/prod/ - music production general

@ *waveoffsetter*

IDK ABOUT GRANULATOR MAN
like i've gotten some interesting sounds out but idk how practical this thing is

You just guessed their current color; I guess I won't need to paint. Thank you, user. That's a good call.

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Grayish dark green

Cringe

I'm a granular noob man. If you're fine with whatever you're using now, then ignore it lol. I just use it because it's simple and I've always used it I guess.

>idk how practical this thing is
Did you find it impractical?

>waveoffsetter
lol

shit thread

>Honestly though, your advice is great and you're a very kind person to share those tips in such detail.
Thank you.

Like the other guy suggested, if you want to learn synthesis, the NY School of Synthesis videos are good for someone who's never touched a synth.
Syntorial is great too, but some exercises can be a bit difficult for a beginner, so I'd say develop an ear for sounds and synthesis first.

Get Xfer Serum and don't waste time learning any other synth, at least at first. This alone is extremely powerful and the closest thing to an "industry standard" software synth.

btw, here's the book:
we [DOT] tl/t-lA3jb9ZbJr

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like this?

agreed.

lets start our own

man granular is my shit absynth isnt my main bitch but like that freaky sideho that indulges in the more fucked up stuff u kno???

in truth i'm put off mostly by initial "feel"
fm and the window function seem useful but beyond the overlap absynth just offers more...
although idk, the sounds i was getting initially were reminding me more of Amnesia Scanner pretty quickly

dragging samples in though is the shit i fucking hate that about absynth. i'm still going to end up using it a lot (:

When you call something "the shit", that means it's great/awesome/amazing. If something is just "shit", then it's terrible/awful/trash. I feel like spanish has a similar idiom. What language is your first? Surely, you're not one of those Italian anons?

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should i add anything more to this beat? i'm trying to keep in it minimal but it might be too sparse or just enough?

original guy who asked the question here, thanks to both of you for the info, really set me off on the right path here. Last part I'm still a little unsure on though, how should I go about getting my music theory down? In particular, how in depth do I need to get, what topics are fundamental etc. Right now I'm building up to chord progressions but idk what else I should have on my need-to-know list

his whole subject complement is 'the shit i fucking hate about that synth' though

guys he's expanding outside this general, this is from sadowick's new video

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english, very basic spanish- yeah that last line was strung together kind of weird.

yes, THE shit is calling something great.
you can't drag samples into absynth but you can with granulator, which is much quicker, especially when resampling a lot within a project.

I actually installed Absynth because of what you were saying about it, but only opened it once, my eyes started to hurt, and I closed it right away.
I'll play around with it once I get f.lux or something.

IDK, I alwaystend to use stock Ableton stuff because it's much easier to map to macros and other M4L devices, which is a big part of my workflow, so I guess I'm subconsciously more drawn to that, merely because of the slightly more impractical "configure" thing you have to do with third party plugins.

>man granular is my shit absynth isnt my main bitch but like that freaky sideho that indulges in the more fucked up stuff u kno???
lmao

"the shit" is slang for "the best".
Skrillex even has a song where the rapper goes "yeah, I'm the shit, I should have Febreze on me" lmao.

kek nvm i read the words in the wrong order (its late)

Nah dude, you're right; I imagined a comma in there that wasn't there.
At the end of the day, I was the ESL all along.
Thanks anons.
Have some good soundfonts for my mistake:
musical-artifacts.com/artifacts?asc=true&formats=sf2&order=name&tags=n64

no dude, YOU are right

f. lux can cause audio issues occasionally- just in case you ever notice your daw overloading try disabling it. (or at least that was the case a year or so ago, idk if it's been remedied in any updates, i haven't personally had any problems recently)

>I alwaystend to use stock Ableton stuff because it's much easier to map to macros and other M4L devices, which is a big part of my workflow

same man, everything just flows more quickly.
absynth's ui is definitely a bitch to get used to though, I had it for over a year before I actually tried to use it.

we're all right (:

This dude is crazy. That meme of the day video about him was insane.

>23 ore fa
How many Italians are here?

R8 my first attempt at some dub techno. Recorded to cassette via my Marantz PMD-222

puzzledustcollective.bandcamp.com/track/study-no-1

How to make a synth or sample sound like an electric guitar strumming? Is this even possible

Much better! The timing is a bit wonky but it might be more an issue with your bassline trying to do too much instead of fitting into the grooves of the organ you laid out. Try starting with just an offbeat pattern to match the organ melody and then see what kind of grooves work from there. Simplicity will help your individual elements stand out and the musicality will come from the grooves you play and their timing. Try putting some light overdrive on your organ, might be a tone you like. Spacey stoner stuff feels good with bass guitar, maybe you can get a cool pluck bassline that? Samples would be fine or start with a bass guitar pluck preset on a synth you like. Me personally I love organs and distorted guitars playing together for the vibe factor. Tremolo will help you space stuff out but then again I love that rotating cabinet organ sound from older American rock so I'm biased lolol.

>That meme of the day video about him was insane
What do you mean insane exactly?

Try mixing "plucks"

should I reply to him with the text generator?
a surprising amount all things considered

Combfilter and voicing according to the fretboard

He just has low vocabulary, that shit was hysterical.

Wut

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>instaud.io/3Yls/delete/c3781eecb199599c999d9b184ab317e5b7968be8
do i delete it if i dont like it?

too many

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I've watched it at least 20 times and it doesn't stop being funny.
Definitely the meme guy's magnum opus.

