/prod/ - Music Production

>discord
gas yourself retard

justicefag is based

never

I don't know if I should post it here or make a new thread, but I don't want to shit up the board so I'll try here first, maybe someone will know.

I recently got pic related, and the recordings it makes are pretty fucked. The passthru sounds just like I want it to, but the actual recording is a bass heavy muddled mess of nothing, no matter what levels I'm taping on. It's not that obvious with just simple stuff like bass or symple synth line, but if I want to transfer some of my noise tracks, it just won't record anything decent. Tape to digital recorder thru stereo out also sounds bad.

Does anyone have an idea what could it be?
Is it because I use ferric instead of chrome?
Do I need some DAW when transferring from/to digital?
Is the head fucked or just dirty?

The model doesn't seem to be bad, so it's not like all of them were shit from the factory.

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jfc i can't finish anything. if i could just make 4 bar loops for adult swim bumps i'd be golden, but making a full track? forget it

i mean it could be any number of things, i'd take it apart and make sure there are no caps that are blown and stuff like that, and just overall give it a good clean, just use some alcohol on the head.

if after a good clean it's still not working properly, then you know something really is fucked on it (or its your chain and you just don't know)

can you record the "bass heavy muddled mess of nothing"? id like to hear it

you got meme'd

are there penis inspections or something

Yeah, I'll try to clean it, o never tried to open up one though so I hope I won't fuck it.
I dont have an access to a PC right now so I can't let you hear it, but imagine just a generic noise track with bass turned all the way up in the EQ and that drowns out the high end and maybe a reverb thrown in.
The playback of already recorded tapes sounds fine, though...

little sister has an electric piano or whatever the fuck its called, and it has a midi connection
im a complete newb, but if a i get a midi to usd cable, is it possible to connect it to pc and record with it?

ya

way too busy. take some elements out or cycle them to give the track some room to breath

it SHOULD, but aren't those cables fucking expensive? might be cheaper getting a midi interface off of ebay for dirt cheap

cool, and if i play it, will the sound be only in the pc or from the piano as well? or is there a special option to mute whatever? dont wanna wake the neighbors makin music in the middle of the night

Added some stuff. Not getting any further into the song though time-wise. The chords were making the drums sinking the mixmso I increased their volume. I'm not sure how well I mixed the synth chords.

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meh, i think you might be out of luck, unless you have electrical test equipment, or know anyone who does? personally i'd just cut your losses cause those things are a meme, at least the passthrough sounds alright so it's not all bad

How old is it? I feel like a lot of the electric pianos from the past 10+ years should have USB output as well.
They can't be much more than a midi cable + midi to usb interface since the midi to usb cable is basically those two things built into one (the cables have a chip built into it and that's the bulge that you see).
Both. Turn the volume of the piano itself to 0, baka.

it should still give out midi information with the piano muted, but read the manual, it'll be in there.

yeah but there are so many more midi interfaces that people are trying to flog for cheap, i thought you might be able to get a really good deal

>cables fucking expensive
i really dont understand anything about this, but it seems they range from a couple bucks to a few dozens.. is there a big difference?
its pretty old, cant check what model it is but an old yamaha, id say at least 8 years
and yeah i guess setting it to 0 shouldnt wake anyone up lmao
logical as the above poster stated as well

really, thanks

heres another one vocaroo.com/i/s1biuF46CGLd

im banned, can you unban me

>is there a big difference?

nah other than build quality, midi is midi, nothing more nothing less.

no

pls, i wont shit it up

youtube.com/watch?v=E7YRzxXcGCE

pretty good vid on mastering if anyone cares

thanks to you and the other fellas in the thread
have a great day gentlemen

>instaud.io/3WB6
I love listening to this clip improve; these changes feel like a big step up from what it was. Nice work.
That one kick sample around 11 seconds in has bothered me every time and it's still there -- doesn't it bother you too? That abrupt cut off is way more noticeable than the other sample cuts.

is this good enough to start doing bars?
vocaroo.com/i/s0NCDDpOhteR
vocaroo.com/i/s1rQJTroqesr
vocaroo.com/i/s0vs3xBc5q7u

the voice is shaky on this one

ignore this poster

no as in i can't unban you

I mean yeah they're a meme, but I can't really use a PC basically most of the year, so I need some kind of analog solution. I tried recording into a digital Tascam recorder, but the noise floor is just so crappy that it clipped away half of my frequencies, which is... Important with noise music.

I guess worst case I can just sell it, it seems to record normal instruments just fine. What baffles me is that the playback is OK, but recording isn't. Is there any way to find out if the model is just not capable of handling so much distortion? I could try to replace the head in the worst case.

hmm, what tascam was it? because the handheld
field recorder ones are brilliant, and have XLR in.

other than reading the manual i couldn't tell you, you are probably better off asking on kvr/gearslutz, as they can give you a better answer

DR-05, I got it for taping concerts, it only has a line in. And since I dont have enough pedals, I rely on the mixer for additional clipping, so I can't just turn it down at the master, sadly. I have no idea what kind of recorder or interface would be good for recording really harsh noise stuff without fucking it up...

definitely gonna just have to sort your chain out, can't you get some really cheap pedals to get the sound you want before you go in to record?

