Were they actually good?

t. chris ott

They were good
Overrated but still good

Kurt made in utero to screen plebs like
He said so

Nirvana is the reason I picked up a guitar (33yo boomer). I have listened to all of their albums hundreds, probably thousands of times. In Utero has a few good songs but I dare you to listen to the whole thing without wanting to skip a song. There is a lot of unnecessary and grating feedback and screaming, which to be fair was Kurt's intent, but that doesn't make it sonically pleasing.

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Yes, they were that rare combination of being super popular and hyped up beyond belief and actually being a decent band to back it up. Although there were better bands at the time and since, they are worthy of praise.

literally Nevermind is the pleb album, it was too polished and really was the worst in terms of what they wanted to be. Even Kurt said this himself. In Utero is the best along with Bleach, Nevermind is the worst in their lineup.

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kurt only said that because he was afraid of losing his indie cred or whatever. if you watch interviews before it got so massively popular all three of them express satisfaction with how the album sounds.

Even if that's true you can hear that everything sounds very tinny as well as being pretty low in volume with it's highs and lows. Devonshire Mix is the best in regards to listening to Nevermind, no song is bad on the album but it's how it wants to be a noise album but deludes all the noise. Even the single versions of the songs are a different mix from the album.

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meant for

Say what you want, but those recordings have stood the test of time. It's no Aja, but that album sounds great and does exactly what it intends to.

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Yeah, pretty good.
youtube.com/watch?v=HKjEhq55ouE

>actually likes AJA
the songs have stood not the mixes, most people find that the mix of Nevermind is awful. I don't know how you like the vanilla version of made to just be a normies first noise album but okay.

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In Utero is a noise album. Nevermind is a pop-rock record, and obviously they did something right.

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>most people
[citation needed]

They're alright. In Utero is good, the rest of it is okay.

If Nevermind is too tinny then In Utero is too muddy. I mean, let's not pretend they were completely satisfied with that mix either. And the production on Bleach just feels sort of powerless, the live versions of songs like School and Blew from the Paramount concert are far better.
>it's how it wants to be a noise album but deludes all the noise
I don't think nevermind is really trying to be a noise album though. Kurt was really good at two things: simple, heavy-ish-but-not-too-heavy riffs, and catchy pop melodies. Nevermind reflected the latter of his talents, Bleach was more of the former, and In Utero a mix of the two. Kurt said he was trying to write 'the ultimate pop song' with teen spirit; I think he was trying to make his version of a pop album with Nevermind (even if that kind of embarrassed him), and he succeeded in that regard.
Maybe Nevermind could have been a bit rougher and less polished, but I don't really think it makes it pleb tier. They should have put Aneurysm on their though.
>Even the single versions of the songs are a different mix from the album.
Isn't that In Utero, where they got Scott Litt to remix them?

why they didn't use this version of aneurysm on incesticide?
youtube.com/watch?v=3zEyHbZzhWg

Probably because on the intro riff he does that annoying bend thing on the guitar instead of just going to the power chord. Also background vocals are much weaker than the final version. Regardless, the song rocks and is in my opinion one of their best tunes.

I prefer the bend thing in the intro lol. The scream is a lot better too. And yeah I honestly reckon it's better than anything off nevermind or bleach.

I like them a lot. I'm not gonna sit here and argue that they were the best band of all time or anything, but what they released was quality
Bleach
8/10
Nevermind
7/10
In Utero
9.5/10
Incesticide
7.5/10

In Utero did it was well, but Nevermind's singles are more akin to the Devonshire Mix.

The only song I ever want to skip is Frances Farmer, and that's one of the least abrasive songs on the album. The most intense, exciting moments on the album are the "feeback and screaming".

Rape me is the worst on In Utero

>Incesticide over Nevermind
le contrarian meme

which is why Scentless Apprentice and Milk It are the best tracks, along with Heart Shaped Box, RFUS and All Apologies.

I respectfully disagree.

Good choices, I also like Serve the Servants

Rape Me is so obviously a low-effort filler track. It gives a glimpse into what Nirvana's future could have been. Just like RHCP have generic funk jam with yelling and singing #61 if they need to pad out an album. Sometimes I think we as listeners got lucky because Foo Fighters' first 2 albums are very likely better than whatever fan-loathing crap Kurt would have thrown at us.

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What makes it "low-effort filler" particularly?

really simple, unlike ... all the other nirvana tracks, r-right?

youtube.com/watch?v=Sc2m4w9h0cw
absolutely mogged here by these chads

literally who?

Oh wow. When the boybands start covering you, you know you've made it.

The main riff, which constitues pretty much the whole song, is almost the same phrasing and tempo as Smells Like Teen Spirit. The lyrics contain like 22 total words. There is absolutely nothing outstanding about other than the semi-offensive title that WalMart changed to "Waif Me". It is a low-effort tune, even by Nirvana's standards.

So it wasn't lyrically or instrumentally complex? Neither was half their discography. The track was all about Kurt's vocal delivery and the shock value of the lyrics, which were both home runs imo (especially at the time).

I don't hate the song or anything, I just have always felt it was a filler track and possibly representative of a songwriters' block.

No

I dunno man, it's not like the record needed padding. If you cut Rape Me, In Utero would still be long enough - and there were plenty of outtakes from that era which DID get cut. I think the band were happy with it.