If music (or art in general) is subjective then what's the point in discussing it?
If music (or art in general) is subjective then what's the point in discussing it?
>people can't talk about things they enjoy
Philosophy and metaphysics are subjective. Meaning and morality are subjective. Value is subjective. Everything worth talking about is subjective. Objective things are things you learn about and then accept. Subjective things are things we develop opinions about. Your question is amazingly fucking retarded. Have a nice day :)
>Everything is subjective
What a boring argument
I didn't say everything is subjective, and the only way you could think that's what I said is if you're remarkably retarded and illiterate.
to make connections and give life purpose
Frogposter proves himself retarded once again. Subjectivity is literally the reason for music discussion. If music quality was objective there would be nothing to talk about
so the subjects get closer together
what do you mean by 'discussion'?
I can totally see people accepting art as subjective yet still talk about how THEY find certain works as innovative or of special interest for some reason. Retarded question.
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you figure stuff out as you talk
even subjectivity is subjective
we see everything from a human point of view. imagine if we had a completely different point of reference, like we were hyperintelligent crab-people or some shit. you can't imagine that, because you're just a human
a mere man
in the face of the crabman army
because discussion/critique creates new ideas (even if this process is unconscious). art by design is subjective and there would be nothing to discuss if it was objective (which it isn't and couldn't be)
If everyone learned theory this wouldn't be a problem.
it is because art is subjective that we are able to discuss it
>what's the point?
isnt it wonderful that we can put, in some level, into words the ineffable feelings that music effects within us and connect with our fellow humans?
also, it's fun to shitpost
Are arguments supposed to be fun?
why talk to anyone at all?
discussion isn't supposed to always end with a right or wrong answer.
You just talk about it to hear other's opinions, which are correct to them.
a lot of people (like maybe the OP) don't care about anything that other people say. (the OP should quit posting)
99% of discussion about art is a complete waste of time
it's not relative
you're not undermining the established order by cynically eating shit
It isn't completely subjective. If you think 6ix9ine is better than Bach you're wrong.
t. retard kyle
Because my opinion is the objectively right one and people need to know it
>if philosophical propositions can't be proven what's the point of arguing them
Idiot
they're both objectively worthless
Found the retard
Because we like to see people make cases for things and then either try to refute it or agree enthusiastically.
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