It's hard, cause the cheap pedals fuck up the sound and are noisy as fuck, so you end up with a shitton of mid range hum that completely muddles up the recording. Also the cheap pedals make the whole chain sound tinny as fuck, you turn it on, your volume cuts in half and it sounds like you rammed it thru a really bad compressor. Thats why I was looking to go analogue, you can just crank it up and whatever additional clipping it turns up sounds way better than any pedal under 200 bucks or something.

Get an octaver pedal and run your master through it.

Thanks. I might change that part, but I like it because it makes the music feel a bit more alive. If other people say it bothers them I'll change it.

I need better bass samples for a better bass line and I need to get some drop/rise synth samples, or learn how to do it better.

instaud.io/3WBy

I'll find more samples tomorrow. I just know now not to add bitcrush, and to only use erosion a little bit. Justice used what sounds like a very smooth bitcrush on their bass/string samples.

I think it sounds pretty warm and killer now with all the reverb changes and Nightshine. I'm really excited about the possibilities. The master settings I have work perfectly for the sound.

link sounds for me to make
I haven't had a long ass sound design session in a while

... i'm thinking more basic stuff i'll use over and over or a unique drum or something

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Here you go:
youtube.com/watch?v=WedvnI3L8dg
Why would you take so much time to type that up for a newfriend?

>Why would you take so much time to type that up for a newfriend?
I can't help it.

>
ah, hmm. what about the axe fx/kemper things?

thx i didn't know

youtube.com/watch?v=GCmfztmG1GU

epic

>samuel?
>gay aids

>behringer interface?
>scratched

newfags heavens me

>feel i have a decent drum track
Where the fuck do i go from here?

>newfags heavens me
Could you translate this in English please?

envision the mood you want to create and then craft some sounds, harmonies, melodies, etc, to express that mood

i was unironically thinking about doing this fuck your stupid joke!!!!1

The exact same fan is 5 feet from me and helps me sleep

already did this one lol
stop posting this when i ask srs answers only >:(

>already did this one lol
Do it again.

i've done rubber with almost every fucking synth i own lemme aloneeee i'm TIRED of making that fucking sound :((((

Make caoutchouc sounds then.

.......
i'm going to assume they're pretty close lmao

idk man i'm up for a round of making other sounds like that again if you want to name some outside rubber, water, and stone stuff

I watched the first episode of yojo senki a few weeks ago and there was some pretty sick shit... kind of reminded me of Halo. maybe video game/hollywood style "futuristic" weapon sounds

Make a synth patch that sounds exactly like the voice of Stevie Nicks

make a sound of a black man stealing

make bubble sounds

youtu.be/w8KQmps-Sog?t=53
How is the "so come on" guitar effect done?
Is it just a vocoder? Layering?

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can you help me out with a research i'm doing for a university project?

basically i need you guys to give me feedbacks on this idea for a track i came up with.
Based on your comments,
i'll fix the track, making all the changes suggested.

Every day I'll post an updated version of the song

instaud.io/3WDj

new to production, OP's link is dead. Help

What the fuck, I've been gone a few years, what happened to the irc?

no it isn't? works for me

looking at the video it looks like he may be using the built in kaoss pad he has on his guitars, so i imagine it has something to do with that

The future is now old man

I rearranged and remixed this tune. Any thoughts?

instaud.io/3WEJ

And what would those pads be doing exactly?
Surely they're not actual Kaoss Pads, right?

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Thoughts on this guys?

clyp.it/wyig243z

apart from being super quiet, its all good just needs mixing properly, as atm it all sounds just super cheesy

it's alright, doesn't really lead anywhere, you need to add more.

>just needs mixing properly
any tips for that?

Ah that's cool, thank you.

I still don't understand what that effect is, and how would having an XY pad help you achieve it.

It's cute and relaxing, I like it. I would get rid of the 1:06-1:45 part since it feels too similar to the chunk that comes right after it without really earning the repetition. Besides that all it really needs is a better mix because it's too quiet.

meh nothing specifically it's just general mixing, the only different between now and then is, for that style you basically want to drown EVERYTHING in reverb

i imagine it's some sort of pitch effect with his bending of the strings,

Pitch effect on what?
I'm talking about how the guitar "says" "so come on".
Where do the words come from? A vocoder? They're just layered on top?

it doesn't sound like the guitar saying "so come on" at all to me, it just sounds like a pitch bend?

It's even in the lyrics (pic here ).
Try listening with headphones.

listen at 35 seconds. its just a pitch bend, so i imagine its just a vocal layer at the other points of the track

Yes the guitar is doing a glissando and the vocal line is singing the same pitches, but how are they sounding like one sound?
It doesn't sound layered. Sounds like it's the guitar saying it like with a vocoder but I don't think it's that either.
Is it really just mixed perfectly so it's glued to the point of sounding like one thing?

instaud.io/3WFe

Any thoughts on the mix?