Are you new here friend? I'm listening to your track now but next time you use that site click the share button and copy that link. It will always be that kind of short 4 character format.
Track is super groovy, maybe some short in and out arp played in a high register sprinkled around would add more movement without sacrificing the vibe, some keys samples would be cool IMO. Would be interested to hear more from you.

kek

What do you need help with, /prod/?

i want a challenge

Still looking for someone who knows the Justice sampled sound selection and different mindset to the table to help in such a short time. Some random snares or tails of sound. House is the synth and get rid of that "float on" voice sample. I'm sure music and more compressor, and it gives you the DMX sound within the French touch sound and might have something on Cross.

Find a better. It's not hard to do if you know now not to add bitcrush but kept erosion, and added lowmend to the same instruments and to just not use too many elements at once, but it's good practice and I need different instrumentation and attention to creating the simultaneously filter section.

The only thing that sound that's why I need a dress-up gimmick. Genesis uses the wubs and found and might have heard it but here's my musician. The trick I've found that earlier. Thanks.
Another thing I like. I think there's not the sound I'm looking for obscure synth VST with a unique tone or something sounded like (in my youth I liked glam rock image. I'm really complex music. I just don't know why they went by the group in EDM since Daft Punk have to dress like that album to make a good critically-recognized album. Or we can talk. I feel like Daft Punk, for example.

This is his redemption arc after ruining /prod/ a year ago.

Anyone want to make skrillexcore with me?

SAME SAME GIMME A CHALLENGE!

yes

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>both of those responses are to ...............

so you wanna?

Cool, what kind of sound did you use as the input?

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Lmao

a kick i made with the greatest synth of all time
(hint: not serum)

Just relinked to the replies with the links I already posted. 4chanx is op.

d-delay lama?

(responses to.... me)

i thought 4chanx had some huge issue with it lol

MASSIVE BITCH

Omnisphere, the documentary componist's vst of choice

I made this recently from scratch (I usually sample) and I'm pretty new to this

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So, I'd love some feedback (particularly about mixing)….I honestly have NO idea how to mix and I'm just going by ear

>Main questions I have

1) How can I make the instruments I used sound more clear and separated from each other?

2) Does the outro match the rest of the song at all?

3) Any info/links about how loud the instruments/drums/crashes/song should be?

4) Any tips on mixing or making this a better song in general?

I really don't know that much about this, and any feedback at all is appreciated...I'm using FL Studio btw

Compression/limiting is suffocating the whole thing, take that off everything to start with (I believe FL has a master limiter also and that might be choking the mix too if it's enabled) and get your instruments balanced first, and if you're going to use compression as a stylistic thing you can add it afterwards once you have your balance right.

This is pretty shit. Why look for validation here?

>justicefag is a latino

I don't why, but I expected him to be white

Where can I find a lossless audio bassoon sample to reference? I am going to try replicating it with a synth in fl studio.

>lossless
meme

everyone knows shit samples sound better

is justicefag secretly sadowick????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Why do you actively use your time to shitpost here? The only explanation I think of for such manic behavior is mental illness.

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oh my god did you just figure it out

why are you jealous of me and the fact that i love being pegged?

I'm Justicefag. I'm the same guy from the agdg threads over at /vg/ who wanted to make Disco Jackboot.

end it all

Check your Discord.

check your penis

Yeah timing is a bit shit, but that's because I'm shit at keys and I didn't want to go for a robotic quantized feel.

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Added a sweeping resonant filter on that bass part so it stands out more. And some overdrive on the organ. Threw in a bit of guitar for funsies as well.

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check em

I do it as a creative exercise break.

>I'm the same guy from the agdg threads over at /vg/ who wanted to make Disco Jackboot
boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/jackboot
Goddamn it dude

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>Compression/limiting
It was a really bad attempt to sperate the sounds and instruments (I'm using the free plugins from FL Studio) Sytrus and sim synth is where I chose them....There weren't many sounds to choose from that I liked, and the ones that I chose were kind of fighting each other for the same frequencies...so I side chained a lot of the sounds together in an attempt to make them stand out from each other.….but I think that the instruments themselves might not work that well together either

Can you maybe suggest/describe what type of instruments would work with my melody?...Because I really like the melody and kinda want to keep it

Thank you so much for the feedback I really appreciate the advise

100

how do I make techno? I've never made any sort of music

I'm having difficulties coming up with anything g to make this sound good yet different from Genesis. I'm hesitant to add anything because I don't want it to sound like a ripoff, yet it needs to sound powerful. I'm losing steam in music and have been sleeping a lot more the past couple of days.

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Anyone here ever use the Slate VRS8 interface?

Just put four on the floor and some minor chord stabs

Is there an auto crop audio feature in audacity?

jesus christ this man is unstoppable
how can you guess his ethnicity just from the nickname?

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>how can you guess his ethnicity just from the nickname?
If you look at his playlists some are named in Spanish.

But still, we don't know for sure if that's him. Maybe it's just a coincidence, as many producers are still after that sound.

based

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Stop bullying justicebro =(

ight niggas whoever told me to read the dmm is very based, im starting to fucking understand everything. youtubers except sadowick are cucks

thats house dumb ass nigga. with techno, he can put random ass sounds with a bass and lo passed kicks

>tfw only enjoy tweaking presets and the pressure of making commercial tracks eats me alive

what fucking vst do i fucking need? Am I good with stock ableton shit and NI shit (kontakt/massive x)

You can make every synthesized sound you are likely to hear on the radio with those tools. You just need to level the fuck up on your synth game user.

