i have a question for any noise aficionados out there
what makes one noise album better than any other? i have been trying to explore the genre because i like the raw/visceral and kind of energetic feelings the harsh sounds inspire, but i don't feel any album is really "better" than any others, they all fall into the same sorta range and it isn't exactly inspiring me to keep exploring when i could listen to the same handful of records and get the same effect.
Harsh noise
Brayden Sanders
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Ryder Powell
Noise is a meme genre
Owen Garcia
you gotta FEEL it
Anthony Garcia
Analog is better than digital, most laptop made noise is shit. I enjoy albums where the texture changes around a lot and lots of different sounds are incorporated so hnw is usually shit also. Basically whatever sounds similar to old industrial music but harsher. Japan and USA have the best artists generally speaking
Josiah Martin
but they all feel roughly the same, even stuff like death industrial and power electronics don't quite do it for me
Xavier Nguyen
PE is just noise with a guy shouting about rape and nazis on top of it
Jayden Nelson
I've listened to a lot of noise and I honestly think a big part of it is personal preference. I also am more likely to come back to records that are more interesting/risk-taking. Pulse Demon is a meme album, btw. It's really standard as far as Merzbow's more straight-forward stuff goes. for that stuff, Venereology is the best. Merzbuddha is probably a good example of an "interesting" Merzbow release, at least to me. it's got the noise in the background, but there are also these super low dubby basslines and more singular noise parts that almost serve as lead lines.
Liam Russell
this album gave me a headache. people who "listen" to noise are tricking themselves
Leo Johnson
Pulse demon? Try LULZ DEMON instead lul
Caleb Butler
thank you, do you have any other noise recs? i suppose i could just look up a chart or something, might do that anyways
William Evans
Albums that are better at reproducing that raw/visceral energetic feeling are good. Albums that make you feel nothing are bad. Generally for me, I like stuff that is dense and changes up throughout the course of the song. I don't care too much for noise that is just one long loud drone. There's a lot of different kinds of noise meant to make you feel differently. I get a different feeling from listening to Hybrid Noisebloom than I do listening to Venereology. Just keep exploring and find some artists you like. Then figure out exactly what you like about those artists' music you like, then use that to find similar artists.
Ethan Murphy
is this even considered music?
John Gonzalez
based. Breakdancing Ronald Regan is epic.
Parker Evans
depends who you ask. rym yes, discogs no for example.
Nicholas Turner
>I don't like it therefore its impossible for anyone to like it and people who do are just tricking themselves
Isaiah Hernandez
sure, I'll try to give you some more of the standard "interesting" noise records I like to get you going
Meira Asher - Spears Into Hooks (super aggressive and vastly underrated PE record that isn't too inaccessible, features a little world influence. more can be found on her previous release, albeit with a lot less noise)
Yellow Swans - Going Places (gets really pretty in some spots, droney & ambient)
Whitehouse - Bird Seed (PE, not for everyone but it's a genre staple)
Ramleh - Hole in the Heart (see above)
Lingua Ignota - All Bitches Die (not entirely noise, more closely neoclassical, but it's been getting a lot of buzz in noise/PE discussions and is definitely worth a listen)
Mo Te - Life in a Peaceful New World (essential wall)
Nahvalr - Nahvalr (mix of noise with black metal and sound collage)
Damien Dubrovnik - Great Many Arrows (really lavish death industrial from the Posh Isolation guy)
I Am a Lake of Burning Orchids - Summer in My Veins (PE that sounds like shoegaze)
BiS Kaidan - BiS Kaidan (j-pop x noise that works really well)
Robert Hall
thanks a million! i really appreciate it, gona download some of these now
Julian Brown
Listen to Strom.ec.
Hunter Harris
i fucking hate this guy for being a complete elitist asshole cunt who bans other people from playing noise shows in austin, but he's based and i like that album. he used to post here many years ago though. i remember xern0n calling him out of his bullshit at some point.
Liam Scott
nah you're genuinely up your own ass if you think noise is real music. the fact you actually listen to this shit makes me lmao at the thought of you sitting alone in your room with merzbow playing. genuinely hilarious
Luis Sanchez
Noise shows exist idiot
Ryan Sanders
I'm asking you guys.
personally, from what I tried to listen to, I keep trying to look for "music" in it. you know, something vaguely rhythmic or melodic. but you seem to enjoy it for just what it is. a raw audio signal with 0 coherence.
William Morales
Deathpile - G.R. is also an interesting release, it's an album that is from the perspective of the Green River Killer
Grayson Nelson
I always thought that one leaned into the angry guy yelling about rape thing too much and wasn't great overall but it's a pretty big PE release
Jaxson Cook
take that will probably make Yea Forums laugh at me: any sound called music is music
added to the list, thank you
Angel Wright
>something vaguely rhythmic or melodic
Yeah it's not made like that. Think of it as those relaxation recordings of nature, waves, birds, forest etc, but with hellish industrial wastelands instead. It isn't listened for musical elements as you said but rather to create certain moods and atmosphere in a listeners mind.
Benjamin Hall
meant to quote
Jacob Garcia
I think I get it now. rather than looking for notes or rhythm that "makes sense", you listen to it for the raw textures and sounds, I guess?
I'd probably never enjoy it myself. But it's quite interesting to me that people can enjoy it and feel it.
Jeremiah Price
>you listen to it for the raw textures and sounds, I guess?
Yes exactly, it isn't the same process as listening to melodic music at all. Closest would be various extreme metal genres or really atonal avantgarde classical or free jazz, I suppose - just enjoying the odd exotic sounds and timbres
>I'd probably never enjoy it myself. But it's quite interesting to me that people can enjoy it and feel it.
It definitely isn't for most people just as watching avant-garde films that are just visuals and sounds with no plot isn't for most. Probably a high correlation of mental illness as well, for better or worse