Intro is too long (unless you plan on putting vocals over it later) and the bass gets drowned out by the drums

I don't think they're doing anything too complex. To me it just sounds like they're panning the vocal all or almost all the way to the right while doing the same with the guitar bend on the left channel.

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any plugin that does the same thing as corpus in ableton?

just google it

How bad should I feel for ripping off some people a lot? I'm a couple years in and I haven't really found "my sound" yet so I'm mostly making stuff like Iglooghost. I like it but I do want to develop my own flavor. Am I handicapping myself by allowing myself to be really influenced by others? What I'm mostly concerned about is the idea that I'm stagnating.

heres something I am working on rn instaud.io/3WGU

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Why is Ableton so hard to pirate?? FUCK.

I liked what you posted even though it does sound a lot like iglooghost. If you're really not satisfied with how similar you sound to an artist you like then I would just listen to a bunch of artists that sound nothing like iglooghost at all. Get some fresh ideas into your head. Or just break some of your own rules. You've clearly studied iglooghost's music enough to know how to sound like him so just try doing the opposite of that.

Ableton is by far the easiest DAW to pirate in the current year, what are you talking about?

audioz.download/software/win/156979-download_ableton-live-suite-v1010-incl-patched-and-keygen-r2r.html
audioz.download/software/mac/156976-download_ableton-live-suite-v1010-macosx-incl-patched-and-keygen-r2r.html

I guess that makes sense, I struggle with listening to a variety of music because I get obsessed with some sounds and end up doing nothing but thinking about them. Do you have any suggestions?

ill try that but ive installed like 5 versions of it from other places and they all eventually stop working.

thanks by the way

This one is the most legit.
If it stops working then it's on your end.

Try this:
Download the files, turn off the Internet, check the R2R instructions before doing anything, follow them, disable inbound and outbound connections to Ableton in your firewall, disable updates in Ableton's settings, turn on Internet, enjoy.

NP.

>it doesn't sound layered
The point of layering is to make two things sound like one. I'm sure they have super experienced mix engineers work on their shit so it's been done right.

Sure, but when you try layering different sounds like in this case (a vocal and a guitar playing slightly different pitches with an alignment that changes over time due to the glissandos) it becomes really apparent that they're two separate sounds, so I thought it might be some kind of vocoding or one of those vocal effect guitar pedals that have weird specific effects or something.

It's kinda difficult to recommend music based on trying NOT to sound like a specific artist since that leaves almost all music acts to recommend. I find Spotify's radio stations for specific songs/artists really helpful because it inevitably shows me artists i haven't listened to yet that can at least be a jumping off point for new sounds. Recently I've been listening to lots of 70s/80s jazz fusion to find ideas for composition like chord progressions and key changes.

this is mixed well and the composition reminds me of mgmt
i think an electronic tom would sound cool or even a clave

instaud.io/3WHg
can you please listen to this and give me feedback?

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Why is everyone in music production getting cancer?
youtube.com/watch?v=T01u-pn73CQ

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seems like prism is the closest thing but I'm not sure if I want to install reaktor

tfw your monitoring gear is too good and doesnt show you the harsh high mids that come out on smartphone speakers and cheap car speakers

Sometimes cheap is the best way to go because most people listening are using cheap. Justice said they used a cheap Bose alarm clock and Altec iPod speakers. I'm beginning to believe them.

I'll admit it, I listened because of the Non Non Biyori gif. The first half has a nice tropical drum beat, the "breakdown" around halfway through is kind of slow but it picks up with a good drum beat again (reminds me of Blank Banshee) around 1:10. Not bad if this is some of your first work.

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it's not the best way but it's a good idea to check your work on shitty speakers

Looking for a new interface to replace my Scarlet Pro 40.

Anyone have any recommendations for a durable 8 channel interface? That is on bar or better than the Pro 40?

I agree with that the break in the middle loses the pace of the song. I think the break needs an extra element besides the hihat which could also use some changes to the velocity.

instaud.io/3WI4

wip

dnb/jungle

little bit of oldschool little bit of new
any comments/feedback appreciated

>instaud.io/3WI4
That one low bass sample sound like a guy trying to start a weed wacker or revving a weak electric engine.
vrrr vrrrr vrrrrrrrrrrr
vrrr vrrrr vrrrrrrrrrrr
vrrr vrrrr vrrrrrrrrrrr
vrrr vrrrr vrrrrrrrrrrr
vrrr vrrrr vrrrrrrrrrrr
Not a fan of that.

and furthermore any comments on the track?

reminds me of reso, drums sounds too thin to me and I'm afraid trying to fix that will throw the entire balance away, perhaps some tape saturation could do the trick
at around 2 mins there is too much difference in volume between the drum layers

instaud.io/3WJR

is this worth finishing and fleshing out

also did this already

wtf man you guys are no help!

instaud.io/3WK0
This better?
Tried to fix the drums shortly.
deffo still not perfect but i thinks its tighter

Is there anyway to make a frequency-based sidechain?

