/prod/ - Music Production General

So in a few months i'll buy myself a music production setup, but the problem is i don't know what i should buy.
I'm used to fruity loops also, and the budget is aprox 350 british pounds.
I will produce techno + dnb beats.
Thanks

lmgtfy

what's a good keyboard controller under $200? Keystep? Something Akai? Komplete Kontrol?

what other equipment do i need? am i missing anything? for dnb/techno music production

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monitors obviously

is it worth pursuing this further?
instaud.io/3XOa

Nektar Impact LX49+ is pretty nice.
Ironically, the worst part about it are the keys themselves. Very plastic-y and no weight. But the feature bundle is nice. Got it for 100 euro new

should i go for m-audio monitor or which brand?

jbl lsr or yamaha hs are standard entry level monitors

go for 8 inches if you can afford it

damn they're expensive AF, how about M-Audio AV32 for a beginner.

HeY
iM pRoDuCiNg AnD wULD like some feedback
instaud.io/3XD0

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I'm trying to actually get a good grasp of piano in order to be able to get more ideas out on the DAW. I've hit a major wall in making stuff, my raw music theory knowledge is extremely limited (If I don't stick to either C Major, C minor, or all black keys I just completely wing it blindly in any direction that feels even slightly coherent) I know if I learn more scales I'll be better off, but I always feel as if I need to learn every single scale out there in order to follow/play what I actually want to hear. On top of that, trying to learn theory feels like an endless void of abstract rules with no clear way of actual implementation.
Would it just be better to learn how to play individual songs or would that be too far out of the way or too "narrow" of a practice to actually improve my piano playing skills? Sorry if this made no sense but I am just absolutely lost on this shit.

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Just transpose up or down if you don't want to learn all keys. Then just learn all the remaining modes starting on C as the root for all of them. It's extremely easy to visualize that.

Anybody got an ableton torrent for me, i've been using lite for 3 years. Or at least point me in the right direction, all the ones I'm finding now are removed

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its probably on rutracker

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audioz.download
Not a torrent tracker but it has the latest version without malware or other bullshit.
Download from Rockfile or UploadBoy for the fastest speeds.

Not that user but will it even work? Don't they have authentication keys and stuff?

youtube.com/watch?v=OHeLZNZSbOs

how to patch the synth stabs from the beginning of this track?
i've been trying to create something similar on serum with no good results

Have you never pirated anything in your life?
Yes it will work, because the people who release these pirated programs also include some way to activate it without paying.
Usually a cracked .exe or some sort key generator.

Just download the files (extract them with winrar), turn off the Internet, check the R2R instructions before doing anything, follow them, disable inbound and outbound connections to Ableton in your firewall, disable updates in Ableton's settings, turn on Internet, enjoy.

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posting again bc i didnt get any feedback last time i posted this. Im not exactly sure where to take this, whether to keep it nice and soft with the rhodes and the electric piano and maybe a bell or to slap some synths on there. any feedback wuold be appreciated

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I'm just trying to come up with a concept for a Justice-style album. Or we can talk the future of electro-pop music. Where do you think Cross album music should go? Do you think being meticulous and surgical.
I know the sound quality I want, but I want someone who brings a different mindset to the table to make something sounded good - and THEN once the music was written for the entirety of the album, or nearly completely written, they looked for samples, and during that sample scouring they discovered Newjack, Stress and Phantom.
I need another man.
Then why don't you join me? Go make it better. It's Jackon 5 Love is the Thing You Need
So I EQ'd things to the best of my ability and tried to make it about the Cross album, simple as that. I think that album was and is difficult to do, but everyone online pumps them up to be so. You just take a heavy low-end kick (mine might be acoustic - I can't remember) and remove some of the stuff they used, but again, I don't hear 400 sampled sounds on the record. I do believe they changed their sound because I feel like timeless EDM albums are products of sampling. But how to take Cross one step further idk. It's why both DP and JUST are regressing into more modern music for their albums. They sampled something you can analyze. No one's going to find another Newjack or Phantom sample. I'm sure music has been combed top to bottom.
Instead, Justice did.
Anyone want to join me?
This is why I need a music partner who knows the French touch sound and might have some new ideas. I can't brainstorm it alone.
I did find some old demos by Justice from 2003. kek. They've been producing longer than I thought.
You don't have an aim.

>M-Audio AV32
you NEED 8 inch for electronic music those shitty speakers can only reach 80hz, you're better off buying a pair of edifier or microlab at that point

If you can teach yourself about chords and their functions and how to create interesting progressions you'll have 80 percent of what you need right there. Melody becomes a byproduct of the harmonic movement.

pls gib feedback on the mixing
instaud.io/3XSa
instaud.io/3XSb
also, a question. Is it ever a good idea to use fruity soft clipper on master track? I always put it there after leveling (even if there's some minor clipping) and it sounds fine, punchier even

why do you need an interface for that genre?

So chords are basically the backbone of it all? (aside from rhythm of course)

>instaud.io/3XSa
Not bad, but the piano sounds a little too synthetic for my tastes. Try high-passing it and adding some reverb.
>instaud.io/3XSb
Better, but it could use some more elements in the mix. Add some pads and some high frequency content to flesh it out some more. Also think that tremolo gate effect right before the drop is gimmicky, but that's my own preference.
>Is it ever a good idea to use fruity soft clipper on master track?
It depends on the track and what you're trying to accomplish with it. For most projects, I'd recommend against it, but I've had some success playing around with saturators, soft clippers and even Soundgoodizer on the master before. In short, if it sounds good, go for it. Don't expect it to cover up bad mixing though, it'll only make it more apparent.

clyp.it/lmz4t3gg

any feedback

for producing you need an interface regardless of the genre

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Today's meme is a video, but I don't want to make a YT account.
Where should I upload it?

Horses in my ass

what instruments do you need to record for those genres? a mic?

it's for an monitors and headphones stop being so dense man

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what a fuckin nerd

you dont even know which monitors you want. you probably have been producing shit for a month and that shitty gear isnt going to help you. fuckin yuropoos

Thanks, really appreciate it!