>and NI shit
yes you are fucking good mang

unless you already have something specific in mind you don't *need* anything beyond the basics you already have covered

you had the perfect arrangement here

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Link to discord pls

discordapp.com

isn't it more likely that the magic of a commerical pop song doesn't come from the synth, but from the talent of the Swedish dudes writing the music?

Make high shelf at the end of bass chain and bring that down a bit maybe starting at 8k like 2db. It'll stop some of frequency clashing between the bass and organ initially. You can bring it back on at the part starting around 1:04, which I think sounds much more interesting and cooler now. So I'll spark up to that. The harpichord sounding plucks are a touch too loud, maybe cutting away some of their high end will do the trick as opposed to an overall gain cut. The sound itself and melody is great and fits the mood, maybe with a bit less high end you can match it with the rest of instruments in terms of tone. You can always add high end back in on the mixbus as an overall air or sheen effect, it will help glue the song as a whole and keep the tone between all the instruments consistent. Its considered less than ideal to have sounds suddenly jump out, at least from the perspective of slower groove based stuff where you want to keep the listener in the perpetual slow head nod state lol. Love the guitar as a whole and the overdrive is good too, try to bring it down for the initial part of the song and drive it harder during your chorus section. Little automation like that can go a long way so experiment. If you aren't already you can mess around with the panning. Think of your mix from the perspective of a band standing in front of you playing it, not every instrument is going to be coming from the middle.

Do you need all of those inputs? If you need a thunderbolt interface at a lower price point but within a similar range I HIGHLY recommend the focusrite clarett series.

Yeah, I'm helping someone set up their home studio and he already got two of those interfaces. Couldn't get the interfaces to connect to his laptop though. Thinking it might be because the thunderbolt cable is some bootleg one we got off amazon. Ever had a problem with thunderbolt cables that weren't official apple ones?

when you're just starting, how do you deal with the mental pressure of knowing that you suck and that you will suck for a very long, long time?
like how do you focus on the fun of the process rather than the results?

Melody is by far the most important element to music

It is what separates remarkable compositions from rubbish. I challenge anyone ITT to post a remarkable tune - not remarkable to you, but remarkable in an artistic, sociohistorical way - that doesn't rely on melodic figures

Hell, even within genres far disconnected from traditional songwriting like techno, where you would expect rhythm or sound design to play a bigger role, the really remarkable tunes are the ones with extraordinary melodic content

youtube.com/watch?v=Gi4vzEoJXHU

We know very little about the workflow and theoretical foundation of Max Martin (the most succesful songwriter alive) and his work, but one thing we do know is that, whenever going into production, the first thing he does is to spend anywhere from a week to a couple months brainstorming melodies - not arrangement or even lyrics, no, I'm talking 8 bars of solid musical ideas.

From now on I'm gonna be spending less and less time in front of a DAW. What does it matter whether you're capable of producing a pristine, groovy mix if you can't come up with good musical ideas in the first place?

so how are you going to come up with melody? on a keyboard?

Are you not able to imagine a melody?

no of course I can...I was just wondering if you had a primary instrument that you used to write

>like how do you focus on the fun of the process rather than the results?
you just spelled out the endgame man- it's all about becoming process oriented

i've been doing this.... 5~ years? hundreds of songs, most of them totally suck, i finish a song every few days at least usually. no song matters (okay i stop everything and spend a week when i know a song is good and want to take it further but that's different), when i start writing that day it's all about that days song and just having fun, following whatever has me curious- just starting out, that translates to "okay what am i learning right now? okay i'm going to have fun learning x and playing with it and my failures don't matter because i'm always getting better and i just want to focus on today."
celebrate every little victory, they'll add up. I hope i don't sound all annoying but yeah that's about it

lol

you sound like a cool dude with a great outlook, respect to you

are all didgital sound efffects shit? like logic plug ins they all sound shit

My mind.

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I have a guitar and a keyboard
I will only consider launching Ableton once I have a decent melodic idea to work on

>post a remarkable tune - not remarkable to you, but remarkable in an artistic, sociohistorical way - that doesn't rely on melodic figures

youtube.com/watch?v=GxZuq57_bYM

When I was first starting I knew that it would be years before I could compare myself to people who do it professionally (and I wasn't even sure that this would ever happen) so seeing myself develop skills was a constant mind blowing experience.
I remember being so happy about being able to make a filter sweep in Massive and I showed it to my brother like it was some impressive achievement lmao.

Comparing the work of a beginner to that of someone who not only has done it for several years, but is also an outlier among those who did (by virtue of the fact that they're famous and successful enough for me to know them), doesn't make any sense.
You're supposed to suck as a beginner. You shouldn't feel bad about it.

>remarkable in an artistic, sociohistorical way
>social impact means it's good
yeah okay fuck you but
a m e n b r e a k

you're fucking stupid

Would appreciate some feedback. I'll give some too.

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Keep working on it. Sounds like you have too much going on. Sometimes less is more

>instaud.io/3YkS
Sounds interesting but chaotic. The time's off.

Sounds good, just wish it had more drums

Motherboard>instaud.io/3UBp
Motherboard

aww thanks (:

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Alright, I'll go back to that.

I have never used used an apple cable but I have the stock one that came with my unit and it hasn't crapped out yet. Highly suspect its the cable.

They were talking about creating sound patches

I think you add some reverb/chorus to the sub bass, no? It's kinda bleeding into the mix. Try only applying it only to mid-bass frequency. The reverb also makes the percussion to not standing out, so I suggest to tighten up the tail a little bit or do some low-pass to it.

