Yui's guitar cost 29000 yen. It was not a genuine Gibson. It was a knock off, because Japan doesn't give a shit.
Levi Johnson
i want this thing so fucking bad but they're out of production and apparently there are only TWO of these on sale on the web and they're both BLACK which isn't nearly as sexy as this white boy
really want to learn how to play guitar, couple of questions. Should i go for lessons? if so where? What type guitar should i buy? I have experience in playing piano pretty casually and self taught, and im not sure if i should go for an acoustic or electric. somone help me out?
Christopher Lee
Seems like a cool pedal. I'm planning on selling my fuzz factory to fund a new fuzz since it's a beast to tame sometimes.
>damn, that .gif makes me look like a badass >i sure showed those nerds >Yea Forums.org
Take three lessons and teach yourself the rest unless you're incapable of self motivation, only go back for occasional lessons with a competent, accomplished guitarist You should buy a guitar that costs at least $500 and isn't made in indonesia or china so you don't get stuck with a piece of shit It doesn't matter which one you learn on, but always buy used because you won't know what you really like until a few months later and then you'll want to sell everything
should i buy the guitar first? as well as should i just head to my local music store to ask for lessons?
Brandon Brown
Buy the guitar first, and then buy the amp by trying it out with the guitar you just bought.
Ryder Ramirez
>taking random lessons
search for someone who's actually good who can teach you something, don't risk possibly taking lessons from a self taught rocker who can only play thrash metal covers
>So dude what kind of songs do you like to play >uh, oasis? >Slayer it is
Brody Peterson
if im looking for used should am i looking at something like craigslist or facebook? or do music shops have used sounds good brother
Jack Torres
Reverb
Connor Harris
is there a way to get reverb to deliver to the post office instead of my house dont wanna get fucked by package thieves while i'm at work
Get a G&L. Their Tribute series guitars are solid and affordable.
Daniel Cooper
Only Ran is good enough, obviously.
Adam Wood
Don't listen to this loser, get something with 24 frets or you'll regret it.
Robert Martin
You don't need 24 frets. >b-but I need it to play this one song like it is on the album Only faggots play the same song/solo the same way twice.
Jaxon Fisher
Maybe you don't even need 20, most people only need 12. But you don't lose anything by having 24. >gimping your guitar for no reason No, you can't tell the difference between the neck pickup tones either.
Jacob White
just hesitant to blow a bunch of money on something im brand new too yenno g&l is more what i was thinking should i go with that?
Isaac Wright
if you don't fret with your thumb there is no reason for you not to play an eight string
you weren't taking advantage of the narrower neck of a six string in the first place, might as well have more bass notes
Pro-tip: 24 fret guitars are for wannabe meal/shred babbys who want to play fast but aren't skilled enough to manipulate the whammy bar or the jerk the string up and nail that high E or B when the run calls for it. >literally training wheels for plebes who can't play for shit You can spot the tryhards every time: their guitar has two extra frets that they wouldn't need if they could actually play.
What if you want to hit the high E without a bend effect
What if the song calls for a high E in rapid sequence with other notes
What if you want your neck pickup to be less muddy
Jason Ward
Ask me how I know you're a brown tryhard
Brayden Torres
24 fret guitars are popular, therefore they are bad. I only like electric blues by the way. I liked it AFTER it was cool, plebs. You're all tryhards for liking popular things.
Steve Vai actually knows how to play guitar, actually has sex with women, and actually has money. He has 24 frets. You just post pictures of frogs on an anime forum, are a 20+ year old virgin if you didn't lose it to a fat prostitute, and live with your parents. You say 24 fret guitars are for tryhards because you're jelly.
If trying hard gets you more money, more women, and out of your mom's basement then not being a tryhard is fucking pathetic.
Matthew Young
>Steve Vai lmao literally who?
Ryder Nelson
If you play anything but classic rock and blues on a classic american made guitar you are an NPC.