You should condense the first 16 bars into 8, one of trap's biggest strengths is its immediacy and listeners are conditioned to that immediacy. Having a shorter anticipation phase will help with listener retention.
Those bright synth melodies are too generic sounding, add some more effects to them to make them your own.
The 808s are just a little too forward in the mix, bring them back a little bit to let the other elements take the lead.
The transition at 1:51 is too awkward, it seems tonally out of place. I'd recommend cutting it altogether, but if you're hellbent on keeping it in the track, you can remedy it by signaling the transition with a drum fill or melodic lead-in, something to that effect. In fact, drum fills across the board will help maintain listener interest better than the reversed cymbal would.
The piano in the coda sounds way too synthetic as well, play with filters and reverb to mask it better.

I know this sounds like a lot, but I admire that you're willing to flesh out an idea over the course of a track. It's a quality that I find lacking in most trap producers. Keep it up.

No problem.

I would love to watch you scowl into my eyes while you destroy my bussy Dr. Peterson

you are not responding to the original user
go rant about minimalism and how buying vsts is a waste on reddit

>I always feel as if I need to learn every single scale out there in order to follow/play what I actually want to hear.

You feel this way because it's true. Just realize here are only twelve scales to remember, and from there all you need to remember are the alterations to scale degrees to get different modes. For example, minor scales are just major scales with a flat 3, 6, and 7.

That's like 80% of the information relevant to understanding scales in popular music. Look up Hanon piano exercises and start practicing.

Meme of the day:
files.catbox.moe/9bow54.mkv

I'm trying to upload the MP4 version for streaming but it doesn't let me.

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you want an interface for better sound quality, lower latency and better performance so your computer doesn't crap itself
besides that you absolutely need it if you have analog gear

pls

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The tape player doesn't work either lol, I need to recap the bad caps to get all the tracks to work and fix the bias on the head.

I just picked up that and the mixer for free this weekend cuz a friend of a friend was moving to Alaska. Not bad cuz the mixer is fully operational and upgradable if I wanna upgrade the pres or anything, and the tape player might be a fun project if it's not a total time/money suck.

He also dropped like 300$ worth of xlr, ¼in cables and snakes on me I am forever grateful to alaska bro.

The launchpad is not really necessary for dnb/techno. Unless you're djing.

I'm gonna be honest with you here, this isn't good. It doesn't sound like you know what you're doing in the slightest. Before you really start writing music, study the fundamentals of music. Tempo, harmony, composition and structure are things that every producer has to know in and out before they start to find success in their songwriting. Theory is undoubtedly helpful, but you don't have to memorize everything about it to write good music. The best advice I could give you at this stage is to take your favorite songs, whatever they may be, and attempt to completely recreate them. It will sharpen your production skills, give you something to do and give you valuable insights into why you like them so much. Don't give up, almost everybody started at the same stage you're at now.

thanks for the feedback

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So I’m trying to use an external drum machine with reaper. I already recorded guitars to the built in reaper metronome. Obviously I can’t hit the button to start the drum machine at the exact time I need to to get it to line up with the recordings. How can I do it short of just using the nudge thing. The metronome and the drum machine will be the same bpm of course

Ah, the famous blofeld hardware controller in the background

>30 plays
>not a single comment
What’s the point of posting here again?

where's your song bro

I only comment on dungeon synth

Alright, that sounds a lot less daunting when you put it that way, I don't think It'll be as much of an issue then to try.

Forget the launchmeme as the other guy stated. More important is monitors. You may consider buying a 2TB drive for all your samples.

I posted 4 in the last thread.

>Then just learn all the remaining modes starting on C as the root for all of them.
>
>from there all you need to remember are the alterations to scale degrees to get different modes.
It's easier to remember that modes are just major scales starting on a different note.
>Hanon
Fuck that shit. Play actual pieces.
Great work, user.
Just record your drum machine audio and then slide it over with your mouse ;)

can you use pre-roll counting in the daw to give you a head start?

>Cmon, use your brain and think of sounds, words or examples as what you want to make. That way I can either explain if I know or direct you somewhere.

I literally just want to make Kero Kero Bonito Wii Shopping Channel 80s training video music

I'm making a sampled album. I just can't deal with digital VST synths. They sound like crap and that's why I dislike most modern EDM. It all sounds cheap, and then you listen to Justice's AVD album and you can immediately tell they used analog gear. I'm going for a micro sampled sound with VSTs that are modeled specifically on certain real analog synths like Tal-U-No. I had more fun doing that anyway and it sounds better.

what i did today
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i need to stop fucking posting mannnn i'm breaking all my personal rules

nobody cares but it's resampling the guitar from a pop punk song i did in post-anime-depression into a lo-fi/boombap thing.
god i'm fucking bummed today especially thinking about KA wtf

I’ll try it. It probably won’t get me dead on where I need to be but it might be close enough
I can do that and if I get it really close through adjusting it then it might sound ok for a little bit but I’ve tried it with longer songs and eventually it gets all out of sync

wanna collab?

For those who can also tell the difference between digital and analog synths:

producerspot.com/best-hardware-analog-synthesizers-emulation-vst-plugins

I'm gonna give some of these a whirl.

Sure.

arturia synths are quite shitty, tal is ok but not great

3 way leggo

Here's a blanket I made yesterday;

instaud.io/3XpH
I like it!

if possible you should maybe lower the bpm a little and try paying a bit more attention to the groove

you'll get better :)

dont be shy to raise the levels on the other elements in the track - I enjoyed this one in the last thread too

solid mix, I'd saturate things a bit more :)

I'd love to hear this but can't open your file :(

I care :3 sounds good user. I can hear some dissonant artifacts in your samples that would be ez to EQ out of there if you get a chance

godspeed

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>eventually it gets all out of sync
Does your drum machine have midi in? Get a cable or interface and sync your drum machine to the DAW.