Put them together to get a feel for more songs for the album. I'm going to elongate these two, but at the moment nothing I try is sounding good. I really need somebody to do the same thing I do and bring something to the table. I keep second-guessing everything I do. I think the concept is basically an ayy lmao version of Daft Punk.

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*teleports behind you* nothing personal, kid

I'll do that, thanks

I guess I'm stupid. What'd you do with it?

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any feedback

>clyp.it/5hqrzf0k
Damn, I like that

I gave it some balls, you should think of some vocals. If it wasn't this late I'd scream something lol.

Whats your discord so I can shitpost my ideas to you in audio form?

Dylan02211992

#3620

Gonna hit you up tomorrow goodnight n-no homo

Just come over for some producing. We'll smoke a bowl and see where the evening takes us.

Guys, I found something awesome from old Justice stuff. A demo version of Planisphere. This shows how they start making their songs! So cool!

soundcloud.com/franck-bezairie/justice-planisphere-demo-version

i just realized it doesn't even matter how good the song you're making is. it doesn't matter, at all. holy shit,,

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What do you mean?

a song can still be 'good' if it isn't good, if there is some sort of confidence behind it, if it's done in a way which conveys something.. 'quality' takes up a different meaning.

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Never Really made a beat before. and i always wanted to try and get into it. this is my first beat. nothing to special its really just a chopped up sample, drums and bass. desu i find it kinda bad. so how did my first try go ?

It's cool, but you must understand that this doesn't stay interesting for very long. A bit of variation and structure goes a long way

Please explain more.

Good. Now add a melody

>instaud.io/3Yrq
lofi hip hop radio - beats to relax/study to

it's hard to explain. it's like i had a revelation but it's gone.

"if you spend more than 3 hours on your track it's shit" Mr Oizo

hey thanks for the kind words. yeah i reckon that it'd be boring after a while lmao. but i literally have no idea of how ableton fully works. if you guys could share like good resources to learn and shit like that i'd be very greatfull! thanks again kind anons !!

P.S i had made another beat the same day. tho its kinda off beat at times since i had to play the sample live without quantization. so it goes on and off beat at times i'd upload it if any is interested

I kind of understand what you're getting at, but I'm having a hard time putting it into words too. I believe the best music sounds analog and warm and I think that's part of your revelation, as most music coming out these days is cold and digital, but also that the best producers automate and comb over every part of their track to prevent it from becoming stale, while giving the listener something new to experience on every new listen because the track has so much depth. Am I close? Explain to me. You might be discovering the secret to success.

Nah, you realize pretty quick if you listen to pop that a song can be good (read enjoyable, popular, and memorable) whilst being absolutely retarded and dead simply made (see youtube.com/watch?v=RumFvtkW724).
You guys massively overcomplicate the process of music making because most of you approach it from the mindset of an artist or technician instead of an entertainer.

Really appreciate it breh, some good advice there.
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stopped reading at
>if you listen to pop

it goes deeper than analog/digital. it's a feeling. it's a magic combination of sounds in a certain rhythm that unlocks feelings in people. other things are more or less irrelevenat

Just like dungeon synth on a casio keyboard

I want some more emulation VSTs of analog gear. Any free ones you can recommend? I got Mr Ray 73

FB 3300

Not technically what you're asking but you can't really beat VCV Rack for amazing FOSS modular synth emulators.

the amount of knowledge required to even be an average producer is insane

truly wish i'd started this when i was in my early teens instead of earlys 20s, can't justify putting in a lot to get out so little

sorry lads just felt like venting ;-/

so i just made another beat right noww haven't added anything special to it or anything, just the basic beat. thoughts ??
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what do u think? i know the melody is sorta generic. 808 a bit louder?

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>clyp.it/user/ty4rnvxg

oops meant to post only the most recent one (eatin' ass), referring to that

any pro tools 12 torrents for Mac? is it impossible?

>20 years later and i'm still customizing reaper to behave exactly how i want it to

True, but compared to any other skilled profession it's not much at all.
If it were easier it really wouldn't be worth it, as there would be so much good music made by every 12yo that the difference between someone who does it as a career and someone who does it for fun wouldn't make it worth doing as a career at all.
It's the fact that it's hard that makes it worthwile, and when you become good at it I promise it's gonna feel so good (I'm not pro-level yet, but seeing how much I know compared to when I first started, and how much I improved since then, already feels very good and makes me want to work more).

Fuck me I forgot /prod/ even existed. So unproductive lately.

Ok, so I have a beat tape produced. There's this rapper that goes to the same gym, and he's pretty popular here( I live in a 2nd world country). Should I just go up to him and ask him to check out my beat tape or will I get btfo or ignored?

Yes but not during his workout.
Possibly when you see him idling before or after it.
If you act annoyingly or interrupt him in any way (even just by having him take his headphones out) he'll probably think you're a cunt and won't listen to your shit.

If he goes there with someone else, you could try befriending them over some shared experience or interest (maybe comment on his tshirt if it's about a band you can research on your phone or something like that) to get in their circle, and with time you'll get to know the rapper.
Don't even tell them you're a producer until you're already their friend for some time, and make it seem like producing is no big deal to you ("yeah I kinda produce once in a while, I have a couple beats on my phone if you want to hear").
This is a long-term strategy though. If you want some quick shallow connection just cold approach him and give him your elevator pitch, but he probably won't care and you'll be one in a million other kids who've sone the same within the past few months.

Willing to buy a simple synth like korg monologue or arturia microbrute, but I don't actually need these two. Waht can I get for 200$? What will be a nice choice for retrowave/synthwave/darkwave?