>Run program: be special >look, i am futuristic >my guitar has more frets >my gutiar has more coils >i am better >run program: first pentatonic box shred
People with souls play with soul. People without souls play metal and jazz fusion. If it was good enough for the people who invented electric guitar, it's good enough for me. Shredder shit was good enough for a bunch of losers who did drugs and lived in vans.
>he's been playing for more than two years and still can't write an original song >he's been playing for more than one year and can still only play covers of other peoples songs >he's been playing for over two years and still can't figure out how to play a song by ear >he posts videos of himself playing guitar on YouTube >he's over 22 years old and still isn't in a band playing original music >he plays covers at the local open mic night or at a local bar >he's been playing for over two years and his main electric costs less than $700 >he's been playing for over four years and his main acoustic costs less than $1500 >he spends his time ogling gear instead of practicing & playing
There's more but if any of the above describes you then you need to move on to a more suitable hobby like playing videogames or something similar. You're doing a disservice to the instrument and music in general by insisting on engaging in a pursuit you don't have the emotional or intellectual capacity for.
imagine how much more popular piano players would be if they stopped showing off like a bunch of tryhards and made some actual good music with normal notes. this is why guitarists get laid and pianists don't.
also if you play guitar and aren't playing gigs with a band and getting laid you are fucking worthless. quit music.
>Fun fact #1: most keyboards only come with 61 keys instead of the full 88 like a piano (and sometimes 76 on occasion)
>Fun fact #2: most classically trained pianists rarely play more than 44 out of those 61 keys.
>Fun fact #3: most current MIDI controllers now come with less than 44 keys, instead they come with 37 because that's all most aspiring songwriters require to write songs with nowadays!
pic related it's you >DOES NOT COMPUTE >I WAS PROGRAMMED TO THINK THAT ROCK STARS ARE COOL
performing artists are all retards. get a real career. playing music is a hobby. record it and sell it on the side at the most.
rock stars by merit aren't real, the recording industry execs (who make even more money) just pick a guy at random and market the fuck out of him. if you learn to produce music you have more money making potential than someone who merely plays it. most "stars" don't even write their own songs and they definitely don't record them. behind every great act and rich faggot is a smart act and an even richer faggot.
Lucas Walker
>Counterpoint: Songs nowadays suck, they sound like ditties from kids shows but with more bass and lyrics about sharing hos instead of sharing toys
People in their teens have been saying this ever since the african element got too african.
>young man yells at niggers
Jose Turner
>pic related it's you >DOES NOT COMPUTE >I WAS PROGRAMMED TO THINK THAT ROCK STARS ARE COOL >performing artists are all retards. get a real career. playing music is a hobby. record it and sell it on the side at the most. >rock stars by merit aren't real, the recording industry execs (who make even more money) just pick a guy at random and market the fuck out of him. if you learn to produce music you have more money making potential than someone who merely plays it. most "stars" don't even write their own songs and they definitely don't record them. behind every great act and rich faggot is a smart act and an even richer faggot.
I want to compose some jazz-inspired indie rock. The only bands I know that do something like that are Morphine and Karate, but I don't really like how they sound.
Any ideas? I'm thinking that getting some very jazzy drumming is fundamental in this, the rest could be kinda secondary.
Brandon Garcia
Everyone ITT
>trust me, i'm an anonymous loser but i'm really smart
Small time pros carry a head around and use cabs at the venue, and sometimes use what the guys they're opening for are using or just set their own amps on top and swap the speaker cables around.
That's why they do dumb shit like make amps without a speaker pre-attached, in case you were wondering what the point is.
Gavin Thompson
Mexican Fender
Michael Myers
i know a tranny who plays an MIM tele
he says it's nice because it's stylish, girly, and only costed $500 so he had money left over for estrogen
also that tranny is me
try again
Tyler Ramirez
Heads also cost less than combos so you can buy one cab, usually a 2x12 with multiple wiring options, and then save money if you're a recording artist and want multiple amps
Dominic Bennett
I just bring my Akai MPC X to the recording session like Mayer
Ethan Morgan
As a shitty guitarist with two weeks of experience and no desire to play anything but power chords, why would I buy a guitar worth more than $700?