I'm going with the Tal. Whatever I can get that sounds as close as possible to the warmth of analog. I'm keeping this song for the project and will expand on it down the line. I added ToTape5 to it at suggestion but I almost don't think it needs it. Anyway, this synth sounds satisfactory to me in tone.

instaud.io/3XUN

I really need to work on the first song for the album and I need to get the theme worked out. Ayy lmao themed album with the first song being a response to Daft Punk's "Contact" and a warm sounding masterpiece due to sampling that would sound masterful played on vinyl? I think so.

I’m digging it. Made me feel something I haven’t in a long time and reminded me of something I did a while ago. Rather, I resonated with your post and it made me really listen to your clip and could empathize with your feelings.
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Imo you need more drum grooves. Same feeling or groove for each but pick out different sampled one shots.

I’m unsure if I really understand your goal but it seems to me like you are aiming for a style of vaporwave that exists. Which is good because there’s your proof of concept of people wanting to listen to your music. Most of the vids I’ve come across were mixes but those still have 20k views each and there are tons. Pretty good exposure.

Here it is in WebM form:
i.4cdn.org/wsg/1563508729091.webm

Anyone with a YT account, feel free to upload it (hopefully the higher quality MKV version) if you want. I don't mind.

>instaud.io/3XUN
I unironically like this

lmao this is great

holy shit

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Does this have the potential to become a soundcloud hit? It's in draft mode right now. I'm thinking of vocally having an over-intelligentized blend of Playboi Carti + Post Malone & the lyrics will be about finding one's sacred swag thru an enigma. I know you guys will just brush this off as another redundant trap beat, which it is, but I have a vision for this. Going to implement more stuff into it for a more cinematic feel. Lemme know what can be improved.

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Watch out bro I’m gonna distort you again.

It does have a midi input. I’ll look into that thank you

If you're shit and don't seem like you were shit on purpose you get told.
Otherwise you're OK or you're so bad people think you're trolling.

based

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DO IT PUSSY !! YOU THINK LIL DISTORTION WILL SWAY THIS !! NO CHANCE BUCKO !! C'MON! ! BRING IT !

No, not vaporwave, this:

youtube.com/watch?v=_vcfFogzcgE
youtube.com/watch?v=9oBeelzb8q0
youtube.com/watch?v=nknDqFENQxk
youtube.com/watch?v=J67nkzoJ_2M
youtube.com/watch?v=f4B9Q0HB9_0

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Finally finished this up.
Looking for some feedback.
Made in LMMS.

>Stickerbrush Symphony
muh
Grab some soundfonts created from samples ripped from SNES and N64 games and start making some choons.
youtube.com/watch?v=fhPgbkuK9Ts

It would be better without the cringey dialogue samples.
Music is pretty good.

How do you use soundfonts though? And should I feel bad for using them when I haven't really played any of these old ass 90s games?

>How do you use soundfonts though?
plogue.com/products/sforzando.html
No. Don't feel bad.
90s isn't old ass though.
t. old man

>90s isn't old ass though.
I was born in 1999

yes you should feel bad because they were good games, try playing at least donkey kong country 2

I'll guess I'm OK. Feelsokman.

Yeah I might reuse the music for something else.

Incredible lol. The text generator had me in tears too.

If I can get an N64 I will.

>I care :3
ily always

thanks for the sympathy i feel like crying right now i feel so stupid lmao

i like your song, are you the dubstep user from last night?

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NEEDS SOME SIRENS DOOT DOOT

Actually it was empathy since I've felt my fair share of isolation and despair. From my current perspective it was a very necessary part of my life as it helped me eventually find what brought me some joy again and slowly move on. Maybe that can brighten your outlook on the future a bit lol. And yes that was me last night, thank you bro.

ye listen to this guy, we've all been there

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Needs more S A T U R A T I O N.

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I feel you. It's cliched but it's that yin/yang shit- suffering can make you more empathic and see things in a brighter light when they're going good

(i was the i'm so fucking tired guy if you remember that song lol)

why would you do that just use an emulator, donkey kong country wasn't even on n64

Thanks i appreciate the help

emulators are gross

Also, if it's a keygen, rather than a crack. Then you can launch it in a sandbox (Sandboxie. Or more recently, if you're on the newest update, Win10 Sandbox, you can read how to set it up online). It isolates the app from your pc, so that it doesn't get infected, in case there's something funky about it.

this thread sucks

don't listen to these niggers monitors are only good if you have a perfect acousticly treated room, get fucking headphones, get a daw. its all you need. (and a pc) and just whack away, don't spend loads of money on stuff when you might not even enjoy or like production in the end.

all of this is wrong except partially the last statement and you sound like a huge asshole user

instaud.io/3XWA
LLOL i hate you

stick to pictures pizza boy

how is it wrong? what good are monitors gonna be if your room sounds like shit?
headphones like dt770's are cheaper and easier especially when you are learning

this nigger hasn't stepped foot in a daw, you really want to make him buy a studio set up when he doesn't even know he will enjoy it? fuck me just get some decent headphones and a cracked version of ableton and if you enjoy then sure think about the other stuff

go on gumtree, launchpads go on there for like £30 all the time, same with the interface. and midi keyboards legit like £50

soundfonts are kinda cool but kinda shitty
still doesn't really help me with my composition

clyp.it/nc3eqmou

>abstract rules
Then try to understand why the rules are actually there

go pirate melodic flow

why are they there

>arturia synths are quite shitty, tal is ok but not great
Wut? Why are they shitty?

>why are they there
Nigga do you expect me to write a book length reply to you when there is more than enough resources on this online? Use you're are googling skills

whats that? whats it gonna do? People keep suggesting sounds to me but what I really need help with structure. That's why I like tutorials, I can see what the music is supposed to look like. But there's almost no tutorials for the stuff I really want to make. Or if there is, the producers use samples.

because he's a fucking retard, ignore him.

nigger, listen right here okay

take the song you are trying to emulate in whatever genre, put it in your DAW, take the track you've made and arrange it EXACTLY how the track you are trying to emulate has been done. then if it works well it works well, if it needs minor tweaks then go ahead.

the biggest redpill of the industry is all arrangement is just copied from someone else.