Like, I have a instrument going all over bass and mid frequencies, then I sidechain a bass drum with a fundamental around 200hz to it and everytime the bass drum kicks in the instrument will lose amplitude around the 200hz frequency, other frequencies remaining stable

How can I do this in FL?

yeah it's better

Try a dynamic EQ like Fabfilter Pro-Q3.

Is it a good practice to just hard pass anything below 20hz and above 18k? I mean, they're inaudible frequencies, right?

I add an instance of pic related to every channel

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Buy Reason.

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Usually yes.

you can still feel them tho

Below 20 yeah sure unless you intend to play it over a system with big ass subs that can move tons of air. Above 18k maybe, I'd do more of a gradual slope at 20k, 6db/oct or 12, or a high shelf, so you don't lose all that information regardless of how audible it is.
Remember that audible and perceptible are not the same values when talking air vibrations.

I wouldn't. Those lower frequencies won't be picked up on an average setup but if played on a club sound system or something it could make a difference. Maybe it would still sound better without them though

>if played on a club sound system or something it could make a difference
Most likely a negative one.
Unless you specifically have a clean sub (in a bass or drum) at that frequency, it's most likely going to be just rumble.

That makes sense, but I remember reading somewhere that really low sub bass frequencies (like below 25 hz or so) are just rubble and suck perceived loudness out of your mix. This is just nonsense then?

>This is just nonsense then?
No, it's completely correct.

It's correct, basically always cut the inaudible lows cause they can fuck with dynamics processors.
If you can split the frequency insteaf of cut record the ultra lows as a seperate track so you can use it to drive a dedicated sub in the unlikelyu occasion you encounter one.

youtu.be/g8xV3EsfR88?t=130

it says not cancer though

I'm not talking about his disease.

Can someone please find for me the contact or formpage to contact BEHRINGER about a failing interface

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>128kbps
OK you're banned from /prod/

I actually downloaded a FLAC!
Never listened to Justice before. What should I expect?

Lots of cheating.

The chords at 0:18 sound too tiny and loud at the same time

isn't that what bitcrushing is tho

is the bass singing convincing instaud.io/3WLY

The snare is a bit weak while the kick is way too strong. Spice the track up with open hats, hi hats and sub bass, that'd make it more interesting.

No, the low is weak and too forward. Also too much vocal fry, that's too low for you to be singing.

Bitcrushers change the bit *depth* of audio (number of bits used per sample) so they can reduce from 16 to 8-bit for example - mp3 encoders typically still use 16-bit audio as a default but the encoder quality is changed by setting the bit *rate* and this is a data transfer rate, bits-per-second not a bits-per-sample setting.

Learning to make melodies so i made a quick "type beat" beat. Went for a dreamy yung bruh/shinigami vibe
instaud.io/3WMd

even tenors can learn to sing bass and i want to record bass parts

I really doubt that. That's like saying you can take a normal guitar string and loosen the tension to play bass notes.

I like it
It would sound great with more stuff going on around high mid/treble

I don't even have to scroll through the replies to know this is Sammy

Thanks, i'll work around it!

quickrundownontheseguys??

oh and baritones cant sing high because it's like tuning a guitar string high and it would break?

just go into falsetto

yeah stop talking shit

??????

Can you sample .mp3 audio, convert it to wav and it not sound shit?

If not, can you manipulate/process mp3 audio to sound as good as wav??

it's called mixed voice. falsetto sucks unless it's an effect here and there

yes you can, it's called being 'trans-fidelity' and it's perfectly normal and natural.

record it in wav to begin with

ok i'm a different user though so don't be so hostile please

Hey bros my singing is improving
instaud.io/3WHK

oh sorry for telling you what mixed voice is little bay your falsetto-only performances are great!

i don't sing falsetto though

>get recommended the akg k240mkii by /prod/
>damn this shit doesnt sound too good let me google for a dsp profile for it
>tons of posts talking about it as a headphone for who doesnt need flat response, lack of bass,fucked mids etc

jesus christ fuck off and go get monitors if you actually want to hear your shit properly sam

you gonna pay for them hot shot? If you aren't how about you stop running your privileged faggot mouth

Yeah, I fixed that earlier. Thanks.

Tell me what you think

Demarcus, is it you?

ikr, but i'd like to salvage and sample some old mp3 recordings
sarcasm?

What's the problem? I had one a while back that never worked

>Tell me what you think
It sounded like maximalist, louder Daft Punk
Like, it has way more stuff happening at a single time and it also uses more unconventional sounds. Daft Punk sounds more bare bones, sparser production by comparison.
I enjoyed it, but I think Daft Punk is catchier, if that makes sense

>sarcasm?
typical cis-producer pushing trans-fidelity erasure assuming it's a joke
ugh

Think of the analogy of taking some lo-bit dithered picture and upscaling and applying filters to try and recreate the original undithered image.