Surely my epiphone is good enough. Only real talents play real gibsons.
If you want to work in the disposable pop industry that's the ticket, yes. The best part is you keep working because they need to churn that shit out, there aren't any residuals for songs people forget about in two months!
Easton Cook
The SE in PRS SE stands for "student edition". That should tell you all you need to know about guitar price brackets.
John Lewis
Is there something like reverb.com, but European? I'm looking for some pedals that aren't usually sold in Europe (mostly Electro Faustus and Dwarfcraft), but the fucking postage alone is like $50 from USA, and that's not counting the VAT and fees...
Alexander Stewart
>Only real talents play real gibsons tru dat homie
yeah imagine arguing over fret counts have you ever seen an accomplished musician give a shit about that and start flinging shit like they have the holy number of frets? no. have you ever seen an accomplished musician like anime shit? no.
Angel Ross
I've never seen an accomplished musician who wasn't paid off endorse new-production gibsons either.
Ayden Myers
I win.
David Lewis
>have you ever seen an accomplished musician like anime shit?
is the roland micro cube gx a decent amp for metal
Sebastian Long
try them all out, lemme know when you exhausted your options over mostly total shit gear
Dylan Butler
>muh Amerimutt made guitar
Charles Lopez
The riffing on Altars has more soul than all of the collective years of your playing, dweeb
Angel Robinson
That's actually some pretty fucking good gear except for the JCM900s, that autistic star thing, and those two green retards guitars (figures they're related)
Bentley Barnes
kek
Julian Baker
i went up till just before my level 2 certificate exam. when to an actual music shop (that used conservatory standard teachers) it wasnt cheap but i overtook my friends on ability in about 1 year. theyve never caught up through self learning and they all bad habits & have shit technique. i would get lessons just to learn proper technique and smash out bad habits early. do it if not a poorfag
Matthew Wood
Late 2000s and early 10s were such cancer, holy shit
Josiah Richardson
What was the curriculum like? Many classical pieces?
Gabriel Edwards
something makesme think its part of ESP company shilling. notable absence ibanez, ESP the company hates Ibanez. Its pretty ovbious bullshit marketing. i like & have owned both guitars types btw.
Christian Myers
everyone hates ibanez
David Johnson
how do play jazz chord
Kayden Bennett
>ESP logo on headstocks >ESP makes custom models for the show >Gibson Les Paul has a blank headstock
based nips turning down gibson money
Kayden Foster
Step 1 don't call them jazz chords unless you want to look like some instagram tool
i'm saying /gg/ is the only place on the internet where people are this autistic
and it's mostly one guy, maybe two, and i'm pretty sure they take both sides in the argument out of boredom/autism
Daniel Williams
mixed. plus i have used 4 different teachers over the years. beginner (qualified teacher), then blues/country (for songwriting & advanced fingerpicking - also qualified teacher) , then one to learn shred/lead (he could play satriani, vai & van halen licks flawlessly), and lastly a really old dude who taught me slide technique. the last dude was really old guy who i approached after watching his blues gig . he initially declined but kept my phone number & then months later changed his mind. a six pack of beer to his place was payment. he was a pretty cool old guy in his late 60s
Jayden Garcia
It’s okay it’s irony. Seriously though, what’s the best way to learn all these chord voicings? I have the theoretical knowledge and everything except the knowledge of chord voicings on the neck of the guitar.
Owen King
dang dawg did you forget to take your schizo pills again
Wyatt Perry
>everyone >looks around parents basement just you desu
Isaiah Ward
where's the guy who dips his guitar in oil to tighten his strings?
Tape delays, like the CopiCat? That kind of thing? Or old school strobe tuners. The only thing I ever remember seeing on top of an amp was cigarettes and lighters, lines of coke/speed, and picks. Maybe a slide, or capo.