>tfw making true music from the heart is repetitive loop music with two tracks for me

what did the muse mean by this?

that's just techno man

>nigger

youtu.be/RIMDm5ENsbM

Tips on this style?

clyp.it/5hqrzf0k

any feedback

So I got Roland's Juno 106 VST. It sounds just like a real one imo. No more cold sounding, dead digital synths. Once I get hailed as a musical genius and make hundreds of thousands of dollars I'll buy hardware, but until then, only faithful recreations of analog gear for me.

>Composing music harmony-first
first sign that your music is shit

huh, i didn't know i wanted to make music like this until just now, thanks mane

>tips
idk start with a really good progression?

y u /negativepost/ bro

in what order do you compose your music

Timbre first

>using roland's offical garbage
>not using tal-u-no-lx

this, but don't spend hours on it. Melody and rhythm are the most important part. A truly creative and honest musician makes the chords fit into the melody, not the other way around. Unless you're making jazz, and I'm sure no one on /prod/ has the skills for jazz

All his stuff is 10/10

Playing a melody over chords is a lot easier than harmonizing a melody. I don't know why you'd need to be a jazz cat for it.

>is a lot easier
And a lot more limiting and less organic. Less "from the heart". I'm not talking about level of difficulty, it's level of importance. In jazz harmony is the priority, that's why I mentioned it. everything else should be melody first.

the best one yet

>what're some cool devices to download?
I mostly use the default ones (mainly the envelopes, lfos, etc.), Granulator 2, and the ones I make.
The rest I mainly just look for them as I need something specific, and I use them once or twice.
Check out the most downloaded or highest rated ones on maxforlive.com/
Also these are pretty high quality: ableton.com/en/packs/#?item_type=max_for_live but you'll have to pirate them (or make a trial account for the free ones).

Did you install the full Max or just M4L?
Which version?

>how long until i learn enough to hit run patch and an album pops out like autechre?
What's the life expectancy where you live?

where can I pirate serum?

Rutracker

this is nice dude keep it up

clyp.it not allowed?

thanks

clyp.it/user/ty4rnvxg

would like some feedback on these two, pretty new to this stuff. in particular i'd like to hear about sound choice (using more cohesive drum kits), melodies (these beats feel quite barebones to me somehow, even if i was going for a more stripped down vibe) and more so than anything mixing and fx

on the older one i didnt bother to properly arrange yet, but i might still do so

sounds nice. how did u do the drums?

built in effects are bad including the filters, the ui looks cool but is often impractical and it bloats the filesize of the vst
roland>tal however tal is not a cpu hog and usually offers more functions, their stuff is cheap too

First beat sounds like making a touchdown from outer space. Bring space imagery to my feel.

Second beat has this cool whale cry sampled.

Sounds well produced.

hahahahaha

just bought omnisphere did i do wrong chat?

pepega af

What's the difference between making an instrumental hip hop beat and making a beat that is to be rapped over?

basically nothing, saying "it needs a rap to be good" is a copout for shitty beatmakers

with a beat you'd leave the frequencies that need to be taken up by the vocalist out, whereas the instrumental you can do whatever basically. but as the other person its just a massive cop out

how do I make this piano riff/arpeggio or what ever it's called

youtube.com/watch?v=YzW-qmHiFsI
youtube.com/watch?v=AkXOF_lr2_M

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If you mean the sounds themselves, it’s just samples from kits. Daw is FL , thanks a lot :)

Haha thanks man, yeah I’ve been wanting to incorporate whale sounds for a while, there’s this one p well known record which is basically just 40 minutes of high quality whale songs, need to cop

One thing that suprised me about modern (mainstream) hiphop beats is how low key the snares are sometimes. They don't really hit *that* hard when you actually pay attention. I (and millions of people I imagine) obsess with having the snare be super crisp and loud when it's really just not necessary and having it at a lower volume is fine too.

instaud.io/3Y3E
Git gud

Unironically as a singer, songwriter and pianist how should I go about finding other young producers/musicians? I live in Miami by the way

Ask every user ITT if they want to join you.

unironically wanna collab bro

do you like french house?

do you like justice?

>default ones
I installed the m4l x64 that you linked, there were no defaults though, it's just that console and let me start opening stuff in live

I don't make hip hop but I'm noticing that in general the initial transient of a snare is often not that loud and all the energy is moved in the mid section, the tail can be long but is always quieter than you would expect

dance music manual says timbre last

If you intend it to be rapped over make the lead less present during verses, that's about it.

hey thanks man i appreciate it :3

how do I create a sense of groove in dance music?
I understand concepts like onbeat, backbeat, offbeat, syncopation and so on, but I can't apply it into producing engaging rhythms
to make things as clear as possible: in a 4/4 house track, if I want to create a traditional groove (strong 1 and 3, weak 2 and 4) should I just accent everything on the 1 and 3? kicks, hats, other percs and bass?

> but I always feel as if I need to learn every single scale out there in order to follow/play what I actually want to hear.
"I feel like I need to increase my knowledge of vocabulary to read more books".
Well, yeah.
>Would it just be better to learn how to play individual songs or would that be too far out of the way or too "narrow" of a practice to actually improve my piano playing skills?
Theory and skill are intertwined, but not the same thing. Skill is getting better at hitting the keys, theory is WHY you hit the keys.
Piano isn't rocket science. Best case? Find a local piano tutor, start taking lessons. Almost as good, get some of the books on theory everyone who's anyone recommends, like Koska and Payne's tonal theory book.
> theory feels like an endless void of abstract rules with no clear way of actual implementation.
Most beginners feel like that in the beginning. Just start chipping away at the basics - go to point zero, start from there, like everyone else does. The more you dive in, and the more time you spend on it, the more will make sense. You should get a "lightbulb over the head' moment from time to time, when it all starts to come together. You're attempting to learn a new language, of course it's overwhelming. Learn songs, to get some feel of success and reward, and put some time in every day on practice, training your hands, brain, and ears.