A used dx7.

It costs more than 200$

If this is true, why not shit out hundreds of tracks and become rich bitch?
Yes, and art has a better chance of standing the test of time.
Why would you do this when dexed and a midi keyboard can make the exact same sounds and would be significantly easier to program?

It's like two fiddy on ebay and iconic for the genres you mentioned. Also polyphony.

>muh hardware
is the only reason to buy any physical synth

How do I make my bass sound less mechanical? If I'm trying to do a post-punky/gothy thing with like 16th notes, it just sounds so inorganic when I put the notes down

Record it live yourself and don't quantize. If you can't play it up to speed slow down the tempo while recording.
16th note bass lines sound like a terrible idea though... do you have any examples of this?

I must have fucked up my theory, maybe I don't mean 16th notes, I just mean faster notes like on a typical post punk song

parameters mapped to note and velocity

No, you're probably right depending how they define the tempo. I realized you're talking about repeated notes the moment I clicked post. At first I was imagining some muddy bebopish bassline that goes all over the place. My advice still stands though since playing manually will naturally vary the velocities of the notes to make it sound more natural.

explain to me like I'm an idiot please: do you just mean varying the velocity?

oh yeah, I'm talking about the same note 8 times, followed by another note 8 times, etc. thanks for the advice!

guys
I've been using FL studio for 3 years now and I've had the horrific realization that I am slowly but surely getting shittier at making music. I fucking hate FL, everything about it encourages all of my worst tendencies and I feel like if I keep using it I will never improve. I've tried to switch to Ableton multiple times but each attempt never lasts more than a week. I honestly think it's harder to switch from FL. I've looked for a tutorial series tailored for people that are already familiar with FL, but it doesn't look like such a thing exists. to Ableton than just learning it from scratch. Does anyone have experience making this switch? Any resources that helped?

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What style of music do you want to make? Are you able to play any instruments? Need more info.

how come there's still no vst version of vcv rack?
the developers must hate money

there is this ive not tried it though
github.com/bsp2/VeeSeeVSTRack

yes but depending on the synth you can usually map stuff like filters of fxs to the velocity and sometimes the actual notes, this way playing different notes with different velocities will give you a slightly different sound and that helps a lot
I'm pretty sure it's quite common for kontakt libraries if you take a look under the hood

>What style of music do you want to make? Are you able to play any instruments? Need more info

I feel FL Studio enhances my creativity simply based on the simplicity of it.
It's so versatile and easy to use, but yet so amazing..

As the dude above me said what style of music are you making?

it's planned for the next version I think

is that a good or bad thing

I struggle with genre labels but the stuff I make these days probably tends to lean towards ambient IDM, downtempo, maybe a little bit of dream-pop and l*fi h*p-h*p. (Think BoC, Kenny Segal, Tobacco. Lots of bitcrushed synths)

One thing that I forgot to mention that's more on the tech support side of things: Ableton doesn't recognize the vast majority of my VSTs. I've heard this is because Ableton won't detect plugins missing recent updates as an anti-piracy measure. If it is an anti-piracy thing, it's working. All of my software is pirated. Not proud of it, but right now for me it's either pirated software or no software. I imagine that this just means I'll have to spend a day reinstalling plugins to get them to show up, but it's kind of a daunting task seeing as I've amassed a gargantuan collection of VSTs over the years.
>Are you able to play any instruments?
Play drums but recently had to sell my kit. Never did end up recording live drums in any tracks but I'd like to in the future.

Immunity >>>> Cross

anything > justice

Then you will benefit from the switch, since live has the session view thing wich is a loop sequencer and all those artist use that.

Imo live is the most intuitive daw so just watch some tutorials

>Immunity
Did you mean: electronic music for rockists

i switched from ableton (5years) to FL 2 weeks ago and im never looking back. making music is finally fun again to me. that switch also came with a great realisation. it REALLY depends on what music you're making. you'd rather make jungle on an akai sampler than on a TR-909

I went out and bought more RAM today. The project I was working on last night was fucking maxing me out. Never had that happen before.

was it maxing out your RAM or your cpu?

What do you make? I get the sense that there's a lot of "grass is always greener" with this stuff. Maybe it's more about the switch itself than what exactly you're switching to. Staring at the same UI for hours at a time every day for years is inevitably going to whittle down your creativity and enthusiasm, and more often than not that means the quality of your work is gonna suffer tremendously. At least that's what I think is happening with me.

RAM. It was so bad I couldn't even open the project without aborting instruments. Got the new sticks installed, and currently just the DAW alone is sitting at 12.5 gigs.

rockism isnt a thing
even if it were cross isn't any less 'for rockists'

>rockism isnt a thing
not true

>even if it were cross isn't any less 'for rockists'
true

RAM > Cross

RAM > CPU*
Sorry, Autocorrect.

jesus fucking christ man go make music and actually get good instead of trying to fill the void with shitposting, you're not funny anyway

>Ableton doesn't recognize the vast majority of my VSTs
odd, are they 32 bit? ableton only supports 64 bit vsts

I'm already more successful than you, bitter old man.
Shitposting is what grounds me and inspires me. Without it I'd be nothing.

