Is metal the anime of music?

Pls don't insult Metal like that. I have my reservations for it but I definitely don't think its that low

Come on man, anime is our roots, we have to stand up for it unconditionally and shit or get called reddit.

Defending anime is the new reddit, man. Get with the times

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Fuck off zoomer

Hentai where little boys dress up as girls

Anime has more variety to it than American television, yet never do I hear anyone complain about American television all being the same.

>there are people using the Internet who don't know Boku no Pico

Metal fans and retarded weebs may be similar in both being over obsessed, insecure youngfags but anime has far more variety and creativity than metal ever will.

>American television all being the same.
t. watches Primetime television only

I never said it's all the same.

anime "variety" is just gimmicky trash

That's pretty fucking accurate

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>Future Boy Conan, Genma Taisen, Cutey Honey, Heavy Metal l Gaim, Escaflowne, Akazukin Chacha, Lupin the Third, Ad Police, Romeo and the Black Brothers, Yuyushiki, Kabocha Wine, Lemnear, Vampire hunter D, Arion, Attacker You, Dream Hunter Rem, Fist of the North Star, Battle Royale Highschool, Shoujo Nozaki Kun, Lensman, Area 88, Kinos Journey, Cells at Work.
>anime variety is gimmicky trash

>there are metalheads from all races and cultures
>there are weebs from all races and cultures
Maybe it's true.

>posts a list of animes that perfectly represent using tired gimmicks to appear different and unique while actually being the same boring trash anime as all the others

That's just flat out wrong

Anime has a huge number of different genres, topics and ideas. Just to look at some current ones:

>Dr. Stone
All humans in the world are suddenly turned to stone. Thousands of years elapse. A science genius is the first to break free from the stone, and begins to rebuild human civilization and technology from scratch.

>Astra Lost in Space
A group of students are on a field trip on a nearby planet when they are swallowed by a ball of light and ejected into space near an abandoned space ship, thousands of light years from home.

>Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru
An edutainment comedy show about weight lifting and other excercise.

>Cop Craft
A homage to 80s and 90s American buddy cop movies, where earth is connected to another dimension and and eath cop has to pair up with someone from the other side.

>Carole & Tuesday
Two independent musicians living on a terraformed Mars in a future where most music is produced by AI.

>Vinland Saga
Historical fiction about viking set in the 11th century. Based on real people and events.

>Maidens of the Savage Season
A coming of age drama about a group of high school girls.

These are clearly distinct shows, not just gimmicky variations on the same thing.

Fucking die boomer

lol ok weeb

Explain how all of those are the same.

It is not. People simply have no comprehension of how much anime there truly is.

I'm not a weeb and you can't prove that I am. You just said that because you have no arguments.

You have no comprehension to pit a whole medium against anime alone.

How would you know how varied anime is or isn't when you've never seen anything except a few of the super popular anime that are mostly similar to each other because the West only wants to watch a certain type of anime?

stfu, both is based.

>whole medium
>but the threads only about metal
Lacking logic as much as you lack comprehension i see.

I never said they weren't varied or made any judgments about its variety. Stop making stuff up user.

Then what are you talking about?

I wasn't talking about Metal, user. Please read the entire thread again with pic related in mind

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Saying anime alone is more varied than the whole of American television. That's incomparable. Maybe Japanese television can be, certainly but definitely not anime alone.

maybe, normies don't get immersed in the music (or anything) so complex instrumentals gets confusing. At the most you'll hear them comment about the drums, the rest is "just noise" because they didn't pay attention and follow the story.

If good pop music is Lord of the Rings then metal is Conan the Barbarian

>american tv industry is a whole medium
Holy shit you corrected me but it literally made you look even more retarded.

>Maybe Japanese television can be, certainly but definitely not anime alone.
Japanese live action television isn't, but anime is. You just don't understand how much different anime there actually is.

>not anime alone
>he doesnt know that anime had literal hundreds of epic sci fi and fantasy series since the 70s that American tv could only recently produce in such large numbers due to the advent of cgi technology.

For every Firefly, there must be at least 40 fully realised anime sci fi series made.

>He doesn't know what a medium is
Just stop please

Stop trying to compare apples and oranges user. That's retarded. You do know anime isn't constrained by television alone right?

>He think quantity is quality

tv is a medium but not american tv fucking kek. How do you mix up things this badly?