It's like they need to invent something...oh, I don't know, let's call it "time coding".

Crack a manual, dude. The tools you need, you already have. Learn where they are, and how to use them.

You should find them here:
cdn-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/M4L/max-for-live-essentials/9.5/r40143/MaxforLiveEssentials_r40143_v2.0.alp
Also I forgot to mention this other one I use pretty regularly:
cdn-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/M4L/convolution-reverb/10.0/r47747/ConvolutionReverb_r47747_v1.0.alp

If you manage to get a trial account working, could you post the direct links (like the two above) for these two packs please?
ableton.com/en/packs/cv-tools/#?item_type=max_for_live
ableton.com/en/packs/probability-pack/#?item_type=max_for_live
I made an account but the trial page just has a DL button for some trial verison of Live. Maybe they changed their policy becuse you used to be able to download everything within 30 days of making the account.

>instaud.io/3XUu
why is posting against your rules?

where is the blueface poster?

Nevermind, you have to start the trial from the program:
help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209071129-Live-Trial-Installation-and-Setup
I think I'm gonna pass on that lol.

the best way is to find something that you like and try to jam it along with any instrument, even using your fingers as drumsticks if necessary

>blueface
Did you mean me friend?

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Dance music manual is a meme

dance music manual should be rewritten from scratch every six months

meh it aint thaaaaaaaat bad but i do agree

thx bb
if i get it working i'll post em

np.

>if i get it working i'll post em
Don't do it just for me. Only if you'd have done the trial thing anyway.

>the rules
in general i think posting songs is strictly for seeking specific feedback or criticism on unfinished work- the reason for posting a song that's finished or you're somewhat confident in is basically just seeking validation, which i've been guilty of for the past few weeks.
Also i'm an advocate of anonymity and keeping namefags/identifiable-anons in general to a minimum; a lot of my songs use identifiable sounds and if I posted them more often it would be obvious who I am

cdn2-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/ableton/bomblastic/9.0b50/r29281/Bomblastic_r29281_v1.0.alp
cdn2-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/ableton/breakbeats-by-kutmasta-kurt/9.0.1/r29816/BreakbeatsbyKutMastaKurt_r29816_v9.0.alp
cdn2-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/ableton/cyclic-waves/9.0b45/r29169/CyclicWaves_r29169_v9.0.alp
cdn2-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/ableton/designer-drums/9.0b50/r29204/DesignerDrums_r29204_v9.0.alp
cdn2-downloads.ableton.com/livepacks/ableton/digicussion-1/9.0b50/r29280/Digicussion1_r29280_v1.0.alp

"access denied" on all but the last two for me, so idk

other half links here lawl
coursehero.com/file/17743594/Ableton-Suite-9-Live-Packs-Download-Links/

Yeah, I have a ton of those links too.
I got the new ones from that time an user posted the credentials for his trial account, but the two packs I wanted came out after that.
I can share them too if you want. They're a bit messy so I'll have to sort them out first.

>"access denied" on all but the last two for me, so idk
They're pretty old, so they've probably been updated and these old versions are now offline.

yeah very fair my g. i can see that

I JUST WANT TO HELP

nah thanks man no need, i'm plenty busy with just the essentials now lol

I greatly appreciate it.
Sorry I didn't say it.

Always feels bad to get mogged by a tracker chad when the girls are around. Drawing in beats in the piano roll vs typing in effortless counterpoint by imagination

Just record the drum machine into a track and cut it correctly, and just move it into place. I dont see the problem here?

>all those m4l links
thanks bros

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Here they are anyway:
pastebin.com/wFECWPuE
The pastebin is going to expire in 24 hours, so make sure to save it before then.

I had another file with some of the paid packs (found through Google and guessing the number) but I can't seem to find it.
If I do I'll post it here.
This one still has a couple, and you can find most of them on warez sites anyway.

god damn you are too kind man

what's the deal on the live 10 link? I thought these were all packs directly from ableton that just work on any copy- surely that's not a cracked copy? or maybe it's useful for installing samples or something?

You mean the first 8 URLs?
Until recently Ableton was easily cracked by downloading the original version from their servers and creating an authorization file from the R2R keygen.
By having this link you could just change vhe version number and get the latest one, and you could even keep using the keygen from old releases (and when you couldn't, AudioZ always had the new one in the comments), so you could pirate Live much more quickly than by torrenting or using a file sharing site.
Now AFAIK this no longer works so you have to download the cracked installer too for the authorization files to work, but just in case R2R manages to go back to the old method, having those URLs can be handy so I added them in.

>I thought these were all packs directly from ableton that just work on any copy
They should work on the latest one, but if your Live version is older than the one a pack is made for, it's not going to install (pic related).

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anyone got a good download for newest FL 20.5 for mac?

based

rutracker

>not taking the onion pill
never gonna make it

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But I already have a volca, minilogue and strymon bigsky!
edit: gold? Oh my gosh

Hope everyone is having a good Friday

I'm (still) working on making good, professional quality dance music.

This is a
>lofi tech house track

I sampled from Crystal Rainbows - Don Campbell (classic new age record, rec if you like the genre)

I'm proud of this track and would like to make it as polished as possible while obviously maintaining the overall feel.

I'm going to make a music video for this and this will (probably) be the single to my first EP- so -

clyp.it/tapm5ov5?token=837ad5b6ba46d16c2a753f4aa8f38822

>is it "good" enough to be a single?
>assuming you are interested in the genre, did you find the track exciting?
>did anything particularly stick out as shitty (like random pops or horrible drum sample?)
>arranged well?

>somewhat related: opinions on using my real name for release, considering I have a very hispanic name

Anyways if you enjoyed my track and therefore care about my opinion regarding your own music, feel free to reply to me and I'll give feedback, even if you didn't give any to me.