Have I got rid of the weirdness in my voice yet?
instaud.io/3YlZ

instaud.io/3YEi

if youre were a rapper would you buy my beat? why not?

agreed

all lies user, i know you're full of shit

i've somehow managed to go months without hearing your shit and i regret clicking despite knowing it was going to be you FUCK

>why not?
it's not good?
drums are too busy at random spots, sounds fairly preset-y. not the worst thing ever though

>Staring at the same UI for hours at a time every day for years is inevitably going to whittle down your creativity and enthusiasm

it's a matter of perspective- anybody can just as easily say "working with the same UI for hours at a time every day for years is inevitably going to make you extremely efficient and work quickly since you know the daw inside and out"

Change can be refreshing though- I know it sounds dumb but i make a point of changing Ableton skins frequently for this reason.... changing my default set and focusing on different synths help as well.

>all lies user, i know you're full of shit
I made low-mid six figures from music this year and it's a slow one because I just had my second kid.
What do you have to your name? Your anime DVDs?

>and i regret clicking despite knowing it was going to be you FUCK
why? that's harsh

>syntorial's group exercise 12

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No less than the monkey deserves.

default insults:
>haha ur a weeb
>cheetodust
>incel virgin xDDD

good one. could be trolling but i thought you were *that* user

don't get him all riled up man

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post your better playing and or singing then asshole

trying to bring others down with you won't make you sound any better sammy

What program is this?
youtube.com/watch?v=64V_KO3ikN0

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i made a question and you bashed me right away without even a comment and i'm the one trying to bring others down? oh fuck you and your retarded gaslight.

adobe premier pro

Thank you.

I wish there was an easy way to swap color themes. The muted grey tones with hints of dirty blue in everything annoys me after using FL since v7.

what makes my mixdown sound like this? It sounds bad right?

instaud.io/3YGX

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everything is lows bro
is all that granular shit sampled or what the fuck? idg how you're asking this but are making sound like that lmao

thxx though i was wondering what to work on and i wanna make some like that now :p

UMA

I dig your voice but you are off key with the song you picked. In general your voice reminds me a lot of Danzig's after I heard him live. Maybe try some more songs within the punk style, tonally it can cover your natural pitch shifts and avoid having to do any post. production tuning on your vocals. Just something to consider though! Your guitar is awesome and I know you'd be able to play the simpler riffs with a ton of expression. Please don't get discouraged since I would love to help you out further, my experience is mostly shadowing my boss while he does recording but I'm picking up knowledge slowly and could at least help you out with mixing.

Nope, 64 bit. It's really baffling.

nice digits
>everything is lows bro
yeh but it's weird the lossless file sounds not that bad but when I upload it onto anywhere the lows are brought forth so much
>is all that granular shit sampled
the main sound is serum and a butt ton of fx but most of the layers like at 0:50 for example are sampled

>I made low-mid six figures from music this year
I've always wanted to live in Japan except I would hate standing out because I'm white.

instaud.io/3YHq

Told the ol' lady I'd make her a love song if she went out on this warm
summer day to buy sandwiches.

So I did this real quick while she was gone.
I can't sing for shit and jacked the lyrics from the Mad About You theme song.

But how's the levels and shit?

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why off key

id like to do punk covers but nobody cares about them on the internet

>why off key
what kind of question is this

why don't you make the love song with her

We've got a whole bunch of cutesy songs together. Her voice is kind of unique and
a lot of people seem to not like it. But its one of my favorites.

Example:
instaud.io/3YHW

she has a good voice but is not a good singer

Yeah, that's probably closer to the sort of critiques I hear. She never did it growing up, and we usually get pretty drunk
before she'll even get behind the microphone. Really fun nights, though.

Thanks for checking them out.

the notes are in key

i like it

>tfw no qt musical gf to make songs with
I WANT TO FUCKING DIE

Then post your recorded track with the pitch analysis so we can laugh at you again, fuckwit.
OR PREFERABLY just stop being dishonest with yourself.

im not being dishonest retard
i may go flat or sharp sometimes but i'm not out of the key's scale

i'm a good singer and writer but I cannot make music to save my life, feels so fucking bad

learn music

i am the exact opposite maybe we should team up

Thank you.

Its fun. But the best part is that she understands when I spend a couple hours alone playing music.
Go find a cute girlfriend and make songs with her.

Also, fuck it. One more 'cause people never hear these tracks anyway.

instaud.io/3YId

Working on a poppy track, looking for feedback in general
I think I need to do something about the bass?
instaud.io/3YIf

sounds like the 1975 if they sucked even more than they already do. vocals need to be more prominent in the mix

collab bro?

do i need to know music theory to make music

is this one also out of fuckin key? youtu.be/C1JHin82CiA

IT'S ALWAYS OUT OF KEY
stop posting YouTube videos like you're proving something faggot

well waaaay back i used to make boom bap beats on reason 4. then i switched to ableton and my shit sounded trash for the longest time. eventually i started making electronic stuff, mostly house stuff, which ableton deffo lent itself to. now im making trap beats so really FL is perfect for me, grass is greener effect aside

>omg i feel intimidated by an youtube link, i must insult him

>yeh but it's weird the lossless file sounds not that bad but when I upload it onto anywhere the lows are brought forth so much

I can't think of why it would do this. Try downloading it back from instaudio and see if it plays back correctly on whatever you use.

no dipshit

it's not about it being youtube, it's that you think you're actually proving something by showing another out of key example that nobody asked for

nice baiting, dont quote me anymore

Use Digital Performer.
I'm going to meme this now.

I felt that some of the notes you hit were off key, nothing too major since you clearly understand how to sing around what you're playing. My advise is to simplify your playing and singing to see where your pitch starts to drift. Arguably no one cares about singer/songwriter covers either, maybe after trying some of the punk stuff you'll get other ideas about where to go. Personally I believe punk will make a comeback in a different form but the guitar and vocals will remain the same. Please ignore the one negative asshole who isn't offering any real feedback.
I'll take a listen to your vid later though, about to leave the house.

yes

Remember when everyone in prod wanted to sound like moody good?