>You do know anime isn't constrained by television alone right?
You do know we're specifically talking about television, right?

>he thinks this is about quality when in fact this is about variety

>implying western sci fi serials were all quality either
>not realising the sheer amount of sci fi anime made means there are inevitably a ton of great shows

Not to mention variety is a quality in of itself.

>Thinking that just cause there were huge numbers of them, they were all different or unique.
>Thinking that nobody else is capable of that
Aight, sure buddy . . .

I HAVE THE POWER OF SATAN AND METAL ON MY SIDE
YOU CANT KILL THE METAL XDDDD

Variety requires numbers.

>Thinking that nobody else is capable of that
This isn't about theoretical capabilities, this is about what has actually been done.

yes

Its about the endless possibilities of animation when it has been applied to not just a childrens audience but to a generalised age range from teens to adults. Yes only anime has done that.
Also, huge amount of sci fi and fantasy; two genres with the most open ended story telling possibilities. Just think about it. Perfect recipe for variety.

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That's a logical leap user/s. Just cause there's a bigger number doesn't mean they're all unique let alone good.

lol ok weeb

They aren't all unique, but the more of them there are the more likely it is that unique works are going to be produced. There are also entire genres that either don't exist in American television or only kinda sorta do.

metalheads are the weebs of music

Vice-versa can be said for anime.

I'm not a weeb and you can't prove that I am. You just said that because you have no arguments.

There are the genres I can think of that don't exist in America or only kinda sorta do: slice of life, music, idol, cooking, sports, harem (and reverse harem), ecchi, isekai (and reverse isekai), magical girl, mecha, BL, yuri. I don't think even romance really exists. What's the vice-versa list?

Also, it's not just about genres, but also specific ideas.

yes, anime is for children

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Most anime isn't.

I love how youre desperately trying to downplay the implications of large amounts of sci fi and fantasy shows (meaning huge amounts of post apoc, alien invasion, time travel, alt history, swords and sorcery, supernatural, cyberpunk, msf, space opera, pulp sci fi shows etc). You do realise western tv barely having any such shows in comparison means they have far far less chance of having variety?

Metal is great
anime sucks

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Alot may be geared towards young japanese teens but would be rated 17+ by our western standards regardless.

Metal blows
Anime girls succ

Seems accurate.

Then metal also sucks. Everything sucks.

Some of my friends probably could have said this when I was a teenager

Only isekai, mecha (debatable), BL and yuri are unique user.

I don't think there has been a children's anime so far that hasn't been censored in the US. Even a show for elementary school girls had to be censored because it was too scary.

To his credit, narutards or madoka fangirls would say equally cringy shit

So all the other genres I mentioned are established genres in American television? Really?

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>>there are people using the Internet who don't know Boku no Pico
Sadly fb, ig and most twitter users use the internet and im sure 99.999999 percent of them don't know what it is.

...

All those things you mentioned can be are were tackled in one television show alone with good writers. But yeah, talk about how all the shows are all signs of quality and variety

This

Again with your jumping to conclusions user. Please read what I wrote again. And come to another conclusion

You said only isekai, mecha, BL and yuri are unique to anime, which implies the rest are not.

Now does that mean I said they're established genres? What do you think unique mean?

Unique types of western tv shows:
-reality tv
I think that says it all really.

>pedobait "cute" child-but-not-actually-a-child does x thing that only shut-ins and virgins do irl
yeah whole ton of variety buddy. my favorite is the one where little girls play with guns, or maybe the one where little girls play basketball. nah actually it has to be the one where little girls play guitars, yeah for sure that one

Congrats you just described most of the slice of life anime genre, which is merely one (albeit massive) portion of all anime as a whole.

If you can find, say, one or two cooking shows, it does not mean that American television has parity with anime, where those shows are so numerous that they make up an established genre.

>pedobait "cute" child-but-not-actually-a-child does x thing that only shut-ins and virgins do irl
This doesn't exist.

>yeah whole ton of variety buddy..
There is, and I have explained why.

>my favorite is the one where little girls play with guns, or maybe the one where little girls play basketball. nah actually it has to be the one where little girls play guitars, yeah for sure that one
So in your imagination, two shows exactly the same just because the main characters are school girls?

He didn't describe SoL, he described shows where the main characters are school girls.

t. pedophile neckbeards
don't you have an Yea Forums thread to post about how cute your favorite loli is lol

>one or two cooking shows
Now I think you've got the opposite problem about not watching enough American shows to make a comparison

There are some great anime out there, but 99% of the shit Yea Forums discusses is unredeemable hot garbage.