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skimmed through i and i think it's fine, but ***imo*** not particularly compelling.
only thing I would really change is lowering the decay on the clap in the more chill parts or swapping the sample.

but i'm mainly replying just to tell you to not post like you're on reddit with all those fucking spaces to make a huge attention whoring post.
but yeah your song is decent, if i heard it randomly anywhere it wouldn't strike me as randomsoundcloudfag#0921312 or whatever, just not my taste. what i'm guessing is the part you sampled is a nice sound though

Thanks for listening- good call on just putting chillier claps to make contrast

It was meant to be attention grabbing so honestly you’re right it is kinda gay. But when I post just a link with a small description I don’t get replies so I dunno

The sample is anything that’s not drum or bass. Just different parts of the full record essentially selected by scrubbing on Grain. They’re run through grain synth so they’re not straight samples.

Alabama Porch Monkeys.

Let's start a tracker collective; we can call ourselves 4channelists.

clyp.it/fdimb0tl

Shitty song, but hows my rough mixing skills? Did this in about an hour.

>Drawing in beats in the piano roll
eh I stopped doing this years ago

get sequencer plugins that are good or get Reason and get the drum sequencer. It's much more powerful and faster, I'm sure there are VST equivalents

>clyp.it/fdimb0tl
the bass is mixed really weird, I can't exactly describe what about it. The squishyness is unpleasant and its like low passed really hard.

its like a mid bass you tried to take down into the sub category.

Besides that maybe hats too loud

Good track

yeah, really trying to get my top end and midrange right, thanks for the feedback. hats do sound loud, i just referenced on laptop speakers

This is the best answer desu

Can someone help choose the best take
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can anyone tell me how to import audio clips to ableton that are at a different sample rate than the project and have them convert so they don't play back at the wrong pitch? Is there a way to do it while you are still dragging and dropping files from windows explorer?

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I've never had Ableton play files at the wrong pitch, no matter the sampling rate.
Did this actually happen to you?

yes it did before. though I just tried to start a different thing and I imported a clip through drag and drop and now this clip is deactivated and I don't know how to activate it. I'm new to ableton

oh I think the clip is just still loading cause it's big. idk

Maybe it was somehow warped in repitch mode?
To activate or deactivete click on it and press 0 on your keyboard, or just right-click and choose activate/deactivate in the context menu.

clip is deactivated before it loads. live is automatically set to warp the clip to the bpm of the project when you drag it onto the arrangement or session view. Go to settings->record/warp/launch and set "auto-warp long samples" to off

>Go to settings->record/warp/launch and set "auto-warp long samples" to off
thanks this was giving me some problems

thanks

Does anyone know how I can get Ableton to recognize my waves plugins? It only sees one of them GTR guitar something. Do I have to reinstall them?

Not sure about your situation, but I have them as waveshells, which show up in Ableton as folders.

yeah idk, they used to be there but I had to reinstall ableton cause it updated on accident and got unregistered. Only too late did I realize I could have just activated it again without reinstalling it. Now I'm trying to reinstall the plugins see if that works.

instaud.io/3Y9K
150-190 electronic
trash, but its fun to make

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I come from a rock/metal background and I'm having difficulty envisioning a song and all its melodic and harmonic parts using one synth. Should I write the song on guitar where I'm comfortable and then place the chords with the melody on top of it and then after that expand on it with riffs and embellishments later? The thing I have difficulty with is making the synths and all the song's parts sound good and groovy after the fact and I get discouraged in my music even though the song sounds good and interesting on guitar. Maybe I'm simply unconfident in my synth sound design abilities or not impressed by the sound of basic synths enough to want to continue working on the same chord progression. I'm using DVNO and The Party as influences to write a pop song, and what they put the chords at the back and to the side of the mix. Very low key and simply existing in distorted or garage-y ways to give a semblance of harmony to the music and to give room in the mix instead of big super saws.

>Should I write the song on guitar where I'm comfortable and then place the chords with the melody on top of it and then after that expand on it with riffs and embellishments later?

if you're already thinking that why aren't you doing it wtf?

i came in from a rock background too and jumped right into the sound design aspect..... i barely touch my guitars anymore 8]

for what you have in mind your sound design abilities aren't *that* important- you could use presets but in the long run it's better just to know what you're doing so you could design basic ass sounds like that in a couple minutes

Ahhhhhhh I love it. I can imagine some vocal chops from something japanese during the 190 section. You can go full kawaii overload too and use full phrases, maybe run it through the vocoder using your lead line melody.

This user is right but maybe not what you need to hear atm. I highly recommend opening up a bunch of presets with a lead sound, bass, strings etc etc and play around with the melodies in your head. You can focus on sound design later if you want but this way you’ll actually write songs and can always go back to them when you learn more. Presets are meant to be used and if you start thinking of them as starting points instead of set sounds you’ll get out of your own way.

>latest tune is significantly better than the previous one

I'm actually improving boyos :D

good job user! that progress will add up (:

Keep the good vibe going user!

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Kind of topic but does anyone know any software for Mac that can let me change the color of my display. Like how flux changes the tone to warmer yellows and orange based on how late it is. But instead letting me add different color filters for the whole display.

I think my biggest issue is getting over sounding like someone else. Like, Daft Punk's Give Life Back to Music is in Dorian mode iirc and uses a standard Dorian mode progression. If I write a song that sounds similar I would abandon it in the past, but I think I'm looking for chord progressions that are just as good, but simply don't exist. Weird personality quirk of mine I have to work through. I get caught up in all music sounding virtually the same because of limited notes and harmonies in pop music.

Completely new to production; have read the sticky and just downloaded Reaper. What do I download now? Plugins or instruments or whatever? What are must haves? *The sticky doesn't tell this.) Thanks for the suggestions!

