So how am I supposed to differentiate math rock from post-rock or regular rock? They seem like the same thing

So how am I supposed to differentiate math rock from post-rock or regular rock? They seem like the same thing

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math rock is for the depressed
post rock is for the pretentious
regular rock is for the normals

think of post-rock or regular rock as a big mac with fries and a coke, and math rock as a loaf of fresh bread and some good cheese and roast beef. you will enjoy the latter much more

Math rock is usually really technical and played in odd and/or switching time signatures with “angular” riffs
Post-rock is usually kind of ambientish witha focus on timbre and mood
Regular rock is like Chuck Berry.

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Post rock doesn’t exist

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Mate do these sound the same to you

math rock is focused more on odd tempos and quick beat changes that require a lot of technical intricacy. Post rock is more of a texture thing. it’s pretty bleak sounding for the most part. regular rock is just regular rock idk how that’s hard to get

What about non-emo post rock?

Like this?
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POST ROCK IS ROCK WITH NO RIFFS

MATH ROCK IS ROCK WITH TOO MANY BEAT SWITCHES TO COMPLETE AN ACTUAL RIFF

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>"Is that snake poisonous??"
>"lol don't differentiate anything"

>"Why be curious? Just passively absorb stimuli without thinking about it"

if I like all of those what does that make me? an enlightened faggioli?

how is primus not math rock

Think he was talking about Slint.

How do I into math-rock? I really like the riffy aspect of Cap'n Jazz and Algernon Cadwallader and similar bands.

Thats emo

I thought they were more in the intersection of the two. Isn't Emo more like Sunny Day Real Estate?

There's overlap

"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

hahaha that's a good point

guys, math rock isn't just spiderland. There's some that sounds like upbeat music too.

too funky

what's your take on revival bands like Snowing and Algernon Cadwallader that are heavily influenced by Cap'n Jazz. Do you think they capture the spirit of the genre or are they more like the rest of midwest emo bands?

Math rock is a subgenre of post hardcore that focus on angular guitars and time signature changes Ex: Don Caballero, Gastr del Sol, Dazzling Killman, Hella, Storm&Stress
Post rock is a pretty useless term as it can refer to vastly different things depending on who you ask. I think it can be divided in at least five main strains. The first is the more atmospheric end of post hardcore, wich turns down the aggression to play more with dynamics and tension, while still retaining standard rock instrumentation, like Slint, Rodan, A Minor Forest, June of '44 and Jesus Lizard (to some extent)
The second one is the slowcore strain, wich usually removes almost all the remaining hardcore aggression, opting for a dirge-like pace or ambient openess. Ex: For Carnation, Codeine, Aerial M
The third is the one still derived from the post hardcore scene but that actually expanded the basic rock instrumentation, usually with chamber music or jazz derived instruments, like Tortoise, Dirty Tree, Rachel's, The Sonora Pine, Cerberus Shoal and GYBE
The fourth is the mainly british kind, wich comprised the more atmospheric ends of post-punk and synth pop. Usually used a lot of effects and studio processing, sometimes to very wild extremes like Disco Inferno. Ex: Talk Talk, Bark Psychosis, Flying Saucer Attack, Main, Labradford
The Last one is the so called "crescendocore", kickstarted by Mogwai (and not by GYBE as many says, even if they had great influence on it) wich use traditional rock instrumentation and is focused on melody and, as the name imply, crescendos. Usually end up sounding like a car commercial Ex: Explosions in the Sky, God is an Astronaut, Mono
Obviously there stradina are bit clear city and there is a lot of cross contamination

Algernon Cadwallader have screamo-y vocals so i think they can pass as emo.

How the everliving fuck are Breadwinner, Don Caballero and Coptic Light depressed??

Does Albanis guitar belt give him power

it's pretty hard for children like OP who literally don't do any research before asking Yea Forums

swap math and post rock

Regular rock
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>your normie friends can dance to this
>4/4, power chords, simple chord progressions

Post rock
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>more focused on instrumentation and timbre, less vocal work
>starting to enter non-traditional song structure

Math rock
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>you mostly can't dance to this
>constant time signature changes, complex chord progressions, heavy focus on instrumentation, rarely any vocal work

Slint aren't math rock either you fucking retard.

>POST ROCK IS ROCK WITH NO RIFFS
you are retarded

a Yea Forumsdrone with no personality and no taste

No, they are just midwest emo. Math rock is completely different.

No.

That's a copypasta, newfag.

Spiderland isn't math rock on the first place.

Intelligent post. I would argue Talk Talk are not post-rock however, and bands like Bark Psychosis have more in common with the slowcore post-rock bands instead of Talk Talk, as odd as it sounds.

And wouldn't crescendocore with Mogwai/GYBE start out of the slowcore strain?

>Regular rock is like Chuck Berry.

MFW they make it so complicated to go from teh I to the IV chord

No, it becomes chuck berry

>Post rock: gen x fat guys

hot

>Slint aren't math rock either you fucking retard.
retard

Retards calling retards retards

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SDRE and Cap'n Jazz are both 90s emo bands.

cringe

other way around

he's right you know

Math rock is the single gayest genre ever to be birthed into this accursed world, anyone who goes out of their way to listen to it is beyond redemption and will burn in hell with the rest of the degenerates

>snakes = genres

Lol what a pretentious fag baby bitch. Gonna go smoke a bowl to mom jeans rn. Hang yourself

>noise rock is for the sexual deviants
says someone who probably listens to fugazi LMAO

>accursed world

yikes

which genre of music will kill me the fastest

what about math piano

But post rock is fucking garbage, sticks out like a sore thumb

he's right, you know?

fair enough, tweez was math rock, but that's about it