Also D.A.N.C.E. and New Jack are absolute bangers
(I already new D.A.N.C.E. but I never realized it was a track by Justice)

JUSTICEFAG FUCK OFF

yeah, you could be, but why would I care? You do you. I appreciate the time you have taken to enlighten me with your knowledge.

Brilliant analogy. Will try it out and see what texture it adds to some old mixes

clyp.it/vxtjw2kr

Any feedback

the 2nd input of the uphoria 404hd finished dying

Catchy. Sounds pretty good.

No.

guys, how do i learn how to rap

Viper learned it from his friend

thats based. my friends are mostly asian and mexican though.

I have a headache.

like anything with practice, try a simple beat and flow on it really simple, then build from there
try some of the cookie cutter flows like triplets boom bap old school etc

eat shit nigger lol

Drink water, take a 15 min break from the computer

most of the irc peeps have migrated. Me included.

do methamphetamine

instaud.io/3WO5
feedback?

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Another thing I like about Justice is that they're not repetitive. The music is always headed somewhere. Their sound is addictive to me because it feels technical while being trashy.

I'm still looking for another person who can find good funky samples with me, as well as write some music. I thought I couldn't do the mixing but with some fiddling I think I can do it, but I have to listen to it over and over to see what can be improved..

Some people say I shouldn't copy Justice's sound, but what then? They're the most influential group in EDM since Daft Punk and nobody's topped them since. They're the natural progression of Daft Punk's sound.

instaud.io/3WO6

>instaud.io/3WO5
Neat, but I feel like there is too much going on at once. Simplify the arp/keys to more of a pad sound to let the weird glitchy bird/bug/animal sounds take center stage.

be the natural progression of Justice

Way too busy and tense for how calm some of those melodies are

>but what then?
are you really so creatively bankrupt that you would settle for copying somebody elses sound rather than be merely influenced or at least expand on it? that's fucking sad
like bee yourself dude

I mean, I want to write badass shit like Planisphere. I still need a gimmick, and I'm still thinking the alien thing. Dress as aliens and stuff, ya know?

One thing I've learned is not to over-subtractive EQ everything. I read online some guy said to filter all low end on individual elements to get Justice's sound, which resulted in a thin sound in the past. I know not to do that now. I actually am starting to leave the low end on most elements and to just not use too many elements at once, and instead leave the master EQ at near 0 on the bass end. It sounds warmer while being "hot" and brighter that way.

That's what I'm going to do now that I know what is required to get the sound. Cross was the result of using gating tricks, playing with reverb amounts, and using different snares and kicks at differing volumes in the same song to make it sound alive rather than sterile like a lot of EDM. It's really complex and you have to be meticulous and surgical.

I know the sound quality I want, but I want someone who brings a different mindset to the table to make something unique.

>Cross was the result of
jesus shut the fuck up about it when nobody asks, you're just as bad as demarcus inserting depression into everything

>someone who brings a different mindset to the table to make something unique
I write shit songs but make dope sounds and can mix what do

That sounds cool. My discord is Dylan02211992. If you can make cool sounds that would be great. I'm beginning to learn how to mix, but it's a little wonky, but that's exactly the way Cross was mixed.

I want to make stuff with an alien sound - kind of unusual but catchy - like how Daft Punk has the robots, but instead aliens with a cross of DP and Justice's music. Tomorrow I'm going to start looking for more samples in songs.

I could mess around with your stuff and see what comes out of it.

>instaud.io/3WO6

this sounds like justice to me
you've already perfected the technique
now go and do something novel with it

what about the number tho

ah-bloo-bloo

3620

fuck you dylan. i thought we had something. you're cheating on me?

what was your experience with him like?
getting anywhere? would you recommend him to a friend?

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instaud.io/3UBp

what about this track?

the dylan experience™ is pleasant but he gets really antsy really fucking quickly
fuck you

just spent all day download the two part rar files from your link, they finally finished and when I extracted them the file was corrupted. So thanks for trying.

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wtf am I supposed to do different? don't act like im making some obvious mistake.

vocaroo.com/i/s1DOPXz3P1CP
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I haven't really touched it in over a week. I have too many parts overlapping each other, and the sound becomes messy imo, so I'm going to rearrange it and build it up more eventually. Here it is with Nightshine.

instaud.io/3WPe

Someone post their garbage, it can be anything. I want to do some remixing.

What do you need help with /prod/?

Making a friend.

getting my fucking life together to make a situation more conducive to getting my music 100% done :((((((((

JUST RECOMMEND ME SOME FOOKIN SOUNDS TO MAKE

what do you think about my stuff? i believe it sounds okay for home recording
instaud.io/3WmE

pirating ableton ;{

Branding and advertising

Picking a genre that is so far outside your experience can be a very rewarding and challenging task. Do you always try to make club bangers? Try to make some experimental non rhythmic shit, or a fuckin funk tune.
It might reignite your passion as you are forced to learn something new that is outside your comfort zone.

Have you made that fan sound yet? I was serious.

