/prod/ - Music Production

he looks like an alien

scanproaudio.info/2019/07/12/amd-ryzen-3600-3700x-3900x-dawbench-tested-3-is-it-the-magic-number/

really good dawbench numbers for the new ryzen chips, lads. very tempted to grab that 3900x now.

I knew about his channel already, I think he shills too much these days and I'm not a fan of those top 10 clickbait videos but I liked most of his older videos.
The face reveal was hilarious to me, he looks like a /fit/ meme, not exactly what you would expect from a gear nerd

Meme of the day

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15 posts and no wips posted so i guess i'll be the first

i made this a couple months ago and have been kinda sitting on it even though its fairly good. i made several attempts to improve the sound design but it always ends up worse than before so i keep going back to this point.

i feel like i need a good bridge or outro to really seal it away and call the arrangement done

just looking for a second opinion or some ideas i guess
clyp.it/pdlymsml

clyp.it/022l4iz4

any feedback?

>two chords on piano
entertaining

pretty well put together overall, although i grew tired of the 'hook' (the thing you first hear at 1:10ish) by the end of it. would like a bit more low-end 'air' to get pushed around by the kick drum and maybe a bit more space throughout the mix.

i was a little concerned you were going to run the eccho'd percs through out, so it was nice that you drop them out early. however, imo you miss an opportunity to have nice half-bar moments of breathing space exploring echoed hits. there's a lot going on and that fine but personally i'd like to hear a bit more of 'space' in general.

How do I get a mix like Drake???

youtube.com/watch?v=csd3AIPrxs8

hire 40

that man is sick sick sick

I MADE A FAN SENPAI
instaud.io/3WSp

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Now the next assignment is to make a good song (with or without this fan noise).

I do not like this challenge :(

OH BOY it's time to write in the style of...
JUSTICE... i guess

come on user you know that's impossible

WHOA hey fuck you buddy i write hella songs
i'll show you!!!!
... but not show /prod/ (:

Anyone here produced a song on a mobile device? I know the apps like FL, caustic and milkytracker but i cant produce anything decent on a phone.

can barely hear the kick from my phone you should work on that first

that's probably because there is no kick to hear. there's only like 5 kick hits in the first drop, i could make those more obvious i suppose.

residentadvisor.net/features/1748

This was a nice read

copy and paste here or give a tl;dr i'm not clicking on your shit

fuckin love it 10/10

nigga u know u just low pass everything except his vocals, have a really low reese as a bass line, then basically drums and nothing else. simple as

because you're trying to produce on a phone? what do you honestly expect

its a guide to drum programming nigger

>dude here's a basic bitch midi pattern for your drums
>now stack effects on top instead of using good sounds to begin with
multiplier has better guides unironically

This is officially the worst thing Imageline could have done

>presets are the main feature, with some paid expansions already available and more are being planned
>free for all editions
>FREE FOR ALL FUCKING EDITIONS
>"production-ready" sounds out of the box
>"babbys-first-synth" interface

It's like Nexus but worse because it comes free WITH EVERY FUCKING EDITION

FL has always been a cancer magnet, attracting talentless EDM kiddies and Hiphop """"producers""""" en masse. And now they've lowered the bar even further. Just wait a month and YouTube/SoundCloud will be filled with shitty EDM tracks using these presets.

Seething rn
This is the final straw, I'm switching to Ableton for good.

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damn you're gonna have to actually do something to stand out huh

post your work

You mean like Avicii? :^D

>tfw my music still sounds like shit

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Maybe you just don't have it in you user
You should quit and perish like a dog

fuck off fag I'll never quit kys

There you go, now you've got your spirit back
Say thank you

I had completely forgot about the "mix against a pink noise reference" trick
It makes everything sound good wtf

>imagine being such an earlet that you need pink noise to mix your tracks properly

>not mixing against white noise
lmao the lofi aesthetic is so lame

If you have to mix against a song, why choose that shitty Disclosure one?
Why not an actually well produced one like Grammy-award-winning Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites by Skrillex?

>why don't you just follow the crowd

This
Why not A/B against a track by the absolute production Chads THE CHAINSMOKERS, they're a lot more successful than shitty in els artists like Autism and Aphex Cuck after all

>not mixing against blue noise
I bet your tracks sound like ass on pone speakers.

Following the crowd is good if the crowd is goingin the right direction.
Why go the wrong way on a one-way street just to be different?
That's like saying "why should I want to be happy and have a good life like everybody else? I want to stand out! I want to be unhappy and have a shit life! Now that's cool!".

Pic related is the disgust I have for you and your family.

