyway I remember why I took the break in the first place. Want to learn new song, look up tab because I want something to get started with even knowing that it will be partly or completely wrong and I will have to rewrite most of it. Play bass for half hour, spend following two hours rewriting the tab. Yay.

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>tfw Tyrone comes over and my wife lets me and her son jam together on my R8 Les Paul in the mancave. she tells me the neck profile is the same size as Tyrone’s girth!

so buy a tab book or just jam your own shit then

so what amp for good old shredding heavy metal

>just jam your own shit then

If I do that then I go straight in to composition mode, start recording bits for future reference, break out the midi keyboard to make drum track etc etc and again spend most of the time not actually playing the bass.

>“I’ve really gotten over pedals. I can’t keep up with this craze of boutique pedals that make you sound like everything but your guitar. I can’t get my head around it. So you don’t want to play a guitar [properly] so you buy a box that makes it sound like an algorithm, like you just fired up your computer and you can spend the night staring at your fuckin’ shoes? C’mon man…
>“I know I’ll get shit for saying this, but it’s fucking lazy. It’s insulting to people who spent 35 years playing and learning, like a lot of players. And we continue to work at it! These guys can barely play a chord but call themselves soundscapists. Get the fuck outta here! It’s bullshit. There’s so much masking and spin going on there. Can we get real for a minute? What do you actually play? Pick up an acoustic guitar… try that!”
Cringe

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notheory here. does Em Cadd9 Dmaj7 work as a progression? i can't figure out what to use instead of Em

A#m7

What tempo can everybody play the Yngwie 6 note pattern at? After an hour I managed to get it up to 8th notes at 200bpm but I think that’s my limit.

Oh you know, any amp.

Just throw a distortion pedal in front of it.

You can play any genre with any amp and any guitar but not any pedal.

pedalfags go too far sometimes with effects that aren't musically useful

>BUT DUDE
>THE AMBIENCE
>ITS AVANT GARDE
>that's a funny way of saying "barely recognizable as music"
>PLEEEEEB

music does not have boundaries that can be pushed, it has boundaries that can be found so you don't go past them again.

>Cadd9 Dmaj7
Those two chords are really weird together. Between notes moving from chord to chord you have a tritone clash and a b9 clash
Which I guess can work in spicy jazz but I have a feeling you're not going for that

lole so dumb

defining your intelligence with musical tastes is for people who lack both

but you just said you cant play any genre on any amp...

>defining your intelligence with musical tastes is for people who lack both

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No, I said you couldn't have gone to guitar camp. Because they teach this stuff.

Can anyone recommend pickguard/color combination to make those player strats look less shitty?

The white looks way too harsh and something is missing from the others.

Mint

Looks like I struck a nerve.

Telecaster.

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I want a tremMint on what?
I’ll probably be getting pf board and I’m not sure which body color either because they leave the worst

Strat trems are worst trems.

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lol so dumb

that's what your mom said about you last night

>that's what your mom said about you last night

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Sounds like Eric Clapton in his Cream days.

that makes more sense than the Em. i dont know why i like how the Em sounds in contrast to the other two chords

dont think im going for jazz. just strumming the chords for fun. i'm adding the G note on the high E string on the Cadd9 if that makes a difference

eric clapton couldn't play in tune either?

What's the best non locking trem?

meant for

I meant he sounds like a tryhard wh*Teboi attempting to do something only a real BLACK BVLL can do which is playing the blues right. just like Eric Clapton, specially in his Cream days.

there are no good non-locking trems

if you can't deal with a floyd you look like this guy

Fmaj7

I don't need a locking trem. I want to play like Gilmour and Jeff Beck, both of whom use a non locking one.

>he needs a trem
>he needs 24 frets
this is how to spot someone who can't play every time

>He needs more than 20 frets and 4 strings

Fucking tryhard. Quit. You have nothing to contribute except amateurish wank.