Noah Barnes
I just measured the action on my high and its 3 mm, should I lower it? I've been playing like this for over a year
Ryder Rodriguez
without memeing about poorfags or brands and whatever is it probably a bad idea to start with an expensive used guitar? I can’t help but feel that it is and in real life nobody does that and I just get memed
how much difference is really between a squier and high end fender? Any shit that I will care about at all in my first year or two? Everyone seems to have problems with the trems just falling off and being shit but it can’t be that bad to a noob.
I keep looking at a used american pro thinking it’s a great deal because it’s 1000 instead of 1400 but at the end of the day it’s still fucking 1000 when I have never touched a string in my life
Grayson Miller
lmao can't take you reddit spacers seriously at all
Brayden Myers
i assume you're looking at a strat? just buy a MIM (made in mexico) strat and you'll be fine for years.
Austin Long
Epiphone Getting in touch with your feminine side is a good thing
Brayden Richardson
This guy was drunk retard who knew how to play 4 notes and yell into a mic. He does poor and friendless
Jonathan Perez
just get a used korean schecter for like 300 bucks. you know the koreans make good stuff
David Bell
I made that pic implying they use whatever stock cab those come with
Gabriel Martinez
>how much difference is really between a squier and high end fender? Any shit that I will care about at all in my first year or two?
No. But you should be a student classical guitar. Reddit spacing is two line breaks.
Sebastian Jenkins
lol you wanted to have a BIG post everyone would notice i get it
Jace Peterson
You can think so if that makes you feel good, mate.
Lincoln Watson
>*fart noise* lol loud and clear captian
Jack Peterson
lol
Jose Sullivan
Why classical
Nathaniel Ward
Come again fucking retard. I bet your mom doesnt even love you as much as treys mom loves him
S A M B O A M B O
Chase Cooper
S A M B I T O A M B I T O
Michael Jackson
>this is jcum's life at 6am
Colton Thomas
S A M B O A M B O
Isaiah Wood
probably a bad idea to buy an expensive guitar before you know what kind of guitar you like
Jackson Fisher
Next up >chasing down the roach coach for breakfast ¡Ay, caramba!
Blake Martin
that’s what I mean so is it a bad idea to do that? right now I just think oh a strat looks cool, everyone tells me they’re versatile, I see them a lot and that’s why I just figure that an expensive strat will be 100% fine
Jonathan Fisher
My must have pedals: >delay >compressor >looper >reverb >chorus >fuzz >wah >booster >overdrive >tremolo
What are yours?
Benjamin Barnes
kek all i need is a guitar cable wtf is your problem
Michael Johnson
There was a guitar for sale on Craigslist that I really wanted to buy for 650. It was up for a few weeks, but I was just a little too late and someone else got it. Seller told me it's the local guitar company. The instrument needs some work, including a new pick guard and a good polish and setup. I think they're planning on selling it for about 1k. Would it be unreasonable for me to call the guitar company and offer 700 as is? Its an old Taylor from the first California workshop and it's supposed to sounds great.
Samuel Gonzalez
Dont forget the KAKA you use on your cable tips. After a long session of stuffing kaka in your dads decomposing asshole its impossible to not get some kaka under your fingernails.
Matthew Cruz
As low as it gets without fretbuzz
Oliver Morgan
>All I need More like all you can afford S A M b o A M b o
Nathan Taylor
Good evening /gg/! This is my Squier. Say something nice about her!
>this much good advice in one post Get the fuck out of my /gg/.
Josiah Myers
Why not just a plexi? Is my first thought
Colton Ortiz
Yeah, reverb.com. People use it to sell stuff in Europe, too.
Bentley Phillips
Best modern brand bass to compliment my ibanez prestige for my solo metal recordings? No boomer shit
Joshua Wright
You might discover that a Les Paul is your One True Guitar after playing for a few months. Or just replace 'Les Paul' with anything that isn't a strat.
Owen Long
Because I don't want a plexi and it doesn't sound like a plexi.
Adrian Gray
wow. hahahaha and thats why i love the general fully blown imbecile advice always on offer
Thomas Price
You'll need some strings to play it.
Lucas Reed
dont forget to also dip your guitar in oil
Carter Ross
No need, I constantly exude a thick layer from my pores.