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mad that kids with talent and 0 experience will be making better music than you in ~2 years while you've spent 5 years sound designing one synth on fb3300 and been working on the same 'experimental' track for 3 years now?

vocaroo.com/i/s0B2TnEHcLfe
vocaroo.com/i/s0mps59TZO15
Looking for feedback on improving these. Technical / soundwise mostly. I'm not taking these too seriously but if anyone has any major feedback I'd appreciate it.

>vocaroo.com/i/s0B2TnEHcLfe
use clyp it, vocaroo is trash quality

What's you guys' take on the PO-12? Are there any better drum machines in the same price range?

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Fb3300, now that was a freeware vst

>implying I work in DAWs
Only for mastering you pleb

>HE DOESN'T MASTER ENTIRELY ANALOG
>HAS THE ABSOLUTE GALL TO CALL SOMEONE ELSE A PLEB

Absolutely based. I'm scared to switch DAWs after 9 years of FL but shit like this and other issues (open same plugins in FL and other daws, FL always has higher cpu load). Them closing this synth off entirely really irritated a lot of community it seems. If you have the producer edition you only have 1 usable synth in sytrus and nothing worth using in the stock fx. Yes parametric eq 2 sounds like shit. I'm too addicted to the workflow sadly. Even just chopping/arranging samples in the playlist feels more intuitive. Funny enough in this update they made FL usable as vst on Mac so I guess they subtly solved an issue for me. I'll have to try it out since I never rewired before.

Mmmm *sips ReBirth*

instaud.io/3X32

made this in a few minutes & it's better than 99% of what's usually posted here

Decent for a first dungeon synth sketch

wow you must be so proud of being better than a bunch of people who suck!!!!

>better than 99%
i'd say closer to 50% but yeah sure it's a nice start

Alright I'll do that next time sorry

Some of the chimes there sound a bit grating to me idk why. Sounds nice though, I hope it evolves into something more.

thx. tried to give a LoZ feel.
haha, people at least try. show me the latter 50% from these threads that's better than this. i know they're out there, just show me.
yeah agreed. it feels a bit muddled. i'll further develop this with soft vocals & lowkey drums.

for those curious, i used spitfire audio for this. it's free & the sounds are very realistic. it's usually for score / orchestral music, not for edm / trap (what mostly everyone here is trying to go for). i highly recommend it.

I made this in 10 minutes and it's 100x better than anything you could ever hope to post

clyp.it/w22xkjda

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

being arrogant is an based trait

instaud.io/3X3R
there we go this is how I destroyed my eardums today, I have no idea how fucked up it is since I was using the headphones

is it neuro funk?

I guess it is

Tfw half decent intonation
instaud.io/3X4m

instaud.io/3X4p

Would love some feedback on this. Arrangement / structure-related, sound-related, technical-related. Tell me what instruments you hate, which ones you like, tell me what sounds good what sounds like garbage, etc.. I think it sounds really good parts and I get a rush listening to it which makes me so happy but I also don't want to go back to it in a month and realize it's actually garbage. So any advice you have would really help. Thanks /prod/

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is it you whitey?

who's whitey? yes it's me

God this is still my favorite troll track of all time, I always listen to the drop and it makes me smile every time how hyped I get before the big let down.

>favorite troll track of all time
so not the secret weapon on linkin park???

just save some more money and get a volca beats

heres another one, i think the intonation is better but im not here to cherrypick recordings to make you think i'm better
instaud.io/3X4J

nope

what

>burial interests me

fuckin tired of this song already
SOMEBODY MAKE THE MUSIC FOR ME i only like making beats and noises :(
the secret sound is there

instaud.io/3X4O

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We don’t care if something is better or worse you dingus. We want to build a community. You’d be surprised who posts advice or has posted in the past.

i wish i could make good music and produce it

agreed. i just wanted to a rise from you guys & i got it

i think i have something like that but not that good instaud.io/3X52

fucking great, I was waiting for this benchmark
The 3900X is even beating Intel on their best territory, VI/Poly count

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>FL has always been a cancer magnet, attracting talentless EDM kiddies and Hiphop """"producers""""" en masse
Then why are you using it?

Ooh I wanna play!
This took me 15 minutes honestly but it uses no instruments and is chaotic enough to be irreplicable. I could leave this recording for 5 hours, chop it into blocks, and release an ambient EP.

some shit i worked on for the lat week or so, would REALLY appreciate any thoughts/feedback on the transitions , and the non-drop bits . shiieets hard

clyp.it/cqrp5yew

>we want to build a community

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Cut the Japanese anime talk at the end please

lel just a cheeky easter egg dawgie. how bout the part i made ??!

if you're in headphones, I'd use you're eyes more than ears desu. Just make sure you're master has 2-4 dbs of headroom and you're fine.

perfect pic for that 'we are equal' faggotry

Yeah because we used to have way more active posters and they didn’t stop making music, just stopped helping others here. I wonder why.