>justice fag doesn't know music
weird

i'm being completely serious when i say lurk moar
like lurk this board and literally listen to a bunch of music because what you just said is such bullshit- i know you like muh melodies but there's more to music than can be described in traditional theory

thx 4 reading

depends what you're making. reaper has a lot of effects/mix tools that will do fine for now, i'd say grab whatever catches your eye from vst4free and just have fun, or look up what synths your favorite artist uses and get a free emulation.

there's a video in the pastebin that says something like "Watch this if you don't know synths"
watch that and make some sounds

thanks!!

if you're programming a bass line, is there a way to make it sound like you're doing alternating up/down strokes?

maybe a square wave LFO modulating cutoff, attack, drive and so on?

very based advice

The main trick to Justice's Cross album:they said they made it like a disco-opera album with elements of baroque. I can't find my own style, nor do I want to, because I don't want to sound like them because Cross is the best. Classic ayy lmao masks with the same melody, but the melody and pitched it, creating a weird pinched sound, then he added in random notes outside the main aeolian minor key of the song for seemingly no other reason than to drag the listened to the sample. The thing about the same volume as Cross, that is a loud album and they used unique samples from albums instead of standard sample packs.
I want to make something unique, I still remember when I was listening to Cross so much that I have an ear to what sounds like that album a step further idk. It's why both DP and JUST are regressing into more modern samples. The album would have sounded like a trainwreck without them. There's no way they went from We Are Your Friends to the demo of Let There Be Light. You can hear a gradual improvement of their sound. It's not hard to do if you know not to pump up the bass on the record. I do believe they changed their sound is very towards the middle, yet in my music everything I like (in my youth I liked glam rock, and then metal in my teens) and then EDM

>tfw uninspired

what fucking do?

been thinking about watching youtube tutorials and shit. want to make cool deep house chords with groovy drums

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clyp.it/jovkjsoh

>want to make cool deep house chords with groovy drums
Watch some movies that fit that vibe that would inspire you rather than youtube tutorials.

Wait lololol is this the text generator???

I’m out of town on mobile, no Blueface spam today

Please m8 you text generator tards are worse than justicefag

I flicked my clit to this bruh sick waves keep it up

Glean the mean bean to make it sheen, Charlie.

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Is the MPK mini play the same thing as the MK II it just also works as a stand-alone keyboard?

can you tell me what libraries do you use? I'm not memeing

your drums have improved a lot (:

yandhi type beat

can anyone help me with pirating Ableton for Mac? Every time I try to drop the file to authorize it it says its invalid for the computer.

I think for that beat specifically I used Purity, a Kirby 64 soundfont, and Pluton. Nothing too interesting. The drums are mostly from this SOPHIE Google Drive link I found on Reddit. "rhythmlab monomachine perc".

I feel like the pattern on this beat is way too basic but thank you, it really means a lot. I have trouble with everything but I obsess over drums the most.

I have this one beat I made a year ago, I think before Yandhi was even announced, that sounds like some Yandhi shit. The drums on it are ass but I really wish I remembered how I made that shit so I could make more.

God I miss my beats from before i knew what the fuck I was doing they were so much better

I found it

clyp.it/h0eztj40

thanks
>a Kirby 64 soundfont
fucking genius

youtube.com/watch?v=s6OS1FOQT7U

Anyone know some tips on doing this genre? It's deceptively simple, I've tried doing it and noticed it's not as 4/4 as it sounds. I'm having a hard time getting that booming reverbed kick, rhythms, everything that makes this sound unique.

Throw a good sine bassline and it'll be pretty good.

clyp.it/5hqrzf0k

any feedback

Chop the sample completely different. Sounds repetitive and annoying. Otherwise, alright.

what vst does prod use

Strictly Hive and Bazille. Recently got Hive 2 upgrade and it's pretty nice. Hardware I use Korg O5r/W, MS20, and Virus Access KB

>inviting personal posts

massive for 90% of everything and serum absynth iris2 fm8 reaktor and kontakt (ni pianos and as a sampler) for the rest in that order.... and the guitar rig reverbs/delays + valhalla vintage verb

so yeah komplete 10.
god damn i need to buy 12 just for massive x tho what the fuck i'm a fake massive fan man, haven't even tried the demo yet
.....imma make some secret sounds with it in the 30 minutes or whatever :^)

FL Studio 11 2012 dubstep producer starter kit

Anyone here experienced with CDJs? Long shot but I'm having an issue:

>switch on CDJ-850
>doesn't power up
>standby light blinks red
>have to unplug it until light stops blinking
>plug it back in, switch on
>works now
>this shit happens pretty much every 24 hours

hlep

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Still working on this and replaced the synth with the Juno 106. I'm probably going a different route because it sounds too much like Genesis. I do want the first track to be an ayy lmao response to Daft Punk's "Contact". I'll figure something out tomorrow. I need a driving riff for it and it needs to be powerful, but I'm just not sure how to do that without emulating Genesis.

instaud.io/3Yd2

I'm just gonna scrap it all but the main bass riff unless I can come up with a better one. As long as I can get the first song for the album done right, I'll be set. I'll sample some alien movie soundtracks and maybe that'll provide inspiration.

i still find it baffling that that stereotype got started still gets brought up at all

i actually listened to skrillex's debut ep last week and that shit is almost funny, like it's absolutely soaked in massive's distortion

big meh from me

I listened to it recently too. What caught me is how the fuck did it get as popular as it did? It's almost experimental noise dub.

why does anything children like get popular?

instaud.io/3Yd9

I shid, and then maybe fard

>instaud.io/3Yd9
damnnn senpai i really really like this! got that black kray vibe. u got more stuff?

>how the fuck did it get as popular as it did?
i think it's generally underestimated how open teenagers are to music and what they'll tolerate- a lot of soundcloud rap right now has genuinely shitty mixing, screaming, experimenting....
something drew em to it. i don't like skrillex in general besides some of the newer sound design but i guess it was kind of fun at the time, I was in highschool still when he blew up so yeah

whats synths are used?

yeah at around 30 sec feels too much like a ripoff

What is the best synth ever made and why is it this

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that's not a synth

synth is playing triplets
heavy swing on hihats

it sounded way better with the longer intro and the other softsynth mein dude

just made this, feel like i have a terrible sense of melody and could probably get more out of this beat if i added some melodies, any feedback on that?

clyp.it/qng1izci

yes it is lol, fl studio users make it look like it isnt cause all they use is the presets. but omnisphere is most definitely a synth, more capable than most others. infact it probably is the best synth ever made

side chain is your friend for all things boomy kicks

>cut low end and very high end (+18kHz) from sample
>it goes UP +2dB

explain this

Your ghost producer is playing tricks on you.