>muh Amerimutt made

>4 strings
try 8, you vagabond

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"but I NEED 24 frets to play that note,"

no, you suck at guitar. while you "have" to fret that poorly intonated high E, I pre-bend the string faster than you can move that pitiable thing you call a pinky to the exact pitch. you can't even tell, it's just like it was fretted, but it sounds better.

"but I NEED a whammy bar to bend multiple strings in tune"

no, you suck at guitar. while you "have" to have a device to bend all the strings for you I can precisely bend an entire chord in tune with nothing but my fingers. and again, it's precisely in tune. it sounds better.

fact is if you need anything but a telecaster or a les paul you suck at guitar and people wonder why you even bother when you can't fucking play it despite all these training wheels for fucking children.

>probably be getting pf board and I’m not sure which body color either because they leave the worst

Can't recommend pickguard color unless you know what body color you want. Open up paint, make square of possible body color, make another smaller square on top of it in possible pickguard colours. Fiddle until it looks like something you like. I kinda like pickguard same color as body but i'm boring like that. Or pickguard same colored but layered so the edge of it is black or white or something.

>all these instruments for talentless manchildren itt

What's the point? You're only embarrassing yourselves.

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What is the tuning on that instrument?

E0 standard

really? i just said a random chord but ok

>not G

Misssd opportunity.

what guitar is that in the pic?

ESP Mustang-II Hina Hirasawa signature ver, featured in the hit anime Boku No Pico.

like i said notheory, im just going by what i hear jej. didn't sound awful to me

one day /gg/ will decide what it is

30 year old boomers gloating about their wealth
or 20 year old zoomers so bitter about being poor that they think everything that costs money is for faggots

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25 year old bzoomers who think things that cost money are for faggots while owning nice things anyways.

I think it's some sort of superstrat

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Not bad for a little jam/practice. It’s like classic rock mixed with a stoner vibe

Fuck these birches. You play with the tempo 80% of the time which is better than most people who are self taught. It was a cool jam

What are you going to play on it?

Do it

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chuck berry peed on hookers lol

Fuck off and practice your drums, lars.

Proof? Were they white?

>he doesn't know about efukt

>You play with the tempo 80% of the time
lmao Lord have mercy

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what kind of amp do you guys use
>Peavey Vypyr VIP 3
which pedals do you use
>lol
what genre do you mostly play
>Southern Rock and Hardcore

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I know about it, doesn't mean I've seen every single video on it.

>he hasn't seen and jerked off to every single video at least twice
fucking normals i swear to god

>jcum thinks you can excuse playing completely out of time as 'playing with the tempo 80% of the time'

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>have 1959 Gibson les paul standard (the real thing, not the reissue)
>cover the Gibson logo with duct tape to protest them
what kind of a message would this send if the holy grail of all guitars was used against them?
bias fx 2
bias fx 2
Little bit of everything

>>Peavey Vypyr VIP 3
any experience or opinion on the VIP 1? I'm looking for my first amp and this looks like one of the few budget options geared towards metal

tfw u can afford better guitars but have to buy a shitplank beginner tier one because u have just started and not 100% certain you will like the better guitar

And they played videogame metal covers and prog?

I dunno, I wanted to buy VIP 1 at first, but bought VIP 3 cus' the store didn't had it but they had VIP 3 and sold it with s discount too. I've had it for more than a year, and it's good. Now only if I could finaly get that Explorer.

>Pedalfags

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It's a iii I II in c lydian

The answer is tortoiseshell

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Why do companies like Fender have all of those inbetween models? Might as well jump up to the next model each time.
The only thing worth buying are the MIMs or American Elite.

That Pacifica is vintage white.
The players are polar white and I’m not sure how to make it less grotesque, it’s just so harsh with everything since it’s not Olympic white.

any guitars with white body and gold pick guard

J mascis jazzmaster

looks pretty cool, thanks dude

Favella Sambomaster.
But really, that's a color combination for nogs

Yea and that’s based as fuck

>I don’t know what he’s talking about because I’m THE GUITARIST and I just play over the drums
Imagine being this retarded

I win.