>master
>2-4 dbs headroom
>Are they less accurate or what?
They have shit frequency response and there isn't such thing as "studio headphones"

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attempted this
instaud.io/3X5r
I think it's not loud enough

>>master
-4 dbs headroom
What can I say, I'm a transients snob

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use distortion, on like most things a bit, specially hihats/snares
use eqs
like, mix
klip & limit
ok, but you can fuck up your transients with -14db "headroom"
it's a shitty metric to use, specially in mastering were RMS levels count

fair, I wasn't clear enough.

good distortion to use is still decapitator and kclipper is fucking awesome, if you are after 808ish sounding basses, try kazrog bass director too

forgot to add to use saturation
fabfilter saturn is go to for me, for both, more electronic/synthetic sound as well as orchestral samples
on a site note, if you want to make really deep rich, almost post-apocalyptic sounding drums, use orchestral libraries, pitch them down and run them through saturn

also fabfilter micro is nice for hihats, king combo with decapitator

Tfw in preproduction of my album and planned to do 6 tracks and it somehow went to 8 and now 12 since I had too much material

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don't go full retard and do double-cd tier shit

what you got against double albums?

meme tier
no one is going to want to listen to all this
90% is going to be skipped

Drop's sounding quite lush, nice work. Definitely add some more percussion to the buildup, if I were doing it I'd throw in some 808 rimshots, some high toms and stuff like that. Don't oversell it though, it's good as is but just needs a few extra touches to make it special.

I’m shortening a few of the songs to have more playtime for more interesting themes and a varied experience. Only 6 will be on the vinyl though though.

>no one is going to want to listen to all this
You've clearly never came across "Entire Discography" videos on youtube. I can't tell you the number of times I've listen to SOAD's full discography in one night from that.

discography ≠ double album

>Only 6
if you can, find a way to get 9, because 9 is 3x3 and 3 is a the holy number of holy things

same concept tho. If you like the artist you'll love to sit there and listen to it all, more or less. Sure it might not appeal to normies, but fuck them desu

9 is even better and true patrician number

I used the pink noise technique and there was a good 6db or so of headroom, so I went to the limiter and added gain to the point where it was touching 0db
It sounded like that, very weak and not loud enough

don't EDM trend hoppers just stack supersaws? can't imagine sound design getting any more basic than that

>It sounded like that, very weak and not loud enough
its because of the mix
a good mix isn't just done on the stereobus
like, knock yourself out
I want to see at least 5 plugins on each track

>instaud.io/3WSp
In terms of production, I'm pretty sure I'm the kouhai here. That's a great fan sound; I love how you can hear the blades. Would fit perfectly in a Silent Hill soundtrack.

Get reaper or pirate FL/ableton?

bitwig

Yes. Might as well have all options available to you.

i used all of them. now i'm working in reaper

Pirate everything

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Use Reason in demo mode and record and mix in Audacity.

>kouhai
God damn i gotta brush up before i can take my weeb certification test

thank you though, silent hill has been a big influence on my sound design efforts too :p

Thoughts on this guys?

clyp.it/ssm1akic

buy cubase

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I'd recommend condensing the first 16 bars into 8. Other than that I like it a lot, it's a pretty novel sound

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cubase is german/yamaha
should be gooks and krauts rubbing their hands

nice verb but too long

>cubase is german/yamaha
Irrelevant. Look at the name of the company that makes it.
Not just Stein.
Not just Berg.
It's literally called Steinberg.

I understand it means "stone mountain" or something in German, but still.

instaud.io/3X63

I made this with a drum loop and three presets in FL studio. Musically, it's arranged exactly the way I want, but it still sounds mediocre.
What do I need to do make it sound better?

>t. american retard

They work like negatives so Steinberg is actually as Aryan as it gets

Always go for the highest feasible prime number.

>not using Fibonacci numbers for every aspect of your production
Scrubs are never gonna make it

clyp.it/uuyfoskd?token=712d093f53b5af2db15913f87493fadb

>Acid Techno

What does everyone think of this? Any constructive criticism?

The vocals are read straight off of the first chapter of Snow Crash.

What are you guys thoughts on learning by watching tutorials?

Also currently sad because I can't get any sound in my head into the DAW.

Everyone's different.
Some people learn better by watching, some by reading, and some by simply doing (which you should be doing anyway even if you're of the first two types, since you're not going to consolidate what you learn into your long term memory if you only study it).
See what works best for you and go all in on it.

my only real complaint is the kick is a little too punchy. Like, punchy kick is good, but that just over powers the whole track and would probably sound fucked up on a big system. Massage it into the mix a little bit more and you'll be good.

tell me about producing future garage. is it that complicated?

