This is the Pet Sounds of Hip Hop

>I genuinely don't understand how someone can claim to like music and not think this album is brilliant.
Ironically enough I've never seen someone with a taste that doesn't consist of entry-level genre tourist garbage that ever defended this album.

Adam Neely

Black people wouldn't listen to an album made by a white racist so why should white people faun over an album made by someone who hates them?

Adam Neely has garbage taste in music, and makes garbage music as well.

bro bro I've been on archival/reissue shit way deeper than Yea Forumscore for years, this album is a proper masterpiece.

man by any metric on this pedantic fucking board, I'm a "patrician (hurr durr)," I play classical music, I have a successful experimental electronic music project, and I'm an avid record collector.

From music theory to just stylistic approach, TPAB is undeniably brilliant.

How can you listen to a song like For Free and not be amazed at how he stays in the pocket throughout that crescendo at the end? This whole joint makes my jazz school friends shit themselves because it's such an uncompromising synthesis of jazz and hip hop, that they've never seen before.

I'll admit butthurt whiteboys aren't the ONLY reason a serious music listener wouldn't like it, I've often seen people just negatively reacting to the hype around it, which is admittedly less pathetic, but still pretty irrational.

Are you a racist white person?
If not, then Kendrick doesn't have a problem with you.

It's strange that you'd conflate normal white people with overtly prejudice white people (in the context of this album's narrative).

nuance my man

So then imagine a white person making an album about black people, but only the bad black people

I have a correct opinion machine and it says TPAB is shit.

Now tell me, how does For Free differs from the legions of bland and forgettable avant-garde jazz that keeps coming en masse every year?

Oh yeah that song about black dick is so crazy bro, truly patrician

(seriously how can any self-respecting person listen to such juvenile shit without shame?)

And I'll add to this,
So much of the album also has to do with self-defeating black mentalities that get ingrained when you grow up in a black ghetto.

It just seems like the vitriol towards this album comes from an utter ignorance (or just straight up denial) of the black struggle (historically).

With that being the case, that's just your ass's fault for not paying attention in U.S. history. To be fair, general history courses don't do nearly as well as they should to go in-depth as to the layers of institutionalized fuckery that have been stacked against American blacks over the years, but if you want I could go into it while I finish my breakfast.

>post grabs my attention
>look up the song
>lyrics are the first thing that show up
lmao shut the fuck up, bro. it's straight nigger noise

It's Black Messiah retards

Well first off, it's not avant-garde jazz by any means. Free Jazz influenced, but there's a lot of like ornette coleman and big band mingus vibes in there. By and large it's a pretty established sound in Jazz going back to the 60s.

And none of those forgettable avant-garde jazz works have a goat rapper expertly rhyming about sexual double-standards built into them.

I guess you could just say those are forgettable and bland because they're not doing anything relatively new, and this was (and very well).

What do think this song is about, son?

You can over-simplify and mischaracterize it all you want, but it's obviously a song about sexual double standards.

i.e. how women look at their sex/company as something deserving of more value than the male equivalent.

bruh, people talk differently than you in different areas, you can't just apply the rules of whitespeak to black people, you'll be out here sounding crazy.

i only got through like the first stanza and skimmed through it while he was talking about his dick. i don't know what it's about and i don't give a fuck. you can't have a message while acting like a turbo nig at the same time and expect everyone to listen or to take you seriously. and it's not because of racism, it's because that behavior isn't respectable in a civilized society. like he's obviously a reasonably intelligent person, he knows how to speak properly

>fuck you nigga, you aint shit nigga nigga nigga
that's where i change the station

That album would be looked at as extremely extraneous because

1) The whole issue with racism is that all blacks are mischaracterized as "The Bad Black Person," so the album would just be parroting racial stereotypes...sounds like boring art

2)TPAB is about the system/institutions that have been created/enforced by "bad white people," no such systems exist for/by "bad black people," so it'd just be a pointless exercise.

Are you an old victorian woman?

Like seriously, you can't be a well adjusted young person and be this radically posh.

This is posh extremism, fucking erudite al-qaeda over here.

And if we're going to look at it from a historical perspective, just look at how financially crippled the black educational complex has been for ever. For the first couple hundred years of America, as a people, blacks were literally at threat of death and torture if they LEARNED TO READ.

And yet you're expecting black people to talk exactly the same as a suburban white mom.

Nice contextual comprehensions skills, my main man.

You should get 2 - 4 black friends, you'll have fun and learn stuff and themselves and yourself. Positive growth and compassion, my dude.

>And if we're going to look at it from a historical perspective, just look at how financially crippled the black educational complex has been for ever. For the first couple hundred years of America, as a people, blacks were literally at threat of death and torture if they LEARNED TO READ.
gimme a break. less blacks were lynched in us history than die in chicago in a year. and in most cases it wasn't because they drank from the wrong fountain

and even if that were true, which it isn't, that's still no excuse. if you want respect you have to act in a respectable manner. you can blame whitey all you want but the actual truth is blacks have themselves to blame just as much because they embrace their own ignorance and talking like that only helps perpetuate it

ok I'm done with my breakfast, y'all.

But seriously take an african american studies class, and challenge yourselves to think the same way afterwards as you did before.

If you're too scared, chances are you know deep down that your beliefs won't hold up (or you've concocted some conspiracy theory about inherent white prejudice in academia to insulate your views from valid criticism).

deuces

>i'm right, and if you don't agree with me it's because you're scared
>if you don't think kendric lamar's album is a masterpiece you're just a butthurt whiteboy
fuck off idiot. you're not winning anyone over with these rhetorical devices

it's true
i love my little neely tho

man i'm not here to defend the record, but if this is the issue you have, i'd hate to see what you consider art.
you might want to check out r/music or something, probably more your speed

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wrong album mate

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You say that like Pet Sounds is some legendary album to begin with

...free jazz is a subgenre of avant-garde jazz.
>And none of those forgettable avant-garde jazz works have a goat rapper expertly rhyming about sexual double-standards built into them.
This isn't interesting
>I guess you could just say those are forgettable and bland because they're not doing anything relatively new, and this was (and very well).
Just rapping over some generic avant-garde jazz isn't revolutionnary in any way, shape or form.
Why should I do that? Your arguments haven't changed the way I think whatsoever. There has been plenty of great african american artists, Kendrick isn't one of them, that's all.

Musically it's total garbage. Untitled Unmastered is much better.

This
>you have to be a Victorian not to be absolutely fascinated by this nigger talking about his cock!
I hate to break it to you user...

Its not even that good
mess of an album sonically

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>But seriously take an african american studies class
holy shit lmao

>the actual state of maga kids
you faggots are making me miss the redneck Bush fanboys, think about that

u are so fucking wrong

best rap album of the decade is still yeezus

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>reddit spacing
>take an african american studies class
>no argument
holy shit this is some good bait

This
Both are some of my favorite albums

By the time you hear the next pop. THE FUNK WILL BE WITHIN YOU