>hey I’m gonna shred for this section and then sweep pick a minor dimished 7th chord
>just sounds like beeps and hoops only lanklet fags like

Post what you have. If it’s mindless metal chugging/shredding/sweep picking your a fag

They know what people want and having a guitar at every price point means that they at least have a chance at getting those dollars over another company. Business 101 nig

Gay as aids

>justinguitar
Why is that guy always recommended for beginners? This guy teaches people to play chords right away without teaching them about basic theory like scales, like "make this shape with your fingers and press on the strings here and this is an A minor chord" LMAO

>He's just an attention whore who has nothing going on worth paying attention to I'm afraid. That's why he has to make a spectacle of himself, it's the only way he can get anybody to notice him.
accurate

Yeah, that's just one genre.

What do you guys think of Dr.No effects?

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Guitars are fantastic

Yeah, not when they're condor shitplanks, sambo

>rent free

That's good, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to afford it, Sambo

I win.

I went ahead and shelled out the 90 bucks for Bias FX 2 and I have to say it was worth it. Way better than the shitty little practice amp I have or even the pirated copy of Bias Amp I was using.

bait but he's fine
there's a reason he has endorsements from actual guitarists

>teaching them about basic theory like scales
nice way to discourage most beginners

Certainly not money

You lose.

I only like to play minor blues though... And it was all in the blues scale. And can you explain to me the theory behind why it was wrong please.I didnt deviate But now i see im deficient in major blues scales,incidentally do you reckon major blues scale is good for country leads?

If you are so much of an instant-gratification-craving ADHD ooh-ooh ah-ah monkey that having to learn the ABC of guitar discourages you then music isn't the right hobby for you.

Dont worry the anons that dont post their playing or only do cover songs dont phase me. That was a first take improv i recorded on both. I have a knack for chord prediction (or ive just subconsciously memorized every blues cadence)
Im writing something for /gg/ . to test my composition as well. Its gonna be a heavy song but not strictly metal.

Also how was my tone. It was american pro strat into ampire in daw

Dont get the first generation of any modelling amp. Look into line 6 vetta ii

Stupid. You should have bought something midrange then. You wont realize until you get the basics down and then play a nice guitar that your shitplank is holding you back and making it harder for you

Any Jacksonfags here? I'm trying to figure out what this guitar might be worth.

It was part of a limited run of 500 or something from about a decade ago. I've made about $100 worth of mods to it (DiMarzio X2N and PAF Pro), but still have all the original parts.

I bought it for around $600 and have lately seen people selling it for a range of prices. So any help would be appreciated.

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>I have a knack for chord prediction (or ive just subconsciously memorized every blues cadence)
Now this is delusion done right

I dont know who you are but youre a savage(in a good way not in a sambo way). Keep up the fight dawg. One of 3 things will happen eventually:
1) Sambo doxes himself unknowingly
2) Sambo kills himself over online bullying.
3) Sambo leaves for good

kek jcum is dunning kruger personified

I dont know what fucking chords are in the backgroubd i just play them. What dont you understand about first take improv?

>I dont know what fucking chords are
Obviously

>i-it's the guitar that's shitty, not me, I-I swear

Who are you quoting?

Pure gold.

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Tell the truth jcum, you legitimately think everyone who shits on you about you being a bad guitar player is wrong don't you? You actually think you're decent, don't you?

Fender Deluxe or Player?
Deluxe has locking tuners, noiseless pickups and I'm not sure what else and if it's worth the minor extra cost.

>I dont know what fucking chords are in the backgroubd
Yeah, we can hear that.

Better than you.

lads what size picks is good to start with?
tortex or nylons?