>complicated
I guess it depends on what you're background is. If you come from a hard bangers electro type thing, then it might be difficult getting the soft sound and vibe right. But if you're from a more minimalist/atmosphere heavy background then you'll take to it like a fish to water.

>What are you guys thoughts on learning by watching tutorials?
its absolute shit except when you are an utter pleb who doesn't know how a compressor functions, then a tutorial vid might be a good idea
I much rather use actual project and tracks for reference and occasional good info is being screencapped into a pic I can also look into again

but i came from jazz...

where do you find actual project and tracks for reference

so you'll have an idea musically, but production is a whole other skill set

I only came across a few and made a few screencaps. Those were quite helpful in reading the thought pattern. Reference tracks are easy, import mp3 and reference. Isolate certain frequencies and try to hear what was done in term of processing. Hearing the reverb, what kind of delay etc.
This is much more informative than watching a video, specially these crappy marketing tutorial videos. The only videos I can recommend are livestreams.

also low/high passing & mid/siding through tracks gives you a good reference on what a proper stereo image is

this is all mix-centric of course, how to compose/produce/arrange/play is really a matter of talent and fanaticism

>mid/siding through tracks

what does that mean?

Can you or any other kind user advise me on switching to reaper from fl after many years?

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that's what i'm talking bout. are there any courses about all that electronic stuff?

mid/side signal
you can think of which information is mono/stereo and solo each

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Can you give me some specifics of what you're looking for (genre?)and I will try to link you.

Any producers up for a challenge?

ah danks

np, just google "mid/side processing", lots of articles coming up
I generally recommend reading over watching

i'm interested in synthwave, future garage dubstep and trap. it would be awesome if you helped me with a piece of advice

OK Boomer here looking to buy 1 of 2 local late 90s/early 2000s grooveboxes.

But anyway tale of the tape:
2003 rompler sound engine along with a sampler with 64 voice polyphony. Very big and bulky. Not portable. Broken velocity pad mini keyboard so it needs a midi controller to use basically. One city over. $350
vs
Less deep 1999 rompler sound engine, no ability to sample with 32 voice polyphony. Smaller & more portable which I like. Can probably fit in a backpack. In perfect working order. Quite a bit further away. $150.

Both have GS forum tier rock solid tight midi timing, 16 tracks, big screens, decent sequencers that have workflows that work for me, & a decent amount of effects

Which one should I go for?

My post keeps getting tagged for spam for some reason so I put it on pastebin (lol it told it triggered for spam there too)
pastebin.com/be3dR8ah

For synthwave I recommend Ste Ingham and Celio Para.

thank you good sir.
subscribin

Sick and fucking tired of the fucking trap beats its all so fucking boring

clyp.it/aw2sdhk4

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do something different

do something right now my nigga i dare you nigga, you got an hour.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lzq_baMWHeE

What about any emu command stations? imo they had the best sound engine

i want a challenge

>tfw feel anxious whenever I open Ableton

why? I want it to be fucking gone. I just want to have fun making music god damn it

Actually got to mess around with one recently but unfortunately I just didn't feel it. Sticking to the Roland & Yamaha models as you could probably tell by the descriptions.

If you are not watching some cryptic DAW stuff I don't really see the point

Using some sort of "standardized method" for your own tracks will not work.

In fact, I've noticed that with my own mixes, using some sort of "standardized method" that worked for last song does not work a new song I am working, you must treat it as its own entity etc.

Your ears are your best judge, especially when they get experience

what about for learning a genre

I don't know about EDM etc. but at least the youtube tutorials for metal mixing are fucking awful, stay away.

Most of the time those videos are just advertising stuff that well... their sponsors paid them to advertise... "YOU NEED THIS. YOU NEED THIS" Just fucking awful.

The only thing I don't do myself these days is the mastering process. I only focus on getting good sounding and thick mixes and leave the mastering to the professionals.

you can not mix your metal well because it has to be properly recorded

instaud.io/3X8u

fixed that for you user

I don't know how to do anything else.

I actually spent the last 50 minutes making a troll beat out of another user's post. Sigh.

can someone give me a challenge idc what it is

Who are you talking to?

learn to play flute

make song
read all of justicefags posts and try to care
rubber
synthesize snare kick hat etc
odd time signature
10 minute beat

if you don't know, watch a tut for inspiration if you really have no idea or feel overwhelmed.

I have two harmonicas.