Just go on rutracker. If you are having a hard time with the new new new version, get the one thats 1 version older that everyone is seeding. Its sure to work.
If you are serious about getting your name out there, I would pay a thirsty young marketing / branding firm. Nobody has enough time to do it alone while still making good ass music (with the rare exception of the discover-ees that blow up organically). I have never done this, as I have no interest in it, but that's what I would do If I were.

Sounds cool.

As far as random sounds to make:
Many versions of "Subbass patches" that you are likely to use. Some have pitch bend, as in 808-ish stabs, some have volume automation, etc. Some have saturated versions. A basic sub toolkit
2. Layered snare drums built on synthesized snares that u generated, especially if ur into 'muh edm'
3. Funk lead patches. The ones with the LFO modulating pitch bend a la Zapp and Roger
4. Dope evolving pads
5.Make your own drum breaks using a multi mic drum software (like superior drummer, bfd, Addictive drums) and mix the mics to ur taste to get the sound u want
6. Reverb chains that emulate classic sounds, like plate reverbs and such
7. Preset channel strips for your kontakt instruments that prepare a acoustic guitar, piano, etc whatever it is- in different ways.
just a few ideas off the top of my head.

I MAKE EVERY GENRE

Funny you mention it, BackInTheDay I was very into funk guitar before I actually started /prod/ing so maybe i'll retrace my roots and unironically make an RHCP ripoff track. Also I have part of a piano piece in the style of Ryuicihi Sakamoto started and it's depressing the fuck out of me that I can't expand on it because i'm so shite.

Idk I messaged *redacted* and i am very uncomfortable making dance music outside of techno so maybe that'll give me a push

/blog

Lmao okay i'll do it later tonight or tomorrow maybe, it is now the end of my music time

7zip

>2. Layered snare drums built on synthesized snares that u generated, especially if ur into 'muh edm'
Hey that is also a good idea, thanks man

>5.Make your own drum breaks using a multi mic drum software
also a good idea, though i don't have any :p

I had an idea. I'm thinking about doing another remix contest and see if I can win again, and I'll get a prospective partner to help out once we've chosen one. The music will be 10x better now. I couldn't have made that one minute and thirty seconds as good as it is without the instant feedback from /prod/. I'm so proud you guys.

After my recent EP I feel like everything I'm making after is sub-par and I'm having difficulty keeping ideas going and finishing them. Before it wasn't like this.

I guess this is more of a mental thing. I've been told to try out new stuff and go outside my genre, and all my attempts at this have ended up being terrible sounding for the most part. I know that I'm learning something from it, but it's just frustrating and now I can't make music like I used to make it.

I don't even know what I want help with. I just feel incapable.

Do you think your standards have been raised significantly after your last EP? Perhaps you think you need to level up first?

Something like this. I feel like I need to be better than where I'm at. But I suck at all these new things. Do I just have to suffer through being shit for a while?

>Just go on rutracker
I have a folder with like 7 versions from there I tried already

i downloaded it from rutracker and it was okay. bu i'd rather go reaper because of it's weight

remove all traces of anything u have currently installed.

Any rappers in the building that wanna lay some lyrics on muh tracks?

malone inspired kinda

soundcloud.com/shroomydaze/sets/malone-inspired

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nah. thanks

phaser>that user still remixing fleetwood mac>justicefag>demarcus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sammy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reasonfag

lose quality post

cant fucking pay attention for more than 2 minutes, i get fucking panic attacks whenever I have to get out of my comfort zone while making a track. It's living fucking hell, I have fun when I jam but when it comes to producing in general, I just can't fucking focus like a normal human being. I'd argue I have trouble focusing on anything other than shitposting for some reason. I've been producing consistently for the past 7 months with little breaks here and there, but started 3 years ago with big ass breaks

It's like there's this weird mental block that happens. Whenever I open Ableton, I get all fucking shaky and start feeling extremely tired. It used to be worse when I would just faint in the beginning.

>that user still remixing fleetwood mac
I'm still working on it, I promise!

I'm that way with a lot of stuff. When I tried to be good at Street Fighter 5 I did that until I eventually realized it wasn't for me. When I was starting out making music here about two weeks ago (I used to do music a few years ago though) I was looking for samples hardcore, and I kept doing everything in production wrong due to bad advice I read on old forum posts. I would sleep too long and have to force myself to try to achieve the sound I wanted - had to force myself to get out of bed. Then I just started posting my tracks, no matter how bad they were, took the advice, made the changes, I got over it, and now I feel like I can do anything because I know what to look for sound-wise now. I know what's good and bad. My main problem was that I was throwing bitcrush on almost everything, for what reason idk, just that Justice used bitcrush on some sounds and people on forums recommended it for the sound. It made my mix dogshit and hard to EQ and didn't sound anything like what I really wanted.

You'll work past it. Just envision a song and go for it. Try to build songs around samples if you're out of ideas.

that's exactly what I used I knew how to open them they were corrupted once I opened them

If they're .rar files, try WinRAR. I've had weird things like that happen to me in the past where 7zip would result in corrupt files. No experience with the Ableton files though.