Assuming we're talking peak dB here, and there's nothing in the chain between the EQ and whatever you're reading this value from, it's possible that the EQ has some compensation feature that increases the amplitude when you cut frequencies. Maybe it's messing up or something.

But it's most likely that you're not telling us something here, and that increase is perfectly explainable.

if theres absolutely nothing else going on this is pretty much impossible

it's peak dB
I assumed it had to do with another element down the chain, so I turned everything off but the EQ. The peak actually goes up +2dB after I cut like pic related

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That's just the FL sound.

Where are you reading this increase in amplitude?

i dont understand how that eq works, explain it to me

that insert's db meter

pic related

it's a standard parametric equalizer with spectrum analyzer
brighter lines mean more power

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instaud.io/3YiT

I can never not record something after smoking a bowl. Came up with this little jam just now.

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Would you be willing to upload the project somewhere for us to look at?
Just delete everything from it except the sample in question (and its FX chain) and save it as a new version.

here it is

s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=96479166023161171182

if you switch Fruity Parametric on it peaks 2dB higher

I need the sample too.

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Shift things up an octave while writing otherwise it becomes very messy and muddy to have everything sitting at a similar range. Keep hustling cuz.

Nevermind, I'm seeing it happen with my own sample too.

sorry about that

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Your sense of percussive timing is great though. The melodic elements are just flat (tone wise not key wise). I would suggest finding some interesting minor chords (sampled stabs maybe) and making counterpoint for your current melody.m You don't need that much sustain on notes in general, it will leave you a lot more room for extra elements and eventually extra loudness. You want to focus on call and response melodic structure. Oddly enough your percussive groove does it fairly well so you innately understand what I'm bringing up.

Is there an auto crop audio feature in audacity?

I tried a similar cut with fabfilter pro-Q and it also peaks higher after the cut

could this be a phase issue? constructive interference?

I tried this too and the problem seems to disappear when using linear phase mode, so yeah, I'd say that's the problem.

exactly the sort of constructive feedback i was hoping for! thank you very much user. i will bare your words in mind when writing melodies from now on

I wanna get into making electron music. I already play drums so have a good sense for beats but have no music theory knowledge not related to drumming (so idk how chords work for example) and I've no idea how to use a DAW. Should I start learning how to use a DAW or how music theory works first, if I'm fairly unsure on how to really break into actually making stuff?

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What kind of electronic music do you want to make?

yep, it worked
thank you based user

Learn music theory and get a cheap casio with MIDI out. DAWs are for recording and not the place to be creative.

Don't thank me. Thank thank the concept of linear phase itself.
Always solves every problem.

>DAWs are for recording and not the place to be creative
Lmao

I'm mostly into idm (aphex, boards of canada, squarepusher etc), so stuff like that. I know that's not too useful though, as it doesn't have too much theoretically that defines it as a genre (afaik), but yea that's what I listen to and that's what gets me interested in making my own stuff,

I have a small midi keyboard already a friend lent me but I don't know what to do with it

Start learning the DAW obviously. You need to just start working in one, then from there you'll learn the music theory as you go.

The first things you make might sound like shit, but don't let that deter you. Just keep making stuff, you'll start to get a feel for what you want make.

new

I'd stay away from the DAW for a while in that case. Split your learning between theory and sound design on a synth. That'll be your foundation. If you're foundation is shit, it doesn't make any sense recording it and you'll get tangled up between using the daw, production, the actual music and operating a synth.

Sounds good, I'll watch through those new york school of synth videos in the pastebin and get some basics on music theory. Anything else you'd recommend I touch base on before jumping into a DAW, or where I could go after getting through those?

If you're serious about becoming good at music production, follow this:

Download this DAW:
>Win: audioz.download/software/win/156979-download_ableton-live-suite-v1010-incl-patched-and-keygen-r2r.html
>Mac: audioz.download/software/mac/156976-download_ableton-live-suite-v1010-macosx-incl-patched-and-keygen-r2r.html

Then watch this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=H83TxBL3yOE
Or any other one that comes up when searching for "ableton 10 beginner" on YT. This is to give you a general idea of how the program is structured and how the music production process works.
Play around with it and make whatever music you manage to make.

Then to actually learn the program, watch this course:
audioz.download/tutorials/video/142875-download_lynda-ableton-live-10-essential-training-tutorial.html
You can probably torrent it if you don't want to use this site. Check out rutracker.org or torrentz2.cc or whatever tracker you use.

After this, read "The Dance Music Manual 4th edition". It will teach you the basics of all the skills you'll need to learn to produce music, in one place, so you don't waste time watching a million tutorials and reading a million guides with 90% overlapping info just to get that nugget you need.

After this you'll know how to branch out into each "skill" to learn more about it, but don't worry about that yet. Just focus on getting a good foundation that covers all your bases first.

This guy is right in saying that you need to develop your musicianship in order to produce good music, but if your goal is to produce it doesn't really make sense to put off production completely just to focus on becoming a good musician first. You'll hate it and drop music altogether.
I suggest instead to start producing right away, since it's what interests you, and develop your musicianship alongside the production by learning to play the keyboard and/or studying composition and whatnot.

I see, thanks user

I made this recently from scratch (I usually sample) and I'm pretty new to this

clyp.it/0vrocygx

So, I'd love some feedback (particularly about mixing)….I honestly have NO idea how to mix and I'm just going by ear

>Main questions I have

How can I make the instruments I used sound more clear and separated from each other?

Does the outro match the rest of the song at all?

Any info/links about how loud the instruments/drums/crashes/song should be?

Any tips on mixing or making this a better song in general?

I really don't know that much about this, and any feedback at all is appreciated...I'm using FL Studio btw

NP. Glad to help.

Post it in the new thread here