A tutorial for what? There's basically only trap and EDM and I'm not interested in either. I tried vaporwave but realized vaporwave sucks. I was trying to do synthpop stuff for a little bit but my LoungeLizard crack wouldn't work. Fuck, I have like 30 unfinished FLPs.

show us your crack

>make song
>read all of justicefags posts and try to care
>rubber
>synthesize snare kick hat etc
>odd time signature
I consider none of these a challenge (or just dont care what they are)

>10 minute beat
This one I do think is a challenge but may take a while. Can try

I uninstalled it a while back, I don't remember which one it was.

instaud.io/3X8J

My first attempt at techno in 10 minutes kek, I'll gladly accept any tips/feedback to git gud at this and any other genre. Please I need it.

Should I watch tutorials or just reference other songs and figure shit on my own?

Bro haha this is actually pretty dope! Thx for 'fixing' my track. Give this to a Playboi Carti type rapper, post it on Soundcloud & it'll blow up. Use 'user' as a credit.

wow you're no fun

I remember when I started to produce I felt anxious and nervous. But also that I spent hours in the DAW learning things. Now I have no anxiety but no desire to produce kek

Memebeat is here.
instaud.io/3X8Q

user there needs to be a bassline before you can can call it techno. I'm feeling something long and pumpy on this, keep going, cool tone so far.

>wow you're no fun
not sure what you mean. I've already done odd time sig, i've already made a song, i've already done plenty of snynths, percussion. How are these challenges? They're just general things that artists do. A challenge is something like "make this sample sound not shit" or "use these notes, or this specific time sig"

in other words, be more specific

That's some phat distortion. Packs more pinch than the original. I think my track is gonna mutate here on out. Enjoying everything I hear so far.

*punch

You're welcome. It was meant to be shitty, I put too much effort into it.

This is a better troll version. Did you just distort the whole thing?

Someone should chop it into more conventional trap now
Cut initial file lows off at 80 then I used a few different types of saturation in chain with eq and comp in between then limter on the end.

#
I've listened to Die Lit so many times, Pi'erre Bourne style production automatically makes me flip out. Even tho you consider this low-effort & probably spent like 5-15 minutes on the beat going thru whatever you could to make it more hype by using Gross Beat & one of your drumkit, the result is something I fux with. Curious what you made with more effort.

#
That's the only logical conclusion to making my track listenable to the mainstream crowd. Trapify everything. It's the only way.

thanks brother

tried making something with only 10 minutes. I learned today that I am very fucking slow.

instaud.io/private/1181df4207dfc0a9f0a37efd490186a6be9f7c08

I advise everyone in this thread to keep their dayjobs

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You gon respect my NEETing give a fuck if you like it

Joke's on you I don't have one.

yeah ight

You might have heard it but here's my music. I don't know what kind of music to make that's inspired by JUST but isn't a total copy. Please respond.

instaud.io/3WO6

instaud.io/3WO6

Just compose away from the DAW

Is there a Loomis for music production.

Thank you appreciate the help

Yes it's called Loopis and you can use it to transport super secret WAV files of obscure old songs that haven't been sampled yet to and from any point in the United States of America.
To sign up you need at least a million followers on one of the main social media platforms and a recommendation from another member, but then it's easy and it only costs $152 per minute of audio and $1829 per vinyl or CD record.

how

pen and paper

You don't have a real instrument? lol

is this good enough for playing guitar with ampsim and electronic drumkit with ezdrummer

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Can someone find the BEHRINGER support contact, I need to get my interface fixed and I can't find it

i laughed internally user, i appreciate the effort

Yes.

my creativity is fatigued fuck bros
but thats alright
its part of the natural process just get some rest !!

blogpost #2
fucking with synths are fun and all but i think i need some organization to mix in w my super chaotic learning process
also gn

>BEHRINGER support

Literally the first result - fill out the form on the support page or the service page, or both if you're felling spammy, Sammy.

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as a beginning unkown producer, whats stopping more known producers from stealing my work and reposting it as their own? do i have to register my work in the u.s copyright office? what if im not from the u.s, does it protect my work everywhere on the web?

>as a beginning unkown producer, whats stopping more known producers from stealing my work and reposting it as their own?
The quality.

Copyright is automatically yours as soon as you create something.
Now, demonstrating copyright is a separate issue, but it should be pretty easy by posting it somewhere that doesn't allow to change the upload date (so you could prove you were the first one), or by putting it on a disc/flash drive/SD card, and mailing it in a package to yourself.
This way, as long as you don't open the package, you'll be able to prove that the stuff contained in it was made before the shipping date.
This last methos is only useful in court, and honestly it would be pretty stupid to actually file a lawsuit for this, so your best option is to do the first method and use it to shame the famous producer and let everybone know it was stolen from you so you get to punish them and gain clout.