I tried to make some avent-garde hifi shit. I don't feel as though I'm a professional producer by any means, I mostly just try to have fun and make a sound. I've used video game soundfonts and random sound clips. I don't formally know music theory. What should I grow upon?

instaud.io/3WQd

anybody else really liking massive x so far? visual feedback aside (wtf were they thinking) with the osc and routing sections it easily tops serum imo.

Its alright. It has more FM potential than either serum or massive 1. Shame that it only has one main filter (though u can cheat ur way to a few more basic 2 pole filters using the inserts).

Yeah I’ve been using pigments and the lack of 2 filters is disappointing. The filters are interesting at least. Being able to “strike” the comb filter with the exciter envelope is cool as shit and really useful

how do you know all this shit

does it sound like total shit or is it okay? if now tell me what's wrong with it
instaud.io/3WQC
do i need to delete serum and download massive?

Pleb tier post desu senpai.

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I thought it was all jokes at first, but I think you people believe this.

It is not a serum replacement. Its a cool synth though. You cannot make your own wavetables. It has some neat features like the routing area, which I especially like.

i like the chord progression. I think it's just missing instrumentation.

Oh yeah, and to whoever wants to join me in making Justice music, we have to dress like 70s vice cops

youtu.be/tP5Nd6jdf8c

justice is dem good

just fucking around with routing

Is it me or do all Ableton presets and presets in general sound like utter shit? My shit sounds amateur as fuck and I wonder if they're the problem.

make your own sounds then u dingus
ableton shit is good

wdym ableton shit is good, the synths or the presets?

They're not corrupted, you just have to use the latest Winrar to extract them.
I'm sure the other downloads were fine too, and you'ìre just not good at computer.
At least try being less arrogant when receiving help. Especially if you have no idea what's going on and your problems are actually of your own doing.

both synths and effects
the instrument racks are hit or miss imo, mostly miss. grand piano is good.
idk, don't fuck with presets on anything because they majority are shit and or not specific to what you're trying to do lol.

if you're mixing with presets you're hopeless

instaud.io/3WR0

Is there some kind of essentials pack for FLStudio 20? I'm lost as to what plugins I should get, and shit like synth1 is hella expensive for fucking SOUND.

Did you mean sylenth1?

it's not that bad

>is hella expensive for fucking SOUND
So programs for making sound should be cheap?

Mb, not synth1, but no it's something like TI Virus or something similar to that. It actually escapes me right now.

Not saying people shouldn't be able to profit off of these things, but at the same time, even people getting INTO music or most people that are in music to some degree, can't afford half of the things needed to MAKE good music.

True, which is why we pirate everything my dude.

Definitely, although depends, the plugin I'm referring to up above, unfortunately had a failsafe anti-pirating code that rendered it useless if you tried to save your own preset. But none the less, my question still stands, is there some kind of essential list or am I just suppose to grab a bunch of random plugins that others use?

not that a full "pro" setup isn't fucking expensive even if it's all software but it's literally the most affordable it's ever been man lol
like the number one complain boomers have is "fuckin everybody and there cat can make music and upload their shit to soundcloud" too much noise blah blah blah

free plugins are very good already, the absolute necessities to mix are in your daw already and there are excellent freebies out there.

desu reaper, serum, $100 set of headphones can take you very fucking far. it's not ideal and i hate that argument that using cheap shit is fine (imo *learning* on nice stuff and doing things the right way is quicker than using subpar equipment and gives knowledge on how to make up for disadvantages etc) but honestly a few hundred bucks gets you a legit setup, nevermind pirating lol

SERUM that's what I was trying to remember, fuck me. That one. As for headphones... what would you recommend? I was looking at a kind of "list" for good headphones, there was some at like 150 that seemed really nice.

i dont pirate soft

There really aren't any essential plugins.
It all comes down to knowing what you want in a program and trying a bunch of them.
If you're just starting out and can't do that, this is a pretty good list:
rbt.asia/mu/thread/88611083/#88636923
Don't get them all. Just get what you need from it.

You only pirate hardware?

i pirate music that you produce

Joke's on you, I post my work on pirate sites in lower quality on purpose so people get to know about it then decide to buy the proper quality version.
You just fell for my bait.

gimme some pirate sites

freemp3.ru

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No, I swear, it's what I use.

Here's Xavier showing BEAT and DANCE to I believe Sebastian in 2006 before the Cross album was released. Possible evidence Sebastian helped work on it.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KS1OmCMWEpg

Not that it matters much really

I use Sennheiser hd280s

massive disclaimer, heaphones will only get you started, especially this budget stuff- if you stick with this monitors are a must have, but the headphones you get will still be very useful as a second reference

also, Serum isn't *personally* my favorite synth but if you're making synth focused music it's a must have

why do you keep posting

Because I'm bored.

because he's retard

I admire your niche focus autism. Your analysis on the tonal qualities is good but I think you are not contextualizing your production based on YOUR sound. Imitate the technique only and focus on sound selection that is more in line with your lived experience and tastes.