No need to defend all the trashy highschool setting slice of life out there. Thats an uphill battle. Its literally only one portion of anime and mecha shows, shoujos (if including magical girls) and fighting shounen are all equally massive in terms of quantity of shows and popularity. Pretty hilarious to see ignorants fail to realise just how huge and varied anime is.

No I prefer sci fi anime such as space adventure cobra; which is exactly why I pointed out you literally described literally 1 type of anime out of the scores of different types of anime out there.

You are a pedophile and you are projecting.

I have never seen or heard of an American cooking/food/drink show, and I have watched American shows since the 90s and regularly read other people's discussions on it.

>No need to defend all the trashy highschool setting slice of life out there.
youtube.com/watch?v=9Z4hyx6NYTw

Oh no how trashy.

Relax, I didnt mean every highschool sol was bad. I liked Asobi Asobase myself. Thanks for giving me a new anime to watch.

Not that user but are there really any drama driven cooking shows and not just
>le fake as fuck cooking reality tv show

sure thing pedos

Imagine being an adult male weeb, and then wondering why you're a kissless friendless virgin LMAO

Anime like Seikon no Qwaser are "trashy," and by design. SoL is the opposite of those shows.

You are a pedophile and you are projecting.

Imagine being a leftist and running away or dropping your spaghetti every time you're asked to explain why it's so important for people to have sex.

>YOU'RE the pedophile for exposing my pedophilia!

You're the pedophile for projecting your pedophilia onto others. You cannot quote a single post from me where I said or implied anything suggesting that I'm a pedophile, which makes you the pedophile.

fuck that's actusllu a good way of putting it

>ecchi
user, please lets not bring this shit up.

Hey look the non anime anons realised they couldnt win this argument and resorted to childish name calling.

>watches cartoons made for children
>calls others childish

Cooking shows itself are very present, user. Pure drama cooking shows are rarer because its usually combined with other jobs in a workplace show. But cooking shows are way too fucking many whether they be challenges or just educational stuff or documentary whatever.

>le
redditors should leave or neck themselves

>fake as fuck
Compared to the real food being cooked in your little anime?

Why the fuck are there so many normalfags in this thread

nu-metal is the shounen of music

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Yeah because anime totally is illegal and people who watch it get arrested. Oh wait but that isnt the case at all.

Not going to shit on educational shows (and anime has plenty of educational shows too) but looks like the dramatized anime kind of cooking show is quite unique then.

>user, please lets not bring this shit up.
Why shouldn't we?

Anime isn't cartoons and most of them aren't made for children.

Non-fiction shows don't count.

youtube.com/watch?v=p-hd9tDYOw0

Well the anime kind of cooking show doesnt try to pass itself off as 'reality' kek.

Le ebic reddit insult so amaze :DDDDDD

Because they are ignorant about anime

Haha this is true.

>why shouldnt we
That shit is in very poor taste and not representative of what anime usually gets watched. Also cute OP user.

Yeah that comparison is kind of what this thread is about. It's eerily accurate now that I think of it

only metalheads get as mad as weebs do when someone shits on their dumb hobbies, so yes

I made a list of anime-only genres, and ecchi is one of them.

When you "shit on" anime you are just saying things that are factually inaccurate, retarded and deranged.

I play in a metal band with heavy anime influences and can say that op is 100% correct

ecchi isn't anime only there are 3d japanese ecchi shows

>why is Yea Forums so memey towards metal
>check /metal/
>its all black/death metal and obscure ass gutural shit most of the time

yeah I kinda get it now
on a side note I was listening to dragonland-astronomy and that sounded anime as fuck
COOOONTACT WITH ALIEEEN LIFEEE
HEAAAAVENLY BUT NON DIVINEEEE

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hook, line and sinker

Japan only then. Not a big difference.

What are you talking about?

Both things also have their share of more mature and well versed fans that get a bad rap by association with the younger cringier fans.
What are more 'mature' metal genres? Avant black metal, maths metal, traditional metal etc. all seem to retain older metalheads who have experienced this genre of music for quite some time.

Where do I even start with anime; once you start looking outside of fighting shounens, slice of life and the most popular seasonals, most anime will have plenty for more mature fans to enjoy.