But this will 99.9999% never happen to you because of the sheer number of aspiring producers you'll blend into, and the fact that if they're famous enough to matter, they're probably good enough to change it in a way that makes it sound different than the original, and you'll look like a fool for claiming that this celebrity producer stole his cool beat from the shitty one an unknown beginner made.

super noob question:

i want to get the aturia essentials for my first midi controller, but on my ableton 8 there is no option for it in the MIDI preferences drop down list, so i'm wondering if i can still use it with my old ableton or if i need something else

I don't know maybe there is a driver you need to install from the arturia page

Learn their techniques as best you can, but don’t try to compose like they do.
1. It’s a waste of time (you aren’t justice)
2. They’ve already done it, You won’t do it better

Some important things to learn from justice are obviously loudness/clarity and creative sampling practice. They distort things so perfectly and somehow make them work in a mix.

Idk I’m rambling but they key point is that you can’t just make music like them, but you can definitely imitate them for awhile to consciously steal/reverse engineer a lot of their production ideas.

Oh and if you’re looking for insight into that French house harmony listen to more SebAstien. (Though I think that harmony is a bit of a dead end)

i think maybe the drivers install when i first connect it up, meaning it would appear in the drop down list

Yeah I actually did use some Gross Beat and a Pi'erre Bourne 808.
>Curious what you made with more effort.
clyp.it/zsktr0ss
clyp.it/y2rus5su

>Learn their techniques as best you can, but don’t try to compose like they do.
Would you give this advice to everyone? Not Justicefag. Who do I compose like then?

>SebAstien
Sorry, meant SebastiAn.

do i need a 100 gigs of room tones?
i feel like i need a 100 gigs of room tones.

all you need is 100 gecs

The thing about JUST is that when they released, people called them louder Daft Punk. I still don't know how to get my own sound within the French house spectrum. I only like music with melody. I want the sampled sound because I feel like timeless EDM albums are products of sampling. But how to take Cross one step further idk. It's why both DP and JUST are regressing into more modern sampling and sounds. I have knowledge of music theory and harmonizing, so I can make harmonically complex music. I just don't know what kind of sound to go for. I need different instrumentation and different, preferably obscure, synthesizers I guess. But more importantly, I need to know what kind of album to make and I need a dress-up gimmick like DP, be it ayy lmaos or demons or...

dude I don't fucking care why are you replying to me

what is layering and resampling?

How do I make music like vladislav delay's?

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I guess what I need to do is find an obscure synth. Maybe even one that's considered crappy but has a unique tone and write an ayy lmao rock album like JUST's two latest albums but louder and more compressed with Cross production techniques and different sampling.

Relax

Resampling is recording audio or midi-audio to a different track. Layering is recording and compressing two different sounds together to fill out and enhance the frequency spectrum on a given sound.

Layering is putting two or more sounds together so they sound like one thing.
For example, to make a digital kick drum it's common to layer a sine wave that rapidly pitches down for the body of the kick, and then a "click" sound at the beginning for that initial attack.
When properly levelled and put through the correct effect chain, they'll sound like one sound that has the characteristics of both.

Resampling is basically exporting something to audio and working with the audio itself instead of whatever you had before (either some midi generator, or some audio file being processed by effects and whatnot).
For example, to make DnB bass sounds it's common to resample the sound many times, with different kinds of processing done to it each time.

>layering
Can refer to many things. Frequency, instrumentation, stereo image. It is basically how you fill things you have already outlined.

what kind of processing can you do with resampling that you can't do with the original audio

>Resampling is basically exporting something to audio and working with the audio itself instead of whatever you had before (either some midi generator, or some audio file being processed by effects and whatnot).
>Resampling is recording audio or midi-audio to a different track.
that's not resampeling, that's printing/bouncing.
Resampling is using a sample (either created or sampled) and run it through a sampler (like kontakt) and change it further.

forgot to add

First of all, any kind of resampling that your CPU couldn't handle on top of whatever you were running earlier.
Usually it's audio-manipulation stuff that works by messing with the audio file itself, like stretching, pitching, saving in different formats to get artifacts, etc.
Or you can import it into any kind of program that reads audio files, like samplers, granulators, audio editors, etc.

TL;DR: Anything that you can do with an audio file.

That's a very narrow definition of resampling.

That's literally what resampling is.

Think of French house as a production style rather than musical style. Key elements being that beautifully bouncy compression and micro sampling techniques (taking a single note).

What else could you accomplish with these tricks without relying on grandiose chords with descending bass lines?

>what kind of processing can you do with resampling that you can't do with the original audio
but you are processing the original audio, just through a sampler which will give you more processing options. Like layering a sound onto a keyboard. Changing the envelope. Basic sound manipulation beyond just applying effects.

^
Why if you built your harmony out of jazz chords/quartal or modal sounds?

Or instead of applying that bouncy compression to distorted bass, you applied it to 808s or more “sound design” oriented stuff like Arca or SOPHIE?