Isaiah Price
Pretty sure thats why that whole brand exists
Juan Foster
S A M B O A M B O
Isaiah Wright
Cool. You heard one?
Jordan Brown
Yea
Isaiah Carter
Did you think it sounded like a plexi?
Mason Sanders
Yea
Easton Richardson
Great, that means you can get away with a plexi. I can hear the difference, so I'm considering this.
That's a really odd coincidence; Sammy has the same IQ as a potato chip.
Andrew Murphy
It's a brand of brazilian potato tard dumbass around here, so I guess you are right
Jackson Cooper
Friedman will have more gain. Theyre like modded marshalls. This guy gets Eagles tone. youtu.be/xTpcs9ny3bg
Caleb Bell
Otae has the best Rock setup. Lock has the best Djent setup. Kaoru's White Falcon is classy as fuck.
Jace Perry
Ah, student gauges
Wyatt Parker
youre making me hungry desu
Cooper Walker
True, they're like modded Marshalls, but a Dirty Shirley Mini sounds nothing like a plexi. It's more like a JTM45 with contemporary levels of gain and a really aggressive attack. Apparently it's a modified JCM800 preamp hooked up to a JTM45 power amp, with the latter changed to a silicon rectifier EL84 design in the Mini version. All of which is why it doesn't sound like a plexi.
Colton Sanders
magnetic pole pieces unadjusted - check this must sound like a POS
Austin Ward
Pretty sure the nut is only set up for 9s
Asher Mitchell
What would be a good electric guitar for someone who wants to play Metallica, Megadeth, Alice in Chains, Pearl jam etc.? I've been playing acoustic for 6 months but I really want an electric guitar that looks cool and sounds good, I wouldn't mind my budget being around €700 for one that would last me a while
Look into the dave mustaine Dean guitars. Theres some nice ones and he personally vouches for the quality.
Owen Miller
Thanks for the reply, are they the v shaped guitars? I'd kinda prefer to get one not that shape because I heard it would be kind of awkward to learn on
Lincoln Rodriguez
Theres also z shaped
Nolan Nelson
you've won one of the "yikes" offered for this thread
Ryan Anderson
should i get an sg or telecaster next? i have a les paul and a strat
Daniel Sullivan
S A M B O A M B I T O
Matthew Evans
did you know ace frehley is the king of soul?
Sebastian Russell
Fuck off, Sambo, ace is hardly the king of not shitting his own pants
Aaron Walker
Went busking for the first time there. Really tiring work but good fun once you get into it. Made £15 in the hour which was alright given that I was just doing my own songs.
What's everyone's favorite hollow-body guitar? I'm looking for one that sounds cool as fuck through an amp, but also sounds fairly decent unplugged. I think the Godin 5th Avenues look pretty cool.
Jose Ramirez
Dean Palomino
Connor Brown
> Metallica, Alice in Chains, Pearl jam favor les paul type guitars so prolly an eclipse by ltd
Jacob Diaz
A lot of squiers are unironically nicer to play than American fenders. Constant neck radius, satin finish on the neck, lighter bodies(!). Honestly just swap the nut, tuners, and electronics and do a fret level if needed and the only problem will be neck instability (buzz one day none the next).
The next step up are those schecter student-grade guitars. Same deal with the satin finish but a little nicer and the necks are three piece, a feature copped from $3000 ESPs because it's cheaper when not used in a neck-thru guitar, so they don't move as much.
For some reason when you get into high end guitars ever neck is glossy, sometimes actually sticky (nitro finishes), but nothing else improves except for the pickups, tuners, and frets. Sometimes the body wood even gets worse.
