Why is the bar set so low for hip hop lyrics?

Why is the bar set so low for hip hop lyrics?

For example illmatic is heralded as a classic of the genre by the lyricism is pathetic

> I switched my motto, instead of saying "fuck tomorrow"
> That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto


So this guy Nas literally at 19 years old just realized the concept of delayed gratification? A concept that most 3 year olds understand? And it’s supposed to be genius wordplay? PFFFFFTTTTTTT AHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHA

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stfu

black people can make music. nobody claims they can write poetry.

i’m pretty sure most people don’t think that line is genius.
name a line you think is genius, show us your golden standard

Illmatic is a tourist album that white people hail as a classic despite listening to it maybe once and then moving on to something they actually enjoy. It's crusty ass dadrap with crusty ass beats and appeals less to aesthetic sensibilities than it does to satisfying political demands for a diverse range of music in a library, lest someone look through it and judge you "narrow minded."

> it does to satisfying political demands for a diverse range of music in a library, lest someone look through it and judge you "narrow minded."

What the fuck is wrong with you Americans?
If anyone tried that shit here they would get their face bashed in for being a cunt

I've always said this, Illmatic is the most overrated piece of shit I've ever seen. Nas is a hack.

define "here"

Deca "The Ocean" is the best rap album I've wver heard and has Jungian humanist themes that you haven't even read about.

My favorite line is "so we collect the swine, roast on a spit, they don't believe in anything they can't poke with a stick, they dont know about the monsters that pattrol the abyss, they don't know that mr. one zero is as dope as it gets" where he fucking shits on empiricists. You probably need to read Man and His Symbols for context.

>we black folk sure are poor and commit a lot of crime
Bravo Nasir, bravo.

I suppose that's one way of looking at it in this day and age. It's still a landmark album for presenting a real picture of street life versus the gansta braggadocio of the time. Illmatic was largely responsible for the resurgence of New York rap.

A third world shithole

my condolences

Only tourists held this album as the pinnacle of hiphop lyricism. The top lyrics of this album are not even from Nas.

>The top lyrics of this album are not even from Nas.
They from who then?

AZ verse on Life's a Bitch.

>Visualizin' the realism of life in actuality
Fuck who's the baddest, a person's status depends on salary
And my mentality is money-orientated
I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it
‘Cause yeah, we were beginners in the hood as Five Percenters
But somethin' must've got in us, ‘cause all of us turned to sinners
Now some restin' in peace and some are sittin' in San Quentin
Others, such as myself, are tryin' to carry on tradition
Keepin' this Schweppervescent street ghetto essence inside us
'Cause it provides us with the proper insight to guide us
Even though we know, somehow we all gotta go
But as long as we leavin' thievin'
We'll be leavin' with some kind of dough
So, until that day we expire and turn to vapors
Me and my capers will be somewhere stackin' plenty papers
Keepin' it real, packin' steel, gettin' high
‘Cause life's a bitch and then you die

>Illmatic is the most overrated piece of shit I've ever seen
it's actually one of the new examples of a "classic" album that lives up to the hype
>Nas is a hack
agreed

always enjoyed this verse but never actually read it as text. it really is magnificent and this is still by far my favorite song on the album

>hating NAS
wow Yea Forums really knows shit about music

>gay-z and cocafella records

I rock hoes you rock fellas.

The only good part about Illmatic was AZ's piece in Life's a Bitch.

why not choose an actually good album made by blacks then

>I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it

Hits different.

based

Chimps hollering about sex and drugs over a drum loop isn’t music

based

> Man, why do black people gotta be the only ones who can't evolve? ‘Cause you in the streets actin' like a neanderthal

I always loved "It's like the game ain't the same, got younger niggas pulling the triggers bringing fame to they name", but it was more to do with the rhythm than lyrics.

Bullshit, and it's not just white rap fans who hail it as a classic. Sure it's old but unless you actually enjoy the shite they call rap nowadays, it still holds up. But stay listening to Lil Pump and Cardi B.

Fucking love the line about Five Percenters turning to sinners.

Illmatic is lyrically still better than the most critically acclaimed rock and pop records. Prove me wrong.

>dadrap
lmao zoomer spotted
fuck off of this adult website and go listen to some rainbow haired face tattooed retard mumble about Xanax over some shit ass reverbed out trap beat

AZ is one of the best MC of the Golden Age. It's a shame people only remember him as the shadow of Nas when AZ was actually better than Nas when it came to lyricism. Nas has some nice flow and rhymes but AZ is one of the most well rounded MC ever, a bit like Big Pun.

The lyrics aren’t what’s cool about that line, although they’re fine and communicate a message effectively, what’s cool about it is the rhythm and internal rhymes
Fuckin retard

This

People listen to Nas because of his flows
composerscorner1.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-appreciate-rap-music-3-is-nas.html

I can’t wait until we line up racists like you and just fucking kill every single one of them :)

I like rap and Nas, but fuck off back to R-eddit with that bullshit. Where do you think we are?

>Go back to your hug box!
>Opinions contrary to mine aren’t fucking allowed here!

based. black people are trash.

What the hell??? Race war now!!

Good thing “racists” like me own most of the guns in America lmfao and compose 90% of the marines and army lol

AZ’s flow in Phone Tap has no comparison.

Want to know how I know you know I'm right?

Well then i can see its just an issue of taste. You clearly have a preference for more profound lyrics either in philosophy or politics or just in their bleakness, but Nas doesn't really do that, he's just a great descriptive writer, in that the stories he tells paint a picture in your head.

>> I switched my motto, instead of saying "fuck tomorrow"
>> That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto
i just realized how insane the rhyme scheme is in these bars

its cus non of you fucking people know anything about rap or rap music or hip hop

and yet you're terrified of unarmed blacks and feminine males
fucking kek

>It drops deep as it does in my breath
>I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death
>Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
>I think of crime when I’m in a New York state of mind

Seriously one of the smartest things I’ve ever heard in a song, let alone by a teenager

user are you... being racist outside of Yea Forums?

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