These aren’t fantastic ideas but the point is you shouldn’t be limiting yourself. You likely have a strong enough music background - what do you enjoy listening to on your free time?

These French house guys listened to Funk and Disco all day since their teens. Personally I like folk music - so I apply tons of production ideas from these French house guys towards my use of say Joni Mitchell samples or whatever.

It’s unlikely that you’ve been digging in crates for funky music since your teens right? What did you listen to?

The goal is to create the feeling that you loved in these French records but using YOUR specialties and background.

Honestly after seeing what OPN was able to do using New Age tropes as a starting point - I feel like anything is possible.

That's just one way to resample. Not the only one.

Last piece of advice - look into this free saturation plugin “ToTape5” by airwindows.

Your distortion doesn’t sounds very pleasant at the moment

>trying out studio one
>everything going well
>impressed.tga

and then i automated a volume fader to do a fade out.

what the actual fuck. first off, who decided to make their faders have psuedo-exponetial curve, so even if you draw linear automation it'll fade exponentially.

sure, i can compensate for that with curved automation.

but then who the fuck decided to literally just drop the volume to zero as the automation approaches zero. it just falls off a cliff.

the clip fades don't do this. the clip fades are linear. this is just the volume faders on the mixer.
what the fuck.

i guess i'm off to reaper then.

>somehow make them work in a mix
again with this, they are monkeys when it comes to mixing, someone else did the job for them

>not using superior digital performer

i wanted to try this out, but the mixing console view looks a bit meh. tiny channel strips that i hear you can't resize? is that true?

the in-line pitch editing stuff looks wild though.

i've been on ableton for ages Tbh i'm just looking for a better mixdown environment.

reaper seems like a pain to get set up properly, but it seems really flexible.

>tiny channel strips that i hear you can't resize?
you really don't need to
DP's only weakness is it's resolution/UI implementation tho, I give you that
>the in-line pitch editing stuff looks wild though
it's great but I don't use it much, for electronic stuff it's probably good
>better mixdown environment
I like to mix with DP. You can save console snapshots, channel snapshots and customize almost everything (how many inserts & sends you want to see, you can even personally edit xml's and make your own color scheme/theme) except resolution. Save different mixing templates and even save whole mix stages. The automation is generally very good, the track view looks a bit outdated but after a while it really doesn't matter and I find it better than all these big ass track UI's were you have to scroll for ages.
>reaper seems like a pain to get set up properly
I never even bothered with it. I want to compose/mix music and not learn how to code a fucking program to function.
Also DP is one of the least resource hungry DAW's i've come across, except for Reaper of course. Studio One for example is horrendous in idle CPU utilization. Totally useless if you want to go beyond 24 tracks and don't want to spend 1.500$ on an Intel HEDT.

For one, and commonly used, reverse reverb.

>DP's only weakness is it's resolution/UI implementation tho, I give you that
i just installed it on my portable machine and i think calling this scaling behaviour a 'weakness' is a bit of an understatement.

i've spent a couple of days looking at reaper and afaik most of what you've described seems to be available there as well. i'm not trying to knock DP, reaper just looks like it might be a better long-term time investment due to its flexibility. plus i like the idea of surfacing vst parameters in the mixer so i can just make my own channel strip.

coming from ableton almost everything else looks feature rich when it comes to mixing workflow, honestly.

afaik studio one got a major performance upgrade with 4.5. i only spent a couple of days with it, however, and never really got a chance to push it. i might have a look at it again in a year or two.

>calling this scaling behaviour a 'weakness' is a bit of an understatement
I got used to it.
>surfacing vst parameters in the mixer so i can just make my own channel strip
what do you mean exactly by this?

I'm trying to sample something that sounds pretty complex and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong. It sounds like shit and I feel lost.

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unless you do multimedia with video, use studio one instead of DP.. just saiyan

>what do you mean exactly by this?
you can make any vst parameter appear directly inside the mixer. it's a little thing, but seems like a nice QoL thing.

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DP works totally fine without video. However, its a killer with it.
That's cool. Does it work in sync with automation? Plugins with MAS support can do the same in DP btw.

>Does it work in sync with automation?
not really sure. as i said, i've only just started looking at reaper in my off hours so i'm far from an authority on it.
it does appear to show the parameter being automated, but no idea if i can override it.

i'm mostly just looking to set it up as a basic console-style channel strip for dialling in quick 3 band eq and light compression, which is why i like the idea of it.

you guys mentioned DP as being good for video intrigues me. care to mention some specific stuff it can do in that domain? i do get sfx work thrown my way every so often.