>squier >1 piece lightweight popular >american fender >2 pieces heavy alder
Luis Wright
>trying to sell my guitar >mint condition goes around $1100 >great around $1050 >good around $700
If you had a guitar with pic related as the only damage, would you drop it down to "great"?
it’s clearly a different standards thing because I’d put that at good
Christopher Torres
just sell it as reliced
Tyler Walker
Thanks, I'll check it out
Noah Butler
you think more money doesn't get you that much more guitar but the reality is you're beginning to realize that established american brands like fender and gibson think they can get away with more shit because of the name they put on the headstock
Luke Jenkins
Lol hell no. I'd drop it down to 'just fine'. That shit's gonna erode over time unless taken to a professional. In what world is a smashed finish like this "great"?
If I were you I'd just list it for 1000 and see what happens.
John Scott
how do people even abuse their guitars like this
Austin Perry
It's funny how guitarists can't seem to understand that quality of electric instruments are determined almost exclusively by the electronics that go into them. All other musicians understand this perfectly well.
Brody Jenkins
>squiers are unironically nicer to play than American fenders.
If you want a pristine instrument all your life you should be a solo/recording act. a lot of touring artists have started keeping their prized vintage instruments that aren't made that way with that wood anymore in vaults for recording use only.
others tour with them, like this guy, because they're beat up anyways.
Adrian Williams
This guy
>Lol only pickups matter bro >*bzzzt* >Fuck I need to adjust the truss rod again? >wait, no, it looks fine >hold on, it moves if you press on it lightly >hey did that fret pop out? crazy. >give me some glue this happens to every guitar man it's just part of life
electric and bass are for fucking new world fags this was a post by #acousticgang
Hudson Kelly
LGTSS. IMO I think how a guitar feels is more important than how it sounds. If it isn't comfortable to hold and play, you're unmotivated to play it. You can change pickups, hardware, etc to get a good sound but a guitar's feel is set in stone.
Take shit like a LP. It's unbalanced, heavy, clunky as fuck. Basically can't play it sitting down. Even if it's the best sounding guitar in the world, it feels like shit to play.
The quality of an electric instrument, then, is not the electronics. You could take an Epiphone Special 2 and set it up with Gibson standard tuners, bridge, pickups, and it'll still be shit.
Carter Foster
This.
t. nylon
Jack Torres
The bridge, nut, and tuners affect your tone 100x more than wood and are also the primary things affecting tuning stability and string breakage. Wood affects tuning stability if it was not aged properly and overreacts to changes in temperature and humidity. Yes, even the body wood, because that's what the neck is attached to. Finish, neck profile, headstock angle and volute or lack thereof, and body shape affect basic playability.
You get what you pay for but the costs increase faster than the quality.
>brought to you by underage memes
Angel Wood
it takes time to make a neck with level frets
good, hard alloys are more expensive than cheap ones that wear down faster
Noah Barnes
Almost no guitar will be set up properly straight out of the box/bag/case. And I'd almost be impressed if you could find a guitar, these days, of poor enough quality to the point of frets popping out. You don't even have to spend 300 bucks to assure that won't happen. Hell, you can get a squier affinity tele for like 150 bucks and any issue I've heard of people having with those can be solved with a soldering iron.
I'd still be nervous as fuck touring with a guitar like that. Not just for the monetary value, but a guitar played and owned by Peter Green AND Gary Moore?
Henry Bennett
I know what I've got.
Henry Baker
No you don't that's a faggot guitar
Austin Cox
no guitar will be set up out of the box
but not every guitar will hold its setup if the humidity in your house goes up or down by 5%. i had a few MIMs like that. they HAD to be kept in cases. period.
Brayden Gutierrez
And /gg/ is a foul smelling den of contrarian, insecure spergs where everything that isn't a strat, tele, or les paul is for tryhard faggots because your lack of empathy prevents you from understanding that a normal person who doesn't nerd out over the differences between seymour duncans and bare knuckles thinks all electric guitars look and sound the same, and therefore no matter what you show up, even if it's a vintage telecaster, with it's your tried-so-hard-and-fucked-up-so-much playing that will make you look like a faggot.
My last girlfriend thought an ibanez was a telecaster.
Adam Hill
>IMO I think how a guitar feels is more important than how it sounds.
I agree wholeheartedly but it's not as if most guitars aren't near clones of more famous guitars. It's easy to find something fun to play in almost any price range.