64 Silvertone 1484
Holy Grail, Phase 90, Tube Screamer
Prog Rock

Fender Heavy

In other words, yes. You really do believe you're a real player. Understand what I'm about to say and understand that I'm not joking or kidding around when I tell you this: you're not good. You're not even decent. Especially considering your age.

I've taken kids and had them playing better than you do in less than a year. I'm talking about thirteen and fourteen year old kids here, not thirty year old men. Never mind where I had them by the time they were sixteen or seventeen. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that you're a knowledgeable or proficient musician but you're not. You don't even seem to be able to count which is one of the most rudimentary steps required to play music. What difference does it make that you have no idea what notes you're trying to play when you can't even tap your foot in 4/4 rhythm?

Nobody here is lying, bullshitting, or trolling you when they're telling you you're shit because you are indeed shit. You're a beginner, that's where you are. It's time you took the reality pill on your lack of ability. This is as an honest assessment of your playing as you're ever going to get here.

Go sign up for some entry level guitar lessons, jcum. You desperately need some.

He really does think he's good. He doesn't seem to be able to count time or even hear bum notes.

>country of origin
Upgrades add nothing to the value, If you paid 600 new and it's a Jap/korean/indo plank, it's worth about half. So $300 retail, even less on trade.

reverb.com/item/21288593-jackson-mij-limited-run-rr3-randy-rhoads-v-2006-ivory-w-black-pinstripes-gold-hardware

Never considered a reverb pedal before, as my amp already has a pretty good spring reverb. This one however is slowly convincing me that a reverb pedal is what I need in my life right now.
What should I do, /gg/? You decide for me.

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>tfw you're still terrible at guitar but you feel at least better than jcum
just for laughs I uploaded this piece of shit "first take improv" I made a couple weeks ago. it's pretty terrible, but the question is: am I at least more musical than jcum?

instaud.io/40Q0

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I'm not sure where he's getting the notion from. He lives in a ghetto close to Los Angeles by his own admission, all it'd take would be for him to go down to the closest Guitar Center on Saturday morning and get absolutely smoked by some amazing local guitarist once or twice to knock the ridiculous idea clear out of his tiny brown head.

The fact that he hasn't already done this and spends every waking moment in /gg/ instead indicates he's a coward hiding out here and he's not interested in actually accomplishing anything worthwhile or progressing. A loser of the highest order in other words.

I own it and I love it. The dream setting is beautiful if you want some modverb, and you can turn the suboctave setting down to get some normal verb, which is pretty spring/hall verb like if you dial back the delay. plus the filter is super nice to have. I use the other features too but those are my main two uses.

Got enough reverb?

no lie, i have this on my cart right now. Selling my rv-6 for this baby.

I play bass primarily and I regularly go to blues jams out in public. I learn most of the songs on the fly.
Even if I don't hit a single wrong note or play completely in time, there's still some form of criticism waiting for me.
I can only imagine what musicians at a real blues jam would say to Jcum.

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I've been thinking about putting some on the bass and then the master tack actually, then playing it in a church and getting a room capture off a condenser mic and and putting maybe just one last spring reverb on it.

I feel most of us could noodle on this and be more musical than jcum

Nice

>spring reverb as a general reverb
These things sound piercingly bright. Good for surf or staccato playing but it really blurs the signal as an all purpose pedal.

That's it. I'm gettin me wallet.

Can someone here create a wiring diagram for me?

there are a lot of resources just figure it out

Here you go

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gotta give more details. what are you trying to do?

savage

kek friendly reminder that r psyoped the wetback so hard that he thinks everyone who says he sucks is one person

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SAMBO

The replies to this post have been entirely unsurprising.

Guitar?

how do you bend harmonics without a wang bar? have you heard of van halen and how influential he was on a large genre called heavy metal?