SoL anime is aimed at adults. Many of them are adaptations of seinen manga.

>Anime often has extremely badass, brutal fucking metal moments
Tfw it rarely has any actual metal music. Power metal at best such as for the newer Saint seiyas.

I guess youre right, westerners would just leave that shit to the porn industry. Its not really something to flaunt as a positive though. Keep your enjoyment of ecchi focused shows to yourself.

Again, I was listing anime-only genres. Ecchi is one of them. What is it that you are not understanding here?

You are not understanding that you are defending all the aspects of anime that igorant outsiders have the most negative preconceptions of. You will only give these faggots more ammunition to shit on anime when anime has many other different and amazing shows to offer.
And yes sol is heavily associated with cringy teens and young adults who create much of the negative sterotypes of anime watchers. Being based on a seinen or the sol exceptions that are actually brilliant wont change this.

I listed anime-only genres. Ecchi is one of them. What are you failing to understand about this?

>And yes sol is heavily associated with cringy teens and young adults who create much of the negative sterotypes of anime watchers.
SoL is a meme genre in the West. Extremely few people even know what it is even though they complain about it 24/7.

>is metal the anime of music?
Metal is the shounen anime/Tokyo Ghoul/Attack on Titan of music.
Primarily for little boys and grown-ass men who never felt secure in their own masculinity.

Holy shit why are you so defensive over slice of life haha. We get it, its not all bad and you enjoy some ecchi; but the vast majority of sol watchers arent connoisseurs of this genre like you are, theyre cringey faggots that create much of the bad sterotypes about anime.

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they won't save you now, weeb.
here, let's call them together
REDDIT oh please REDDIT come help!!!!

>Holy shit why are you so defensive over slice of life haha.
Why do you believe you have a right to attack things but nobody has a right to defend them?

>We get it, its not all bad and you enjoy some ecchi; but the vast majority of sol watchers arent connoisseurs of this genre like you are, theyre cringey faggots that create much of the bad sterotypes about anime.
Ecchi and SoL are not the same thing, and it's not anime's fault or responsibility what some cringy Westerners decide to do.

The West is pedophilic and sex-obsessed and projects these things onto anime.

Haven't you got a bull to prep, Christgau?

Because we've already btfoed the ignorant anime bashers using a huge variety of anime outside of sol as examples ; you really dont need to give them ammunition or acknowldege poorly made memes so that they can reignite a dumb argument against anime.

Id be happy to respect your views on SoL but not whilst we are in a Yea Forums thread full of retards and shitposters who dont know jack shit about anime.

Their "ammunition" blows up in their faces every time because they're retards, and you're the one making things worse by acting like SoL is some absolutely scandalous, indefensible thing that has to be swept under the rug. Because you don't know what SoL is.

>poop stinks, very stinks, poop stinks for the whole time
>poop poop poop not smelling nice, not smelling nice, smelling bad

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Why go through all that extra effort to re-explain why not all sol is sterotypical bullshit when they are already beaten by us explaining that there are awesome cooking, racing, sports, sci fi, historical fantasy etc anime out there?

Why should erroneous claims about SoL anime be accepted?

Taake

Inquisition

youtube.com/watch?v=0T6go6EOuG4

>defending cartoons
OHNONONO

Can you show me a post where I did that?

>huge

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>enters metal show
>old boomers, bikers and freaks
>enters some hipster show
>its a bunch of zoomies and millineal twinks

Why do you weebs pretend like anyone who dislikes anime is a 'normalfag?' Normies love anime, like they love pizza and wine.

I like anime, pizza, wine, and metal.

Normies love a couple of anime and despise the rest, despite not knowing anything about the rest.

major cringe

You have to be older than 18 to post here

it's the opposite, actually

fuck off metalbaby

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Shouldn't weebs get banned for this offtopic garbage posting? Mods probably drinking their shitty life away instead of doing something for once. Y'all have a fucking board to run!!

'xactly

I have absolutely no idea what point this is trying to make

Anime website, Japanese admin. Namefags like you need to neck themselves instead.

Is Prog the Hentai of music?

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>old people like old people shit
>young people like young people shit
Wow user you're right we really are living in a society

To be honest, I was going to meme against OP, but my favourite genre is metal, and my three favourite game series are Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil. I mean I don't watch anime, but still. Close enough I guess.

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That would be Trap Metal and EMO (YES EMO YOU FUCKING FAGS KYS)