Replacing bridge and nut with your choice of material costs like 20 bucks, maximum. Tuning a guitar takes me like 1 minute. To be honest with you I don't think 99% of people who post in /gg/ would be able to tell which is a squier in the 200-300 bucks price range and which is a MIA Fender Telecaster if played through the same amp.
Juan Williams
Yeah well, your guitar is shit, I hope you eat kaka and die
Caleb White
>tuning a guitar takes 1 minute
1 minute is 1/4 of a song sometimes
and shit guitars will go out of tune in the middle of a song
Nicholas Baker
Bridge $50 Nut $5 String trees $5 Tuners $50 Fret job $100 Learning to play with a higher action: Free Not having to get a full time job just to play a half-decent guitar: Priceless
Nothing like living with your parents. You have more time to play.
Noah Ross
>and shit guitars will go out of tune in the middle of a song
A shit guitar, yes. A cheap guitar is not a shit guitar. That 900-3000 USD price hike is 95% due to the logo on the headstock reading insertfamousguitarbrand.
Ryan Edwards
>empathy That's for faggots, that guitar is shit and you can't argue that
Lucas Gray
I don't care about that guitar, it's a generic high end instrument. No complaints about the specs so it's just aesthetic choices.
What I am noticing is that /gg/ is shit and acts like a bunch of paranoid autists >if i don't play a gibson people will think i'm poor and bad at guitar!
Then how does famous fender sell guitars for the same and less as literally who custom shops?
Alexander Hughes
he said nut lol
Elijah Walker
Rickenbacker chick
Kevin Foster
>It's a high end instrument Spotted the Sambo
Easton Martinez
This is the age of the so called 'individual'. People aim to build an identity through the goods they purchase and the products they consume. Literal who custom shops and high end long established guitar brands cater to the same kind of people who basically want the same thing but go about it in slightly different ways. One group wants to use their instruments as status symbols, the other wants to use them as 'an expression of the self' (as if there is such a thing).
They both cater to idiots with more sense than money.
up to $2500 it's not the logo, it's the time and labor costs. making hardwood instruments right is a slooooow process. past $2500 it's artificial scarcity (limited edition bro, act now or you'll never get one!) and even more labor costs (hand carved body brooooo!)
insertfamousguitarbrand is famous because they pay experienced employees a living wage with benefits instead of random local teenagers an allowance with none
everything between $1000 and $2500 is a variance in pay rates, employee benefits, production process and raw wood costs instead of instrument quality. for instance, gibson's factory is very inefficient with more hand work than machine supervision and they use one of the most expensive woods they can. they do this for tradition, supposedly. fender has a more streamlined process and they use domestic hardwood. fender has always focused on improving manufacturing efficiency because it was founded by an engineer, not a musician. gibsons cost more than fenders.
Leo Fisher
Employees in the Mexican Fender factory make $60 a week. Even for Mexico, they're relatively poor and might need to work a second job to support a family well.
Employees in the American factory make $15 an hour, a few hundred a week.
That is why an instrument from a first world country costs more.
but mexican tacos cost peanuts meanwhile american tacos are pretty expensive.
yeah i´m >implying american fender employees are mexican
Michael Harris
Even with the living costs factored in the mexicans are still paid a lot less (they're happier with poverty, i guess), and meximoney is worth less than USD so paying them an equivalent wage would still be cheaper.
Carter Roberts
S A M B O A M B O
Evan Rodriguez
Never found a guitar for less than $200 that didn't turn itself into allot of work to sound nice.
Michael Cruz
Get an SDGR 5 string. Or Warwick Rockbasses, both good
Ryan Harris
if you play a boomer guitar you're a tryhard snowflake. >they don't make em like they used to >i was born in the wrong generation >everything sucks these days >no soul get over yourself and play an ibanez like everyone else.
ESP doesn't count >ESP, yep, metallica and slayer played em, now those are what i call guitars
That's because he's a Sambo that thinks he has high-end instrument: I bet he needs it for aids meds
Hudson White
The orange HSH is much better.