Hagstrom Viking or a Powerhouse Strat (with flatwounds) depending on the tone I want

My all-time-favorite slice of jcum cope was when he lost that guitar duel and mumbled something about taking risks as an excuse for not being able to play in key.

link? I missed that

I didn't save it. Someone here has it and posts it fairly regularly.

Wait who was he dueling?
Was it kakafag?
Was it Smug animefag?
Was it SAMBO?
Was it always posts the neckless bass body fag?

Pretty sure it was Sammy. jcope lost hard.

Sambito rojo

Pretty sure the dude you're responding to is just afraid of theory. Every person I've ever taught I have started off with the chromatic scale and then moved on to diatonic scales. It might be the fact that they've all been over 12 years old but they've all gotten it and been better off for it.

kek i found it

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Ha, love it.

When was the last time you genuinely practiced guitar? I'm not talking about picking it up and strumming a few chords of a song you already know. I'm talking about actual practice with different modes, chord progressions and general technique/licks exercises.
I mean, you don't actually claim you play guitar just so you can shitpost on /gg/, do you?

I practice every day, and I'll suck forever.

Holy shit that's hilarious.

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stop with all this butt hurt cope shit and worry about how you practice instead of us faggot. it doesn't matter how much i practice or don't it won't make you any better a player you stupid ass hole

Sambito rojo

Post your playing. I'm not the guy you're replying to but just going by your tone I'm pretty much certain that you're a colossal LARPer.

>jcope over9000

We can't hear your playing, mate.
About 30 minutes ago.

feast your eyes on the most brutal jcum take down of all time

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ok fags. Fender Duo-sonic 2018
300€
y/n?

Country of origin?

Lmfao ok? But will it bring back pops

Savage

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>worry about how you practice
But I do. I'm just curious if y'all do the same or if I'm the only getting some actual work done here.
At least now I know there are some, although few, serious guitar players in here.

EL Mexico

Point out something in my post that's incorrect and we'll go from there.

Pretty amateur when it comes to theory and just been learning about the keys of a song. Am I right in saying that it works if chord progression, lead and bass riff are in a key, any notes will work? Eg in the Key of G, a bass line can utilise Em, lead plays a solo in Bm it will work?

Last night. I've been picking a backing track of a song that I'm familiar with, but haven't played before, and then try to figure it out by ear.
It's been kinda fun

oof
post vocaroo of out of time playing and obviously wrong notes

You answered while I was asleep. Anyways, with this information I can now answer your question:
>Can you tell me why though so i can work on it?
The reason is because you lack talent. I could play better blues less than a month after picking up the guitar.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

No?

Your post is opinion and personal anecdotes you think we should believe for no reason at all. So no, I don't think I will point out something which is incorrect because the knowledge of that is between you and your god. Just post some improv and shut me up.

any math/emo boys wanna do hammer ons and jerk each other off and cum onto our single coils

>coping this hard
Just get some lessons, jcope.

This. There are all kinds of people who learn do things perfectly in less than 10 years: doctors, scientists, architects, etc. Imagine a student who's been in medical school for a year who could barely suture up a wound. What kind of undisciplined failure of a student would find that outcome acceptable? There's a process and there are steps to learning, that's what learning is. There's a point where you either shit or get off the pot, apparently jcum's too dense to get that.
Right, so nothing I said was incorrect. In other words you have no legitimate argument with the substance of my post so you're trying to move the goalposts to something entirely irrelevant to the facts at hand.

He's such a
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But I'm not him?

I think you're 100% correct, but I still want to hear you play

Get some lessons, acope.

>What kind of undisciplined failure of a student would find that outcome acceptable? There's a process and there are steps to learning, that's what learning is.
I'll add that I'm self-taught, too, and very undisciplined. I've never really followed a learning process. I was still a lot better at blues than that after a month of playing. He has absolutely no talent.

Great, what I said was accurate by your own admission so there's nothing else that needs to be added then.