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instaud.io/3YKi
Added some extra voices doubling the lead to make it more interesting and spacey. And some "greeble" in the first half, which I'm not really sure about.

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>12 gigs for a trap loop
Damn

>isn't offering any real feedback

Oh no we did lots of that, oh yes we did, and then we stopped.

Two years of this now and counting, 24 months of feedback being met with further questions written like statements, denying any criticism because of that one time (maybe twice) on youtube where he hit that one note.

You're just at the start of this ride if you choose to carry on, enjoy.

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What the fuck the most I've peaked on Ubuntu is about 3gb.

>Oh no we did lots of that, oh yes we did, and then we stopped.

i am the "one negative asshole" being referred to
i tried helping him for so fucking long when i was new to /prod/ (so was he) and it was like pulling teeth with that dude, he just outright makes excuses or pretends no problem exist, it's fucking ridiculous. legit had to keep in mind not to say anything negative just so he wouldn't immediately go into defense mode.........
he never acted on any advice, it got more annoying, realized i was being an idiot for bothering at all, haven't heard him improve at all in two years aside from a slight quality shift when he stopped recording with a direct in line mic, that's literally it.

So you're the poopy head with a soft spot user? I know you.

i don't recall being called that, but it's possible

Nah, I like it, bass sounds good. Can't understand a word of the vocal but I think that's the point?

>organ accompanied by farts
what the fuck's a greeble?
Pretty neat, drums are hella weak tho, sounds like the 70s with higher fidelity.

I have too much of a soft spot and want to help as much as I can whenever I hear something with potential. You bring up a good argument and I’ll consider turning down my compulsion to help from now on.

took the plunge, bought a MPK Mini Play. Don't know anything about music theory or production, but having fun just playing around with it on the couch. Will hook it up to the computer tomorrow when I get a longer USB cable

fun is all that matters

Ok, but still it's hard to find it for that price, this is the only option?

>this is the only option?
Did you even read the thread? The answer is below your original question.

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That's rude.
What can I et for 70$ with faders/pads? Used on reverb, there are some different keyboards

what's your favorite realistic sounding bass VST?

Yes unless you have perfect pitch

Reverb is for selling, not buying ;)
Do you have something like craigslist where you are? I would check that.
reverb.com/item/26037269-m-audio-oxygen-49
reverb.com/item/24584250-m-audio-oxygen-49-key-midi-controller-2000-s-black

3x osc

I can't buy on reverb or what?
Just for a few month in the USA, I'm in the NYC right now. That's why I'm asking, don't have enough time to search everywhere. Also I'd like to check some flea markets if there are any.

It's not the only course of course, just one of the most genre appropriate options. You'd be better off with a DX11 or SY77 if you want an FM sound, but they're more like 300, and old analogs are usually even more expensive.
Personally I'd just save for something in the 3-5 hundred range.

>I can't buy on reverb or what?
I'm just saying that because the prices will be higher on Reverb. I guess you could think of it as a convenience fee.

Oh boy, you're in luck there's 130 possibilities depending on your transportation situation.

newyork.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=synthesizer&sort=rel

I play rock music and I use FL Studio. I think it's great. Fuck my Reaper friends.

Is that shit actually worth it?

Oh that's new for me, thank you guys
Actually, maybe I'll stick with one of those
newyork.craigslist.org/brk/msg/d/brooklyn-arturia-minibrute-analog/6935542837.html
newyork.craigslist.org/brk/msg/d/brooklyn-korg-microkorg-37-key/6935745524.html
newyork.craigslist.org/brk/msg/d/brooklyn-novation-mininova-analog/6936977974.html
Have to check the youtube first. Thank you, user

Here is just a random demo to support the thread instaud.io/private/d2bbb124514a4320c201363b4dfb9dfb230baee1

instaud.io/3YNS
Working on the intro for a new psy track. Any thoughts?

no its not really you should just pirate it nobody before relied on syntorial to make music

Can anyone give me a reverb analysis on this track? Is it one set reverb throughout or are they adjusting it particularly at 1:36? Are they using one reverb and switching outmdrums throughout the track with different drum volumes, and perhaps that's why I'm hearing them "adjust" the reverb?

youtu.be/9f-NQZYCZnA

And lastly, at 1:36 you can hear the reverb shaking as of it's reverberating off something nearby after the low volume snare hits. How to do this? Are they using quieter or lower velocity drum hits and maybe that's why the reverb responds more quietly? These guys are seriously meticulous as hell

And lastly, at 1:36 you can hear the reverb shaking as of it's reverberating off something nearby after the low volume snare hits. How to do this? Are they using quieter or lower velocity drum hits and maybe that's why the reverb responds more quietly? These guys are seriously meticulous as hell

I think I'd better get back to sampling music and get every one hit, chord stab, whatever I can find

Sorry for multiple posts. Connection error was holding me up

>I think I'd better get back to sampling music and get every one hit, chord stab, whatever I can find
Sent you an add on disc bro

