Wtf? When did fantano become so based and redpilled?

Yeah the irony is that mass immigration primarily benefits big business. If it didn't, it wouldn't be allowed. It's hilarious to see self-proclaimed leftists using GDP arguments to defend mass immigration, like the fucking bootlickers they really are

Why does some pleb tier music reviewer think I care about his political debate screencaps?

His spiel about legal immigration is exactly the same as Ben Shapiro, Dan Crenshaw, Jeb Bush and other cringe normiecons.

>They would directly contribute to the tax base
No they fucking wouldn't. Third world immigrants are a tax minus in every viritually western nation taking them in. Fantano is so extremely full of shit you almost forget that he used have an entire series mocking Bern-outs during the 2016 election.

Immigration is objetively good from an economic stand point. It also is becoming necessary, as the average age of western countries gets higher and higher. Having a large portion of your population nearing pension age, with few workers to replace them is not good for making money. Unless you want to genocide everyone after retirement, or keep increasing retirement age forever. It's already nearly 70 years old...

>Immigration is objetively good from an economic stand point.
Only under conditions where the immigrants are comming from develped, culturally similar or high IQ nations and the nation recieving the immigrants has a heavily restricted welfare system and a relatively unregulated labor market. Otherwise you end up imporinting hundreds of thousands of car-burning welfare leeches, as is Sweden where we have had to raise the pension age to pay for all the migrants (of course officially it's because "we are getting older").

the problem with the left is that they just ignore race or differences between groups.
you can definitely make the argument that america or europe need immigrants because of the low birthrates the problem is theres a differnce between taking in million of japanese or a million of mexicans or pakistanis

shut the fuck up, we are all the same and bleed the color red. get the fuck out of here with your neo nazi shit. race isnt real, everybody is the same and it's all culture difference inside your head.

(citation needed)

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It's good for the GDP, not for PPP per capita. Obviously having more people earning and spending money in a nation increases the overall size of the economy, but there's absolutely no guarantee that any of the advantages of that trickle down to the average worker. Mostly it just means that there's more competition for jobs, which permits employers to reduce wages and working conditions, more competition for housing, which permits landlords to increase rent, and puts a strain on the public infrastructure which is never upgraded commensurately with the rate of the expanding population, particularly in poor districts

shut the fuck up neoliberal douche, go fill out spreadsheets or something for your office job

Explain measurable IQ differences between nations
brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

A lot of claims with nothing but your feelings to back them up.
>They would directly contribute to the tax base
If they are a legal citizen they would or registered in some capacity, or are you purpsefuly ignoring what he said so you can continue justifying your unfounded beliefs?
>tax minus
Do you know what this means? Do you know that illegals are not entitled to any of the government services, aside from emergency medical, because you know, they aren't citizen? Did you know that since they live in the US, they spend money on continue livingn the US, paying taxes on all those purchases?

>Only under conditions where the immigrants are comming from develped, culturally similar or high IQ nations
According to who? Stefan Molymeme? What the fuck do I care if my builder or plumber has the smae IQ or is culturally similar to me? I have about as much in common with Jose and Mohammed as I do with Jerry, the huwite plumber from Montana. All I care about is if they can get the job done, and their employer only cares about having to pay them less for the same hours.

>heavily restricted welfare system
Illegals don't get welfare. You can only claim some benefits if you have DACA or LPR status.

>relatively unreagulated labor market
Like the US? Where they can get exploited constantly by people like Trump, while claim to be against immigration.

>Sweden
Okay, now I can disregard everything you say. Show me some statistics of Sweden on it's economic situation. I bet you haven't even looked at a single piece of data on Sweden, and are just going by what Lauren Southern videos said 5 years ago, telling you her "on the ground" opinion of the state of the country.

Compare that data to a nation's wealth and education infrastructure. Are you really surprised that countries where children are starving don't have the most well developed brains?

>What the fuck do I care if my builder or plumber has the smae IQ or is culturally similar to me? I have about as much in common with Jose and Mohammed as I do with Jerry, the huwite plumber from Montana. All I care about is if they can get the job done, and their employer only cares about having to pay them less for the same hours.

Of course that stuff doesn't matter to a middle-class champagne socialist but to Jerry the plumber he's being undercut out of a business and having his local community flooded with people from an alien culture who have no interest in mingling with the pre-existing residents and indeed often actually ideologically despise them

He needs to stop engaging with these fools. Nothing good will come of it and he risks fucking his money up.

You can take your smooth brained race realism bullshit back to pol. You realise that if people weren't so hostile to people who speak a different language/look different, the whole situation would be a hell of a lot better. Most of my friends are children of immigrants, and they are no different to any other person.

>there is a difference between a million japanese and a million mexicans
Yeh, sure there is a difference. One is has a very young average immigrant age, the other is the oldest nation on the planet. The japs would also want much higher wages, and wouldn't be interested in doing low tier manual labor.