Gabriel Wood
why you did sold your godin seafoam tele hybrid canadafag ?
Xavier Myers
It's "high end" as in nicer than a fender and better for the money than a gibson, but not so high end it stops depreciating after a year and starts to appreciate.
Not with that flame top.
If ESP fags keep this up I'm just going to buy a schecter for half the price.
you should be proud of your national products poutinefag.
Lincoln Turner
Replace the pickups. Im thinking of getting a charvel soon but i dont want meme more duncans. Imma put emgz or suhrs in mine when i do.
Joshua Harris
Were all psychopaths. Im closer to finding where sam lives. I already have 1000 braxilian reales ready and a tranny willing to pop him in his sleep on discord. Imma get sammy involved in a tranny robbing gone wrong.
Colton Thompson
More like I wouldn't pay that much for a used metal guitar with a shitty flame top.
it's between great and good, try to fix the chipping and put it at great, it's certainly not mint
Samuel Gray
so they're total shithouse. agreed
Thomas Green
You don't really need more than 3 (volume/volume/tone) on a two pickup guitar, but if it bothers you, you can install concentric pots.
The price range I'm shopping at is the next step up from shitplanks - just planks. Customization is fine. But I want a guitar that exemplifies what makes electric different from my acoustic, and these metal guitars are pretty much that and fenders and classic gibbons are out. >more notes >easier access to them >more expression >modern design elements
Adrian Sanchez
got this bad boy arriving tomorrow. i must say i'm bretty excited.
fuck me. just buy a fender. a shitty fender is better than a squier. at least you can do them up.
Lincoln Torres
post some shred when it arrives.
Leo Gray
Worst YouTube guitarist. You can tell he paid for his degree.
>plays with guys 10000x best than him >talks like he's amazing but only knows basic music knowledge that makes beginners feel smart >pretty much can only play dad rock
own both road guitars & collectables for recording. unless youre a poorfag
Nicholas Morales
>Should I go for lessons Yes. >Where? I don't know what you mean by that. >What type of guitar should I buy? Something you can afford that you enjoy playing. Make/model/etc does not matter when you're starting out. The only thing that matters is that you have an instrument that you don't want to put down, especially because the learning curve for guitar is so steep. >I'm not sure if I should for an acoustic or electric Well, why do you want to play guitar? Just to be someone who plays guitar? Or is there a guitarist who inspired you?
Nicholas Murphy
the fr-esque bridge steal soul off your blues, dont be a cheapskate and buy a semi-flotant or a fixed bridge guitar.
Jose Walker
>You can tell he paid for his degree No, you can tell that mommy and daddy paid for everything. The guy has the exact shitty attitude you would expect from someone who has never had to struggle.
William Hall
just ask any legend like muddy waters... he could put strings on a baseball bat and make good music... soul comes from the player...
just look at all those hacks playing n(e)o-soul on classic strats... no help from the gear there...
Individual? That would mean they weren't sheep. It's the age of vanity and image management, where people buy things to look like who they want to be instead of actually being that. and for everything there's a herd of a hundred or more people all doing the exact same thing, same clothes, same cars, same guitars.
Connor Perez
This is the only other guy here who knows his shit. Ive dont this to all my brand new guitars. Bought a new Ibanez RG took straight to get set up from the shop same day, with 3 new DiMarzios and had all the frets filed to shape. Still cheaper than a high high end J series but still had the same pickups. Was a great road guitar.
Ethan Nelson
that´s because baseball bats dont fit a flotant bridge so it can sound very soulful.
nothing against fr bridges bro i have 3.
Noah Parker
kids these days, you can play as many notes and tap as much as you want and your song will still suck...nobody ever said fast was bad, but fast doesn't replace good...
just shredding isn't nice to listen to, you're just showing off...there's no soul put into it...
John Scott
nice,, but im an ibanezfag
Henry Wood
Wow this is the most beginner/boomer talk I've ever heard. Is this the 2009 Steve Vai YouTube comments?