I fuck around with an idea for an hour then I think it’s shit and delete it. What’s my problem

This is why I need a music partner. I know what sounds good and what doesn't, but because Justice combines everything I like (in my youth I liked glam rock, and then metal in my teens) and then EDM like Daft Punk... Justice was the amalgamation of everything I like. I've got to the point now in production technique that I could almost recreate the entire Cross album. I learned how to mix and use reverb on this one track.

But I want to take that album a step further. Justice, and even SebastiAn, are doing lightweight melancholy pop stuff now.

I need a music partner who knows the French touch sound and might have some new ideas. I can't brainstorm it alone.

I did find some old demos by Justice from 2003. kek. They've been producing longer than I thought.

youtu.be/XNiIajLb2AM

You don't have an aim.

instaud.io/3WSn

made on my iphone id give feedback to other people but i dont think it would even be necessary considering idk what the fuck im doing

More of an industrial fan than a box fan but
instaud.io/3WSp

ezpz bb MMMMPHHH listen to those BLADES

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Why not work on a new sound and pull from different influences. Not sure what more there is to do/explore in the french house sound. Plus, we're American so it comes across disingenuous if we explore too far into foreign scenes and ignore our unique influences. Nomsayin?

WHY CANT IT SOUND GOOD WHAT THE FUCK ALL MY SYNTHS SOUND SO DULL IM SICK OF IT I GIVE UP

I want to do that, but I'm definitely using Nightshine for the pure sonic tonality of the Cross album. Many producers chase that sound. House is the most popular EDM genre as well. I only like music with melody so that excludes many subgenres like dubstep. I'm not sure where I could innovate besides innovate within the house genre. Many house producers put out a couple of bangers here and there and neglect making a timeless album.

Basically, I need a pep talk. I don't make music as much anymore and when I do, I think it sounds like shit. I used to be really good (been about 3 months) but it is just not working out anymore. I don't go to my college classes when I should be and I'm running out of time. Every day I think to myself "I should really open up that freelance mixing/mastering service, nah" and just end up not doing it. I go to my job on time, good with money, and despite all of that I'm still happy. I just don't have any motivation for many aspects of my life. How did you guys get yourself out of this hole? I have class at 10 am but I've already fucked my sleep for tonight, I'm sick of living like this.

Stereo separation, reverb, and compression are your friend.

>How did you guys get yourself out of this hole?
i don't like anything else
jobs are just money, school sucked, people come and go.

... it's about figuring out your priorities. The stupid Bukowski quote "don't try" imo gets tossed around to be dismissive of part time artists but I think it weeds out those who will and won't.... if music is going to be a lifestyle thing for you it'll become obvious.... There's nothing wrong with it being a hobby or part time work though

but if you're happy what's the problem? (typo?)

shut the fuck up justicefag

Not a typo, I'm happy but just don't feel the reward of life. It's waaay to early to have the rewards, but I just feel like I'm drifting, you know? Wake up, play some games, maybe dabble in making music, discover some new albums, work some days, stay up till 5am and repeat it again at 3pm. I feel like I didn't live another day, just continuing a dream. Without structure, it just feels like a blur. New Years of 2019 felt like a month ago and all that time since I've been repeating the same shit. To be more specific, I wanna know how you guys got in control of yourself and gained structure in life.

One of our tripfags made this:
pastebin.com/tBeHEkUa
You should check it out.

Thanks, I'll give this a read.

oof nvm can't help you
my structure is wake up coffee music for 5-7 hours with breaks vidya sleep repeat

...my life fucking sucks but if by structure you mean discipline than start small and build a habit. also lmao

What do you think of this song?
youtube.com/watch?v=twUi3Jwcnlc

thoughts on this? ive added some shit onto this

clyp.it/ssm1akic

Daft Punkish. That's what I like. I think it could be spruced up with some instrumentation or reenvisioned with the same melody, but the melody, harmony and lyrics are good.

And what about this remix by the legendary nice job bro0o0o0o0o0o0o0?
youtube.com/watch?v=JEW9wEd8rwY

Completely butchered it.

Let me explain.

Go fuck yourself.

First of all, the melody in the original was more sensual and grooving. The remixer took the melody and pitched it, creating a weird pinched sound, then he added in random notes outside the main aeolian minor key of the song for seemingly no other reason than to drag the listener out of the melody. It sounds very "standard glitchy electro house" and I'm not a fan.

When I produce with headphones it always sounds too quiet when I play it back on speakers. Are they less accurate or what? I'm using studio headphones for this.

Lemme guess. You're nice job bro

Top kek

I wish.

Who's nice job bro?

One of the most famous soundclowns (basically soundcloud memers), who would make stupid jokes but would very rarely make cool songs too.
One day he disappeared and deleted his entire page.
Some people saved some of his stuff, but I don't know if the archives are complete.

new thread every1

Kek. No Justice. Where's the justice in what you've just done?

new thread everyone

ok

Sounds better than I can get my guitar to sound recording it at home. Good work with the drums too. You planning on putting any bass in there?