music stopped progressing and has been in arrested development since like 2015. in the early 2010s things were excited because hip hop was starting to influence other genres. now that influence has gone stale. with very few exceptions, there has been basically no ground breaking music for a few years now.
Music stopped progressing and has been in arrested development since like 2015...
furthermore, hip hop reached its logical conclusion with death grips, now that is stale too, where is the groundbreaking hip hop?
Even outside of hip-hop, it feels like every genre is just a retread of what it did in the past. As a huge rock fan, I can basically choose between the 60s imitators, the 70s imitators, the 80s imitators, etc. There’s no rock music post-2015 that feels fresh and new
There needs a new current in music to create something exciting, but I don’t know what that is
>2010 hip hop started to influence other genres
This is like a "1910 music was invented" meme right?
>hip hop was starting to influence other genres.
that's been going on since the early 1980s
you're daft
>where is the groundbreaking hip hop?
never has such a thing existed
anybody who considers hip hop anything more than mindless entertainment should be executed
everyones waiting for the next big thing.
>anybody who considers hip hop anything more than mindless entertainment should be executed
a better reply would be anyone who thinks that hip hop is some new genre that just came about in the 2000s
hip hop has been around since the mid-70s
rock music has literally 20 years on hip hop in terms of its inception
>everyones waiting for the next big thing.
or trying to self-consciously create one
hence all the WAVE genres that have emerged since the late 2000s
irrelevant considering the amount of terrible and pointless genres that have come and gone in the meantime
yet hip hop is being forced into everybody's face for god knows what reason
are we just getting old or what?
ur right desu
what? do you think hip hop has not been constantly evolving since its inception?
truth
there's literally nothing new or rebellious about hip hop
rhyming over a repetitive sample has been going on for 40 years
i think its being forced because the music industry/pop culture has run out of ideas and hip hop is just grasping at straws at this point
>ur right desu
techno, disco (the larry levon stuff), literally all electronic music made in the 80s has been influenced by hip hop
i mean by the use of sampling and repetition
dance music would sound completely different today if not for hip hop's groundwork in the sampling department
Music has stalled since about 2000. Late 90’s everything was positive, vibrant, hopeful, and music was innovative.
9/11 happened, and it ground to a halt. I’m not saying 9/11 had anything to do with it, but it seems to be a good cut off.
Since then, no new musical innovations, just rehash and emulation.
Nothing new at all, just variations on a theme.
My opinion is all, based on observation.
>just rehash and emulation
basically just described the entire 2000s along with the early 2010s
however i do feel that there is still places music can go its just that no one is brave enough to venture off from emulating the past
it feels worse than that user. this thread existing makes me feel despair. I hardly see any truely noteworthy artists anymore, just more of the same. what a strange world
Hypnagogia seems to be on the rise at a fast pace in the underground.
I’m 20
I believe that music streaming has also had a lot to do with the decline of quality. Getting streams is the only thing that matters as of right now. Hence why we see so many remixes, so many trendhoppers, so many emulators, and so many "nostalgia grabs" like the Jonas bros comeback. It's a money game.
watch out for my guy travis scott if he is focused and really wants to be one of the legends he will be just that........
op here, trap needs to die already
trap needs to keep merging with rock and become and ascended genre
Absolutely have to disagree OP, music generally has never been so great as right now, I'm not simply speaking in terms of scale, either. Sites like Rym or whatever are relics of the age of forced consensus.
true
I don't know, that new blarf album was pretty good though
>music has never been so great as right now
What are you on and where do I get some?
you are obviously listening to pop music only
Or it could be you're an old fag who just don't get what the kids like.
online streaming and platforms such as soundcloud have changed the music industry. bands find it harder to make new music. this has resulted in homogenous mass-produced trap-influenced pop, something i never would have foresaw at the beginning of the decade. within 10 years music videos will be literal pornography.
>within 10 years music videos will be literal pornography.
rammstein already did it
>within 10 years music videos will be literal pornography.
>within 10 years
>10 years
>years
have you been on pornhub recently?
It's already happening, just with metal.
Music videos haven't been getting any more sexual for decades now, retard.
You're already there, man. The cool thing about now is that you have all that old shit at your fingertips to be ignored as the ad jingles they always were. If music is going to progress you have to do it.
Ayyo, these kids out here merging genres and shit. Oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
We’re talking innovation here.
Of course, there are some great bands around at the moment, and always will be. And people will always fuse genres to experiment.
But what ‘new’ genre has appeared in the last 20 years?
And think about the bands of the same period... great they might be, but how have they changed music, sparking scores of copyists?
Innovation is the key, and there’s nowhere left to go.
Lol.
Ok Mr Contrary.
Whatever gets you through your day
Its a great time to find and discover all music that has ever existed but a garbage time for new releases. I think you misunderstood OPs post. Electronic music should of been the future but it took a dance music detour and has completely evolutionarily deadended itself.
this
its cause n*ggers like it so (((they))) force it upon us
Electronic music is not a genre.
I'm not interested in novelty, I'm interested in good music. And I have no shortage of that.
The underground rock scene right now is pretty innovative and changes frequently
What.
The japs are at it
youtube.com
this thread is so full of retards and underages it hurts to read
Baby voice carti
every piece of culture turned to shit post 9/11 not just music
>But what ‘new’ genre has appeared in the last 20 years?
Deconstructed club
Gqom
Theres not really a name for it but that soundscapey shit that subtext keeps putting out
It's standard rosy cheeked optimist to spite your fellow jaded pundits critical stance
people have had this exact same discussion since the dawn of fucking time. "is music dead?"
of course not. music will continue being innovated forever. human creativity is endless. just because you cant understand what new innovative music will sound like, doesnt mean it can never exist.
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>hip hop reached its logical conclusion
what the fuck are you saying? can you see the future? just because death grips is le wacky doesnt mean its the whole genres logical conclusion, also seeing as death grips isnt purely hip hop. this "fact" has no solid basis or rationale, and seeing as everyone else just went along with it without asking why you said this confirms that everyone here has a small brain and thinks they are musical geniuses.
>Deconstructed club
Why not just call it tranny industrial
1900s: nothing
1910s: music started
1920s: classical music
1930s: classical music
1940s: classical music
1950s: classical music
1960s: golden age of music for old singers
1970s: golden age of music for old singers
1980s: perfect age for rock rebels
1990s: improved good music and also the year for goths and punks
2000s: music is still good and gangsta songs started to appear
2001-2006: music is changing
2007: ghetto music but good and relaxing like akon dont matter
2008: some crappy music is starting to appear
2009: crappy music is spreading
2010: you gotta be kidding me this isn't music justin bieber
2011: R.I.P music goodbye...
Cause it has very little to do with industrial
>music stopped progressing
This is impossible. Art cannot simply stop progressing in a progressive society.
2011 - music was gay
2012 - music got edgy
2013 - music was gay and edgy
2014 - music got weird
2015 - music peaked (gay/edgy/weird)
2016 - music rode the high
2017 - music died (RIP Lil Peep)
2018 - music cried and came out as trans
2019 - music just started HRT and is trying to recover emotional stability before it's good again