You don't know whether you're him or not? Sounds like you need therapy homie

>Right, so nothing I said was incorrect. In other words you have no legitimate argument with the substance of my post so you're trying to move the goalposts to something entirely irrelevant to the facts at hand.

What are you even talking about you larping faggot? "I'm a great player and you can't prove me wrong because I refuse to provide any evidence to neither confirm nor deny"

What's your problem, man? You suck at the instrument so you've gotta come online and be a sour little bitch about it? Your post reads like fiction, man. The only reason no one else calls you out on it is because /gg/ is just filled to the fucking brim with posers like you.

This a suspiciously personal reaction to someone calling jcope out for having shitty playing. Jcum being shit at guitar isn't exactly a controversial viewpoint.

>Key of G major
>Bass is in e minor
>Guitar is in b minor
Lolwut

Rent free like frozen kaka in pops decomposing asshole

K

Just play something, you fucking faggot

E natural minor and G melodic major are comprised of the same notes, so that part at least makes sense.

They cant. Im the best player until proven otherwise. And im not even that good

You seem to think you're in an argument. You're not. You're upset? Your feelings are hurt? I don't know. I don't really care either.

My post was correct. But by all means, feel free to correct where it's not.

i have seen the light
single coil SSS strats should be maple neck only

I mean technically you can, because I recorded everything in that over like 20 minutes. I just had the reverb too high :3

I don't know why someone who apparently isn't jcope is taking your criticism so personally. As stated earlier, everyone here agrees that he's shit.

So close, user. It's actually,
>Strats should be SSS and maple neck only

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Thinking about getting true temperament frets for my Strat

what's wrong with rosewood?

MY MAN
I just want olympic white to match the maple and it is impossible to find on a "good" mint/new strat under 1k

I wouldn't do it if you don't have another gig-ready guitar in case you decide you want to do some shit like exotic tunings/string gauges which aren't compatible with those frets.

for jazzmasters

That won't be an issue, it isn't my main guitar

I don't know why he'd get all bent out of shape anyway, I literally invited him to tell me where I was wrong. His issue certainly stems from the fact that I'm not wrong and he knows it.

Studio or live use?

Studio

>And im not even that good
kek looks like you guys got through to him

IMPOSSIBRU

Aren't Em and Bm in the key of G?

B major is in the key of G major.

Depends, you can still create dissonant intervals like a minor second between B and C. Are you talking about just arpeggiating the chords within the scale? With Bm and Em you can get a minor second between F# and G. The extension range of your chords will also be restricted if you strictly want to remain in that key. Bmin9 includes a C# which is not in the G major scale. It would imply G Lydian. These are things that you just have to hear a lot of times. I wouldn't get caught up too much in this very theoretical realm. What sounds good is good. Theory can help a lot when roadblocks occur or if you have something very specific in mind.

That is incorrect. Diatonically, the iii chord in the key of G Major is B minor. With a flat 9, and flat 13, to boot. B Phrygian is the diatonic tonality of the iii chord in the key of G Major.

I wish rich countries didn't keep me poor

nerd

I bet jcum is that dumbfuck who says good players don't need frets to hit high notes

Yeah, my bad. I mixed up D and B.

You missed this though
>They cant. Im the best player until proven otherwise
He really believes he's the best player here. This is a childish person who's unwilling to learn or heed valid instruction which is perfectly reflected in his playing. But this is why he comes here, he's not seeking any kind of challenge or avenue to improvement. He's here to avoid all that, this is his safe space where he comes to hide. Or at least that's what he's trying to do anyway. He's mistaken but he really believes he's the big dog in /gg/.

But in reality he's a coward. Plain and simple.

so you buy more guitars in an upgrade chain

they specify to the employees that everything cheaper than their most expensive MIA guitar is to be slightly worse. worse wood, lacking features, worse finish, worse pickups. so then they make all these guitars and the idea is that you will start on the cheapest and buy each and every one as you get better and more "worthy" or something like what this guy is doing they also have paid advertisements saying that the cheaper guitars are good enough, but they aren't, they are meant to leave you wanting more

you can beat the jews by saving up about $1000 or $1500 (a pretty trivial amount of money for an item that lasts a lifetime) and just buying the guitar you want in the first place. get it from a place with a good return policy.