God that pic makes me crack up

But you need to sample musically. Post what your sample is

GIMME ANOTHER SOUND TO SYNTHESIZE LATER I'M UP FOR THE CHALLENEGE >:)

hey notjusticefaghere but what other airwindows shit would you recommend?

i'm especially interested in anything unique or an "extreme" version of a standard effect/mixtool he may have done

lil ugly mane

huge fan but idk what you mean
i did an ondoinganevildeedblues type of song last week :p

post, would love to hear

instaud.io/3Xj8

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>instaud.io/3Xj8
shit thats tight, background is a timestretched vocal sample right? drums are sick too where'd you get em?

thanks mane

it's some random ass cymatics vocal sample stretched to hell and chopped/repitched to created a semblance of melody lol

kick and hat I synthesized with massive, the snare iirc is probably that b-wheezy snare that fucking everybody uses

youtube.com/watch?v=w7nNF0FJ3-I

crazy sampling

nice, love it thanks

>youll never git this gud

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don't tell justicefag

>you guys mentioned DP as being good for video intrigues me
It's literally the industry standard for movie-score and music for media composers

might slit my wrists

That's not the kind of music I want to make, but I could do it.

please dont

lmao you can barely imitate justice shut the fuck up

oh scene. is it mostly because of the ability write musical notation directly on the timeline?
i'm don't really get involved in the composition side of things. just sound-design and post-production.

nigga you couldn't even make a viper type beat you pussy ass lying little white niggae

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haven't produced music in a long time. do these old tracks have any potential? I might finish them if it's worth it
clyp.it/kba0rg54
clyp.it/p3oalgys
clyp.it/es2x1e3a
clyp.it/jwknau5b

>clyp.it/jwknau5b
1&2 are the same? they're alright just drums sound like ass
3 yeah definitely just gotta mix and arrange
4 best of the bunch would love to hear a finished version, and to see what ya could do with it

...

yeah sorry, I messed up the link for the first track so I've deleted the post, check the link in the new post. also now that I've heard the second track again I think I might just delete everything except for the melody and do something different.
the fourth track is one of my only gems I've ever produced I think hah. the snippet is old and I've done alot on the track, but I can't post it right now as I need to set up my PC with all my plugins again

just in case be sure to shoot yourself afterwards, someone might turn your corpse into a kino album cover

I like oi and tttt, first one has a killer break but i'm not sure how you could develop it further, tttt needs more tail on the drums

leave justicefag alone please i like him

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>i like him
fucking why? He rants about basic ass concepts, slobbers over edm dick and whines about how he can't imagine a sound of his own while having no redeeming qualities whatsoever- the nicest thing i can say about him is that at least he's not a sammy tier asshole.

you are right, the drums definitely feel too short and thin. might have to layer them
as for the other track I also have absolutely zero idea how to develop it further, I remember being really stuck on it for weeks

why is pitch modulation so fucking retarded in serum

i hate this fucking synth sometimes

Having a good taste is essential to producing good music and good taste cannot be taught or learned

do i need to buy korg monologue or novation bass station?

retarded question

this
it's genetic

but why?

pirate it

There is nothing on the pastebin.

it'll become pirate station

excuse me i became dumb

which of these i choose

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probably service request since you said you need to get it fixed but it might not even be worth it

ofc it's worth it i fucking lost channel 2

you got it

>he'a not a smamy tier asshole

he's one the least mean active people on this gen. Yes he might annoying to some, but he's a nice guy. I hope he succeeds.

thanks

he's not a "nice guy"
he responds to criticism poorly (understandably) and i'm not saying he's an asshole or anything but he's actively encouraging or spreading positivity or some shit lol

his personality is neutral-defensive with obnoxious posting. Not the worst user we've ever had but a net negative for the general

when are we making music you lazy fucker

he's not* actively encouraging

>Saving all the drums you made
>a once cluttered project is cleared and exported and ready to start making more

it feels good bros

yea you might be right
especially when he leaves potential collaborators like hanging

>he's not actively encouraging or spreading positivity or some shit lol
Thank God for that.
Can you imagine how much worse it would be?

i mean if it was genuine and not some faggy bullshit to further himself in some way then I would welcome that

this general could do with more positive anons instead of people whining about the state of music or whatever bullshit they want to be upset about

drive.google.com/file/d/1YTd_6RsLmyw1NndNbhdmxS6347dA349D/view

Objekt's production guide

new

imo the most useful thing is to watch other people produce to get an idea of what decent workflow looks like. I watched a couple of mr. bill's livestreams and although the music I write isn't anything like his, it was helpful in getting past the early stages of just looping the same 4 or 8 bars over and over. Hell if you're able record one of your own sessions and watch it the next day, you'd be amazed how much time you spend fucking around not getting anything accomplished.
If you know absolutely nothing then check out some tutorials on what you need to know, but you'd be better off reading the dance music manual or something