>Sweden had to raise pension age to support migrants
Do you have proof or is this just something you feel has happened?
>"we are getting older" is a conspiracy to justify raising pension age to support migrants
Do you even take a moment to consider what you are saying? Are you implying that average ages in the west aren't rising? That birthrates aren't falling? And that these countries are taking in large numbers of immigrants for no reason at all? Or some nefereus plan to replace all white people so they can maintain political power? Is this real life?

Btw all this EU is on fire immigrant talk bullshit some people ITT are implying is literally because of a freak anomaly in 2015, which was the refugee crisis. Because you know, the US faciliated the destruction of their fucking country... They didn't ask for them to do that, they didn't want to have their homes and families destroyed so they can move to a place where they are surrounded by people who hate them. After that 1-2 years of refugee influx, migration rates are back to the the same annual averages as before...

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a huge chunk of the migrants weren't actually refugees but were from other countries just tagging along to exploit europe's welfare. the actual syrians were just as mad about it as the europeans, on the news there was one family on a packed boat and they were saying they were pretty much the only actual syrians on the boat

>>Sweden
>Okay, now I can disregard everything you say
I literally am Swedish you fucking Calfornian.

We have such a big problem with immigrant gangs that we now have regular shoot-outs in so collad "särkilt utsatta områden" (roughly "particularly challenged areas"), which was practically non-existant before the 2000's. Of course the municipalities of these areas recieve huge amount of fanacial support from the government.

Our healthcare system is completely and notoriously fucked due to several things, not least us taking in 100's of 1000's people of poor health who haven't payed into the system. This despite having some of the highest taxes in the world

We have and ever increasing spike in sexual crime and rapes which can entirely be explain by migration. If I'm not mistaken 1/3 of women are afraid of walking alone at night, the number is probably higher among migrant women.

Depending on the country which a migrant comes from it can take up to an average of a decade for them to get into the labor market. Granted, it doesn't take 8-10 years for all immigrants, but the situation is bad enough as for the government to subsidise the entire wages of migrants in certain sectors as to encourage firms to hire them. On top of this there has also been heavy pushes to deregulate the labour market as to encourage migrants to work, which the traditional left has been fighting hard against.

We don't have enough money to exand our severly weak police force, to feed our elderly retirees (We have among the highest number of poor elderly in Europe), we have a massive problem with so called "honor culture" among migrants (basically male migrants bring their misonyginst culture here), the school system is in chambles, etc. These are all thing talked about by maintream polticicians and all of these problems can be partially or entirely explained by immigrantion.

there should be 0 africans or arabs in europe period

if immigration is a straight economic benefit then it implies emigration is the opposite
like if i find a $20 bill on the ground then good for me, right? but what about the person who lost that $20? their loss is the sole reason for my gain. “immigration is good for the economy” is braindead zero sum level thinking.

don’t believe me? consider the fact that less developed countries are passing measures to lower emigration. poland recently made all 25 and unders exempt from most income tax in an effort to keep them in the country.

france24.com/en/20190705-poland-moves-exempt-young-workers-income-tax

so what we can conclude is that “immigration is good for the economy” are just people who think it is okay to leverage your stronger economy in order to steal from less developed countries. yet all the pro-immigration whackjobs aren’t straight up corporatists are members of the “woke left” yet they advocate stealing human capital from poorer countries. at least the actual rich capitalists do real world investments to build new things, the woke left just wants to steal from developing nations while calling it progress.

fantano is a political brainlet and so are you.

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>Do you know what this means? Do you know that illegals are not entitled to any of the government services
I never specified illegals.

that's cringe and bluepilled

why?

does that explain iq difference by race in the us divided by income brackets?

You fell for my bait

how fucked are we where our reason for taking in people from countries whose home weve distabilized is its good for propogating capitalism? capitalism is the reason our worlds so fucked to begin with...

IQ is largely explained by genetics. Of course, not entirely, nutrition, health and (to a lesser degree) education all play a part, but the bulk is purely biological.
High natural ability comes before eduation and infrastructure. Thus, Africa is shit because the average sub-saharan has an IQ in the 70's-80's, and not the other way around

I really wish America would stop telling other countries how to live their lives.

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So what's the economic incentive of flooding your country with low IQ individuals prone to tribal conflict? Sounds like a waste of time and money.

>Ezra

fuck off if capitalist incentive is your reason for anything. how about helping them because its moral and helping people who are suffering. also most of thse places are impoverished because of whitte imperialism aswell so...

Why not improve their countries instead of shitting up ours

why not help the struggling people in the country already who elected the government to do so

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this would not happen if only they would be here legally thats why south america has no problems with these kind of things

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>the wall is never going up
I like how the left has resorted to burying their head in the sand and outright ignoring news developments this past year. Many parts of the wall have been funded and are under construction. These are the same people who flat out pretend the Mueller report didn't happen and that Trump colluded with Russia.

>Africa is poor because of imperialism
This implies that Africa had any type of developed civilisation before colonialism (not true, by the way). But even if this was the case, why aren't previously colonized areas of easten Asia just as poor? Why hasn't Africa recovered yet?