I win.

Honestly don't

It'll still be slightly out of tune due to your own finger pressure, especially on chords and bends will be pretty fucked (different shift in pitch for each string on each fret for the same distance)

Despite modern manufacturing tech allowing for them to made cheaply they still haven't caught on for a reason

new

how would you know what you want to start with in the first place if you didn't know how to play or what styles you'll enjoy?

I love it when Pink Suhr turns up and roflstomps everyone.

Guitar choice doesn't limit genre, amp choice does

And what type of guitar you like is actually just the type you learn on anyways. All those greats who swear by strats grew up playing strats. That's why they fucking like them.

If you're so uncertain try some stuff out in guitar center. You can play literally all day there.

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Yeah but why would your guitarist be thinking on terms of b minor while your bassist is outlining an e minor chord.

Unless you guys are on some hip jazz shit. Did I misread the crowd here? Is everyone here an advanced jazz player?

What's wrong if the bass player plays with an Em? If it's in the key what's the issue? Genuine question

>If you don't know what styles you'll enjoy?
Why do you even want to play guitar in the first place if you don't know this?

He's confusing scales and triads, and now thinks that because a Bm and Em triad are acceptable within G Ionian, you can also play all the notes of B Aeolian and E Aeolian if you're playing in G Ionian.

I don't know what you mean by "plays with an Em".

He doesn't either, as described here:

I mean say if the bass line follows the Em pentatonic scale

>enjoy/want to play a range of music
>like how strats look but acknowledge that there are many better guitars out there for the same price point
>for the same price point, these are all "metal" guitars

It's not the "(E minor) (pentatonic scale)" it's the "(E) (minor pentatonic scale)"

you know a metal guitar adds to, but doesn't take away from what you can do. but they to tend to have a very bright and twangy tone.

it's the metalhead player that's self limiting

I know you get what I mean.

Superstrats are the conclusion to the guitar. Just play them clean and get a hardtail.

Sorry what do you mean about the player that's limiting?

I obviously don't have a developed ear but it seems that these also sound thin and icepick like which I dislike. I looked at equivalent priced charvels and everything was better like the roasted neck, small things like glowing inlays, and playability differences, also has humbuckers which are probably useful if I'm a genre tourist.
It just seems like there's so much more for my money with anything that's not a Fender but I don't fully enjoy the sounds and I really hate the looks. The only reason I can consider charvel anyway are because they are pretty close to a fender.

Not really. I mean the answer is "yes, you can play in b minor over an e minor chord in g major" buy if you're just starting out that's not how you should be thinking about it.

How should I be thinking about it? Keys are confusing t bh

Just put passive pickups in the metal guitar and you have a non metal guitar. That's really the only difference. I was watching this Paul Simon concert with my dad and one of the guitarists was playing a fucking Ibanez. It doesn't matter as much as you think it does.

My bad, I responded to the wrong person.

If you're a beginner soloist and you're in the key of g major, just play in g major.

>get a hardtail

Never

*amateurish steve vai licks*

It sounds like you just don't want a strat. You don't want to play one and you don't like how they sound, you just think they look cool.

Also all of your tone comes from the amplifier and pickup combination. For example the EMG 81, the definitive metal pickup, will sound extremely heavy on the middest mids, compressed, and a tad bright. A fender amp will make that worse but a "metal" amp like mesa dual rectifier will make it sound a lot thicker and bassier, even clean, with pre-scooped high mids and slightly elevated highs.

Having an EQ pedal throws this out the window though

Also an EMG81 will compress more the more it runs out of battery. it's a very dated pickup. they released the EMG 81X to solve a lot of its problems.