STOP

You’ve been caught using a stale justicefag text generator meme

I’ve contacted cyber police

Alright, I added you. I do think what they've done is sampled virtually every single thing from albums that are isolated. Every drum hit, every bass note, some vocals like the Queen We are the Champions Ahh on Genesis, Slipknot voice, whatever they could find that was isolated. I'm not sure about the reverb though. They seem to almost not use it at all, or maybe very slightly. Every now and then they increase the reverb and use it as an effect. But they have such a consistent reverb throughout the album. So much so it almost sounds like there is no reverb I just can't tell how they're automating it. Is everything sent to a return channel and then automated from there? That can't be it, because sometimes different elements have different reverb amounts, or maybe not and some elements just have higher volume, giving the illusion of different reverb amounts. Reverb confuses me so fucking much

Nice, good and dark sounding. Good luck not getting mugged in Brooklyn.

drum hit to a channel with reverb with a long tail
record it
cut the actual drum hit
automate the volume of the remainder tail

And what particularly will that reproduce?

here's my take instaud.io/3YOW
i like it, get more sfx or a full-on bassline

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The empty reverb ooompf you hear 1:36 into Justice's Newjack

The thing about that sound is that it sounds like what happens to a snare drum when something makes it vibrate. It gradually swells in volume after every hit of the snare. I wonder if they sampled that as well?...

I don't know how they did it, but I've done something similar before with the method described here >It gradually swells in volume
That's exactly why I told you to automate the volume, user

It justmdoean't have the same sound. If you listen closely, it has a snare rumble, or what's called snare buzz. The snare buzz vst doesn't sound like it, but I know a sample would. It was most likely a sample from an album. Thanks for the help

Yoooo. Cool groove, I went with a similar bass sound but without the attack. I like the fx additions, the speed up/slow down on the intro and outro is dope. Do you also make psy? Would love to hear any of your stuff in general.

instaud.io/3YQf
Some updates there with timing and melodic changes, haven't started with any mixing yet though.

i've heard a lot of psy, but never attempted to make a track. That new intro is solid, too tired for advice right now, but is looking good.

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Greeble is like extra detail to make it sound more complex than it really is. It's a 3D modeling term I think. I'm talking about those little glitchy sounds.

When was this?

Kind of not much going on at :26 and for like 20 more seconds but it’s pretty good. What is it for though? Is someone supposed to sing on it?

Anyone recommend any good music production/composition forums? Apart from this one of course. I gravitate towards electronic, rock, folk, ambient and orchestral.

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futureproducers

I'm moving my studio to different, smaller - but more "appropriate" room.

>pic related
Is a drawing of the dimensions of the room, including the positioning of the desk, monitors and listening position.
I am asking for help in what forms of treatment to use in what areas (low end bass traps, broadband diffusers and high freq generic treatment. I will be building them myself (except for the diffusers) from rockwool and wooden frames.

I don't know if you guys are going to have any information on this but I would appreciate any commentary or criticisms of my plans?

The monitors are placed 1/3'rd of the way into the room, with a distance between the middle tweeters and the listening position being the same as I currently have it set up, which allows for both my screens to be *out of the initial line of the speakers*, so unless I get smaller monitors, this is basically the setup I have to use. The issue is that the listening position of this distance, with allowing the monitors to be in the sweet spot - puts the listening position very close to the back wall.
The speakers are wide, horizontal mounts (Adam A77X) so turning them vertical is not an option and I really don't want to get rid of these and replace them with the S2V's.

My questions are this:
is being so close to the back wall going to result in a very bad listening position, even if it is diffused/trapped etc?
What sort of compromise am I going to be making if i move the monitors closer to the back wall (say 1/4 distance instead of 1/3) to allow the listening position to come further up from the back wall?
Where do you think is the best position to place bass traps, diffusers/broadband treatments and high freq. treatment respectively? (obviously bass for corners etc).

Thank you for any help.

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My pitch improved on these 2 years, fuck you

>he never acted on any advice
ofc i did fuck you again with that retarded statement that you keep repeating

dont listen to him

The closer the sound source gets to the wall the more it will resonate especially the bass frequencies

any tips on improving the mix?
instaud.io/3Z14
>ambient

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It's a bit of a balancing act. You have what mentions where you'll get stronger bass frequencies reflecting off the wall behind them if you move the speakers further back (not as much with front-ported speakers like yours though, but still relevant) but you'll also get stronger mid and high reflections coming off the wall behind your listening position if you move the speakers in the other direction.

Small rooms are nightmarish to tame for modes in the low frequencies - comb filtering and flutter echo from more mid and high frequencies are more easily damped with your panels (at your immediate right and left, plus the wall behind the listening position) but you might get away with moving the speakers a little further back towards the wall behind them, as you say try 1/4 distance, and listen for lows starting to change at certain frequency bands. In really small rooms a lot of people listen at very low levels because of how unreliable the bass response gets due to the amount of reflection and peaks and nulls in the room.

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Why you do this fuck you thanks for ruining my life

Your life was ruined the minute you were born Brazilian.

instaud.io/3Z1O

Thoughts ??

i had to play the chops live while recording in ableton because i'm still new to the whole producing thing

Original sample:

youtube.com/watch?v=pB6JBzvW3LU&list=PL1096B1B5A39058B1&index=27

decent flip, but only for about 10 seconds.
you need to do more at that mark. a lot more.

hey thanks for the feed back ! true i feeel the same way too because to me that beat was never actually considered "finished" but i have no idea how to add on to the foundation that i have since i'm still new to making beats and new to ableton

just keep at it, m80.
focus on making drums for a while.

grab a bunch of drum samples + breaks + kick drum synth. then for a couple of weeks just make some nice sounding 2 to 4 bar loops by using those + chopping out 1 shots from breaks.

clyp.it/r3rlnalr

any feedback?

i like it. makes a strong statement.
like the 21st century 4'33'